The Miz - Fall From Grace

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Miz hasn't really had a fall from grace. He's still super over. He's being booked in a way where he is treading water while Cena makes some more guys. Miz is over enough and has the credability of working with Cena now so he elevates any other feud he's in.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Miz has not had a fall. He is still one of Raw's top guys. The conspiracy angle led to him tag teaming with Truth. This will elevate Truth and the tag team division as well. I don't like Miz but am able to respect his improvement. He will probably be champion again. Now, like others have said, Drew has fallen because he went from The Chosen One to The Missing One. Miz is still being pushed hard. He has not fallen whatsoever and will be fine.

 

[Sin Jackal]

I think the problem with Miz is that he got pushed way too fast. Miz right now is where he should have been "6 months ago", and "6 months ago" is where Miz should be right now. I don't think any of you have forgotten the crickets chirping during Miz's wrestlemania match any time Miz went on the offensive. Even the Cena boobirds didn't boo Cena very much at all during the match because they were annoyed with the Miz's premature huge push and would even rather see Cena win again than see Miz continue to be champion.

Lately, the Miz has become bearable to me once he's teamed up with R Truth. Rather than continuously just talk about himself, he talks about other people a lot which is much more entertaining. Normally I like every heel, but Miz was just god awful annoying before recently. Anyway, that's just my opinion on him obviously.

I don't think The Miz is getting buried right now. He's still being utilized during the mid card on Raw. The mid card on Raw isn't the same as the mid card on Smackdown. . .Raw is a much more interesting show, and a lot more effort is put into the entire deal. Which is unlike Smackdown, which has 2-3 decent segments, then basically a bunch of borderline minor league dudes having matches in between to fill air time. Oh, and 3-4 commercial breaks during every main event. -_-

Miz and R Truth's rap segment on Raw a couple weeks ago was one of the funniest Raw moments in a long time. The two work well together on the mic, and I think there's a chance they will defeat Air Boom for the titles and be used to push the tag team division back into prominence. Once that's done, they might split up and have Miz go for the world title again while perhaps R Truth goes for the Intercontinental title to spice up that branch too.

 

[RicoLen]

I was thinking about this for a while. I kinda think this putting Miz into a tag team is the first step towards turning The Miz face. Sooner or later, we all know The Miz & R-Truth are going to have a falling out. They could just shake hands and part ways, but not likely, they'll fight, and it could be that they'll start arguing and it'll escalate into a physical confrontation, but I think since R-Truth really just barely turned heel, he'll probably betray The Miz, Miz will turn face, they'll feud, and then The Miz will go on to feud for the WWE Championship as a face.

The Miz is just biding his time, and I think his time is coming soonish. Perhaps shortly after WM28. That's my guess at least. But I certainly don't think The Miz is falling in clout at all.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

Hey Guys, Once again the WWE have given another talented wrestler the proverbial boot. This time it's The Miz, 6 months ago he was headlining the main event of Wrestlemania as WWE champion and won. But where is he know? Back in the midcard and back as a tag team competitor.

After he won at Wrestlemania I thought finally he might become a regular main eventer. But then what happened? He lost the WWE to no-other than John Cena, and this was followed up by a loss to Alex Riley at Capitol Punishment. Just as I thought he was going to regularly main event PPV'S he gets pushed but down into the midcard.

And then after he finally made it as singles competitor they shove him right back into the tag team division. Why would wwe do this considering The Miz's push was near perfect.

So guys I want you to answer this:

* Why would the WWE give The Miz such a big push which was actually succesful, and then bring him back down to a midcarder and then eventually back into a tag team?

1.) The tag team division is not the bottom of the WWE barrel. Some of the greatest stars of all time were Tag Team stars WAY before they become a household name in sports entertainment, and a lot of them would revisit that division when there wasn't enough room in the "main event"

2.) He's been given the boot? If by boot you mean he's been given a change to work with somebody else they think has potential and are trying to raise to the top, than sure. Chris Masters was given the boot. Koslov was given the boot. The Miz isn't the WWE Champion and is working his way back there. There's kind of a Grand Canyon between those two positions.

3.) You need to get past this idea that main eventers are John Cena and whoever is holding or challenging for the WWE title. I could name a dozen guys that are definite main eventers that spent MOST of their careers completely away from the WWE title! I guess by very definition of the words "main event" than yeah, whoever is the final, most talked about match of the card is the "main eventer" of that show. But we all know that's not what's going on here.

Ok, enough with the numbering system... The Miz is a huge star in the WWE. Months ago he WAS main eventing WrestleMania as the WWE Champion, even beating John Cena in that lackluster MAIN EVENT match. Then came Alberto del Rio and CM Punk. Clearly mommy never taught you that sharing is good, because every once in awhile somebody needs to be taken out of the title picture so somebody else has a shot. It's what keeps things fresh. If the Miz was still champion I guarantee you'd be whining about that right now. He is still doing more PR work and extra-curricular activity than anybody besides John Cena and Randy Orton. His place in the company is secure and they trust him with the WWE title and the name of Monday Night Raw. He hasn't gone ANYWHERE. If anything you can see how much they trust him because they let Alex Riley go over him. They used him to make somebody else credible and protect the future of the company. And now he's with R-truth, who is great talent but isn't going anywhere on his own. So don't tell me that he's a mid-card star all the sudden because they're forcing him back into the tag division. In my opinion it would be an HONOR for him to hold those belts one more time, and he'll make everyone else look good in the process.

Everyone wants THEIR GUY to be number one all the time. Well, unless your guy is John Cena that's really not going to happen.

