The Pointless Thread

[Lil Wes]

ROFL! No their not.

Your blind and obviously biased.

Overall the Lakers own them as they have better offense

ROFLPOLIEOLIE!

WTF are you talking about? Are you fucking serious? Please tell me your kidding.

Boston is the best offensive team in the NBA, when you add up how much they score compared to how much they allow plus their FG%.

Better than LAL.

and better rebounding

Not really. Boston's ratio is better.

Not to mention more experience and better coaching.

You have them there. But overall. No.

The Lakers have more depth and get more people involved, not to mention Kobe is hitting his stride. So no.

More depth? Lawlz. Boston has one of the better benches in the NBA.

Detroit has a better defense and the Lakers have better coaching.

No, Detroit doesn't. They play in the East. It's no comparison, although Boston's is good regardless because they have Garnett but not Detroit.

Lakers have Phil Jackson, so no shit.

Pops is a great coach, which is why we win with meh talent.

Not only that but the Lakers do have 2 players with 3 rings, and SA has never repeated.

Doesn't matter. You haven't been shit since 02.

We are more proven with the team that we have then you are. Simple as that and when we kick your ass in the WCF, you'll see that.

And don't base this year off what SA did last year, that was last year and all teams are better now.

I'm basing off what they've done in recent years. Which is the whole fucking point.

1 game, big deal. They took Philly lightly and lost.

Yeah, one game, big deal for your Lakers as well.

LOL! #2 was a joke because we didn't have Gasol or Bynum so don't brag!

Excuses. We didn't have Manu for our recent game neither. Waah Waah.

And ignore the 2nd metting why don't you.

We played 4 times, I gave you the scores based off my argument which was....

and have scored way above our average in 2 meetings with 107 and 103

^^^^^^^^^^

Read the posts. We score 92 in the 2nd, which was slightly below our average.

And none of those 3 MEETINGS had Gasol in them and the only time we played you with Gasol you lost!

Let me make DIAR type excuses.

1) We didn't have Manu.

2) We were in a slump.

3) Those games mean shit anymore.

Don't say slump as you legit lost. And we had 4 meetings.

I know, that wasn't my argument as I said above.

Unproven and just assuming. The only time you played us with Gasol you lost by 21.

Wow.....Gasol.....I'm shaking in my boots. 14 pts and 11 rebs is simply mind blowing

Seriously dude, 1 game, you do remember the playoffs are 7 games series' right?

Excuses.

No, that's the truth. We were in an inconsistent slump.

They always play you tight and losing doesn't = choking.

Yes it does when you have a big lead and blow it which is what PHX does.

The Suns never had a big man before and stoudamire was playing out of position.

Excuses. I remember some stupid fucks that actually thought Stoud would outperform Duncan. ROFL.

If it wasn't for missed shot you be down 1-0 instead of up.

Good players make clutch shots. Ask Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.

The Suns shoot 50% as a team so they won't miss that many shots.

And we are the best defensive team in the West, and arguably the NBA since we actually play competition.

That will play a factor.

 

[Moon Knight]

Your blind and obviously biased.

Read your own posts on why you have no right to say that.

ROFLPOLIEOLIE!

WTF are you talking about? Are you fucking serious? Please tell me your kidding.

Boston is the best offensive team in the NBA, when you add up how much they score compared to how much they allow plus their FG%.

Better than LAL.

Lets just ignore LAL's higher FG%, more points, more rebounds, more assists.

Not really. Boston's ratio is better.

More ribs per game, and with the easts talent Boston isn't telling. Excuse you used. Also Bynum and Gasol have yet to play together.

More depth? Lawlz. Boston has one of the better benches in the NBA.

No. Lakers outscore them and out rebound them and more blocked shots.

No, Detroit doesn't. They play in the East. It's no comparison, although Boston's is good regardless because they have Garnett but not Detroit.

So does Boston, stop that line. And Detoit gives up less points.

Doesn't matter. You haven't been shit since 02.

And Boston hasn't been shit in 20 years. Who cares?

We are more proven with the team that we have then you are. Simple as that and when we kick your ass in the WCF, you'll see that.

Basing current success off of old success. Gasol wasn't even there in previous years.

I'm basing off what they've done in recent years. Which is the whole fucking point.

Past years don't matter.

Yeah, one game, big deal for your Lakers as well.

As for the Spurs who lucked out, We won easy.

Excuses. We didn't have Manu for our recent game neither. Waah Waah.

So? How do you know Manu would have made a difference?

Let me make DIAR type excuses.

1) We didn't have Manu.

2) We were in a slump.

3) Those games mean shit anymore.



I know, that wasn't my argument as I said above.

