The Miz is Awesome

[Mac Attack]

The Miz in my opinion is the most underrated Superstar in the entire WWE. The Miz is not widely liked on these forums on understand that, however the that still doesn't take away from the talents that he is. I believe a lot of people are still sore over the fact that he main evented a WrestleMania but quite frankly I believe he was given an opportunity and shined through that and continues to shine in the WWE. Now no doubt his face turn did him no favors however I still think he has all the talent, skill, and marketability to become a top WWE superstar once again.

One thing that I have always enjoyed about the Miz and also I find great about him is his move set. He uses a plethora of maneuvers that not only make his matches good but make the matches that he is in so much more interesting And the truth is it's just not the fact that he has the ability to hit certain moves it's how he does it. Notice when he does his running corner clothesline. He hits it and holds on to it for a moment either showing his cockiness when he's a heel or his pleasure of hitting his move when he's a face. His heel work and move set shatters that of his face move set however he is still extremely talented when he gets into the ring ad I feel this often goes unnoticed.

His realty TV background enhances his mic work and his in ring work. He is one of those people who knows how to work a crowd. People may not like him but he uses them to his advantage and can always cut solid promos. This is seen through him earning his Miz TV segments and having them constantly be the means of setting something up. Also watch his facial expressions inside the ring. He has the ability to show exactly how the match is going by the way he expresses himself. He usually is serious but when he has the advantage he is cheerful and when he's losing he looks in distress. As an entertainer and an actor Miz does indeed have some of the best quality work whether you like it or not.

The Miz puts in the "extra" effort. If you want to see a WWE superstar who does a ton of WWE things after the shows and live events it's the Miz. Whether attending a convention, a talk show, a signing, who is the WWE's go to guy the Miz. He always is a crowd pleaser knows how to connect and knows how to sell the WWE product. He's the host of Summerslam and whilst most wrestling fans (myself included) are not looking forward to this because it will take away from in-rig time, I truly believe he will do the best he can to entertain the masses.

Wrestlezone, I understand that there's a wound given to a lot of wrestling fans that hasn't healed because he main evented Mania. There's a wound that can't go away because he's a "poor man's Rick Flair." However Wrestlezone, The Miz is far greater then what he gets credit for. He constantly does his best and tries his hardest to entertain. Is he the most underrated? That's debatable. But does he deserve more credit then he gets?

Absolutely.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I've generally liked The Miz for quite a long time and I was a big supporter of Miz during his run as WWE Champion. I think he's someone that's gotten a MASSIVE amount of undeserved hate from the IWC and his wrestling ability, or lack thereof in the minds of some, is grossly exaggerated. I think Miz is a lot smoother overall now inside the ring than he ever has been and his matches generally, to me at least, have a much better pace. While it doesn't do any particularly flashy moves, his move set is pretty solid all in all. The guy can also talk on the mic and I always dug the fact that he didn't try to be the tweener or the cool heel that the smarks all like to cheer for. He was able to come off as an annoying, arrogant heel that was easy to dislike. I also believe his WWE Championship run has been the subject of a pretty noticeable double standard when comparing it to a more recent World Championship reign. For instance, a LOT of posters harped on Miz constantly cheating or whatever to hold onto the title, which is kind of what heels do, yet praised the TNA World Heavyweight Championship reign of Bobby Roode even though Roode was booked in very much the same way; having to constantly cheat to hold onto his title. The cheating doesn't bother me in the least because, as I alluded to earlier, it's what heels do. They're not supposed to stand up, forthright people who walk the straight & narrow; it just irks me to see one guy get slammed for it because he isn't an internet darling while another wrestler that is more of an internet favorite is praised for operating in much the same way as champion.

That being said, I'm not nearly as much into Miz as I once was. In the grand scheme of things, Miz is about 90% the same character as a babyface that he was as a heel. He just hasn't really connected with me as a face because he still comes off like a smarmy, ultra cocky, obnoxious little bastard. I'm just sort of burned out on that aspect of Miz and would have liked to have seen him take on a somewhat more traditional babyface role. The Miz no longer behaves in a cowardly manner but, then again, babyfaces aren't supposed to.

