The Return of the Who's Better Poll! Christian vs Matt Hardy

[Dr. Stinger A. Zoidberg]

Its been a while since Ive done this, so in honor of the return, There are 2 superstars to choose from. This poll's theme, "Superstars who have left, and returned" Your choices are Christian and Matt Hardy. Lets take a look at their stats Now and Then.

Christian:
2X ECW Champion
1X European Champion
1X Hardcore Champion
3X Intercontinental Champion
1X Light Heavyweight Champion
9X Tag Team Champion

Matt Hardy:
1X ECW Champion
1X European Champion
1X Hardcore Champion
7X Tag Team Champion
1X Cruiserweight Champion
1X United States Champion

My Take: Both men are fairly equal here, Both are multiple time Tag Team Champions, and have some memorable battles against each other. Matt Hardy has has a lot of 1X reigns in there, while Christian is a multiple time champion for a lot of his titles. However, both are fan favorites. Im going to go with Christian here only because of the fact that heel or face, the fans love him.

 

[Coco]

Hardy has really fallen into a slump and is no longer ring worker he was in 2007 or even most of 2008. He looked like a prospect and was having fantastic matches on almost a weekly basis. Now... something happened. I wish I could put my finger on what that "something" is. Maybe the injuries are catching up with him and he's not working as well as a result. Maybe he just doesn't mesh that well with CM Punk and the like. I don't know. But couple that with a failed heel run in his recent past and SERIOUSLY limited mic skills and he's really not someone I would peg as one of the elite or future elite in the WWE these days. He's basically just "the other Hardy" and should consider himself lucky he has support from the crowd for that.

Christian, on the other hand, is still having consistently churning out fine matches against all comers and has shades of great potential to do decent things on the mic. He's not the Rock and he's not fed the best stuff by creative, but more ability than Matt Hardy in that regard is clear as day. Couple that with the ability to successfully play the face or the heel and get over as such and I think Christian is one of the best candidates for a future main eventer floating around the WWE midcard right now. He just needs that big push or angle to get him over the top.

Christian all the way for my money.

 

[Alex]

I really want to give Matt some love, but he doesn't match up to Christian. Christian is better on the mic (by a lot) has better achievements (minus his NWA title reigns which makes him better instantly). and seems to perform consistently, for every great match Matt has, he has two bad ones, I also agree with Coco, Matt is in a slump and I think part of that is his fitness, if he gets back into good condition he might be able to pull off some good matches meaning if this is done next year I might vote Matt.

 

[MR.KENNEDY]

Easily Christian for me. Hardy begun to look impressive during his ECW title reign, but has slumped completely since then. I can't see him winning any titles in future in the WWE, and the only possibility of this for me would be if he formed a decent tag team- but I can't see this happening. The only reason Hardy is still in the WWE is because of his brother I would be interesting to see Matt join Jeff and Moore on TNA, where he could be put to relative good use.

Christian on the other hand is currently the ECW Champion, and looks more than credible at the moment. He deserves to be on the main even scene on one of the big shows, as currently Christian is pretty much carrying ECW, and I'd love the see the belt go to a new youngster (or Benjamin). I think that Christian will be a favorite to win this years money in the bank- along with Morrison and Kingston.

 

[dwith73]

This thread is not even worthy of replying to. All the stats are purely WWE, and no TNA. Because unlike WWE - TNA thought more of Christian and ran him with the world title, and he did a great job. Those stats aren't listed. So what if Matt Hardy doesn't never wants to be nothing but a jobber in WWE, and take a leap of faith and go to TNA. TNA is legit, and people don't like to recognize them, and i think thats sad. Christian being an ecw champion is lame. ECW is lame in it's self. It's not even it's own company anymore, its just another branch of WWE. Just like smackdown. If your a champion it counts for nothing. Theres no legitamacy in any of the titles anymore in WWE. I mean look at HHH. An 11 time world champion, and he's only been in the business 10 years. Ric Flair was in the business 30+ years and only is 15 times champion, and he earned those. HHH became a champion like 6 times in 1 year. Edge is the same way. IN two years time he became champion like 6 times. But people like undertaker and Even Shawn Michaels have only help the title a handful of times and they have been around 20 plus years.