I never made an excuse but a valid complaint. We didn't have Gasol in 3 of them and neither Bynum or Gasol in one. And since Gasol is a massive upgrade you can't claim the outcome would be the same with him. No excuses just facts.

Wow.....Gasol.....I'm shaking in my boots. 14 pts and 11 rebs is simply mind blowing

Seriously dude, 1 game, you do remember the playoffs are 7 games series' right?

Duncan had 16 and 12....MVP numbers. You are using past games to validate the Spurs winning when neither teams has played each other 100%. And we outrebounded you by 15.

No, that's the truth. We were in an inconsistent slump.

Excuse. You lost legit.

Yes it does when you have a big lead and blow it which is what PHX does.

8 is not a big lead. And they scored almost as many points in the 2nd half as the first.

Excuses. I remember some stupid fucks that actually thought Stoud would outperform Duncan. ROFL.

Nope, more facts. They didn't have a big man and Amare was playing center but his natural postion is PF. And I never said Amare would, but he did good.

Good players make clutch shots. Ask Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.

Even Jordan missed shots with the game on the line.

And we are the best defensive team in the West, and arguably the NBA since we actually play competition.

That will play a factor.

But the lakers difference is better. Anyway, you are 11th in rebounds, 6th in difference, 3rd in oppose rebounds, 12th in Blocks, 10th in difference, 12th in steals and 11th in difference. Overall even if you have the best D in the West it's not by much as the Lakers top you in almost all of them and teams only shoot .001% better against them.

 

[Lil Wes]

Read your own posts on why you have no right to say that.

ROFL.

I just said Boston was the best team in the NBA about 50 times, you can't even do that because your biased. Hency why I said it.

Lets just ignore LAL's higher FG%, more points, more rebounds, more assists.

What are you talking about DIAR?

What I said....

Boston is the best offensive team in the NBA, when you add up how much they score compared to how much they allow plus their FG%.

Now allow me to prove it....

FG% for Boston - .475

FG% for opponent - .419

FG% for LAL - .476

FG% for opponents - .445

Which rounds out to a...+10.25.

Like I said, better ratio and SRS. Best in the NBA and that the Lakers D is LOL worthy compared to theirs. Plus, add they won 65 games and demolished the West just adds more certainty that they are the best in the league.

More ribs per game, and with the easts talent Boston isn't telling. Excuse you used. Also Bynum and Gasol have yet to play together.

The East is shit, but Boston isn't and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. I'm sold on Boston, just not Detroit, which I will get too.

No. Lakers outscore them and out rebound them

Prove it, because you would have alot of math to do and I'm not doing it.

So does Boston, stop that line. And Detoit gives up less points.

1 point when rounded, and it's the East. Same with Boston.

And Boston hasn't been shit in 20 years. Who cares?

We were talking about recent experience and being proven in the playoffs.

Boston's 20 year drought has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever.

Basing current success off of old success.

You earlier...

Lakers have better coaching. Not only that but the Lakers do have 2 players with 3 rings

Hypocritical much? Done it more in this thread as well.

Gasol wasn't even there in previous years.

Your getting sooooooo off track.

The topic is: The San Antonio Spurs are currently the most proven and experienced as a team in the 2008 NBA Playoffs based on what they have done in recent seasons during the playoffs.

Recent = 3, IMO.

Past years don't matter.

Again, your missing the point. See above.

As for the Spurs who lucked out, We won easy.

Big deal, you got an 8 seed. Your suppose to win.

Phx is much, much tougher than Denver,

So? How do you know Manu would have made a difference?

20 points, and 5 assists per is a pretty good difference.

Plus, he's the best 6th man in the NBA. Go figure.

I never made an excuse but a valid complaint. We didn't have Gasol in 3 of them and neither Bynum or Gasol in one.

Quiet with Bynum.

When or even if he returns, he'll be rusty as fuck anyways.

As for Gasol, whoopy shit.

And since Gasol is a massive upgrade you can't claim the outcome would be the same with him. No excuses just facts.

Those aren't facts, you haven't beaten us in a series with Gasol, and until you do. It isn't a fact.

Duncan had 16 and 12....MVP numbers.

ROFL.

Better than Gasol's. Too bad Tim was having an off night.

You are using past games to validate the Spurs winning when neither teams has played each other 100%.

The irony here is, you keep bringing up the Spurs wins over the Lakers without Gasol, now your saying this ^^

Hypocritical much?

Excuse. You lost legit.

I don't know what I said here as this is the goddamn edit button and it doesn't show you.

8 is not a big lead. And they scored almost as many points in the 2nd half as the first.

9, and the blew it down the stretch.

No more facts.

Grammar check.

They didn't have a big man and Amare was playing center but his natural postion is PF. And I never said Amare would, but he did good.

Excuses yet again, quit making them. They lost. Simple as that.

