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The Destiny of One Alex Shelley

Shelley's Destiny

  • Success

  • Mediocrity

  • Failure


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Uncle Sam

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The first in what may become many threads like this. Three options only: success, mediocrity or failure?

Will Shelley rise to the top, get fired after a sex scandal (or something like that) or forever dawdle along in mediocrity, and become another wasted talent?

Personally, I'm not too sure. There's no denying the incredible talent that this guy has. Fuck "potential", this kid is good enough to eat, and not just in gay way. That being said, I think he also has the good taste to tell management to go fuck themselves as soon as they ask him to wear an octopus costume. So, unless TNA smartens up and stops bitching about their young stars being too concerned what the fans think, failure.
 
I went with success, though it depends on what you consider to be "success" as I can see him having Chris Jericho type success, he'll be the guy that rises from mid-card status to ME level based on solely on all his talent, and mic skills the kid has everything needed to be great, their in no denying it, I can see him a little more than few years down the road challenging for a major title, possibly somewhere other than TNA, will he be a multiple time World Champ, probably not, at least not in a major wrestling company, he'll get one decent world title run and that'll be it, but I can see him being a consistent challenger for the belt, in what ever promotion he is in
 
I do can see him as a Chris Jericho future, the wrestler with the name that can draw, everyone knows who he is, has great mic skills, and pretty good ring skills and perhaps gets that one big break and big title in his life and holds it one time only, but sadly I cant see him being the next Cena, Rock or multi time champ. Even though you never say never in this business!
 
I voted for success. ive had the chance to see him wrestle at a local indy fed in my area twice in singles action and once with sabin in a tag match. and imo he impressed the hell out of me( also the first time i saw him he jumped the guard rail and put a fan in a headlock cuz the fan had spit on him.funniest thing ive seen). ive been big on shelley since i first saw him in tna and i see him as a big star in the near future. hopefully an x-title reign or tag championship reign with sabin. as for the indies i could see him holding a major indy heavyweight title one day.
 
Mediocrity: Alex Shelley is never going to be a World Heavyweight Champion for T.N.A., I'm almost positive about that. Not quite, because I'd like to believe anything (absolutely, anything) is completely possible. However, Alex Shelley just doesn't seem to have everything needed to become a complete Main Eventer.

I think his highest success will be becoming an X-Division Champion, which to be completely honest I see happening at least once before the end of this year. If anything, Shelley is quickly becoming one of the most underrated Superstars to never hold Championship gold in T.N.A., but again, he'll NEVER (likely) be World Heavyweight Champion.

I think he's being used in the best possible way they could use him right now. As a Tag Team wrestler. Him and Chris Saban have found themselves to be one of the current best Tag Teams in T.N.A., and the fact is, Saban achieved great success as a single's wrestler, whereas before their alliance, Shelley wasn't really doing anything note-worthy. He was also a "guy" siding with another guy who was the bigger star, or a name in a group.

So overall, Alex Shelley is Mediocre at best.
 
I've said it for a long time, The WWE is terrible at finding and growing homegrown talent, but they sure as hell are capable of raiding others talents and doing wonders with them. Alex Shelley is going to be one of those guys. The guy has charisma and is solid in the ring, and I think if he made a jump to the E, he would have a fairly successful career in the midcards. TNA and WCW are/were good finders of raw talent, but they don't know what to do with that talent whent hey get them.

Shelley has enough ability, charisma, and the look to get himself pretty far in this business, but if success is depending on number of world titles, then he will be mediocre. I think he'll have a long career, but won't be a world champion.
 
As Sabin's tag team partner in The Motor City Machineguns I can see them rivaling Team 3D, The Hardys, and the Road Warriors as one of the greatest tag teams in history. I donnot think Shelley would do well as a singles star but with Sabin and the right push coupled with their ring mic and charisma skills I can see them going far. I been saying it since the Machineguns formed I want to see them both jump to WWE and face London & Kendrick in a TLC match maybe in a triple threat with the Hardys. Now that would be a 5 star match.
 
As Sabin's tag team partner in The Motor City Machineguns I can see them rivaling Team 3D, The Hardys, and the Road Warriors as one of the greatest tag teams in history.