I don't think that Miz will be WWE or World Heavyweight Champion again anytime soon, if ever. IF, and I repeat IF, what I've read in some various reports/rumors are true, then Triple H is someone that's never been a huge fan of Miz in the main event spot. As Triple H is someone who obviously is gaining a lot of power, has a lot of influence and will almost certainly be the man in charge at some point down the road; I don't think Miz has much of a future as a main eventer. In a few months, he'll only be 33 years old and he's still a young man; but you can look at WWE as a whole from its developmental programs to the main roster and tell that the landscape is slowly, but surely, changing. I think it's a change that will result in Miz ultimately remaining in the mid-card scene, possibly into the tag team picture with maybe an occasional main event appearance; but not as a top headliner.

 

[GameOver]

Totally disagree, he "was" the most underrated superstar for a long while but now he's just a nobody. Hasn't done anything since his main event at WrestleMania which imo was the pinnacle of his career and it's only downhill from there, he will fade into obscurity or just keep going as a Jericho like doing his in ring show once in a while and that's it.

He worked better as a heel, even with Ric Flair's "backing" it has done nothing for him.

 

[ADLegend21]

I've been a big fan of the Miz, I have several of his shirts, even bought the WWE title after he won it from Randy Orton. It's a shame to hear that Triple H isn't high on him since he's in charge of Talent now, but Miz has overcome the entire locker room not being high on him and being kicked out of it at one point on his way to being the face of the Company in 2010-11. I think with some additions to his game, improvement on the figure-4, maybe (with their being talks of Flair returning to WWE) having Ric in his corner and working with him for a while, he could get back into the main event picture and stay there. his resume is impressive enough as is, but I'd love for him to add a few more world titles to it.

 

[Mac Attack]

Totally disagree, he "was" the most underrated superstar for a long while but now he's just a nobody.

I'm curious on how you can support this statement. I realize the rest of the post is detailing his "kayfabe" career but I'm just curious in your eyes on how you can go from being most underrated and change into simply a nobody. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong I just don't quite understand. The way I view the situation is that if someone is underated the only way they can change that is with the following two scenarios.

1) If they go from underrated to people viewing him as they should

Or

2) If he loses skill in general and is no longer worthy of a rating

Now seeing as we have established that nobody now thinks higher of him I'd suppose you'd be more of a supporter of scenario two. Now my question for you is in now does moving down the rungs in "kayfabe" WWE storylines diminish his talents in anyway. Cause if they don't then therefore he still probably deserves his underrated title. And as I have said and Jack-Hammer said he's still pretty much the same character and uses pretty much the same moves albeit I enjoy the mannerisms he uses in his moves more as a heel. So I guess to summarize I ask you does being moved down in the card diminish his talent and if not then how does it change him from underrated to nobody.

Hasn't done anything since his main event at WrestleMania which imo was the pinnacle of his career and it's only downhill from there, he will fade into obscurity or just keep going as a Jericho like doing his in ring show once in a while and that's it.

It's funny that you equate him to Jeriho in this post. You mention his career has been on a downfall and yet say he'll end up like Jericho. The reason I find it intriguing is because I'd say several people including myself would enjoy another Jericho title run, and I think even more people would say that they have been extremely impressed with Jericho's recent work. So I'm not sure equating hi to Jericho is helping prove your point. If he truly is on Jericho's level then I'd say he's extremely underrated. (I don't think of him as a Jericho equivalent by the way.)

He worked better as a heel, even with Ric Flair's "backing" it has done nothing for him.

I think everyone would agree he was a better heel but still I argue that none of his skills have gone down and simply his character gets less of a WWE positive response. However skill wise I think he still is pretty much the same. Therefore he's still underrated. But feel free to discuss like I said I'm not attaking your point as much as I am curious to see how'd you defend.

 

[sTyLnK]

He's a hard worker and his in ring skills aren't horrible by any means, but I still feel he has this aura around him that makes him seem very..I don't know what it is, the type of person who people don't take seriously. And to me, it feels like he believes he's better than he really is.

He's always quoting the same stuff about winning at WM, yet he's barely don't squat since then, especially anything main event. I just find it strange what Vince and Co. saw in him and yet people who have way more talent in the ring and on the mic, like Ziggler should be in the position he was in. Go figure.

I'll be thankful when Vince finally steps down and Triple H can hopefully assume much more creative control. He'll see the potential in many young wrestlers and actually reward them, instead of teasing them or giving them a push with a horrible gimmick and then burying them.