 

[Supersayin]

This thread is not even worthy of replying to. All the stats are purely WWE, and no TNA. Because unlike WWE - TNA thought more of Christian and ran him with the world title, and he did a great job. Those stats aren't listed. So what if Matt Hardy doesn't never wants to be nothing but a jobber in WWE, and take a leap of faith and go to TNA. TNA is legit, and people don't like to recognize them, and i think thats sad. Christian being an ecw champion is lame. ECW is lame in it's self. It's not even it's own company anymore, its just another branch of WWE. Just like smackdown. If your a champion it counts for nothing. Theres no legitamacy in any of the titles anymore in WWE. I mean look at HHH. An 11 time world champion, and he's only been in the business 10 years. Ric Flair was in the business 30+ years and only is 15 times champion, and he earned those. HHH became a champion like 6 times in 1 year. Edge is the same way. IN two years time he became champion like 6 times. But people like undertaker and Even Shawn Michaels have only help the title a handful of times and they have been around 20 plus years.

I definitly miss Christian Cage in TNA, his theme music was cool. Just to correct you, HHH is like a 13 time world champ, and he has been wrestling since like 1993. And i think Ric Flair was a 14 time world champ, he always bragged about it in his promos.

 

[rob_lethal]

Hands down Christian. Better mic skills, better in-ring work. Better look (and christ at least he's changed his look in the last 10 years). Matt has had the same greasy,and receding, hair since he came in. Matt has two moves and one of them is a VICIOUS leg drop off the SECOND rope. Please, Christian is on of the most adaptable in ring professionals there is. I can even tolerate Mark Henry when Christian is taking him on. Captain Charisma has it V1 V2 or even V100 will never be able to match that.

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

This thread is not even worthy of replying to.

And yet, you did.

All the stats are purely WWE, and no TNA.

Christian's getting nearly ALL the votes so far, based purely on his WWE work, do we need to bury Matt further by adding Christian's TNA stats as well? More importantly, title reigns don't mean shit regarding ability in the ring, so why that was used as evidence in the first place doesn't really make sense. You can argue that people become champions by being over and producing good matches, but i can destroy your argument with just 2 names:- Sheamus and The Great Khali.

Because unlike WWE - TNA thought more of Christian and ran him with the world title, and he did a great job.

Christian was getting World title shots for a couple of months before leaving the 'E'. He wrestled against both Jericho and Cena for the title, and was then put in the championship tournament when he was moved to Smackdown, and before anything came of that, he left. TNA made him the champ just for being an ex-WWE guy.

Those stats aren't listed. So what if Matt Hardy doesn't never wants to be nothing but a jobber in WWE, and take a leap of faith and go to TNA.

.......... sorry, could you try saying that again, but in English this time?

TNA is legit, and people don't like to recognize them, and i think thats sad.

If, by people, you mean Vince and the WWE Creative team, then you're right, they don't recognize them. Since their views aren't being given, i don't see how that matters.

Christian being an ecw champion is lame.

It's better than being fed to Cena to job to, or being part of a filler fued with ME guys like Punk who have nothing better to do on SD.

ECW is lame in it's self.

New guys being featured prominently on televised matches wit established veterans? Yeah, that sucks so much dick.

It's not even it's own company anymore

Hasn't been for like 8 years, what's your point?

If your a champion it counts for nothing. Theres no legitamacy in any of the titles anymore in WWE. I mean look at HHH. An 11 time world champion, and he's only been in the business 10 years. Ric Flair was in the business 30+ years and only is 15 times champion, and he earned those. HHH became a champion like 6 times in 1 year. Edge is the same way. IN two years time he became champion like 6 times. But people like undertaker and Even Shawn Michaels have only help the title a handful of times and they have been around 20 plus years.

This i can sort of get behind. Most of HHH's title reigns came in his first ME run. Between the end of 1999 and the end of 2000, he'd won like half his title reigns already. The rest he's accumulated by simply being the best heel they've had, or they needed him to be a paper champion i.e in '02 when he won the belt at Mania only to drop it to Hogan, or winning it FROM Orton only to lose TO Orton the very same night in '07.

Edge had that classic NYR title win that'll never be forgotten, and sadly they've decided that he sould win like that EVERY time he wins the belt. When he comes back as a face, it'll be rewarding to see him win the belt in a 20 minute match instead of a 30 second run-in.