 

[hollowpoint]

The MIz hasn't fell from grace at all. He's easily the #2 heel on Raw and is currently teaming with R Truth and has a Tag Title shot at NoC. I wouldn't call that a fall. As much as I hate to say it, the Miz held the WWE Title longer than anyone expected and longer than anyone in the past 3 years. I think since The WWE Title picture is kinda jumbled at the moment, they are trying to establish the tag team division and alongside R Truth, I think it can be done. The Miz has improved tremendously and although im not a fan of his (Didn't watch for weeks after he won), I can respect the work he's put in for not only the company, but himself as well.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

I wouldn't really call Miz's present position as a fall from grace. He is featured regularly on the programming and gets a good 15 minute match on Raw or a solid promo to cut every week. If he rose up to the main event status the next week, I certainly would not feel that anything has gone amiss.

Being a main event heel is a double edged sword to be honest. That is true for all companies mind you. You get to be the centre of attraction for the months during which you are main eventing but you are bound to fall slightly down the card once your program with the top face gets over. It then depends on the wrestler if he gets lost in the shuffle or remains relevant. Fortunately for The Miz, due to his excellent mic skills and the backing he gets from the higher ups in the company, I don't think he will be lost in the shuffle at all.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

This thread is pretty sided that The Miz has indeed not fallen from grace.

The Miz is still doing well. They're still giving him television time, they've placed him in a formidibale and entertaining tag team with R-Truth who'll propably defeat Kofi and Bourne at Night of Champions. Hes joined this little conspiracy angle with Truth which gives The Miz more content to ramble on about, plus there seems to be one thing that so many wrestling fans don't get.

Not everyone, can always be, in the Main Event. The Miz had his like six month reign as the WWE Champion, he was pushed up everyones asshole, he was in the Main Event scene of Monday Night RAW nearly every night. He was pushed against The Rock, given the Main Event of WrestleMania and he even won the Main Event of WrestleMania. He was the flavor for six months, he now moves aside and others come in. That is how the general process seems to work.

The Miz is far from fallen. He is still on the cusp of the Main Event, the entertainment from the segment with Truth last week was brilliant and to be honest that is what The Miz needs. Plus, they used him to get Alex Riley over and he hasn't fallen at all, so once you've got somebody over at your expense and still have a recognizable position on the show, that is when you know you're of value.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

A fall from grace is whatever the fuck they are doing with Wade Barrett.

Miz, on the other hand, is given a prominent role on the show. Is he main eventing the show? No. He isn't feuding with John Cena. He has gotten the top of the second hour slot every since he lost the belt. The middle of the show is usually what gets one of the biggest ratings jump of the week. So, basically, Miz is still number 3 on the show.

 

[XXJJ]

He is on tv cutting promos or having matches every week. I dont understand how that is a "fall from grace". A lot of heels bounce back and fourth from main event to mid card.

Never really got his appeal. He is a shitty wrestler. And almost always cuts the same promo.

 

[The_Awesome_One]

I agree that he has kInda fallen. 5 months ago he was WWE champion and now he hasn't won a PPV match since WM 27. Then he got back up to the top in a WWE title match with mysterio. He lost. Now he's gone back into tag team division with R-truth. So in 5 months he went from WWE champ to tag team division, so I have to say that is a fall from grace.

 

[Bender]

It has become an common trend to do this, I thought it would be a good run of how he was getting pushed into becoming a regular main eventer. But they threw him back into being a Mid-Carder and for a good logical reason, not everyone can have the spotlight. And as The Miz was being a top heel guy, I don't think he would of lasted long to be honest. Not as long as most of the top face guys.

Besides, all this doesn't mean we can't listen to his cocky attitude. I think he is good where he is, It's not like he has dropped in his fan base or anything..

 

[HBK_EDGE]

Please don't tell me Morrison is better than the Miz. I just don't get the Morrison hype as another thread on here earlier said Morrison is nothing more than a spot monkey. Comparing him to Shawn Micheals is just downright insulting.

For the Miz, not a demotion it is just part of reviving the tag team division. The revival of the tag division will be great for the product and if the Miz helps build it than he will be remembered for that.

 

[flawd101]

miz is excellent with promos and the tag division needs that more than anything. i think in a few years he has a chance at being super miz.
jomo has a great moveset but i think he needs better work at setting up his moves and needs to redo his image before he can be taken seriously as a contender.

 

[Pink Wolf]

Miz is a great performer and is awesome on the mic. He and rtruth are being used to bring prestige to the tag titles again. since they have formed, i've cared more about the tag titles. that is a good sign. Hopefully more good will follow!

 

[gamma2008]

the WWE doesn't just have guys lose matches because they are awful...thanks to the Miz Alex Riley gets a nice pop from the crowd and would definitely not be in the US title picture if it weren't for that PPV match. Summerslam was a random pile of BS, so much focus was placed on Cena/Punk part 2 that the other matches were all sort of lost in the shuffle, in my opinion.

 

[corinoiswrestling]

Just because he isn't involved in the best storyline or wrestling in world title matches dont mean he is falling from grace, he has already established himself as a main eventer at WM, Thats more then what ADR or Punk have done so far.

i get tired of people thinking just because a guy isn't working with the strap he isn't relivent anymore.. only person that needs to be involved in the title constantly to remain relivent is Super cena, take that away from him its like taking a bottle from a baby.

Being away from the title for a few months would hurt him long term, maybe short term, he may lose a little momentum, but this is what good writing / fueds is all about. working with the right guy/s

People still eat up the Rocks BS after 7 or 8 years of being away and he gets away with the same ol' lines and catch phrases, if MIZ truely has fans and people Know how talented he is the cream will always rise to the top. so dont stress too much

 

[bradtech519]

There's only so much room in the main event on RAW.. We got CM Punk/Cena in their storylines. WWE is attempting to merge Truth/Miz into the Punk/HHH storyline which is even bigger than the Cena title picture going on.