 

[HBKistheHOF]

The Miz has gotten a heck of a lot better over the past few years inside the ring & I agree that he has a very good moveset. He does also seem to have a pretty good grasp of the psycology, like you stated with the example of him holding the pose in the corner after his running clothesline. But I have a few problems withe The Miz:

1.) Mic Work (Specifically Commentary): I'd argue his reality TV background has actually hurt him in someways with mic work. He is VERY cliche, repeats himself very often & has a flat out annoying way of speaking & cutting promos IMO. & he is a million times worse on commentary, adding nothing & sometimes distracting from the product. It worked alright when he was a heel because it was so very annoying but never really in the good way in the first place, so now as a babyface it's almost unbearable. Which leads me to my next point...

2.) Face Turn: THE MIZ AS A BABYFACE DOESN'T WORK!!! The whole entire character of the Miz is meant to be annoying, brash, self centered, egotistical, etc. EVERYTHING a babyface isn't, that's why he got over as a heel. & what's even weirder to me is that he didn't really have an official face turn. WWE barely even changed anything about him. He is still annoying & pulls somewhat heel tactics at times. Completely illogical.

3.) Look/Size: Let me preface by saying I have always been a fan of the smaller or how I prefer to describe them, the more natural looking guys. I've have never been a big fan of the meat heads that look all roided up. Since childhood they have never appealed to me. But with that being said, by biggest problem with The Miz is that it is almost impossible for me to take him seriously as an in-ring competitor. The Miz looks like a girly, little, metrosexual boy that would start balling from a broken finger nail. When he get's in their with anyone even close to bigger than him, he looks like he should be squashed like a fly. He just looks like the farthest thing from a tough wrestler. Even characters like Rico & Goldust I had no time taking seriously as wrestlers but Miz looks like he belongs in some second rate modeling school.

So sorry but I believe The Miz belongs in his current role. The Miz is the new (& slightly improved) Josh Matthews.

 

[The Eighties]

I think Miz was a good mid-card heel, his stuff with John Morrison was a lot of fun and even his US title run was decent. I think he was out of his depth as a main eventer though and he sucks as a face. In the ring he's solid so his matches are ok, but they are taking away what he does best when he's not allowed to be the odious and obnoxious chickenshit that fits him so well with that fratboy rape face.

I actually think his current role as an all round entertainer and mostly PR specialist is the ideal use of him at this point.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

I'm sorry, but Miz was just a fall guy at Wrestlemania 27. And almost anyone on the WWE roster, who went into that match as WWE Champion was doomed for failure afterwards. Don't believe me? What was the closing segment on Raw the next night? Did it involve the WWE Champion? No. It was all about Cena VS Rock for Wrestlemania 28.

The focus of the main event at Mania 27 was for Rock to get revenge on Cena for the AA on the previous Raw. And what better way for revenge than to cost Cena the WWE Championship in the main event at Wrestlemania? I sincerely believe WWE could've plugged another mid-card level heel into that match. With the Raw briefcase and the right build, another heel could've "defended" the WWE Championship against Cena, because WWE had to work a Rock run-in into the match.

Taker and HHH were fighting over the streak, and Orton and Punk were in a match against each other. Orton was a face at the time, but if he was a heel, The Rock run-in wouldn't have hurt him that much, because Orton is a well-established star. Punk is a maybe, because he didn't drop the pipebomb just yet, so he wasn't at that level.

Anyway, back to Miz. His run as WWE Champion was forgettable at best. Sure, as with damn near everyone, who cashes in a MITB briefcase, you had the shocking moment of Miz winning the title, and the prune face from the little girl. But seriously think back to Miz's WWE Title reign. Besides the cash-in and the little girl, what else is worth remembering?

Not only did he plateau a while ago, but that face turn was the death of Miz. WWE REALLY forced it, and they didn't give the fans a chance to make up their minds. On top of that, Miz didn't really change. He kept the same mannerisms. The only difference is he toned down being such a dick a little bit. That's it. Plus, the Figure Four stuff and Flair didn't do him any favors. And since then, Miz has been floundering in the mid card with no real purpose at all.

I actually like Miz, but he's not main event material. Miz was exposed for having nothing else up his sleeve early on, and he hasn't been able to recover since then. WWE placing him in a "hosting" spot at Summerslam proves this.