What i'm saying is, this is nothing new. Rock, Foley, HHH and Austin passed the belt between each other over and over between 1998 and 2000. In fact, all of Foley's WWF title wins were within 6 months of each other. The Rock won 7 World titles and his 7 reigns don't even add up to a full year. He'd come back from a movie, win the world title, and then drop it the next month.

He did it in '01 after he finished the Mummy Returns, where he came back during the Invasion angle, and won Booker T's WCW title immediately, fueded with Jericho for a while and then lost it. And then the next year, he finished filming Scorpion King, won the Undisputed title from the Undertaker immediately and dropped the belt to Brock Lesnar the very next PPV!!!! Basically, uber-popular guys get handed titles so that they can appear at the beginning and end of tv shows to keep viewers attentions fixed on the show.
If Matt Hardy became a World Champ, people would change channel.

'Oh great, Jeff Lite is now the WWE champion........ what else is on?' CLICK!

Whereas most new fans don't even associate Christian with Edge anymore, so they'd be more receptive to him in the ME scene. Based on the pop at Mania 25 when he looked to win MITB (including me screaming my lungs out in the 9th row), Vince would be foolish to keep him on ECW and then do nothing with him if he ever got drafted.

 

[InterestingDrug]

I'd have to agree with most everyone here... Christian is the better of the two. Always has been. He's been a consistant worker and a top dog in two companies. Even today, he works better than most of the wrestlers on the roster.

Hardy is no slouch however. He had some memorable moments, but WWE dropped the ball with him. He could have been bigger than he was, but he made some personal mistakes as well. Today, he's slowed down quite a bit, gained a little weight and just doesnt interest people anymore.

That being said, neither guy is worthy of holding the WWE or World Championships. Their times have come and gone. They live in the shadows of their former tag partners. Although I have always been a fan of both (especially Christian), I think it's not in their future to be the top dog on either of the top brands.

 

[MoneyMack]

I just dont understand the love for M.Hardy, that so many of you have on these boards. He's loyal- thats about all he has goin for him, if you ask me. He's nothing special in the ring & GARBAGE on the stick!

Therefore- for me: this "vote" shouldnt even be close (21-2) after my vote says alot- no? Christian is better in the ring and MUCH better on the stick. Is there something that Im missing?

If you cant get pops while working a program with CM Punk, directly after your "ubber-popular brother" was taken out of WWE by Punk himself...then your NEVER GOIN TO GET IT!! I see Vince burying the shit out of this guy after Jeff went TNA!!

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

This thread is not even worthy of replying to. All the stats are purely WWE, and no TNA. Because unlike WWE - TNA thought more of Christian and ran him with the world title, and he did a great job. Those stats aren't listed. So what if Matt Hardy doesn't never wants to be nothing but a jobber in WWE, and take a leap of faith and go to TNA. TNA is legit, and people don't like to recognize them, and i think thats sad. Christian being an ecw champion is lame. ECW is lame in it's self. It's not even it's own company anymore, its just another branch of WWE. Just like smackdown. If your a champion it counts for nothing. Theres no legitamacy in any of the titles anymore in WWE. I mean look at HHH. An 11 time world champion, and he's only been in the business 10 years. Ric Flair was in the business 30+ years and only is 15 times champion, and he earned those. HHH became a champion like 6 times in 1 year. Edge is the same way. IN two years time he became champion like 6 times. But people like undertaker and Even Shawn Michaels have only help the title a handful of times and they have been around 20 plus years.

So what if Christian went to TNA and became a multi-time champion? At least one company had enough faith in Christian to make him their top guy. Matt Hardy's best option would be to go to TNA and maybe he would do better than what he has been in the WWE. Hardy has won two or three titles in the past two and a half time and either has been injured or has done nothing in between. I'm not a Christian fan but he has done a good job as ECW Champion and his long reign as partly a by-product of nobody being ready enough to overtake him but I believe that time is coming whether it be by Benjamin or somebody else. Hardy will be always be linked by his brother and you don't see much association with Christian and Edge so Christian will have a better chance of lasting in the main event longer.

If this thread wasn't worth replying to, then why did you reply to it?

 

[TLC]

I've got to go with Christian here. He is much better than Matt in almost every way. On the mic Christian blows him out of the water. In ring skills Christian is better especially lately as Matt has packed on abit of weight and his in ring ability has lacked. I think they are both even when it comes to the fans but Christian has the ability to get over whether it be face or heel where Matt can only really play a face.

