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Lee
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I fucking loved it.
I liked that the trailer made out Finn to be the Jedi person when actually it was Rey.
The character Domhnall Gleeson as General Hux and Adam Driver as Kylo Ren were fantastic.
Han calling Kylo Ren by the name Ben just set up that entire scene so well.
The character Domhnall Gleeson as General Hux and Adam Driver as Kylo Ren were fantastic.
Han calling Kylo Ren by the name Ben just set up that entire scene so well.
I've read spoilers. I've gone from not caring to being very interested in watching.
Richard Blonoff
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You really should see it. Very good film. The trailers do a good job of throwing you off some of the bigger twists.
I think they put a little too much humor in it for my liking, but at least the humor was funny.
I think they put a little too much humor in it for my liking, but at least the humor was funny.
Once they set up Solo and Ren on that bridge I knew Solo was toast, but I was expecting Ren and Solo to make up, only for the stormtrooper they showed just moments before to take Solo out.
FlexAmerican Dynamite
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Fuck spoiler tags, you were warned in the title.
A little too comedic for my liking, but overall I liked it.
I thought Phasma wasn't given anything of importance to do in the slightest but I'm sure her role will be expanded in the future. Finn was honestly pretty lame to me (not acting wise, just the way the character was written), plus it was weird hearing him attempt to an American accent. Glad he got the job though, hope he improves in the future. Actually come to think of it a lot of people aren't used as much as should be (i.e. Oscar Isaac) but with Han dead Poe should definitely take his spot.
Daisy Ridley was fucking fantastic, and Adam Driver as Kylo Ren did a wonderful job. That said that final fight was absolute bullshit.
I don't think it's a perfect film by any means but it's one hell of a start for the new trilogy. 8/10
A little too comedic for my liking, but overall I liked it.
I thought Phasma wasn't given anything of importance to do in the slightest but I'm sure her role will be expanded in the future. Finn was honestly pretty lame to me (not acting wise, just the way the character was written), plus it was weird hearing him attempt to an American accent. Glad he got the job though, hope he improves in the future. Actually come to think of it a lot of people aren't used as much as should be (i.e. Oscar Isaac) but with Han dead Poe should definitely take his spot.
Daisy Ridley was fucking fantastic, and Adam Driver as Kylo Ren did a wonderful job. That said that final fight was absolute bullshit.
I don't think it's a perfect film by any means but it's one hell of a start for the new trilogy. 8/10
The Butcher
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I really, really liked The Force Awakens. It doesn't reach the heights of Star Wars or The Empire Strikes Back, but it gets as close to that rarefied air as one could reasonably hope. It exceeded my expectations, but I readily admit to setting a low-ish bar. The thought of "what if it sucks?" has been in my head ever since the Episode VII hype train left the station. Well, it doesn't suck, and moreover, it's a very fun movie.
It has all the hallmarks of the series while injecting a big dose of J.J. Abrams' trademark speed and humor. I enjoyed the comedy. When the movie took time to breath it was awfully melancholy, so the laughs offset the body count and family issues. The plentiful callbacks to the original trilogy would've been annoying if they weren't so well embedded and/or lovingly crafted. On the whole it is pretty much a retelling of the original trilogy, but that was the smart (read: safe) thing to do.
The effects are a wonderful blend of practical and digital, but, no matter which, everything has weight. It never feels video game-y. The direction is pure Abrams; fast and tense. I couldn't imagine walking into this movie with it being my first Star Wars film; the callbacks, in-jokes, and quick pace make it a little impenetrable. The 3D is smartly used, and some scenes are simply gorgeous. BB-8 alone in the desert, the low-altitude dogfight, and Kylo vs. Finn and Rey in the snow all spring to mind immediately. Everything was vivid and tangible.
The performances range from okay to great. This material, no matter the scribe, doesn't make it easy on the actors. Ford and Fisher slip right back into their roles, and Daisy Ridley shines. She certainly out emotes her co-stars, and that's a compliment to all. Nobody phones it in. John Boyega's performance is reminiscent of Mark Hamill's in A New Hope. He plays Finn earnestly, wide-eyed, and lost in the sauce, but stilted too at times. I look forward to seeing how both actor and character grow. Adam Driver does Anakin Skywalker better than Anakin Skywalker ever did, and Kylo Ren is wonderful as a result. Domhnall Gleeson chews scenery as General Hux, and Andy Serkis (and his artists) make Snoke mysterious and threatening.
The plot is above average, but it never fully grabbed me on its own. The visuals and borderline frenetic action made up for that, so I was fully invested. The story is a pastiche of the original trilogy, which is a blessing and a curse. There's often a sense of deja vu, but it's in the name of launching a new series and the new veneer makes it seem different. Like I said earlier, the callbacks are plentiful. Even with my admittedly limited knowledge of the former "Expanded Universe," I think I noticed an idea or two picked up from that scrap heap. The new characters are mostly all well-developed, and the story doesn't tie itself in knots. It serves the series well. I didn't notice anything contradictory or totally out of place.