Although, and I'm probably in the minority with this, but I think Miz is better off in non-wrestling roles. He presents himself well with the way he dresses, he's a good talker, he's sharp on commentary, and he's an entertaining host on Miz TV. Think back to his two segments with Heyman this year. There's the one with Lesnar during the build to HHH VS Lesnar II at Mania 29, and the one more recently on Smackdown. I can vividly remember both segments being the best non-wrestling parts of the show with Miz doing everything he could possibly do to push Heyman's buttons. Miz isn't getting anywhere near the WWE Championship or WHC anytime soon, and mid card titles won't do anything for him. So I honestly believe WWE should take a shot with a non-wrestling Miz, putting his wrestling career on the back burner for now.

 

[B Negreanu]

Rubbish, pointless thread. The Miz is good, but he sucks now because he is being restricted on the mic.

 

[MINISTRYrising]

YES HE IS UNDERRATED.
I like the Miz and while he is by no means in the same league as say somebody like Punk, He is far better then say guys like Alberto Del Rio and If WWE can repeatedly put the World Title on him then the Miz is more then capable of wearing the Belt. The guy is better then most on the Mic and his Move Set while Not Flashy like Jack-Hammer said, Is still Solid. My only problem with the Miz at the moment is the fact that WWE continue to push him as a face when he is much better as the arrogent and cocky heel of old.

 

[GameOver]

I'm curious on how you can support this statement. I realize the rest of the post is detailing his "kayfabe" career but I'm just curious in your eyes on how you can go from being most underrated and change into simply a nobody. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong I just don't quite understand. The way I view the situation is that if someone is underated the only way they can change that is with the following two scenarios.

1) If they go from underrated to people viewing him as they should

Or

2) If he loses skill in general and is no longer worthy of a rating

Now seeing as we have established that nobody now thinks higher of him I'd suppose you'd be more of a supporter of scenario two. Now my question for you is in now does moving down the rungs in "kayfabe" WWE storylines diminish his talents in anyway. Cause if they don't then therefore he still probably deserves his underrated title. And as I have said and Jack-Hammer said he's still pretty much the same character and uses pretty much the same moves albeit I enjoy the mannerisms he uses in his moves more as a heel. So I guess to summarize I ask you does being moved down in the card diminish his talent and if not then how does it change him from underrated to nobody.



It's funny that you equate him to Jeriho in this post. You mention his career has been on a downfall and yet say he'll end up like Jericho. The reason I find it intriguing is because I'd say several people including myself would enjoy another Jericho title run, and I think even more people would say that they have been extremely impressed with Jericho's recent work. So I'm not sure equating hi to Jericho is helping prove your point. If he truly is on Jericho's level then I'd say he's extremely underrated. (I don't think of him as a Jericho equivalent by the way.)



I think everyone would agree he was a better heel but still I argue that none of his skills have gone down and simply his character gets less of a WWE positive response. However skill wise I think he still is pretty much the same. Therefore he's still underrated. But feel free to discuss like I said I'm not attaking your point as much as I am curious to see how'd you defend.

I never said anything about his in ring skills, i just said he's done nothing noteworthy since that WrestleMania even to the point of only periodically wrestling the last several months and as a face he's bland. and yes i realise thats mostly because WWE isn't doing anything usefull with him, but every minute of air time he gets he IMO is not doing much with other then the same Really Really bit which is old.

 

[HereComesTheBrain]

The Miz is by far the most underrated wrestler in the promotion today. Working in reality tv made his mic skills better, because he can easily make people hate or like him (one of the most crucial mic skills needed to do well in wrestling).

He is a good wrestler as well. Not AMAZING as such, but good enough to be high midcard. His WWE Championship reign eventually got ridiculous, but putting a WHC on him would give him a boost. He, by a LONG stretch, is one of the most underrated wrestlers in the WWE right now. He should be competing on Main Event, not commentating on it.

 

[Perfected123]

The Miz is a goofball.

He deserves to be in the position he is. That lower midcard/midcard position is perfect for him because it symbolises his talent and ability.

It's no coincidence that WWE is currently in its best position, product-wise, it has been in a long time. That is because we have great workers AND characters in the upper midcard/main event position. The Miz does not fit that description. He's a sub par ring worker, corny as hell and just down right annoying.