It shows as well as this year Christian has been great, always being around the ECW championship having two reigns one of which is still happening and Matt had a fued with Jeff in which he actually one a few of the matches until he got injured once again and moved to Raw. I believe Hardy could off been better had it not been all the injuries he sustained but that did happen so I don't think he's going to get any more top title reigns or anywhere near a main event run just for the fact they may be scared he will get hurt again. Also he'll live in his brother's shadow for the rest of his career unlike Christian whom doesn't even get linked to Edge any more so he has more chance of a main event run.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Let's remember that who has won the most titles, and who has one bigger titles is part of the SCRIPT. People win titles because that is how it is written, so I don't think it's fair to compare who has won what, seeing it is not a real competition. Christian is hands down the better superstar. He is better in the ring. He is better, 10x better, on the mic. Matt Hardy is loyal...ok, so what does that have to do with his ability? He has gotten worse and worse in the ring over the years. His mic skills are garbage, sorry to say. Christian should be in contention for the WWE/World Heavyweight Championship once he gets out of ECW. Matt Hardy more than likely (I hope not) never be the worlds champion. Not even a debate in my mind.

 

[Flow]

well the V1 gimmick was a lot better than anything Christian ever did.

During his days with Jeff, Matt was known as a innovator, he was the brains behind it all. Jeff just made a few jumps off the ladder, but Matt was always the better wrestler.

It doesn't matter who has the most titles, everyone knows WWE never liked Matt much for some reason... he could've won a world title during his heel run or after Punk retired Jeff, the fans were 100% behind him.

At The moment, Captain Charisma is better, but as a whole Matt is better.

 

[colalella2891]

OK so yea. I'm a BIG Matt Hardy fan, and I will always stick by the guy, but unfortunately I have to agree with most of you. Matt's deep, deep in a hole. Like others have said, he's not putting on great matches like he did in 2008. Right now, the most that can be said about Matt is a main event jobber. He gets newcomers over. That's all.

Christian however, if he continues his momentum he can be a major star by the end of the year. He still puts on great matches with anybody he gets in the ring with. Christian deserves it too.

If Matt ever wants to be taken seriously again, he should either jump to TNA, or really get his act together in the WWE. For him, the main concern is GETTING IN SHAPE!!!

 

[INDYjon22]

This isn't even close and before anyone says I am a Matt Hardy hater, no I am not, I am quiet the opposite, but Christian is far FAR better then Hardy.

Christian is better in the ring. Both men are hard workers but Christian can do more and more importantly tell a story while he wrestles. Just compare the Edge and Christian feud to the Matt vs. Jeff feud. The Edge and Christian ladder match from 2001 was amazing and it told a great story. Matt is a good wrestler but Christian is a great one. Christian constantly puts on memorable matches that are good. Matt Hardy's last real memorable match was probably at Wrestlemania against his brother. Christian's ladder match against Shelton Benjamin at TLC was epic as hell.

Christian is better on the microphone, no argument can be made that Matt Hardy is better. Christian can be funny yet be serious at the same time, thus making him Captain Charisma. He is somewhat a reincarnation of Y2J Chris Jericho or even The Rock. He can make fun of someone either face or heel and the crowd will cheer for him regardless. He is one of the best on the mic in the WWE, probably since he worked with Edge for so long.

Christian is better then Matt Hardy, end of story.

 

[JGalaxtic]

Phooeeoow!! Tough topic, but easily decided. Christian takes the cake, most definitely. Honestly though, I'm a huge fan of both of them. I always thought Matt was the better Hardy, and I was happy as hell to see his GIANT push feuding with his brother. Somehow though, he let go of himself - maybe his spark for wrestling faded? Its something we can only know if we asked him ourselves. I'd love to see Matt in TNA and I know for god damn sure he'd make quite the impact with his brother & Moore.

Christian though is aging like wine, only getting better. By far my favorite in the business. I'm crossing my fingers that Vince will give him the rub. Because if anyone deserves it at this point, its the Captain.

 

[Sean Valjean]

I love Matt, but Christian is by far the better of the two.

Christian has better ring work and FAR superior mic skills. Not only that, Chrisitian has proven himself as a legit main eventer in TNA, and it's only a matter of time before he wins a world title in WWE.

