The Miz made us eat our words...

[Trill Co$by]

I'm keeping this short and sweet... When The Miz came into the WWE, he was simply known as the Reality Show star that was there but nobody remembered. And when we came in, we hated for the simple fact that he was in the reality show realm. We all wanted him to go, and we all said he couldn't make it from actor to wrestler...

Here we are in 2010, and this double champion has made us ALL eat our words. He's become the man every IWC fan has grown to love and can't wait to see more from. He's the man of Raw right now, and in total control. If you ask me, he is the best in WWE right now when it comes to the younger generation followed only by John Morrison.

JR once said that the Dolph Ziggler stock would be the one to invest in because he rises so much, but I do believe he was wrong wrong wrong! The Miz is the man to invest in and he's the man that WWE should put hopes on to carry them for a while.

What's your opinion?

 

[GlobalWrestlingAlliance]

Sorry KongNagao, I disagree. I think for Miz's size and cocky/dominating attitude, the Skull-Crushing Finale is excellent for him. He can put it on pretty much anyone and it fits his character to a tee.

As for The Miz... Yes, he has definitely surprised me. I thought he was a pet project of Vince, something to get the "MTV" crowd to watch for a couple of episodes. What we got in return was a character, a good promo and a good match. With the IWC constantly harping about all three from today's product, I think Miz is a breath of fresh air every week.

 

[Slowdude]

The reality check doesn't look devastating at all, it looks weak actually. He needs a new finishing move when he gets to the Main Event.

He got a new finisher (In 2009 btw....), its called the skull crushing finale. The reality check is but a mere normal move now like when he used it against HBK during the triple threat tag match and didn't even bother attempting a pin.

On topic, I remember when The Miz moved to Raw last year, people figured he be fired by the end of 2009, that he would be the Jannety of The Miz and John Morrison Tag Team but he just proved everyone wrong. He has proved all doubters since day one by drastically improving on the Mic and in the Ring to the point where he is now a double (triple) champion. I can easily see him getting the main event push within the next year. He is The Miz and he truly is Awesome.

 

[Tastycles]

I think The Miz was awful when he first appeared, but he has shown a huge deal of improvement over the last two years. The Miz has really gone from strength to strength and a lot of that is down to his own perseverance in his tag team with Morrison and the creative team for giving him the time to flourish. I'm still not convinced that he'll ever be a top star, but I don't see why he can't have a career trajectory a bit like Chris Jericho, permanently on the cusp of the main event.

 

[pun2003hh]

The Miz is a double champion and I couldn't be happier. Man, it really is amazing to think how far this guy has come in a short 4 years. This guy was a joke when he debuted, relegated to "hosting" Smackdown and the Diva Search. You have to respect the hell out of him for really tuning his craft over the last few years and to reach this point on Raw where most mid carders are held down. What is even more amazing to me is he has made it this far despite his size. I don't think I have ever heard anyone on these boards talk about how small and undefined he is. Really goes to show how far solid in ring work, an entertaining gimmick, and great mic work will take you.

 

[jimpedro419]

If I were to say that I am not suprised by the Miz then I would be lying. He is the perfect heel you love to hate him and I hope that they dont just stop and they give him a world championship. Because he is thie Miz and he is AWSOME

 

[emerald phoenix]

He's great on the mic, his in-ring work isn't to shabby, but for the love of god, give him a new finisher.

The reality check doesn't look devastating at all, it looks weak actually. He needs a new finishing move when he gets to the Main Event.

as others have pointed out he hasnt used this since his outfit change...he uses the skull-crushing finale now(full-nelson sweep face first)..... but it still comes off weak as others (jericho) use it as a regular move.....the miz should do like other wwe stars, aka rip off puro wrestlers moves aka cm punk taking half of kentas moveset, jericho taking marufuji's "codebreaker".......... it would be cool seeing the miz use marufujis new finisher if he could pull it off right.......

but yea the miz is coming into his own, they even started to build him differently.....remember in the start of his title reign he was literally getting his ass kicked the entire match and the suddenly the person would make 1 mistake and miz would hit SCF and the match would be over.....now there letting miz get some offense in

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

And typically this fuels the IWC to start up with the 'he'll be ME'ing Wm next year' bullshit that they always throw around, about anybody who does anything watching on a singular episode of Raw.