It's a travesty to the business the fact that he is the one to use the Figure Four these days. Thing is though, Miz shouldn't care. He gets to go home to Maryse. That guy must have one hell of a length on him, that has to be the reason Maryse would date such a goofball.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Wrestlezone, I understand that there's a wound given to a lot of wrestling fans that hasn't healed because he main evented Mania. There's a wound that can't go away because he's a "poor man's Rick Flair." However Wrestlezone, The Miz is far greater then what he gets credit for. He constantly does his best and tries his hardest to entertain. Is he the most underrated? That's debatable. But does he deserve more credit then he gets?

Absolutely.

Absolutely, you're an idiot.

First of all saying he's a 'poor man's Ric Flair' showcases your naivety. They did a few episodes where he added the Figure Four to his arsenal and Flair was there for it. Comparing Miz to Flair is like comparing Jey Uso to Hogan, why? You know he does the leg drop too. And seriously have you seen a Flair match?


Secondly at Mania 27 Miz played ZERO part in the ME. You could take anybody else on the roster, and I swear to God, I mean anybody and put him there instead of The Miz and the PPV buyrate would've been the same. Know why boy? Because it was all about The Rock and Cena. The only notable thing Miz did during the ME is come out pushing an inflatable Awesome prop.


He was collateral. And by the end of the night I was thanking the sweet lord that we didn't get a Punk vs Cena ME that we were all craving for, because that would've been a blatant misuse of what Punk could bring to the table. Although he did steal the show with Orton.



And lastly, Miz is underrated you say? No, he is rightly rated and used by the WWE. His gab is good and WWE uses that for media junkets, interviews, promo segments. He has the only interview segment in WWE at present with Miz TV. And he is doing a fair enough job there. I would never pay to see a Miz match, I would enjoy it if he talks though because that is his strength.

How the fuck is he underrated?

 

[Mac Attack]

Absolutely, you're an idiot.

PG, I'm sorry but after reading your post you're dead wrong.

First of all saying he's a 'poor man's Ric Flair' showcases your naivety. They did a few episodes where he added the Figure Four to his arsenal and Flair was there for it. Comparing Miz to Flair is like comparing Jey Uso to Hogan, why? You know he does the leg drop too. And seriously have you seen a Flair match?

Not comprehending why I wrote "poor man's Ric Flair" shows your ignorance or inattentiveness to WWE programming. Not only has he been called this by WWE personnel, but he has referenced this himself in speaking and talking about his current career. Watch any real life interview he does that mentions Flair and he'll phrase it like this or watch when he actually wrestles and uses the figure-four he'll get called this again. PG, it wasn't my words but their programming. And last I checked the Uso's use a cross body not a leg drop.

Secondly at Mania 27 Miz played ZERO part in the ME. You could take anybody else on the roster, and I swear to God, I mean anybody and put him there instead of The Miz and the PPV buyrate would've been the same.

Awesome, now that we've shown you're still butthurt over the fact that he main evented WrestleMania, I think you need to get to what my point of my post and look at HIS TALENT. Not what he kayfabe draws, not what his kayfabe storylines are but HIS TALENT. Cause according to your Cesaro must be totally a talentless nothing considering he loses a ton and is stuck with Jack Swagger. Kayfabe is not the same and TALENT.

Oh and guess what I bought Mania for the MIZ, not the Rock not Cena, THE MIZ.

Know why boy? Because it was all about The Rock and Cena.

PG, what's your point? You're talking about the drawing ability of one math this entire time. I'm curious about the Miz and what you think of his TALENT, not one match that was used to set up the next Mania.

The only notable thing Miz did during the ME is come out pushing an inflatable Awesome prop.

Funny we remember that match totally different. I think the most notable thing he dd was....oh that's right pin Cena.

He was collateral. And by the end of the night I was thanking the sweet lord that we didn't get a Punk vs Cena ME that we were all craving for, because that would've been a blatant misuse of what Punk could bring to the table. Although he did steal the show with Orton.

Once again you're refusing to talk about the Miz. You're avoiding the fact that in-ring and on Mic he has talent which was the point of this thread. Now you're just sounding like someone stuck in the past.

And lastly, Miz is underrated you say? No, he is rightly rated and used by the WWE. His gab is good and WWE uses that for media junkets, interviews, promo segments. He has the only interview segment in WWE at present with Miz TV. And he is doing a fair enough job there. I would never pay to see a Miz match, I would enjoy it if he talks though because that is his strength.