The Force Awakens is a very good movie. It's a love letter to the original trilogy, and it takes everything those films did and does them faster and shinier. That's J.J. Abrams' style, and fortunately it works here. Abrams listened to the fans, collaborated wisely, and learned from the prequel trilogy's mistakes. It all comes together to make a fun, funny, and action-packed movie. When it takes a moment to collect itself and get emotional, it hits those tones well. It perhaps doesn't do that enough, but Abrams erred on the side of caution there. I fully recommend it and will probably go see it again.
It has all the hallmarks of the series while injecting a big dose of J.J. Abrams' trademark speed and humor. I enjoyed the comedy. When the movie took time to breath it was awfully melancholy, so the laughs offset the body count and family issues. The plentiful callbacks to the original trilogy would've been annoying if they weren't so well embedded and/or lovingly crafted. On the whole it is pretty much a retelling of the original trilogy, but that was the smart (read: safe) thing to do.
The effects are a wonderful blend of practical and digital, but, no matter which, everything has weight. It never feels video game-y. The direction is pure Abrams; fast and tense. I couldn't imagine walking into this movie with it being my first Star Wars film; the callbacks, in-jokes, and quick pace make it a little impenetrable. The 3D is smartly used, and some scenes are simply gorgeous. BB-8 alone in the desert, the low-altitude dogfight, and Kylo vs. Finn and Rey in the snow all spring to mind immediately. Everything was vivid and tangible.
The performances range from okay to great. This material, no matter the scribe, doesn't make it easy on the actors. Ford and Fisher slip right back into their roles, and Daisy Ridley shines. She certainly out emotes her co-stars, and that's a compliment to all. Nobody phones it in. John Boyega's performance is reminiscent of Mark Hamill's in A New Hope. He plays Finn earnestly, wide-eyed, and lost in the sauce, but stilted too at times. I look forward to seeing how both actor and character grow. Adam Driver does Anakin Skywalker better than Anakin Skywalker ever did, and Kylo Ren is wonderful as a result. Domhnall Gleeson chews scenery as General Hux, and Andy Serkis (and his artists) make Snoke mysterious and threatening.
The plot is above average, but it never fully grabbed me on its own. The visuals and borderline frenetic action made up for that, so I was fully invested. The story is a pastiche of the original trilogy, which is a blessing and a curse. There's often a sense of deja vu, but it's in the name of launching a new series and the new veneer makes it seem different. Like I said earlier, the callbacks are plentiful. Even with my admittedly limited knowledge of the former "Expanded Universe," I think I noticed an idea or two picked up from that scrap heap. The new characters are mostly all well-developed, and the story doesn't tie itself in knots. It serves the series well. I didn't notice anything contradictory or totally out of place.
The demise of Han Solo was telegraphed/foreshadowed to the point where I was ready to scream, "WELL? GET ON WITH IT!" at Kylo Ren. Rey defeating Ren in a lightsaber duel during the climax raised my eyebrow, but I rationalized that since he was hurt and her force awakened he just got got. Ronda Rousey got thrown off her game by a jab. A blaster wound to the gut and remorse over killing his dad could conceivably make Kylo forget that he can stop lasers with a thought. Anyway, it was gratifying to see a truly despicable bad guy get beat. The reveal of Luke Skywalker made the ending feel like Return of the King. Nice to see him, though. Dunno why he never got the fake skin put back on that hand. It only took a little blast on Jabba's skiff.
The Force Awakens is a very good movie. It's a love letter to the original trilogy, and it takes everything those films did and does them faster and shinier. That's J.J. Abrams' style, and fortunately it works here. Abrams listened to the fans, collaborated wisely, and learned from the prequel trilogy's mistakes. It all comes together to make a fun, funny, and action-packed movie. When it takes a moment to collect itself and get emotional, it hits those tones well. It perhaps doesn't do that enough, but Abrams erred on the side of caution there. I fully recommend it and will probably go see it again.
Lee
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's Supermod!
There was a lot of comedy but no film has made me laugh in a long time as much as C3PO turning up during Leia and Han's get back together.
The fact I was rooting for the new cast really made me appreciate the film.
As I've said already well done trailers for throwing us off, you dicks.
I'm still amazed at how good Driver and Gleeson were.
The fact I was rooting for the new cast really made me appreciate the film.
As I've said already well done trailers for throwing us off, you dicks.
I'm still amazed at how good Driver and Gleeson were.
The Butcher
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I thought the plot was clunky at times and agree on Poe Dameron thoughts (started out well enough, disappearance on Jakku afterwards he was a total meh).