Yes Miz IS in fact, awesome, but guaranteed ME'er? No way, at least, definitely not yet.

People seem to forget that Miz's current singles push is going the EXACT same way as MVP's initial push when he joined SD.

-Talks loads, does nothing except get beaten up by the ME'ers
-Win US title, holds it for months on end
-Random tag title win for no reason
-Loses both belts, is relegated to jobber
-Turns face, rises to mid-card, been there ever since

So yeah, until Miz is actually in a World title match, or has an actual fued with a ME'er, and not just calling them out for 2 months and then getting squashed, THEN i'll consider that Miz might be a long term investment for the WWE, right now he's just the best thing to watch on Raw.

Should Punk/Gallows have won? Well as the only stable other than Legacy that's actually doing something, then yes they probably should have. However, some people are saying that it would be better for Punk's credibility etc etc. Vince doesn't care about a talent's credibility. In his mind, Vince tells you who to believe in and not the other way around. Vince cares about the biggest draw, and obviously feels he'd make more $$$'s having Miz on both shows, than he would Punk.

 

[theBIGdealAndyP]

im actually a really big, long-time miz fan... i used to watch real world every year growing up and this kid came out and admitted to everyone that he was... a wrestling fan!!! do you realize how much balls that it took for him to be an outcast for no other reason then the other "personalities" in the house just didnt get him and his sense of humor, always trying to be the MIZ!!! the miz wasnt vinces gimmick, it was mike mizanins creation, and he doesnt get credit for that. as soon as he was done with the real world he started up on the RW/RR challenges and got in pretty good shape, then he started going to wrestling school, long before tough enough, and learned all that you can learn from an independent wrestling school... not much... he had his own website and i have one of his original "be good, be bad, be miz" shirts that has the logo hes currently using weith his eyes on it... he trained for almost 4 years before he got on tough enough, then he lost to a complete douche bag who thought he was on the ultimate fighter till angle and holly beat him out of there, but you know who stuck around? miz. the miz has been in the game a lot longer then most realize (7+ years?)and hes what everyone of us aspires to... to go from fan to superstar... this kid is the real deal, hell, he even goes out in kayfabe, whenever hes out in LA at some club or charity event or whatever, he goes as the miz from wwe, not mike from the real world...

 

[Post]

I have to agree with most of you. When Miz came on the scene, my expectations were very low. I too thought that WWE was just trying to capitalize on the reality show buzz.

Miz has steadily improved over the past few years. His breakup with Morrison breathed new life into his career and gave him a chance to expand the Miz character into something more substantial.

I think it was crucial to give him more appropriate ring gear and ditch the stupid hats. He looks like a wrestler now.

His in ring skills have improved. He flows better in matches and uses good transitions to carry out move sets. My personal favorite move is the jumping clothesline onto the prone opponent in the corner.

The Miz's mic skills are top notch! His catch phrase is... well...catchy! He is the US Champion and 1/2 of the Unified Tag Team Champions. This guy is on a roll.

The sky could be the limit for The Miz. Right now he's bigger than Morrison, MVP, Ziggler, McIntyre, and Kofi.

The only bad thing about Miz is that he is from the "Armpit of America", Ohio.

 

[Matowar]

I hated the Miz in the Real World and I hated the Miz when he first started wrestling and I hated the Miz when he was a tag team with Morrison and I hated the Miz when he turned on Morrison and then became a heel on Raw but now I hope he wins the WWE Heavyweight Championship because he is the Miz and he is awesome!

 

[Tully]

I obviously agree.

It's interesting that in many discussions of WWE being same ol', same ol' and not pushing younger talent...the Miz gets forgotten as a perfect example of a young guy with talent and who can work the mic getting the push he so clearly (IMO) deserves.

It's also interesting that he's getting such a push even though he doesn't appear to be the Typical Big Guy that VKM loves to shove down our throats. And yes, I'm looking at you, Shamus.

ShowMiz should be an interesting tag team to watch. The Miz agreed to the name-change awfully quickly.