This statement alone is vastly overrating of Alex Shelley and Chris Saban. They might be a good Tag Team, possibly having the ability to become a "great" Tag Team, but they will never rival the success of Team 3D, or the Road Warriors.

For starters, they won't rival the success of Team 3D, because they're the only Tag Team to hold a the major Championships, in every company. (including the W.C.W. Tag Team Championship, dispite them being W.W.E. owned at the time) NO other team can say that, to my knowledge. Because of that alone, it shows how great Team 3D have been, and are.

Alex Shelley and Chris Saban won't see that type of success as a Tag Team.

I been saying it since the Machineguns formed I want to see them both jump to WWE and face London & Kendrick in a TLC match maybe in a triple threat with the Hardys. Now that would be a 5 star match.

I think if Saban and Shelley took on London and Kendrick in a T.L.C. match, it could be a form of Edge and Christian against the Hardyz, only for this generation instead of the last. It would definately be a match worth watching, but when you compare one present Tag Team, to one past one.. you'll never come out without ruining the present one, just because nothing can duplicate the first.
 
I voted mediocre. Alex Shelley can cut "OK" promos but he lacks a good body he just looks like a high school jock. There is absolutely nothing special about Alex Shelley, my friend who rarely watch TNA didn't know which one in MCMG who was Alex of Chris.

Alex Shelley desperatly need a gimmic or much stronger character or he will for ever just be a internet favorite
 
I have to go with mediocrity, Yes its been said he has all the skills, great mic skills, and an interesting look. But when you look at a world champion, assuming big promotion, and not the indy scene, you want someone big, and who you think the fans could actually get behind to be champion. For me Rey mysterio had one of the worst runs as champions, my opinion because he did not have the look of one. Tell me would you believe it if shelley won someone like say big show on an actual show, without help of any kind. To me one of the things it comes down to is size, and im sorry to alex shelly, but youll hear this a million times. Size Does Matter.
 
FYI Alex Shelly is the same height and close to the same weight as Chris Jericho Chris Benoit, so he can overcome the size issue. Obviously he doesn't have the skill of Benoit or the presence of Jericho but that's something that he/TNA could work on.

He has a good like, excellent skills and decent mic skills. He needs to be built up over time. I'm talking years not months. If that's done correctly he can be a star.
 
FYI Alex Shelly is the same height and close to the same weight as Chris Jericho Chris Benoit, so he can overcome the size issue. Obviously he doesn't have the skill of Benoit or the presence of Jericho but that's something that he/TNA could work on.

He has a good like, excellent skills and decent mic skills. He needs to be built up over time. I'm talking years not months. If that's done correctly he can be a star.

While your right hes the same height, and all that, when you look at him, your looking at a cruiserweight, he simply does not have the muscles which is a major part he would need to actually look credible. If you want to compare Jericho and benoit to him based off skills go for it, but the fact is those 2 are bulked, and if Jericho ever debulked then he would lose alot of credibility, in ever having the chance to become a world champ. Shelley right now either needs to pump more iron, or take steroids( Something i Dont condone) All he will ever be until that time is a world class indy wrestler, and a mid card in the big promotions.
 
Well anyone who says Alex Shelley will win the TNA/WWE title is kidding themselves, but there is nothing wrong with that, some of the all-time greats never won the main belt. I think he will be remembered in wrestling history but probably won't ever get a main event match unless it's like a 6-man tag or something, the Guns could potentially team with Joe against the Alliance but beyond that, nah.

I feel kind of sorry for him because while MCMG gives him a really good chance to spotlight his ability, it also holds him back, these guys wont hold the belts any time soon in my opinion and as long as they are together they cant have singles success, so we will have to see the break-up of a limitless-potential-possessing team if we want to see him wear the X-Division title.

That could work for him though, Sabin wins the title, they continue to tag, jealousy begins to build and if they handle both of them well until then and build them up right, then a Shelly V Sabin feud might draw money. But if that does happen i pray to god they re-unite at a later date.
 
I voted for success because I am a big fan of Shelley But I will agree he needs to add 20 pounds of muslce or bulk to his frame if he wants to be taken serious. I saw him live at a indy show and he looked like 18 year school boy not a wrestler.
 
I've always been a fan of Alex Shelley since his days in Paparazzi Productions...he has all the skills necessary to make it big as a star in the future of the business: great ring skills, decent promo skills, and a unique presence and charisma that fans can relate to...however, I voted mediocrity.

