The Most Epic Failure of Post, Ever

[Downward Spiral]

But if the evolution process is true, why aren't there people who are half-monkey (or caveman, or whatever it's about), half-human? Surely we would see those people if evolution is true, and there wouldn't be a planet just filled with either the evolved, or the un-evolved. There must be a half-evolved.

But, I'm not going to debate this, that's just what I think should happen by the sounds of this theory.

 

[Murfish]

But if the evolution process is true, why aren't there people who are half-monkey (or caveman, or whatever it's about), half-human? Surely we would see those people if evolution is true, and there wouldn't be a planet just filled with either the evolved, or the un-evolved. There must be a half-evolved.

But, I'm not going to debate this, that's just what I think should happen by the sounds of this theory.

Monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor. Humans didn't evolve from monkeys. Each species has evolved up to where they are now.

 

[Downward Spiral]

Monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor. Humans didn't evolve from monkeys. Each species has evolved up to where they are now.

So why aren't things still evolving now?

 

[Eternal Dragon]

So why aren't things still evolving now?

Well it takes millions (billions?) of years...right? I'm sure it's not something we can note and record over a short period of time (which you know a thousand years can be seen as very shot).

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Dragon

 

[Mighty NorCal]

they are DS. it takes an absurdly long time.

 

[Mr. TM]

Hasn't the worlds population increased in height over the last 1000 years? That might be evolution. It may have been caused by an increase in dietary consumption, but it still is a form of evolution.

 

[Murfish]

So why aren't things still evolving now?

They are. It is an extremely slow process.

I personally think we are slowing the process with the way are lifestyle is these days. There is no conflict to adapt to. Then again I am not an expert.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

They are. It is an extremely slow process.

I personally think we are slowing the process with the way are lifestyle is these days. There is no conflict to adapt to. Then again I am not an expert.

there is in some walks of life. thats why peoples faces are getting broken in the NFL, and why they are having to change rules so people dont get killed. cuz every year, they get a little bit bigger, faster, and stronger. You need an example, pro sports are it...

 

[Murfish]

there is in some walks of life. thats why peoples faces are getting broken in the NFL, and why they are having to change rules so people dont get killed. cuz every year, they get a little bit bigger, faster, and stronger. You need an example, pro sports are it...

Yeah professional athletes provide a good representation of mankind as a whole. It doesn't have anything to do with those designer steroids and hgh does it?

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Yeah professional athletes provide a good representation of mankind as a whole. It doesn't have anything to do with those designer steroids and hgh does it?

you mean the ones the NFL has extremely stringent testing for??


and it was the example. mankind as a whole doesnt need to adapt, become bigger, faster, stronger. Pro athletes do. its an example of the evolutionary process at work still. regular people dont need to rise above, athletes do. but I guess every record ever broken in the history of sports was becuase of steroids right??

 

[Downward Spiral]

But my point is, if people are developing in appearance due to evolution, why aren't we seeing people who are still in the early stages of the process, or people who are halfway through? Or are there people like that?

 

[Mighty NorCal]

we are DS. go see the religion debate for proof

 

[X]

But my point is, if people are developing in appearance due to evolution, why aren't we seeing people who are still in the early stages of the process, or people who are halfway through? Or are there people like that?

Three different people have already answered that DS.

Because evolution is a process that takes millions of years. You're not just going to wake up one day and find that you have a tail as a part of evolution.

Most likely the next step in evolution will be the elimination of things like our wisdom teeth or the appendix, things that no longer serve a purpose to humans.

 

[Marquis]

I think since we are around humans every day we wont notice the very subtle changes. That's assuming if we even witness any since its such a long process.

 

[Downward Spiral]

Three different people have already answered that DS.

Because evolution is a process that takes millions of years. You're not just going to wake up one day and find that you have a tail as a part of evolution.

Most likely the next step in evolution will be the elimination of things like our wisdom teeth or the appendix, things that no longer serve a purpose to humans.

I can understand that evolution is a very long process and that it is impossible to notice changes.

But, that's not my point..

One person has an ancestor who they have evolved from in the last 5 million years.

One person has an ancestor who they have evolved from in the last million years.

Would there be a noticeable difference between these two people, considering that they both have not been in the evolution process as long as each other, and should there be a noticeable difference?

I'm not really questioning this theory, just wondering about it.

 

[X]

That's an interesting idea DS, but you have to remember that the theory of evolution was created not very long ago (100 or so years seems long to us, but it's really not).

If there were noticeable changes in our biological structure over the last few thousand years, we did not have the proper technology or understanding of this. Perhaps we have evolved in several ways since the dawn of man, unfortunately there's no way to know this for sure.

But if you were to be correct, perhaps within the next few thousand years we WILL be able to see noticeable changes in our genetic structure, now that we have the proper technology and education to understand such matters; unfortuantely none of us will be alive to see this.

I like where your going with that idea though DS.