 

[emerald phoenix]

I obviously agree.

It's interesting that in many discussions of WWE being same ol', same ol' and not pushing younger talent...the Miz gets forgotten as a perfect example of a young guy with talent and who can work the mic getting the push he so clearly (IMO) deserves.

It's also interesting that he's getting such a push even though he doesn't appear to be the Typical Big Guy that VKM loves to shove down our throats. And yes, I'm looking at you, Shamus.

ShowMiz should be an interesting tag team to watch. The Miz agreed to the name-change awfully quickly.

its cuz the miz brings cross over fans........miz is known through real word, and anyone that knows him will be drawn in...... also the miz is pure gold on the mic while his wrestling still develops

 

[wtfhappened]

I think the Miz has more potential than talent showing through right now. However, I don't think it's his fault. If WWE used him right he could be the next Jericho. He's go decent in ring ability and he'd have fantastic mic skills if it weren't for the "Reaally?s and "I'm awesome"s. I think I'm the Miz and I'm awesome is almost there. There's just something not right about it. The Reaally? thing just annoys the hell outta me. Both the phrases just reek of laziness. There could be a lot more there but there just isn't. I think if they could get him into a tighter package they could really solidify his future in the WWE. Also, as far as him holding two titles the WWE really just hands those things out nowadays.

 

[layinDown]

I think the Miz has more potential than talent showing through right now. However, I don't think it's his fault. If WWE used him right he could be the next Jericho. He's go decent in ring ability and he'd have fantastic mic skills if it weren't for the "Reaally?s and "I'm awesome"s. I think I'm the Miz and I'm awesome is almost there. There's just something not right about it. The Reaally? thing just annoys the hell outta me. Both the phrases just reek of laziness. There could be a lot more there but there just isn't. I think if they could get him into a tighter package they could really solidify his future in the WWE. Also, as far as him holding two titles the WWE really just hands those things out nowadays.

What do you mean he'd have fantastic mic skills?!?

He is, hands down, one of the best on the stick in the wwe. The only other guys that can hold his jock are Jericho and punk. You must be watching a different Raw than the rest of us. Sorry for any bad punctuation, I'm on an iPod.

 

[MizMark]

What do you mean he'd have fantastic mic skills?!?

He is, hands down, one of the best on the stick in the wwe. The only other guys that can hold his jock are Jericho and punk. You must be watching a different Raw than the rest of us. Sorry for any bad punctuation, I'm on an iPod.

I agree. He cuts an awesome promo. I vaguely remember him doing backstage interviews or whatever the hell it was he did, and I sort of remember him starting up in WWE, and then forming the tag team with Morrison. Must say that I didn't really like either of them, Morrison from his tag team with Mercury and the Miz because he wore ridiculous clothes to the ring. I grew to like both of them towards the end of their tag team, and I enjoyed the Miz taking out Morrison on ECW(?) to end the tag team. The sky is the limit for the Miz, I can see him pushing towards the path of Jericho, in that he may have the odd World Title reign but they won't be that noteworthy. I hope his push continues, the Miz truly is awesome.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

While Miz is improving on the stick its Jericho's jock he is holding... Jerichio could go back to Y2J tomorrow, blow everyone away with wit and off the cuff humor... but......he.....doesn't... cos the slowed delivery and "everyman" tone work better... he has 2 strings to his bow... Miz has just the one so far...

As I said in another thread, I actually think this is no random title win but a plan b for Miz & Show to be facing Jericho and Christian at Mania... Chris's "greatest partner" being Christian of course, the natural feud for Miz's US title...

Miz would be working with 3 former world champions and bona-fide main eventers, one of which is known for the match of the night on several occasions... then we might have a main eventer on our hands...

 

[mm1160]

Just don't like the guy, and I am so so sick of hearing...and I'm awesome! That being said, he has improved drastically in the past few years. Also a very bad move to give him and show the tag belts. We are seeing too many times when one guy holds a single and tag team belt. You can't do it, and why they keep going back to that well is a joke. The other joke is Big Show being any part of it.