If this was 2005-2008 Matt Hardy, I'd say his ring work was on par with Christian's, but the quality of his matches have really slipped (not to mention his physique). He can still put on a good match, but not as consistently has he used to. His mic work, while better than Jeff's, still isn't anything to write home about and is absolute shit when compared to Christian's.

So yeah, Christian wins this by a long shot.

 

[InTheWoods]

Christian by a long shot. Ive never been a big fan of Matt Hardy and I always thought Jeff carried him through matches when they were a team. There is no way matt would have made it in the WWE on his own. Christian has stood out and made it on his own to become on of the most talented (not to mention most undervalued and underrated) wrestlers in the WWE.

If anyone deserves a push its Christian. Having him rot away in ECW is a joke and an insult to the man.

 

[jstroud14]

Add me to the Christian vote...far away superior to Matt Hardy. He is a MUCH better mic worker, and in-ring techniques blow away Hardy. I am a HUGE Christian mark, but Matt is a GREAT tag team wrestler...at least with his brother he was.

 

[Mr. TM]

Interesting question, because Matt and Christian have been viewed as the weaker members of their teams, yet as impressive as they are, there is one clear winner here for me. Christian is an incredible wrestler, while Matt was always a lot weaker than the other three (counting Edge and Jeff here). Matt always seemed a little out of shape, less interesting, and blah. Christian on the other hand was probably the best on the mic, was reat at having a great flow in the match, and always had a great character.

 

[Tastycles]

Christian is better. There's nothing wrong with Matt Hardy really, he's just average. Christian on the other hand is above average in mic skills and probably in the ring too. Despite being on the least watched show, Christian is still hugely over with the crowd, and that is because he has a certain magnetism that Hardy does not. Christian is better than Matt Hardy in just about every aspect of professional wrestling, which is a rarity, because Hardy is very solid, but it is still the case.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

It's Christian, and it's not even close. Christian had an awesome run in TNA, in fact he's one of the main reasons why I started to watch TNA full-time a while back. He had some good feuds as world champion in TNA, and put on some very good matches. Upon his return to WWE, he has been doing a great job as the face of ECW. His feud with Jack Swagger was one of the best feuds in WWE last year. He's also way better on the mic than Hardy.

Look I like Matt, but he just never can seem to grab "the brass ring". I thought his big heel turn after the Royal Rumble would be going some where, but once he stop feuding with Jeff, he just became boring. The main reason why his feud with Jeff was interesting was because he turned on his brother. When he turned face again, he seemed to get a spark, but again, once Jeff was out of the picture, he has become stale yet again. Besides his feuds with Jeff and MVP, there really isn't anything Matt has done that's been memorable.

 

[Screen]

Christian, there's no doubt about it. I'm not taking anything away from Hardy, but Christian is better than him in every way.

Christian's feuds are done excellently. The one with Swagger was not bad at all and his feuds with Jericho were excellent. There's more feuds I haven't named because I forgot. The ONLY memorable feud I remember from Hardy was his feud with Edge and that was pretty personal. The one with MVP was ehh, and the one with his brother Jeff was ehhh also.

I hope Christian leaves ECW and becomes a real champion because he deserves it. I really wanna see him feud with Edge when Edge returns from his injury (but of course Edge is gonna feud with Jericho first).

Hardy can't put on matches anymore. If he can't deliver against CM Punk, who is one of the best heels in the business than I don't know what's to say. His wrestling is sloppy and his mic skills are sloppier.

Christian all the way.

 

[CaptainZaltan]

For whatever reason, I've always wanted Matt Hardy to step up and succeed as a solo performer. But at this stage in the game, I just don't see it happening. Christian has been there in TNA, and in fact was the highlight of the promotion for a time (during his heel title reigns). He is now carrying ECW as well. He has consistently shown himself capable of hanging with the best on the mic, and in the ring. If Christian were 5 inches taller and had an extra 20 - 30 pounds of muscle on his frame, I think he would have been a multiple time WWE world champion by now. As it is, he's working from a handicap as he doesn't fit the look that Vince prefers for his champions. Still, I think perseverance will pay off for C (just like it did for Jeff Hardy, Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, etc), and within a matter of years he will have at least one world title reign in the WWE. Unlike Matt, I believe that Christian is currently ready for such a main event role; he just needs the push. Matt, on the other hand, still has some work to do on his character before he can be taken seriously in a main event role. That's nothing against Matt, btw. But at this point, Christian is by far the better performer of the two.