Johnny Scumm
InZayn In The Membrane
This could be a nicer idea than just voting between bands, but voting musicians instead.
We can form the band, then still find out who people think is the greatest.
The Musician/Band Tournament? (Just an idea...)
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This could be a nicer idea than just voting between bands, but voting musicians instead.
We can form the band, then still find out who people think is the greatest.
Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
Is that not an argument to make the music tournament more diverse than anything, then? Similar bands draw similar fans; Pearl Jam, Metallica, Nirvana, but if a wider variety of bands were entered, then surely that could yield some more interesting discussion, no?
The BZT had interesting match ups for sure, so if the potential music tournament can find a way to include more varied artists/bands then it could prove more interesting.
Out of interest, did the number of posters contributing to the BZT generally increase with each subsequent tournament? If there has only been 1 music tournament, surely its worthwhile giving it another go to see what the difference will be in terms of people participating?
Pay Per Ghost
What they f*ck happened in the thread section here
You know you're dampening all my spirits now of having a great tourney here.
I mean yes this is the forum where someone said Goldberg is better at climbing a ladder than Andre.
..............that was me; I said that. Fuck you!
Do a shorter tourney though as it will have a two fold advantage:
A) It will not last longer so people here who get bored easily are catered to.
B) A shorter list will have more people bitching about who got left out thus bringing in more traffic.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
It depends, man. If I listen to both groups but I like group A more than I like group B, even though group B was more popular, had more albums, etc. And that's your argument as to why I should vote group B more the group I like more it's not going to work.
Those matches came from a set up that was based on objectively - people are going to be split on the question of whether Cyclops could beat Deadpool, or if Superman could handle the Sentry. The fighter with the better powers and feats is going to win.
In the MT if you said "well we're trying to find the most popular band of all time" to make it objective, the winner would likely The Beatles or Justin Bieber or Michael Jackson or Elvis. Not much of a tournament.
That would be a question for J or Doc, but considering I was ready to start throttling people in later matches [and probably vice versa right Killam?] and some those of threads dragged on, I'd say it was probable.
I can see where you are coming from, and I would have interest in it too. But I can easily identify with the people that would be hesitant, and weary that the tournament just wouldn't draw.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Johnny Scumm
InZayn In The Membrane
So, which would be better?
1) Band/artist Tourney
2) musician Tournet, where we whittle it to the ultimate band, then vote for the single best.
1) Band/artist Tourney
2) musician Tournet, where we whittle it to the ultimate band, then vote for the single best.
Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
He's a Scotsman who doesn't have a traditionally moany face, that's who 
I think the objectivety of a 'most popular artist/band' argument could prove to be a bit of a ball/ovary ache. Sure, one could suppose that Bieber in a non-social media environment or The Rolling Stones in an active social media environment could yield different outcomes, so perhaps some tweaks could be made.
Perhaps the massive scope of musical influences on culture and society, thinking back to Beethoven and perhaps beyond, could prove problematic. On the other hand, even the preliminary round arguments could pose some interesting debates.
I say all this, but if Jeff Buckley doesn't get in then the whole idea can go fuck itself with a twin neck Gibson ;-)
I think the objectivety of a 'most popular artist/band' argument could prove to be a bit of a ball/ovary ache. Sure, one could suppose that Bieber in a non-social media environment or The Rolling Stones in an active social media environment could yield different outcomes, so perhaps some tweaks could be made.
Perhaps the massive scope of musical influences on culture and society, thinking back to Beethoven and perhaps beyond, could prove problematic. On the other hand, even the preliminary round arguments could pose some interesting debates.
I say all this, but if Jeff Buckley doesn't get in then the whole idea can go fuck itself with a twin neck Gibson ;-)
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
A band tournament. If you'd like to have some stand alone artists in there, like MJ, that would be ideal.
Johnny Scumm
InZayn In The Membrane
That's exactly how I want it.
Mainly bands, but solo artists that are THAT good, or in the right category, can be in.
Buckley is fine, and I'd throw in someone like Beyonce for shits.
Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
Jeff Buckley, him and his dream brother.
Is Jeff Beck the same Beck who did Loser?, or has a new can of worms just been opened?
Edit - why not have a separate bracket for the solo artists?
Is Jeff Beck the same Beck who did Loser?, or has a new can of worms just been opened?
Edit - why not have a separate bracket for the solo artists?
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
I don't listen to either so I expect them to go out early.
Johnny Scumm
InZayn In The Membrane
Ozzy would go in with Sabbath, but Cooper I'd put in as a solo artist with a backing group.
Johnny Scumm
InZayn In The Membrane
Fine, but if Ozzy goes in as just Ozzy, you'd have to take Sabbath into full account. That's probably a better way.
Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
Honestly, I'd heard the names but never really listened to either. 2 incredibly similar names can throw me off rather easily
Nice enough guitar wank there, but I'd still take Jeff Buckley over him. I'm pretty sure I could/have listened to several songs that Jeff Beck has contributed to and never known it. Buckley has a very distinct voice and has made several of his covers very distinguishable from the originals.
Let the fighting talk begin! :-D
Johnny Scumm
InZayn In The Membrane
Right, here's what I'm going to try & go for with it;
16 in each category;
60's/70's
80's
90's
00's to present.
Each category will have 4 "genre sections", so we can only have 4 of each kind in each category, to allow diversity. They are;
Metal
Rock
Pop/RnB/Dance
Solo Artist
Myself and the others running the tournament will pick one artist to put into ea h year category, the rest will be up to WZ. We'll pick based on 1) Popularity (how many people vote it) & 2) Diversity (Is it what we need or not?)
There will 4 Rounds in each category, until we end up with four winners from their respective ones.
Those four will then be randomly drawn into two overall semi finals. The winners of the two SF's will go into a final to be crowned the overall best band/artist.
Yay/Nay?
16 in each category;
60's/70's
80's
90's
00's to present.
Each category will have 4 "genre sections", so we can only have 4 of each kind in each category, to allow diversity. They are;
Metal
Rock
Pop/RnB/Dance
Solo Artist
Myself and the others running the tournament will pick one artist to put into ea h year category, the rest will be up to WZ. We'll pick based on 1) Popularity (how many people vote it) & 2) Diversity (Is it what we need or not?)
There will 4 Rounds in each category, until we end up with four winners from their respective ones.
Those four will then be randomly drawn into two overall semi finals. The winners of the two SF's will go into a final to be crowned the overall best band/artist.
Yay/Nay?
Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
I'd rather see individual artists have their own separate bracket away from the groups and Metal/Rock seem too close together.
Then again I would never have the patience to run such a competition, so fair play to yourself and don't mind my moaning!
Then again I would never have the patience to run such a competition, so fair play to yourself and don't mind my moaning!
Johnny Scumm
InZayn In The Membrane
It's fine, I just want this to be simple for running my first tourney, then I'd it goes well, make things a bit more complex.
I'd be willing to lend a hand in terms of opening/closing threads if you need a mod for it, Thrash. This could be fun. If Nightwish gets in they have my support to the very end.
EDIT: If you're serious about running this thing, let me know and I can bring it up in The Board Room.
EDIT: If you're serious about running this thing, let me know and I can bring it up in The Board Room.
Johnny Scumm
InZayn In The Membrane
That would be appreciated! I dunno if it could warrant its own subsection in the MH while it goes on, like WZT & BZT get.
But yeah, I would be posting it in the media hug so it forces people to post non-spam.
