The Diva's Division Should Be Built Around Rosa

[amazing_blue]

It might sound crazy, but I believe that Rosa Mendes is the one woman who can make the Diva's division relevant, interesting and exciting once again. Now before I say why, let me be clear: under normal circumstances, I would likely never endorse the idea of a valet winning the diva's championshop, but desperate times call for desperate measures. If the WWE want to make the Divas division big again, this is what they need to do.

Rosa is known for helping Epico and Primo get victories by distracting their opponants. She could use those same antics to win a number one contender's battle royal, and then to get the title. If her boys won the tag team titles at the same time, this could be a good angle for the WWE. Eve Torres could join Air Boom and they could have an intergender tag team match with all of the titles on the line. Layla could make her grand comeback and be treated as a hero for finally stripping that title off of the rotten Rosa.

I know that a lot of people here are critical of Rosa's in-ring ability, but she's no worse than Kelly Kelly and Brie Bella who have both held the belt. Rosa has all the tools that she needs: charisma, looks, dancing ability and a good tag team that has her back. Hopefully the WWE can take advantage of her abilities and turn it into something nice.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

I would disagree about her having charisma. She looked good in her interview Friday night but that was in Spanish. Normally she just stands around looking good and gyrating her hips and make distractions. She is a perfect manager, but I'd rather not see her in the ring more than a few bumps here and there

 

[Late Train]

Umm... No. Rosa should just stay at what she is good at, a heel valet who just looks good and distracts her clients' opponents. Rosa should stay right the hell away from In-Ring action.

 

[#hamler]

I know that a lot of people here are critical of Rosa's in-ring ability, but she's no worse than Kelly Kelly and Brie Bella who have both held the belt.

If she's no different, then there's no reason to build the entire division around her. What else can she bring to the table that Kelly Kelly or the Bella's don't? I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with Rosa being pushed because honestly, she's exactly like everyone else, but that's no reason to build an entire division around her. She's mediocre in just about every category imaginable. Her charisma doesn't match Eve's or Layla's, her wrestling abilities do not match Natalya's, her looks don't match Kelly Kelly's; there's nothing special about her.

 

[Oldschoolersrule]

Building an entire product around 1 person is plain stupid, plain stupid. If you look at the mens roster, you have multiple choices, Cena, Punk, Orton (though currently injured), Sheamus, etc.,etc and the list of other performers is huge. If you look at the Diva's roster, its not that long of a list, even if you write it with really big letters on a really small piece of paper. If you want it to succeed then you have to build the product off of all of them.. Not to mention the other variables such as injuries that keep her off TV or the dreaded Future Endevored speech if, when her contract comes due, she and WWE part ways?

 

[Headman]

I didn't really see you make a case for her other than "Why not? Other people suck too." so I'm going to go ahead and disagree. The divas division needs a Mickie James or a Trish Stratus or even a Lita before it will ever matter again. Even with those women the divisions still never got much respect. What's strange is that you chose Rosa. It's like you drew a random diva out of a hat and picked the least talented one.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

I would likely never endorse the idea of a valet winning the diva's championshop

To your credit, she was an actual wrestler before becoming a valet. And Melina sure as hell did it when she was managing MNM, and then again after with just Morrison. It's not unheard of by any stretch of the imagination...

Rosa is known for helping Epico and Primo get victories by distracting their opponants. She could use those same antics to win a number one contender's battle royal, and then to get the title.

I fail to see how her aiding Epico and Primo to victories is going to help her win the Battle Royal. Unless...she distracts the divas, and the boys manhandle them all for her! I'm pretty sure I see what you're saying though...

If her boys won the tag team titles at the same time, this could be a good angle for the WWE. Eve Torres could join Air Boom and they could have an intergender tag team match with all of the titles on the line.

Apparently Eve is entering into something with Zack Ryder. For the love of God I can't see why, but it is what it is. Right now the women's division means nothing to WWE fans. The Tag titles barely mean anything, and I'm not sure any group holding all of them would actually make a dent in that problem. Not to mention, I'd rather see Air Boom hold on to the belts, than Epico and Promo, who have very little discernible charisma, win them.

Layla could make her grand comeback and be treated as a hero for finally stripping that title off of the rotten Rosa.

Or...and I'm just throwing this out there as an option...nobody would care.

Rosa has all the tools that she needs: charisma, looks, dancing ability...

Yeah, check. Check. Check. And che---what the fuck!? I'm sorry, when did "dancing ability" become a pre-req of a good Diva? If that's true, and fans have really begun to think that dancing is a true part of women's wrestling...all hope is indeed lost.