It's funny cause the greatest match I've ever seen in real life was a Miz match albeit with Punk in a Cage however I did pay to see it. I recognize you're still not over the main event of Mania and can't see past that but honestly you're saying that someone who people just don't like for the heck of it which when reading a lot of these posts seems to be true deserves that? Come on PG, surely you're able to see past personal bias and look at TALENT.

How the fuck is he underrated?

Read the OP

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

PG, I'm sorry but after reading your post you're dead wrong.


Not comprehending why I wrote "poor man's Ric Flair" shows your ignorance or inattentiveness to WWE programming. Not only has he been called this by WWE personnel, but he has referenced this himself in speaking and talking about his current career. Watch any real life interview he does that mentions Flair and he'll phrase it like this or watch when he actually wrestles and uses the figure-four he'll get called this again. PG, it wasn't my words but their programming. And last I checked the Uso's use a cross body not a leg drop.



Awesome, now that we've shown you're still butthurt over the fact that he main evented WrestleMania, I think you need to get to what my point of my post and look at HIS TALENT. Not what he kayfabe draws, not what his kayfabe storylines are but HIS TALENT. Cause according to your Cesaro must be totally a talentless nothing considering he loses a ton and is stuck with Jack Swagger. Kayfabe is not the same and TALENT.

Oh and guess what I bought Mania for the MIZ, not the Rock not Cena, THE MIZ.



PG, what's your point? You're talking about the drawing ability of one math this entire time. I'm curious about the Miz and what you think of his TALENT, not one match that was used to set up the next Mania.




Funny we remember that match totally different. I think the most notable thing he dd was....oh that's right pin Cena.



Once again you're refusing to talk about the Miz. You're avoiding the fact that in-ring and on Mic he has talent which was the point of this thread. Now you're just sounding like someone stuck in the past.



It's funny cause the greatest match I've ever seen in real life was a Miz match albeit with Punk in a Cage however I did pay to see it. I recognize you're still not over the main event of Mania and can't see past that but honestly you're saying that someone who people just don't like for the heck of it which when reading a lot of these posts seems to be true deserves that? Come on PG, surely you're able to see past personal bias and look at TALENT.



Read the OP

I am butthurt, coz I said Miz was disposable...yup you're being a bloody fool now. I said I don't give two shits who ME'd against Cena, the lead up was more about Rock and Cena and so was the culmination of the match. They had to dress Miz up as The Rock so we didn't totally forget about him during the build up.

Get it through your thick skull, I don't care about the Miz being in the ME because for me, and many other people(and you can do a poll to see), paid to see Rock, Cena, Orton, Punk, Taker, Trips. You saying 'wow you're hurt' makes you look like a dipshit because I don't care that he did. He was a non-factor and disposable. After Cena AA'd Rock on the Road to WM, and then The Rock did his Anonymous GM shit during that clusterfuck of a match, everyone knew what was gonna happen. That Mania didn't end with Miz holding his title, it ended with your host posing at the turnbuckle.


And for the last fucking time, he DOES have talent and he is being used correctly by the WWE. How the fuck is he underrated when they are letting him play to his strengths? Remember when Heyman looked Miz in the eye and said 'you really wanna talk to Punk after knowing how he feels about you on live TV?' You know how that translates: Punk would rape him of his talent if given a mic because while Miz is good, Punk is a natural on the mic.

Miz is fine where he is.

 

[Astus]

Great post, OP. Don't let any Negative Nancy get to you because what you've written here is a very compelling piece. I was pretty apathetic when it came to The Miz but the post you have here has made me reconsider my stance. Now, that I think about it, he is indeed a very versatile and valuable talent. Not only is his in-ring moveset varied and not only does it draw from numerous sources but The Miz is one of the charismatic superstars around. He's a natural on the mic and you just see how in his element he is when being interviewed. He really oozes charisma.

On the internet, it's a cool thing to hate The Miz and try and discredit him but to be quite frank, it's mostly the result of jealous haters. People who could never, ever hope to emulate his success or his hard work and are thus destined to hate and jeer. It's sad and I believe that one day, if they open their eyes and just allow themselves to see what is truly there rather than what they want to see then they will be able to acknowledge just how talented The Miz is.

I honestly believe that in several years that The Miz will eclipse even Ric Flair (a guy who is incredibly overrated btw) and I hope that he is able to get out of that ridiculous shadow. It's only a matter of time before The Miz attains the level of success that he deserves. What is that saying again? The cream will always rise to the top.

