The Miz Buried

[baldjedi]

In some ways I do believe Miz got squashed similar to how the big show got squashed against Cena in two straights PPV's which annoyed me. Right now they keep guys like Orton, HHH and Cena, and I guess Batista on top and aren't letting anyone else break the glass ceiling.

I do believe if they want to make Miz and Cena interesting then Miz should screw Cena's chance against HHH next week and win against him. Give Miz a win, even if it is a cheat to give Miz some credibility otherwise what has been built for the last two months will be meaningless. It is more appealing when mid-cards can rise up on occasion and beat the main eventers so that the main-eventers garner more interest.

I have to say Miz is improving his mic skills and deserves some chance to really show himself off just like guys like MVP do, otherwise we will never see Raw grow for years to come.

 

[Rated_Phenomenal]

Now im not a fan of Cena whatsover...but in my personal opinion they could of gave a better match at the Bash. Raw is burying all these young upcoming stars when they should be helping them build a better roster. In my personal opinion the buildup to Cena and Miz was good, I would of loved to seen The Miz pick up a victory at the Bash (of course by cheating), and then the next night at Raw, Cena could of picked up the victory. That would of helped Miz alot and put him up there as a future contender for the belt. Right now, it could of helped him carry onto to a possible Miz/Kofi feud. But I think the Raw creative team has egos on their mind. And it looks like Cena has a huuuggggeee ego.

 

[Nate DaMac]

I am going back to saying The Miz was buried. After all that buildup, after looking so good in the match on Raw last week, he wasn't even fucking used this week! Not a match, promo, not even a fucking backstage segment! This feud did jack shit for The Miz. He is right back to where he started. Man this pisses me off. What was the point? I don't think the program flopped. I think quite a few people were into it.

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

And what's messed up is that he's no on any of the WWE TV this week. Preposterous.

But missing one week doesn't say he's buried just yet. It's not a good sign to be off of TV and what I hope happens is that the Miz can take some of the reigns that Edge will leave behind with his injury. This is the time for mid-card talent like Miz to shine. He has the potential to be a great talent if the WWE knows what to do with him.

 

[RatedRKO93]

k honestly i watched raw tonight and they show the miz come out against cena and i thought i would finally see the miz have a good match against cena without making him look weak. What WWE needs to do is let the miz have a nice 10-15 min match with someone like cena or someone else big so they can make him look good. His last couple match's with cena have been stupid. I personally think the miz isn't quite ready for the main event but he will be in a year or so. For now i think he should be winning the a mid-card title like the US Title or something like that.

So my question is for all of you is:What do you think the future holds for the miz do you think he will a main eventer or will he just be buried in a couple months thoughts?

 

[The Holy One]

I felt the match he had with Cena b/f last night (the one in the NOC tournament when Batista was the guest host) was actually pretty good, and Cena made Miz look very credible in the ring. As for right now, I feel he's in that top mid-card region with Henry and MVP. Although, I think if he stays on the path he's already on with his nice mic skills and improve his ring work. I could see the Miz as a main eventer in one or two years time.

 

[Spaceman Spif]

k honestly i watched raw tonight and they show the miz come out against cena and i thought i would finally see the miz have a good match against cena without making him look weak. What WWE needs to do is let the miz have a nice 10-15 min match with someone like cena or someone else big so they can make him look good. His last couple match's with cena have been stupid. I personally think the miz isn't quite ready for the main event but he will be in a year or so. For now i think he should be winning the a mid-card title like the US Title or something like that.

So my question is for all of you is:What do you think the future holds for the miz do you think he will a main eventer or will he just be buried in a couple months thoughts?

I don't know what matches you watched, but Cena has always made look The Miz look good, like he could beat him, but doesn't get it done and the matches were about 10-15 minutes I believe, so there goes that theory. We all knew Cena would win, it was given, but some thought Cena would bury The Miz in Triple H fashion, but he didn't, he let The Miz show what he could do and I learned that The Miz can do alot, but he's not ready to topple the biggest star in the company right now. So all in all, the matches were exactly what I thought they would be.