Look, my dispute has nothing to do with you, and everything to do with my lack of interest in Rosa. I actually lost a LOT of respect for her in 2011 when she went on this Twitter rampage against some of the other girls because they didn't "look the part". Because they weren't models or went to Hollywood parties, they weren't "real Divas". There's a small chance that was Twitter-scripted, but it still pissed me off. It's such a slander against real women's wrestling, and I'd love to see Rosa get in the ring for more than three minutes at a time against the likes of Lita, Molly Holly, Victoria, Sara Del Rey, etc.

 

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It might sound crazy, but I believe that Rosa Mendes is the one woman who can make the Diva's division relevant, interesting and exciting once again. Now before I say why, let me be clear: under normal circumstances, I would likely never endorse the idea of a valet winning the diva's championshop, but desperate times call for desperate measures. If the WWE want to make the Divas division big again, this is what they need to do.

Rosa is known for helping Epico and Primo get victories by distracting their opponants. She could use those same antics to win a number one contender's battle royal, and then to get the title. If her boys won the tag team titles at the same time, this could be a good angle for the WWE. Eve Torres could join Air Boom and they could have an intergender tag team match with all of the titles on the line. Layla could make her grand comeback and be treated as a hero for finally stripping that title off of the rotten Rosa.

I know that a lot of people here are critical of Rosa's in-ring ability, but she's no worse than Kelly Kelly and Brie Bella who have both held the belt. Rosa has all the tools that she needs: charisma, looks, dancing ability and a good tag team that has her back. Hopefully the WWE can take advantage of her abilities and turn it into something nice.

I completely agree, but only mostly because it's they have nothing better to do, but i could see it working.I like everything about the storyline and plot, except there's one thing i would change, that would be making her not fued with stupid eve torres,i would personally put her in with natalya or alicia fox (but more of natalya because she would make her look good and because alicia is a botch machine.)but none the less its a great idea and i could see it working.

 

[TheLegendWWEJ]

I agree that the WWE Diva's division is in desperate need of reworking but I am pretty sure Rosa is not the right choice. I've seen her participate in matches and to be honest she has shown very little in ring potential. Great body and stunning looks aside she would not be my choice.

PS...Who is the good tag team support? Last time I saw he she was with Epico and Primo!

 

[ThinkinSmart]

Rosa should never get any where close to the divas championship. There are only three women in WWE who should be in the title situation and thats Pheonix, Neidhart, and Kharma. These three are the only women ive seen in years who are able to put on tolerable matches. Women can have a legit division but the way to that is to stop pushing former models and porn stars who are here because they look hot. WWE had a pretty credible devision when Trish Stratus and Lita and Ivory and many other talented individuals who were able to actually carry a match.. But around the same time WWE got a deal with Playboy they started only using Divas as eye candy and it has ruined the division.

The way to restart this division as a legitimate division is to show that these girls are just as talented as the guys, and right now theres only a hand full of girls who fit that category. Any one else, including Kelly Kelly, should just stay away from the division.

 

[Kliq4Life]

The day she becomes Divas champ is the day that division dies. And you lost me when you said she can "Dance" um all hope is lost for the future I swear.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I think the Diva Division should be disbanded altogether with most of them being released and keep a few around for the purpose of simply being an escort/piece of eye candy for some of the wrestlers.

The Divas are NEVER going to be relevant because Vince McMahon doesn't see them as relevant. Allegedly, Vince has a love-hate relationship with the Divas. The fact that some of them draw consistently solid ratings whenever they're on television, such as the Bella Twins, is the only real reason the Divas even exist. It isn't that there aren't some legitimately talented female wrestlers on the WWE roster, but it's hard to be relevant when the vast majority of them get no promo time, no real storylines and compete in matches that almost never last longer than 3 minutes.

Rosa Mendes is being used EXACTLY the way she should be. She is absolutely awful inside the ring and I'm sorry but she is FAR worse than Kelly Kelly or the Bellas. If Kelly Kelly would learn to run the ropes properly, she'd be pretty solid inside the ring. The Bellas aren't great but they're better than Rosa for no other reason than the fact that they actually have experience and have some coordination. Rosa is slow, awkward and just flat out clumsy inside the ring. Her matches in the past have been atrocious, so using the fact that she is a smoking hot Costa Rican sex pot is hands down the best use of her.

Building the Diva Division around Rosa simply wouldn't work because it would only furtther reinforce the POV of the Divas as being nothing more than models who can't wrestle. As I said earlier, some of them are quite capable wrestlers but the WWE doesn't give reasons to care about them aside from the fact that most of them are drop dead gorgeous and run around the ring wearing extremely skimpy and/or skin tight outfits. It's not really their fault, it's just that they're currently all Vince McMahon wants them to be and I don't see that happening.

If the Diva Division is ever revamped, it's going to be built around someone like Kharma if and when she returns.