Even Jordan missed shots with the game on the line.

Well if he can't make that shot, and Duncan can make a clutch three.

Makes him look like an idiot.

But the lakers difference is better. Anyway, you are 11th in rebounds, 6th in difference, 3rd in oppose rebounds, 12th in Blocks, 10th in difference, 12th in steals and 11th in difference.

Have no idea what your talking about, as it's all bunched up and out of order.

Overall even if you have the best D in the West it's not by much as the Lakers top you in almost all of them and teams only shoot .001% better against them.

Defense is keeping teams from scoring and locking them down, which we do best, plus all of the above you mentioned, although D Rebs mean more than O when we're talking D.

 

[brahma62]

You two should really go work for espn

the next Sean Salisbury and John Clayton, just debating all sports not just football

 

[Lil Wes]

Yeah, too bad I have a shit computer and can't even finish posts

I don't know why people like us actually waste time to debate these long posts. Nobody reads them anyways.

 

[Moon Knight]

ROFL.

I just said Boston was the best team in the NBA about 50 times, you can't even do that because your biased. Hency why I said it.

Read your posts again to see why you are biased towards the Spurs.

The East is shit, but Boston isn't and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. I'm sold on Boston, just not Detroit, which I will get too.

Boston is the East and plays mostly Eastern teams.

Prove it, because you would have alot of math to do and I'm not doing it.

I know that because I found their stats at NBA.com and did the math.

We were talking about recent experience and being proven in the playoffs.

Boston's 20 year drought has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever.

You keep saying the Lakers will flop because of past flops, but refuse to admitt the Celtics have a longer failure history. Has a lot to do with this topic.

You earlier...



Hypocritical much? Done it more in this thread as well.

You need to stop throwing that around as it never fits when you do. You bragged about the Spurs rings and playoff history so I pointed the Lakers have some to.

Your getting sooooooo off track.

The topic is: The San Antonio Spurs are currently the most proven and experienced as a team in the 2008 NBA Playoffs based on what they have done in recent seasons during the playoffs.

Recent = 3, IMO.

On track, I pointed out Gasol wasn't there is past years and this is a different team and therefore past flops mean nothing.

Again, your missing the point. See above.

No I am not. Gasol wasn't there last year so why does it matter? It doesn't.

Big deal, you got an 8 seed. Your suppose to win.

Phx is much, much tougher than Denver,

After looking at Denvers team I changed my mind, they are tough and won't be a cake walk. They had more talent than I thought.

20 points, and 5 assists per is a pretty good difference.

Plus, he's the best 6th man in the NBA. Go figure.

No proof he would have scored that much and even if he did you still would have lost.

Quiet with Bynum.

When or even if he returns, he'll be rusty as fuck anyways.

Bynum is a legit double double guy who will make our team better. No reason to stop talking about such a good player. 13 points 10 rebounds and 2 blocks a game is nothing to cough at.

As for Gasol, whoopy shit.

Only person not impressed with Gasol. He is a great player and has elevated the Lakers.

Those aren't facts, you haven't beaten us in a series with Gasol, and until you do. It isn't a fact.

WTF? Saying you can't claim the outcome would the same with Gasol is a fact, you don't know what impact he would have made.

ROFL.

Better than Gasol's. Too bad Tim was having an off night.

So was Gasol and maybe Tim had an off night because of Gasol?

The irony here is, you keep bringing up the Spurs wins over the Lakers without Gasol, now your saying this ^^

Hypocritical much?

Stop using that as you have yet to peg it. I mentioned it to prove a point, they don't matter because Gasol wasn't there and if he was the outcome could have been different.

9, and the blew it down the stretch.

8 at half.

Excuses yet again, quit making them. They lost. Simple as that.

Not excuses just facts.

Well if he can't make that shot, and Duncan can make a clutch three.

Makes him look like an idiot.

Jordan? The Best player ever? Even the best miss every now and then. Thats the point you missed.

Have no idea what your talking about, as it's all bunched up and out of order.

I do, you obviously didn't understand. You keep bragging about the Spurs so I showed numbers that were not so good, and since difference is something you love I showed that to. All in order.

Defense is keeping teams from scoring and locking them down, which we do best, plus all of the above you mentioned, although D Rebs mean more than O when we're talking D.

Not against high scoring teams like the Suns. The Spurs have 31 defensive rebounds a game, the Lakers have 33.2 a game.

 

[Moon Knight]

You two should really go work for espn

the next Sean Salisbury and John Clayton, just debating all sports not just football

I am rather tired of doing it, never gets anywhere. I won't reply to it anymore. I made my last post on this subject.

 

[Lil Wes]

Well then, it ends there. That shit gets tiring plus you get more off topic/point than Brian..