Chewie, Han, Rey and Kylo/Ben were the best of the bunch. Loved the bridge scene (even if its ending was obvious) as well as Rey's discovery of the babykiller sabre. And Luke at the end. That sent mother fucking tingles down my spine. So much set up and hopefully they pay it off.
And I thought it was filled with strong comedy - it didn't take away from the drama.
Chewie, Han, Rey and Kylo/Ben were the best of the bunch. Loved the bridge scene (even if its ending was obvious) as well as Rey's discovery of the babykiller sabre. And Luke at the end. That sent mother fucking tingles down my spine. So much set up and hopefully they pay it off.
And I thought it was filled with strong comedy - it didn't take away from the drama.
I wrote a much longer review, but someone thought it would be funny to put my new kitten on the keyboard while I was typing, so we're getting the condensed version.
The Good.
Kylo Ren, General Hux, Rey, Finn, Poe, acknowledgment of the prequels, Snoke.
The Bad
Captain Phasma (subject to change), General Leia (clearly phoned in). Overly heavy handed dark side/light side symbolism.
The Ugly
Starkiller Base (just no, JJ Abrams clearly doesn't understand physics, yes I'm nitpicking).
In a vast Galaxy, far too many coincidences. Rey finding a droid on a planet, Finn crashing near said droid, Falcon being in the junkyard, Han by chance being near Jakku, Han by chance taking Rey to a woman that happens to have Anakin's lightsaber.
I'd rate it a solid 4 out of 5, probably bump it up to 4.5 on second viewing. Probably number 3 in the series overall, behind Empire and Sith.
The Good.
Kylo Ren, General Hux, Rey, Finn, Poe, acknowledgment of the prequels, Snoke.
The Bad
Captain Phasma (subject to change), General Leia (clearly phoned in). Overly heavy handed dark side/light side symbolism.
The Ugly
Starkiller Base (just no, JJ Abrams clearly doesn't understand physics, yes I'm nitpicking).
In a vast Galaxy, far too many coincidences. Rey finding a droid on a planet, Finn crashing near said droid, Falcon being in the junkyard, Han by chance being near Jakku, Han by chance taking Rey to a woman that happens to have Anakin's lightsaber.
I'd rate it a solid 4 out of 5, probably bump it up to 4.5 on second viewing. Probably number 3 in the series overall, behind Empire and Sith.
Lee
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's Supermod!
With movies I realised I had to suspend the coincidence factor a long time ago.
The thing that annoyed me the most was how often Han got excited at Chewies crossbow. I could understand Finn or even Rey doing it but not Han.
I'm glad they didn't make Finn a Calrissian, though still time for that yet.
The thing that annoyed me the most was how often Han got excited at Chewies crossbow. I could understand Finn or even Rey doing it but not Han.
I'm glad they didn't make Finn a Calrissian, though still time for that yet.
I hope they don't make him a Calrissian. I understand the Skywalkers being all over this thing, but not everyone has to be a relative of someone.
About ready for my second viewing in an hour or so, looking to catch Yoda and Obi-Wan's cameo I missed the first time around.
About ready for my second viewing in an hour or so, looking to catch Yoda and Obi-Wan's cameo I missed the first time around.
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Terrific terrific movie. Great to see all those characters I played with as a child.
And I don't care what anyone says. Kevin Hart was funny.
And I don't care what anyone says. Kevin Hart was funny.
The Butcher
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Finn is a descendant of Captain Panaka.
Lee
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's Supermod!
Apparently it's their voices with Rey's flashback.
Boba and various POD racing flags are hanging when you go into Maz Kanata's place.
The Butcher
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Anyone who thinks it's Luke's lightsaber hasn't done their homework. Luke's was green.
Natural for folks to be curious, though. Last time people saw Anakin's lightsaber it was falling down a shaft with Luke's hand wrapped around it.
Natural for folks to be curious, though. Last time people saw Anakin's lightsaber it was falling down a shaft with Luke's hand wrapped around it.
Upon second viewing, 4.5 out of 5. Fantastic movie with the sense of newness gone. That Han/Ben scene hit me hard this time.
Looking forward to Episode VIII. I highly suspect prequel haters will be upset with that movie of it goes the way I think it will. And that was totally Yoda and Obi-Wan.
Looking forward to Episode VIII. I highly suspect prequel haters will be upset with that movie of it goes the way I think it will. And that was totally Yoda and Obi-Wan.
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I was actively looking for and I am disappointed that there was no Wedge (Snope? I kid, I kid or do I?). But I got a kick out of the Greg Grunberg (aka Greg Grunberg is to JJ Abrams as Ron Howard's brother is to Ron Howard except not his brother) appearance and Asian psychic guy from Lost.