 

[Skinsley]

I love this little push that Tamina is getting.... she has not yet proven much talent but has not proven a lack of ither. I get the feeling she can be a great HEEL and her being the Daughter of Superfly Snuka is a much better and more nostalgic relevancy than being the daughter of The ANVIL..... Christ almighty.
If anyone can help the Diva's division it is Tamina.... and not Rosa Mendez. I would smash her back doors in but that is as far as it goes.... I have no interest in her as a wrestler.

 

[amazing_blue]

If she's no different, then there's no reason to build the entire division around her. What else can she bring to the table that Kelly Kelly or the Bella's don't? I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with Rosa being pushed because honestly, she's exactly like everyone else, but that's no reason to build an entire division around her. She's mediocre in just about every category imaginable. Her charisma doesn't match Eve's or Layla's, her wrestling abilities do not match Natalya's, her looks don't match Kelly Kelly's; there's nothing special about her.

I understand where you are coming from here. IMO, the thing Rosa has that Kelly Kelly and Brie don't is a legit reason to be on our screens every week, and that's because she is the valet/manager of Epico & Primo.

Her charisma doesn't match Eve or Layla, and that's why I think the crowd would like it if one of those two took the belt from her. You could have Eve team up with Air Boom, or (my favorite idea) just have Layla come back and chase the title for awhile. Either way, I think Rosa has a purpose because unlike the other divas, she is actually connected to male wrestlers.

To your credit, she was an actual wrestler before becoming a valet. And Melina sure as hell did it when she was managing MNM, and then again after with just Morrison. It's not unheard of by any stretch of the imagination...

Thanks. I had forgotten about Melina's reign while still the manager of MNM.

Yeah, check. Check. Check. And che---what the fuck!? I'm sorry, when did "dancing ability" become a pre-req of a good Diva? If that's true, and fans have really begun to think that dancing is a true part of women's wrestling...all hope is indeed lost.

It's certainly not a pre-req, but it is a plus. It gives her a little something that the other divas don't have. When Beth Phoenix wins, she does her Glamazon pose. When Eve and Kelly Kelly win, they point to the sky. Rosa could dance.

Look, my dispute has nothing to do with you, and everything to do with my lack of interest in Rosa. I actually lost a LOT of respect for her in 2011 when she went on this Twitter rampage against some of the other girls because they didn't "look the part". Because they weren't models or went to Hollywood parties, they weren't "real Divas". There's a small chance that was Twitter-scripted, but it still pissed me off. It's such a slander against real women's wrestling, and I'd love to see Rosa get in the ring for more than three minutes at a time against the likes of Lita, Molly Holly, Victoria, Sara Del Rey, etc.

I remember the Twitter rant, and I didn't approve of it because Rosa isn't exactly Trish Stratus herself. As much as I'd like to see legit female wrestling that is on-par with the male wrestling, do you think that will ever happen as long as Vince is in charge? I sure don't, but I'd like to see something more entertaining than what we are getting right now.

I completely agree, but only mostly because it's they have nothing better to do, but i could see it working.I like everything about the storyline and plot, except there's one thing i would change, that would be making her not fued with stupid eve torres,i would personally put her in with natalya or alicia fox (but more of natalya because she would make her look good and because alicia is a botch machine.)but none the less its a great idea and i could see it working.

Thanks, I'm glad you agree. I think Rosa vs. Natalya would definitely be a better in-ring feud than Rosa vs. Eve Torres, they just need to find a way to make Natalya a face again.

I agree that the WWE Diva's division is in desperate need of reworking but I am pretty sure Rosa is not the right choice. I've seen her participate in matches and to be honest she has shown very little in ring potential. Great body and stunning looks aside she would not be my choice.

PS...Who is the good tag team support? Last time I saw he she was with Epico and Primo!

Yeah, but in today's WWE they are the #2 tag team in the company.

The day she becomes Divas champ is the day that division dies. And you lost me when you said she can "Dance" um all hope is lost for the future I swear.

It can't be more dead than it is right now. The current champion, Beth Phoenix, is hardly on TV anymore and the divas matches we see every week on RAW and SmackDown are 2-minute wastes of times. Hell, this past Friday on SmackDown they were using the diva's dads to try to make it interesting.

Putting the belt on Rosa would mean it is somewhere relevant, because she's with the guys who might be the next tag team champions. And there is nothing wrong with her dancing lol.

 

[y2grae]

I think you need to put down what you are smoking there......

Rosa Mendez (in ANY shape or form that we have seen so far) should NEVER.....EVER be anywhere near a diva belt. she embodies what women's wrestling SHOULDN'T be.

"Putting the belt on Rosa would mean it is somewhere relevant, because she's with the guys who might be the next tag team champions. " - and since when do the wwe give a shit about the tag team championships?

really the only thing to do with diva division as it stands is:

Beth, Natalia, Tamina - have good 3 way feud til Kharma comes back. Let Eve work a bit more and she could actually join them on merit.