The Miz will not be buried and in time he will take his spot in the main event when it is time for him to do so, but now is not the time, so he'll be made to be a threat, but he won't actually get a "credible" victory over someone like Cena just yet.

 

[Blue Chipper]

k honestly i watched raw tonight and they show the miz come out against cena and i thought i would finally see the miz have a good match against cena without making him look weak.

His last couple match's with cena have been stupid.

Last nights match, and their match at the Bash were alike; both matches had Cena controlling most of the match, with Miz getting in a small bit of offense. But, just becasue Cena won, decisively, does not mean that the Miz was not boosted at all by the feud and matches, becasue he obviously did benefit from them. The Miz was low on the card, not getting that much heat at all, but when he feuded with Cena, the top face, he recieved a great amount of heel heat, and was moved up on the card.
And we move on to this:

What WWE needs to do is let the miz have a nice 10-15 min match with someone like cena or someone else big so they can make him look good.

The Miz DID have a good match where he got in a lot of offense against someone big, unless you don't consider WWE's currently top draw huge. In their Raw match, Miz got in a load of his offense and signature moves on Cena, and Cena barely got the win in the end. Tell me that match didn't have Miz looking great.

So my question is for all of you is:What do you think the future holds for the miz do you think he will a main eventer or will he just be buried in a couple months thoughts?

He'll remain in the mid card for a majority of his career, not that that's a bad thing, but he could possibly be in the main event one day becasue he is starting to catch heat fairly easy, and if WWE wanted to push a new heel, he certainly is a good option.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Cena did not make Miz look bad in any way last night. Let's go through this slowly.

Cena needed to beat Mark Henry's time of 6:49 to become the #1 contender. Miz knows this and he wasted time by being outside the ring which every other person has done in that situation. Miz got offense in and Cena won. What is there to complain about? If Cena dominated that match, people would have been complaining about him burying Miz but he didn't so what's the problem?

 

[Blade]

The Miz has dominated Cena for periods of their matches. But come on, it never looked like Miz had Cena beat. Miz has never even tried to go for the Reality Check, or whatever his finishing move is. Their matches follow the same patterns, Miz dominates, Cena mounts a little comeback, Miz dominates some more, makes a mistake, Cena hits the 5 moves of doom and the match is over.
While the "feud" with Cena has gotten the Miz some good heat, I think he'd be better off feuding with someone on his own level. If they really want to make him a top heel, they'd make him attack Kofi. Judging by the reaction Kofi got last night, he's only behind Cena and Triple H as most over face. So Miz vs Kofi over the US title would be a feud that people would really really care about. With Miz working the mic and Kofi carrying the matches it could be pretty awesome.

 

[lifeindecember]

I would love to see a Swagger/Miz feud. I don't think a Miz/Kofi feud would be that fun to watch. I could see Kofi quickly dropping the title to him and then Miz feuding with Swagger. Even with them both being heels, I can see that being a good feud. Lots of aggression.

Plus, maybe then Kofi could tag with Evan Bourne.

 

[SavageTaker]

k honestly i watched raw tonight and they show the miz come out against cena and i thought i would finally see the miz have a good match against cena without making him look weak.

Cena doesn’t make The Miz look weak. As a matter of fact, Cena makes The Miz look more like a credible wrestler every time they are in a match together. You have to understand that John Cena is a main-eventer and The Miz is a mid-carder who has yet proved himself to be worthy of challenging main-eventers. But guess what? He’s still put up against them. Doesn't that tell you something?

What WWE needs to do is let the miz have a nice 10-15 min match with someone like cena or someone else big so they can make him look good.

That’s absolutely the opposite of what the WWE needs to do. He shouldn’t be facing guys like John Cena and other main-eventers because he hasn’t proven himself to be a good mid-card wrestler yet. What WWE needs to and should do is put him on the mid-card and have him prove himself worthy there.