While many fans love Shelley and would like for him to succeed and vecome a World Champion one day, I don't think it will happen. He can be a great role player and a good mechanic, but I can't see him being credible holding a world title belt. If he does get a run with the main strap, it will be Guerrero, Benoit, or Jericho-like...a couple of months or so.

Plus, I think he needs to get his attitude in check. While there is no doubt he is a skilled competitor, he needs not let that go to his head. I remember an article about him saying that Pro Wrestling Guerrilla was his favorite place to work, while he was under contract with TNA. This did not sit well with management. Plus, lately, he and Sabin have rubbed people the wrong way...according to the main site, they have been too concerned with the IWC and its opinions, have turned down or changed finishes to matches, and refused to blade, forcing Jay Lethal to do so...gimme a break...they have limitless potential, but they are nowhere near being the next Rockers or other comparable tag teams....

I think Shelley needs a little more time to prove himself and find his niche in wrestling...that way he is not stuck in the X-Division forever. Perhaps if he and Chris Sabin were to get a nice run with the Tag Titles, and Shelley improves his attitude, he may prove himself more than mediocre...
 
i haven't actually seen much of alex shelley in the ring but i will confess i thought he was good. good enough to hold a mid-card title and maybe one day try for the main belt, but i don't think he'll get there.

mid-carder for life so it's gotta be mediocre
 
It all depends on what your definition of success in wrestling is. I think all around Alex Shelley is one of the best. While he probably won't be a "world" champion anywhere but on the indy scene, I don't think there is anything wrong with that esp.when TNA and WWE are both all about gimmicks and not wrestling. I think he will one of the true great inovators in wrestling like Sabu, RVD and AJ Styles.

I think there are a few main things holding Alex back and it is not his physique. First, he needs to step up and take his spot. He "quit" ROH when his popularity was really skyrocketing and he is letting himself get burried in TNA. He has been around for a while now. Maybe he is ok with being a jobber and just collecting a paycheck but that sure won't lead him to being considered one of the greats. Second, and I am going to sound like a real mark, but they guy is a total douche bag. He is not likable backstage or in public (many indy fans will tell you this.) His immaturity and abrasive personality won't help him get a push thats for sure.

my vote: mediocre
 
Most everyone here is right. Shelly is good but looks a bit small. He does need to bulk up a little. He doesn't need to carry the title to be great, look at Ted Dibiase, Jake the Snake and others. I think he could be a superstar draw. He just needs to get a little more comfortable and be booked into good feuds. Also, I think he would excel as a heel more than a face.
 
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Your all rite in a way. I think shelly can make it too the top, but he wont because, like most of you said, he is an asshole. Guys like shelton benjamen, elijah burke, Kaz, Robert Roode, and Eric Young all have chances to make it. I beleive the only one out of them that wont make it is Eric young because of his current gimmick, but he has teh talent, and the wrestling look for it. Back to shelly, i think he will need to have a heel turn and get over with the crowd. He needs to stay around for years to become main event caliber. Id like to see it happen, i just dont thik it will.
 
I'm going to have to split my vote here and go two ways. Current and Future.

(Current)Mediocrity- Seeing as how Alex Shelley shook two of the worst gimmicks that I have ever seen in the "Baby Bear" to Goldie Locks and Paparazzi Productions( although his stint with Kevin Nash was pretty funny), Shelly has come a long way. Now do I think that he will be paying off any dividends in the next bit of time that goes by? No. I don't think that the current booking practices will add up much for him. Maybe a tag team run, but not a huge one or a strong one. I mean look at what they have done with Kaz after that excellent match that he put on against Kurt Angle.

(Future)Success- I think that with TNA moving toward showcasing the X-Cup again, Shelly will get an excellent chance to showcase his talent as an all around wrestler. he has learned to high fly very well, even though he was crappy when he first came into TNA, and has become more crisp. If TNA isn't taking note of this to upgrade Shelly to the main even status, then I guarantee you that WWE is looking at him as possbily being a Jericho or Mysterio type underdog that can be pushed in ECW or on Smackdown. So in the future, the sky is the limit for this young superstar.

And that's my take on Mr. Shelly. I posted instead of voting because, as you see, I have two seperate views on the young man.
 