 

[MCMG]

I've been a big fan of the Miz since his US title reign where he proved that he has talent. He was a terrific heel and his matches were always of a good quality. I was delighted when he won the MITB and I'd be lying if I said him cashing it in wasn't one of my favourite moments in wrestling in the few years.

Was being involved in the main-event of WM with John Cena and The Rock a step too far? Perhaps, but if anyone was going to fill that role to progress their feud that The Miz deserved it. He was brilliant building up to that match and it is a shame his career hasn't stayed at that level.

The best thing for The Miz now is to turn heel. He is a popular face but I don't think it is going to help his career. He is behind Cena, Punk, Bryan plus part-timers HHH, The Rock, Taker, Jericho, RVD - good lucking achieving anything significant in that crowd. If he turned heel than he could easily become the World Heavyweight Champion. I would love to see him vs Dolph Ziggler, Sheamus, Punk at WM30 for the WHC. Remember, The Miz is still young and can achieve a lot in his career.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

The Miz in my opinion is the most underrated Superstar in the entire WWE. The Miz is not widely liked on these forums on understand that, however the that still doesn't take away from the talents that he is. I believe a lot of people are still sore over the fact that he main evented a WrestleMania but quite frankly I believe he was given an opportunity and shined through that and continues to shine in the WWE. Now no doubt his face turn did him no favors however I still think he has all the talent, skill, and marketability to become a top WWE superstar once again.

One thing that I have always enjoyed about the Miz and also I find great about him is his move set. He uses a plethora of maneuvers that not only make his matches good but make the matches that he is in so much more interesting And the truth is it's just not the fact that he has the ability to hit certain moves it's how he does it. Notice when he does his running corner clothesline. He hits it and holds on to it for a moment either showing his cockiness when he's a heel or his pleasure of hitting his move when he's a face. His heel work and move set shatters that of his face move set however he is still extremely talented when he gets into the ring ad I feel this often goes unnoticed.

His realty TV background enhances his mic work and his in ring work. He is one of those people who knows how to work a crowd. People may not like him but he uses them to his advantage and can always cut solid promos. This is seen through him earning his Miz TV segments and having them constantly be the means of setting something up. Also watch his facial expressions inside the ring. He has the ability to show exactly how the match is going by the way he expresses himself. He usually is serious but when he has the advantage he is cheerful and when he's losing he looks in distress. As an entertainer and an actor Miz does indeed have some of the best quality work whether you like it or not.

The Miz puts in the "extra" effort. If you want to see a WWE superstar who does a ton of WWE things after the shows and live events it's the Miz. Whether attending a convention, a talk show, a signing, who is the WWE's go to guy the Miz. He always is a crowd pleaser knows how to connect and knows how to sell the WWE product. He's the host of Summerslam and whilst most wrestling fans (myself included) are not looking forward to this because it will take away from in-rig time, I truly believe he will do the best he can to entertain the masses.

Wrestlezone, I understand that there's a wound given to a lot of wrestling fans that hasn't healed because he main evented Mania. There's a wound that can't go away because he's a "poor man's Rick Flair." However Wrestlezone, The Miz is far greater then what he gets credit for. He constantly does his best and tries his hardest to entertain. Is he the most underrated? That's debatable. But does he deserve more credit then he gets?

Absolutely.

I'm not a fan of the guy at all, but I can agree with a lot of what you've said here. The guy does have a great work ethic, a great attitude, and he does work at his craft.

My biggest problem with him though, is in the ring. You mentioned that you like his moveset as one of his strengths, but I just don't see it. Yes, when working heel, he likes to lay a move in a second longer for emphasis, but I never see him doing that as him trying to inflict extra punishment in a sadistic or underhanded way. To me it always just comes across as him pandering to the crowd to put over his cockiness... which is fine as long as the face is using those moments to regain the advantage, which doesn't happen enough in Miz matches. His psychology is a little off. He's the underhanded heel who should be building his heat with cheapshots when the refs back is turned.