Also, if The Miz needs a main-eventer like John Cena or anyone else so that they can make him look good, then it means he probably wasn’t good to begin with. If he can’t hold up his end of the deal in a match then he shouldn’t be nowhere near main-event caliber talent or main-eventers.

His last couple match's with cena have been stupid.

No they weren’t. Those matches served a purpose. Vince didn’t just decide to throw two guys out there to have a meaningless match. Most matches you see have a purpose. The purpose of the Cena and Miz matches was to give The Miz some credibility as a wrestler and a rub from a main eventer. That’s exactly what happened therefore their matches had a purpose and weren’t “stupid”.

I personally think the miz isn't quite ready for the main event but he will be in a year or so. For now i think he should be winning the a mid-card title like the US Title or something like that.

No, The Miz doesn’t deserve to be winning a mid-card title like the US title yet. First, he has to rake up some wins over mid-carders and lower level talent. In the process of doing that he has to try and prove why he deserves to be holding or challenging for a mid-card title. Until he does that, then he isn’t going to be looked as a credible challenged for any title.

So my question is for all of you is:What do you think the future holds for the miz do you think he will a main eventer or will he just be buried in a couple months thoughts?

Miz has a good future within the WWE. He isn’t going to be buried in a couple of months. If he was then the WWE wouldn’t put him up against guys like John Cena. Instead they’d keep him as far from the main even as possible.

If Miz can get more credibility then I think he will be holding a mid-card title in the future. But first he has to prove that he deserves it and has to show us if he can really go in the ring and have an entertaining match with someone else. Until he does that, I won’t take him as a serious challenger to any title whatsoever.

 

[The People's Tampon]

What can I say except I'm not enamored.

His mic work is above average, but he seems to mostly focus on drawing cheap heel heat, the easiest heat in the universe.

His ring skills strike me as adequate, not spectacular. He's the Marty Jannety of the Dirt Sheet, lets put it that way.

His "look" is fucking stupid.

He's getting owned in the Twitter.

And he was a pain in the ass on the Real World back in the day, nobody liked him then either.

Pass.

 

[Spaceman Spif]

What can I say except I'm not enamored.

His mic work is above average, but he seems to mostly focus on drawing cheap heel heat, the easiest heat in the universe.

His ring skills strike me as adequate, not spectacular. He's the Marty Jannety of the Dirt Sheet, lets put it that way.

His "look" is fucking stupid.

He's getting owned in the Twitter.

And he was a pain in the ass on the Real World back in the day, nobody liked him then either.

Pass.

Wow you are just a bundle of sunshine... I personally liked him in Real World and loved him on the challenges. Yes his mic work is above average, which is better than half of the roster. As for his ring skills, he's more than adequate, I feel he is a very good wrestler who could have a tremondous career as a single star after he gets more exposure, remember his first few years in the WWE, were in a tag team, so he's use to that style, he has to get used to being a singles wrestler who's first matches were against Cena, so yeah he might seem just adequate, but he's really really good. As for his look, it fits his attitude, which is brash, bold, arrogant. So give the guy a break, he'll be just fine in the WWE.

 

[Slyfox's Bitch]

First off, I don't think Cena made The Miz look bad at all in any match of theirs; I thought he made The Miz look alot better than he actually is. Currently,The Miz is a top mid carder at best, and just him feuding with Cena, a top tier main-eventer, makes him look more credible than he is or should be.

Next, I don't think The Miz will be buried by the WWE unless he makes a bad decision that leads to something like a suspension, for example. He has lot's of charisma and his ringwork and storytelling get better each and every time we see him in action, although he does tend to overact sometimes <_<" . I can see him main-eventing major pay-per-views for a shortwhile in about 1-2 years, or so, but I think it'd be a one or two time thing cause he's just not suitable enough as a feature main-eventer in the WWE, in my opinion. He doesn't have the 'it' factor that makes stars. I guess, his future is in the developement of his character, really, as his gimmick tends to be very broad, non-descript and stale, and I can't see it going too far.