 

[Kid A]

i always hated the miz when i first saw he was on there..but after awhile he grew on me because i noticed how good on the mic he was and his wrestling definitely isnt bad. he can hold character. my only gripe is his new music sucks..just not a fan. glad he stopped doing that "jig" when he came out tho haha

 

[jellmoo]

I honestly don't get the appeal of The Miz. He's "good" on the mic, but I really wouldn't put him up there with top promo guys like Jericho or HBK. Heck, I think that Show is actually the better promo guy out of the two. The Miz is good at being irritating, but doesn't quite have the ability to go on the fly like the best do.

His in ring ability is decent. He doesn't botch moves like Punk, but he also doesn't excite the crowd or play off them like a top heel would.He definitely has potential to grow in that regard though. I think that having him work both shows for a bit will be a good way for him to further work on being a better in ring heel.

Ultimately, he gives me an X-Pac vibe. He generates heat, but it isn't always "good" heat. People just instinctively dislike him. While that certainly has its advantages, it does also present the problem that a face turn is that much harder.

He's worked his way into the mid card scene pretty well, but it has a lot to do with a lot of other guys fumbling the ball at that level rather than him being amazing. I personally don't see The Miz as main event material, but am more than willing to admit that I could be wrong. Maybe he offers more than I can see. Heck, I still don't see Punk as a Main Eventer, so what the hell do I know...

 

[THTRobtaylor]

What exactly is "good heat"? I always thought that good heat was exactly when people wanted to see you get the crap beaten out of you every night... you didn't diss their town, or do much other than be yourself...

Many have fumbled, which is why this tag move is good... if my idea came off Miz would have the rub of a massive mania match behind him, win or lose... Have worked a proper feud with Jericho, Christian and show (who all will help him learn and make the most of it... no egos in that group) and maybe he won't fumble...

 

[Mr. TM]

I said in another thread that Miz is my midcarder who is on his way up. He won't be winning the title anytime soon, but as he is carrying three belts around his waist, he is looking great. He has been a slow burning flame slowly moving up the ranks of the WWE.

 

[smalltownfan]

I am digging the Miz right now. WWE has packaged him exactly right. He's the arrogant smartmouth the WWE needs right now and pairing him with Big Show is great for both guys. The Miz can run the mic and Big Show can run over people which is perfect for Show right now due to his health. I am pleasantly surprised that the Miz has passed Morrison in terms of star power but he has. A previous post said that Miz is bigger than Morrison, Ziggler, McIntire, and Kofi and they're right. He's the Miz and right now, he is indeed awesome.

 

[Dysturbed]

When The Miz was part of Tough Enough and when i knew that WWE had signed him afterwards, I wanted to see get somewhere in the business. I had previously watched him on The Real World and some challenges and he seemed like someone that I could get behind. Despite that, I wasn't impressed with him for awhile, but neither were most of you. We also had little reason to be. Also like some of you, I have taken a liking to him over the last couple of years. For me it started with his teaming up with Morrison and continued into his current role. I don't know if personally have to eat my words since I never actually trashed the guy but I do admit that I wasn't fully convinced that he'd amount to anything. He slowly is and we'll see what the next several months and years bring for him.

 

[CoreyLangNumber3]

Yip eberyones said this but

He was nooby when he first started but is now the biggest mid carder going. Yip I was a fan from the beggining of his Smackdown Debut. Miz vs Tatanka Miz wins I instantly loved him. Th ways he would dance around the ring mocking the stupid indian guy, TBH I was gutted when he moved to ECW thought he would flop and get released but he became one half of the 'Greatest Tag team of the 21st century'.

Well if I was asked will he become WWE champ I would say no. He's just not ready. In 1 or 2 years its a complete YES! Cmon WWE play the cards right put him in a fued with a big name where he actually wins. EG

Rey Mysterio
Kane
HBK
Or even Undertaker

Cena fueded with Taker when he was a mid carder holding the US title so why not Miz maybey it could just be one match at a PPV like The Bash, ut I could guaratee Taker would make Miz look a star however the match ended.With a Record of
WWE Tag titles x2, World tag titles x2 US title x1
He almost ready for the big time just a IC title then the big one I say

Cmon Miz We all know your awesome....... HOORAH