I also just don't get the sense that this is a tough fighter that can kick the ass of anyone he comes across. I know wrestlers today aren't as big as they used to be on average, but look at a guy like CM Punk for example. Yeah he doesn't look like much physically, but without knowing his background, he still manages to convey the sense that this is a guy that you, the average person, don't want to mess with. Punk maybe an extreme example since he is one of the best in the world, but the extreme example is still valid. If I ran into Punk on the streets and he wanted a fight, I'd think twice about it. If I ran into Miz looking for a fight, I'd feel a lot more confident I could take him. Realistically of course not, because even the softest full time wrestler is still pretty damn tough, but perceptually yeah.

The thing with Miz though, is because he does put a lot of effort into learning and perfecting his craft, I can see him doing something about that as the years go on. Just look at where the guy was just 5 or 6 years ago compared to today.

They should just never let him be a baby face. While he seems like a nice enough guy when he's doing talk shows and promotional stuff... he's just a natural heel and they really need to run with that.

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

BWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I cannot believe this.... THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE SAYING THIS GUY IS NOT PURE GAR-BEAN-O!!! The Miz is TRASH..... I have NEVER wavered on that fact....

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

He is mediocre at best...Okay wait he is DECENT in the ring is what I am reading... LOL... So U are giving him a FULL RIDE SCHOLARSHIP because he is a C student.... WHAT? He was in ME status... That means U R TOP TIER.... NOT DECENT... U R SUPPOSE TO BE THE BEST AT WHAT U DO.... U dont get an ALL STAR appearance because U were okay this season...U dont get into REAL HALL OF FAMES because U have an okay career.... U have 2 be THE BEST OF THE BEST..... Oh and he's a HARD WORKER.... LOL LMAO LMMFAO.... Who cares? They don't give awards for hardest workers... There is an honor roll for best GPA but I have never heard of MOST HOURS SPENT STUDYING AND STILL GETTING C'S AWARDS.... There is a guy in the NBA or NBDL who works HARDER than LeBron each practice... Unfortunately he only has a fraction of he skills so he rides the pine but ACCORDING to U guys he deserves a 100 million dollar contract... I MEAN HE IS TRYING HARD.... BWAWAWHAHAHAHAH,,, WHO CARES.... HE SUX!!!!

I really hate when people bring up his great mic skills.... 4 REAL... What does he say that is soooooooo captivating to U people? I mean his catch phrases are "REALLY and AWWWWEEEEEESSSSSSSSOOOMMMMMM!!!!" Wasnt that Bill and Teds in the 80's and 90's as well... Maybe Keanu should be given the belt...

Oh and if being an actor with no wrestling ability is what U think should make U A MEventer than ya'll should have loved DAVID ARQUETTE'S glorious and distinguished reign..... I mean have U seen him in Scream 2.... He really made me believe he was a small town cop named DEWEY.... THAT RIGHT THERE DESERVES WORLD TITLES RIGHT....

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LOL LMAO LMMFAO....

THE MIZ IS TERRIBLE.... I was disgusted he got pushed down our throats... I was pissed they tried 2 make him seem tough.... And I hate that if RIC FLAIR AND CHRIS JERICHO HAD A BABY IT WOULD BE THE MIZ

 

[g12solution]

I like the miz until his face turn, it kinda ruined him for me. Don't get me wrong i wanted the miz to turn face so bad because I thought he would be great. But his character is just too cheesy and generic. He has great charisma and his ring work is much better than than a lot of guys on the roster. But I think he needs a character change

 

[5000]

As a Heel Yeah but as a face He seems like on e of them washed up legends

 

[KnowYoRole]

I completely agree. The people that hate him hate him because:

1. He doesn't "look" intimidating
2. CM Punk hates him and they're punk marks
3. He made a couple of serious botches
4. They insist on saying he doesn't deserve anything because he's a "reality star."

As for number 1, I find it funny that when people rag on Punk or Bryan for not "looking the part" their fans get defensive...yet they hate the Miz for the same thing. I will concede that Miz does not indeed look intimidating but it's a dumb reason why people hate him.

As for the botches with R Truth and almost injuring him, yeah that's bad but people seem to want to ignore that aside from the odd freak accidents, he is a solid ring worker and does a good enough job.

I enjoyed the Miz's WWE title reign. He was entertaining, had surprisingly fun matches with Jerry Lawler, and his best mic work was in that period of time. I agree that since he became face he's been very boring but that's what happens when you give him absolutely nothing to work with besides a lame midcard title feud.

There are several people that deserve to main event over the Miz, but that isn't what I'm arguing, I'm arguing that he's not complete crap like everyone else thinks.