 

[tcizthechamp]

while i disagree tht hes being buried, i totally agree tht the miz has lost alot of steem for looking kinda weak in his matches with cena, but on the other hand hes also gained alot of popularity too. i mean i rember miz as the unpopular wrestler teaming up with jomo and lets face it, he wuss the weaker link of the 2. i mean i didnt expect the miz to be even showcased on raw, i tht hed get the tbk treatment. but in a way he kinda reminds me of cena, (the good days when cena wussnt a fake marine who knew 5 moves.), i mean rember how cena used to taunt lesner and lesner wud ignore him and then crush him when they had a match. its kinda like tht but with the miz playing cena. an look how cena turned out. he didnt become the best wrestler ever but he sure is popular as hell. so my two cents r tht creative actually knows wtf their doing with the miz, and im sure hell be very awesome. who knows maybe well even have a jomo and miz fued in the future wen their both M.Eventers abt how miz turned on morrison after he wuss drafted. i wudd pay to c tht.

 

[The People's Tampon]

Wow you are just a bundle of sunshine... I personally liked him in Real World and loved him on the challenges. Yes his mic work is above average, which is better than half of the roster. As for his ring skills, he's more than adequate, I feel he is a very good wrestler who could have a tremondous career as a single star after he gets more exposure, remember his first few years in the WWE, were in a tag team, so he's use to that style, he has to get used to being a singles wrestler who's first matches were against Cena, so yeah he might seem just adequate, but he's really really good. As for his look, it fits his attitude, which is brash, bold, arrogant. So give the guy a break, he'll be just fine in the WWE.

Agree to disagree about the Real World, don't really care enough to argue.

We're in agreement on the mic work, but I still haven't seen him give a promo that has wowed me. He's good at getting cheap heat, sure, but that's pretty easy. I guess I won't blame him for sounding stilted at times because that's a function of the scripted promos.

re: his in-ring work, I see your point, but again, I haven't seen him actually do anything that I've found that impressive.

Last but not least, his look. I'm all for brash, bold, arrogant. I've been called all three. But dude, he looks like a doofus. Granted, this is pro wrestling, a land where sequined tights reign and even the Dead Man is slathered with fake tanner, but he just looks like an idiot. The chick magnet shirts are ok, in a middle school-ish (target audience I suppose) way.

 

[Southwind]

OK I see both sides of the argument here but I'm going to side with the thread creator.

If you were trying to get the Miz to be elevated into a "viable" mid carder or U.S. title contender then mission accomplished. But I don't think Cena needs to be involved to do that it seems to me that Vince woke up one day and said "you know what lets push the Miz put him against Cena". Then the next day he changed his mind and decided to just have Cena bury him down to mid card status.

He was buried as a main event player but at least it was a fast funeral. So maybe nobody will remember a year down the line if Vince decides to give him another push.

 

[HypnotizedHero2010]

the submission part at the end hurts him the most. a normal clean finish would have be that bad. i mean he is a mid-carder losing to the number one contender so its not that big of a deal for him to loose. its just when he talks shit and then taps like a pussy that makes him look bad. if you get beat then you get beat but submitting makes you look really weak

 

[Razor]

k honestly i watched raw tonight and they show the miz come out against cena and i thought i would finally see the miz have a good match against cena without making him look weak.

You mean like the one he had a few weeks ago on Raw? Right after whatever the fuck PPV is before NOC? Or maybe the one he just last Monday. Both were good.

What WWE needs to do is let the miz have a nice 10-15 min match with someone like cena or someone else big so they can make him look good.

He's had two good matches with Cena that made him look great.

His last couple match's with cena have been stupid.

Only one you can argue, really. And that's the one they had at...The Bash.

I personally think the miz isn't quite ready for the main event but he will be in a year or so.