Bring back Maryse (wont happen but she is the only smoking hot diva i seen that could go in the ring since Trish)

People dont buy "diva" "wrestling" when most the girls run into the ropes and the ropes dont move. REALISM, i can buy the guys bouncing off ropes because the ropes give and spring back - (ask Lillian)


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Yeah, check. Check. Check. And che---what the fuck!? I'm sorry, when did "dancing ability" become a pre-req of a good Diva? If that's true, and fans have really begun to think that dancing is a true part of women's wrestling...all hope is indeed lost.

It's certainly not a pre-req, but it is a plus. It gives her a little something that the other divas don't have. When Beth Phoenix wins, she does her Glamazon pose. When Eve and Kelly Kelly win, they point to the sky. Rosa could dance."

WTF - Rosa could dance...... get real. just get a download of wwe, create a gif of her shaking her thing, and take it to a dark room til you have one bigger bicep......


your main reason is epico and primo and i believe really they bring less than anything new to the table except as tag team partners, they have single names and both end with "o"

Rosa = BIG NO for wrestling.
Valet - she could be ok but i doubt it. am prepared to eat humble pie if needed

 

[Mustang Sally]

The Divas are NEVER going to be relevant because Vince McMahon doesn't see them as relevant.

As wrestlers, this is unfortunately true. Whether we gals like it or not, the physiological differences between men and women constrain the girls from looking as good as the guys in the ring. We're just not built for it, especially in the upper-body. A man's center of gravity runs across his shoulders while a woman's runs across her hips.....that's the big reason women look so ineffective when they throw a punch. It is what it is.

Yes, there are women who can wrestle effectively; it chagrins me to say that they are the ones who can wrestle in the style that's most like men. Obviously, I point to Beth Phoenix and Natalya; they look like attractive women but can make their matches look real instead of choreographed dance routines. The problem is, there are too few of these gals around to make a division of it.

And Rosa Mendes? As a wrestler, she's the worst of the diva bunch, which is really saying something. But now they've found a role for her, and she looks great in it. She's beautiful, she stands taller than the guys she's a valet for.....and she breaks out in dance gyrations every few minutes. What else does she need?

No, I wouldn't build the diva division around her; she's too inept in the ring. But what she now does, she's doing well. Leave it at that.

 

[Ithil]

A division of anything should never be built around one person.

Isn't that the main problem with Cena?

 

[Iversen]

They could also just work on booking Natalya and Beth right? Instead of just having Beth go over on PPV and look shit the rest of the time book them to destroy everyone then split feud with each other and the winners primed to face Kharma when she returns... It's pretty simple booking but it's what the Divas division needs really and Rosa is no where near in a position to be the face of a division even if it is a pretty awful one.

 

[Daniel]

If someone is a decent valet, it doesn't mean a whole division should be built around them. Good valet =/= great wrestler, to use 'internet talk'.

Seriously, what makes you think that Rosa Mendes should be the focal point of the division? Because she can dance? Someone like Layla can dance, too. Layla also happens to be better on the mic, more charismatic, more over and better in the ring.

Anyone who thinks that the Diva's division should be built around Rosa Mendes clearly isn't aware of a woman by the name of Kharma. Remember her? About seven months ago, she left with a plan to come back in nine months. You do the maths.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

If they are going to actually build a Diva's division and revamp it I'm all for it but I agree with Jack-Hammer that if you keep the Diva's they way they are now you may as well just scrap the whole division because I would rather watch the World Series of Sand Castle building then a diva's match. Most diva's play the same character, Hot Chick.

The Diva's are treated as nothing more than eye candy, something for the guys to look at, if that's the case you may as well designate 10 minutes a week to Kelly Kelly running down a beach in slow motion while wearing a white bikini that is wet.

If they have a diva's division the best thing to do is base it around women who are actually good wrestlers like Kharma, Beth Phoenix and Natalya, you know women who are skilled in the ring and can put on a solid match every week. If they don't go this route then why have a diva's division at all? Cut the majority of them, keep the diva's around that you can use outside of the diva's division and call it a day. Make them valet's, reporters, have them have lingerie pillow fights, I don't care but giving them matches every week is just a waste of television unless you give them time to actually wrestle a match.

 

[Da Solo]

Oh God no!

Rosa Mendes sucks. She has the most forced Spanish accent I've ever heard and has sub-par wrestling skills. The only thing she's done that impressed me recently was her little dances to Primo/Epico's theme.

The only diva's in the division worthy of leading the division or holding the title are Kharma, Beth, Nattie, Eve, Tamina, Layla, and Naomi if they ever bring her up.