And I'm not biased.

Boston > The NBA despite being in the East.

See.

 

[Moon Knight]

Well then, it ends there. That shit gets tiring plus you get more off topic/point than Brian..

And I'm not biased.

Boston > The NBA despite being in the East.

See.

I was on topic and point everytime. I even stated why. Nevermind...I'd have an easier time changing lead into gold.

 

[Lil Wes]

You were completely off point in about half of my arguments, which just makes it more tiring when I have to explain the point in every post..

That is all. Moving on now....

 

[Moon Knight]

You were completely off point in about half of my arguments, which just makes it more tiring when I have to explain the point in every post..

That is all. Moving on now....

I was on point and stated why in my last post.



That is all. Moving on now.

 

[Lil Wes]

Laughable. I read about half of that post and most was off point so I stopped.

That is all. Moving on now...

 

[Monkey_Mania]

Can Kahli Do A Moonsault???

As a man who can actually execute a shooting star press ill go with that over the moonsault. and to add to the pot Flaming barbed wire table with thumbtacks on the table and a pile of broken glass under the table.

Oh and since im so hardcore id be covered in barbed wire and on fire as well

True Story

 

[Bernkastel]

Can Kahli Do A Moonsault???

As a man who can actually execute a shooting star press ill go with that over the moonsault. and to add to the pot Flaming barbed wire table with thumbtacks on the table and a pile of broken glass under the table.

Oh and since im so hardcore id be covered in barbed wire and on fire as well

True Story

What? no landmines?

 

[Monkey_Mania]

What? no landmines?

I thought about landmines but i thought that my life meant more.

 

[Lil Wes]

Perform a moonsault on the Great Khali through a flaming, barbed wire table. With every inch of your body covered in barbed wire..

Erm.....errm.....Even those special parts?

 

[Monkey_Mania]

Erm.....errm.....Even those special parts?

Goodness Gracious Great balls Of Fire


you make a point good sir

 

[Mighty NorCal]

and if you were in the old ECW you would kick out at two...

 

[Bernkastel]

and if you were in the old ECW you would kick out at two...

And if you were in CZW you'd probably no sell the maneuver

 

[X]

FG% for Boston - .475

FG% for opponent - .419

FG% for LAL - .476

FG% for opponents - .445

Which rounds out to a...+10.25.

Like I said, better ratio and SRS. Best in the NBA and that the Lakers D is LOL worthy compared to theirs. Plus, add they won 65 games and demolished the West just adds more certainty that they are the best in the league.

Rather convenient that you didn't even address this DIAR.

Boston > Lakers

It's hard to beat the number one defense in the league when your team has a defense that routinely gives up 100+ every night.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Boston was 2-0 against the lakes this season???

 

[X]

Correct, though DIAR thinks it doesn't count because the Lakers didn't have Gasol yet, and Bynum was injured.

Bynum is so overrated it's scary. DIAR is acting like this guy is going to come back and deliver double-double's right off the bat. Not gonna happen.

 

[Cage917r]

Bynum is not overrated, he is very good, but I agree he will not come back and be a great influence on the game right away, he will be rusty and have to get adjusted.

Overrated is such a strong word, he is going to be very good, was becoming dominant before he was injured, but to expect him to be that dominant if he returns in the playoffs is a stretch because he will need time to get back in the swing of things.

 

[Moon Knight]

Correct, though DIAR thinks it doesn't count because the Lakers didn't have Gasol yet, and Bynum was injured.

Bynum is so overrated it's scary. DIAR is acting like this guy is going to come back and deliver double-double's right off the bat. Not gonna happen.

Because that is true rather you like it or not, and if the Celtics play the Lakers it will be in the finals and Bynum will be back and have a few series under his belt. The fact is having Gasol and Bynum on the team will affect the outcome of the game, and since the nor anybody has played the Lakers with both in it's valid to bring that if you like it or not.

And I ignored Wes's numbers because they were laughable, he was trying to use defensive numbers to claim Boston has a better offense than LA when they don't. Just laughable. It is already known the Lakers have a better offense than Boston, PPG, FG%, Assists, O-Rebounds and as I stated the Lakers bench outscores Bostons.

Bynum is overated? He gets the right amount of credit and you both need to let this rest.

 

[Moon Knight]

Bynum is not overrated, he is very good, but I agree he will not come back and be a great influence on the game right away, he will be rusty and have to get adjusted.

Overrated is such a strong word, he is going to be very good, was becoming dominant before he was injured, but to expect him to be that dominant if he returns in the playoffs is a stretch because he will need time to get back in the swing of things.

That is what radmanovic is for, Bynum is a great young player no matter how much Celtics fans deny it. When he comes back next round Jackson will most likely have him split time with Radmanovic.