He's ready right now. he's just floating until Cena gets the title from Orton and Cena can start some feuds with new kids. I personally see Cena/Miz, then Cena/Swagger after a few months of Swagger feuding with MVP.

For now i think he should be winning the a mid-card title like the US Title or something like that.

Swagger is getting the US title, silly.

So my question is for all of you is:What do you think the future holds for the miz

Main event, dude. He's already practically there.

do you think he will a main eventer or will he just be buried in a couple months thoughts?

He's not getting buried. TBK and Chavo are taking care of the yearly quota for wrestlers getting buried because they suck ass.

 

[Razor]

Does no one look more than a few days ahead when it comes to these forums? Miz was given that mini-feud with Cena for one reason. When Cena gets that title from Orton at Summerslam Miz has an instant "I'm 7-2!" argument to get a title shot. And guess what, one of the Raw Guest Hosts will either give it to him or make some kind of competition that Miz will actually win. Miz gets his prolonged title feud with Cena, which he will lose, but still. Then, after that, Cena can feud with Swagger to get him built up to solid main-event.

While that is going on Orton can feud with MVP to get him built up for some potential main-event matches. And you know Orton will be getting mixed in with some tag-matches against DX in the up-coming DX/Legacy feud, so MVP can get the rub from teaming with fucking DX.

Seriously. Hold on for 5 minutes. It'll all be okay.

 

[tLight]

I currently want to bury the Miz if he really is dating Maryse in real life.

But for real, this is another classic example of the terrible booking the WWE is letting take place. I don’t know if it’s because they have so many guys, or their focus (as usual) is around Triple H, but what currently is happening is complete garbage. They have so many great Superstars that are not getting used correctly, and it doesn’t seem like their trying to do anything to fix it. Why did the Diva's get another 6 women tag? I understand why they have the Diva's and the need to have them on the show, but tag matches for Diva's when you can’t even have 2 on 2 men’s tag matches on a regular basis? Seriously wtf.

The Miz should have been getting a good push, but having him lose to Cena 3 times in a row does nothing to help build him up. Neither does having Swagger lose to Bourne, or having MVP lose another match via double DQ Count out. Didn’t he lose to Big Show the same way in June?

You bring back Chris Masters, but you still don’t use anyone else correctly? What’s the point, we all know Masters will hit 3 wellness violations within the next 6 months and be right back out the door. There is no way on this earth that he's not using roids, but I guess if Triple H and Batista can get away with it, Masters should be able to as well....Right?

It’s all Horrible Garbage. All the future main eventers are there, but from the looks of it, we won’t see them main eventing for 3-5 years at their current jobbertastic rate.

 

[RatedRKO93]

id have to say the miz is not buried from losing to cena 3 times a row like you gotta give the man a little room to breath here hes going into a fued with the top star in the company just after finishing a great tag team with morrison (witch i might they were a awsome tag team) so no i don't think he was buried at all

 

[crashfellow]

I'd never thought much of miz other then a comedy act (and he was funny) but the cowardly build he was getting on raw was fantastic... shooting two jokes (hornswaggle and golddust) with t-shirt guns, you couldn't not love how it was going.

And suddenly he gets smashes at the paperview, raw, and i'm pretty sure he's been loosing ever since.. the problem is he lost any form of credibility he gained from the build. While he was leading the matches, let's face it in todays 'PG oriented' WWE, the fans wait for the win. That's what's remembered...

The Miz winning... even once.. would have done the world for the upcoming star. But what did it do for Cena? absolutely nothing.

Making sure things are 'good for the business' is fine... but do they really want to be in the position of where their 'new' main eventers (cm punk, john cena, randy orton) become dull as hell as well?

 

[RH23]

I see the Miz being in the mid-card for a while to build up his credibility; he should win the US title and have a decent run with it, I'd say keep the belt on him for at least 3-4 months and after that slightly push him into the main event scene by having him feud with someone in the main event. If he gets over than keep him in the main event.