 

[Minor League Brian]

Actually, the height thing is an evolution of sorts. I remember someone saying that in Jesus's time, the average height was like 5ft or something. I can't remember, but I remember it had to do with the environment in that area and all that. Something like that, I can't recall at the moment.

 

[Mr. TM]

first off two things one i am very religious, I stand firm in what i beleive. And second off, CCS your a fucking idiot, you are the reason religion gets a bad rap you uneducated fanatic do us all a favor and PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP!

I am devout in my faith, and i beleive in darwins theroy of evolution why cause it is true no releigion can dispute that. Darwin had two theories one that we all have common decent, proven in scripture by Adam and Eve, or from Noah's family, all humans have common decent, and all animals are decendant from their respective conterparts Noah took off the ark. It cannot be disputed, so please do not debate religion untill you have read at least the basic scripture you wish to debate, unless you want to be verbally slapped in the face. Second was natural selection, which has been proven correct, so that cannot be disputed, anyone who beleives otherwise is so far off base that they need to just have their mouth sown shut.

Your a religious wing nut who obviously knows nothing about christianity, thinks they are always right, and cannot be convinced with truth that is right in front of you...let me guess you're Catholic

You are as bad as CCS.

 

[Shadowmancer]

actually part of what he said is true, there is a genetic Adam. they have proved it through gene testing a shit load of people.

 

[FromTheSouth]

there is in some walks of life. thats why peoples faces are getting broken in the NFL, and why they are having to change rules so people dont get killed. cuz every year, they get a little bit bigger, faster, and stronger. You need an example, pro sports are it...

College sports are an even better example. Years ago Boise State and Utah didn't stand a chance. Now the athletes are so much better, and there are so many of them, that everyone legitimately has a shot at a BCS bowl every year. Granted 85 scholarships helped, but that doesn't explain how in 40 years the national title picture grew from Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Penn State, and Nebraska to the 30 different schools that have finished in the top 10 this decade alone.

And to the bible thumper, is there a reason that you are referring to the Word of God, as interpreted by King James to justify the Crusades? The bible was written, likely in Aramaic and ancient Greek, which is very open to interpretation, and it was changed at Nycea, and changed again in the 100's.

I believe in God, and I am devout in that, but you make me question His perfection with every breath you take.

 

[FromTheSouth]

I can understand that evolution is a very long process and that it is impossible to notice changes.

But, that's not my point..

One person has an ancestor who they have evolved from in the last 5 million years.

One person has an ancestor who they have evolved from in the last million years.

Would there be a noticeable difference between these two people, considering that they both have not been in the evolution process as long as each other, and should there be a noticeable difference?

I'm not really questioning this theory, just wondering about it.

No, there would be no noticeable difference.

1. The gene pool that they would have been bred within would be similar, and most mutation would be manifested or eliminated in similar patterns.

2. While the first humanoids are over 2 million years old, the more streamlined forms of humans are less than 300,000 years old.

3. Five million years ago, the primates would have brachiating shoulder joints, and so would those of one million years ago. In the last half a million years, the positioning of where the spine connects to the skull is the most determinate factor in survival. So one million years ago, both of your theoretical humanoids would have been fine, as they would have been able to traverse the trees, however, the more upright man would have selected for ground dwellers, thus eliminating the tree hanging monkeys from our evolutionary tree.

 

[Murfish]

Last night I had a good response to explain it to DS. It got messed up by the forums and I didn't bother recreating it.

 

[FromTheSouth]

That's an interesting idea DS, but you have to remember that the theory of evolution was created not very long ago (100 or so years seems long to us, but it's really not).

If there were noticeable changes in our biological structure over the last few thousand years, we did not have the proper technology or understanding of this. Perhaps we have evolved in several ways since the dawn of man, unfortunately there's no way to know this for sure.

But if you were to be correct, perhaps within the next few thousand years we WILL be able to see noticeable changes in our genetic structure, now that we have the proper technology and education to understand such matters; unfortuantely none of us will be alive to see this.

I like where your going with that idea though DS.

Evolution can occur within a few generations. As better nutrition has been available, people have selected for healthier looking people, who have happened to be taller in the last two hundred years. The average height has risen something like, and I'm struggling to remember from a freshman anthropology class, six to eight inches since the American revolution.

This is an example of certain phenotypes allowing for the proliferation of certain genes over eight generations.

 

[14-Year Old Virgin]

, And to think this whole thread was started because of ME. Sorry WZ forum members, Had I known I was talking to children (Meaning no chance of anyone seeing a valid point or being able to know what the word OPINION means), I would have just kept my mouth shut.

Here's what we can learn about evolution of the WZ Forums, once a band of people get together, they troll the forum looking for people to attack. Once they find that person, ME, they pick out small parts of what was said and based their attacks on parts of what was said to suit their senseless need to flame someone so they can sleep at night or mastubate, Which ever comes first.

Then they create a thread like this boasting about it! This is the most childish shit I have EVER seen. And they call me the immature one. Your all a waste of time and space. Enjoy your lives.

 

[Uncle Sam]