I'm going to have to split my vote here and go two ways. Current and Future.

(Current)Mediocrity- Seeing as how Alex Shelley shook two of the worst gimmicks that I have ever seen in the "Baby Bear" to Goldie Locks and Paparazzi Productions( although his stint with Kevin Nash was pretty funny), Shelly has come a long way. Now do I think that he will be paying off any dividends in the next bit of time that goes by? No. I don't think that the current booking practices will add up much for him. Maybe a tag team run, but not a huge one or a strong one. I mean look at what they have done with Kaz after that excellent match that he put on against Kurt Angle.

The Paparazzi Productions was an alright gimmick in my book. Thats about the time TNA noticed that they had a star in Shelley. I personally think that TNA should push the Guns while there still hot. They can't drop the ball on these two.

As for Kaz's "mishandling", that has to do with the fact that he is a bad wrestler. Shelley is far superior and more exciting than Kaz. Kaz just takes big bumps, he's TNA's version of Jeff Hardy, without the paint.

(Future)Success- I think that with TNA moving toward showcasing the X-Cup again, Shelly will get an excellent chance to showcase his talent as an all around wrestler. he has learned to high fly very well, even though he was crappy when he first came into TNA, and has become more crisp. If TNA isn't taking note of this to upgrade Shelly to the main even status, then I guarantee you that WWE is looking at him as possbily being a Jericho or Mysterio type underdog that can be pushed in ECW or on Smackdown. So in the future, the sky is the limit for this young superstar.

And that's my take on Mr. Shelly. I posted instead of voting because, as you see, I have two seperate views on the young man.

I believe TNA has something in store for him. They are currently pushing Black Machismo to the moon due to his merch sales and the MCMG's T-shirts were one of TNA's biggest sellers in late 2007. They will more than likely take notice.

There is no way Shelley would become anything in WWE, he's just too small. If he signed with them he would more than likely end up getting squashed and/or thrown in a random tag team.
 
I voted mediocre. Alex Shelley can cut "OK" promos but he lacks a good body he just looks like a high school jock. There is absolutely nothing special about Alex Shelley, my friend who rarely watch TNA didn't know which one in MCMG who was Alex of Chris.

Alex Shelley desperatly need a gimmic or much stronger character or he will for ever just be a internet favorite

Aw c'mon. How is someone that rarely watches TNA not being able to tell two different guys apart proof that Alex Shelley is average? Whenever I don't follow a tag team, I can hardly ever tell them apart. When I first started watching TNA, I didn't have a clue which one was James Storm and which one was Chris Harris. Hell, I couldn't tell Edge and Christian apart for a little while. This coming from someone who said Shelley would fail. Then again, it doesn't change the fact that I love the guy. I was told that I had a man crush on him for my first post.

And he lacks a good body? What sort of argument is that. Chris Benoit's upper half dwarfed his legs, Joe's chubby and Kurt Angle looked like he just might keel over for a little while. If anything, Alex Shelley's body is perfect. He's not out of shape but he's not the sort of guy you look at and think "C'mon, how do you not take steroids." This is going to sound incredibly gay, but I genuinely thinks he promotes a good body image, something wrestlers rarely do. They're usually either hulked up beyond belief or fat bastards.

As for his microphone skills, I personally feel that Shelley is fantastic in character. I don't get why people love Christian's promos that are so forced and have a noticeable rhythm to them (so much so you can clap along to them, seriously) and dislike Shelley's promos which seem so natural and can genuinely be funny. Not to mention his original and very much entertaining ring style.

Again, from someone who thinks he'll end up as a failure. I didn't say it wouldn't be a fucking shame.

This past iMPACT! is a perfect example of why Alex Shelley will never make it big. The kid has too much integrity. He disagrees with creative for whatever reason, him and his mate get cleanly beat by Blackdust and his gimp. Are you fucking kidding me!?

gg inferno said:
me, Kurt and joe found it quite funny actually

Glenn please, we're trying to have a conversation here. To make things worse, Super Eric rushes down to the ring and beats them both single-handed. Three words TNA: Go, yourselves and fuck. Not necessarily in that order. It's not like these were overhyped indy guys in your company, these are bona fide merch and seat sellers. Fucking idiots.
 
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