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The concept of MITB.

Ok first off, why in the hell would you even think about cashing in the MITB on a lesser title? That's like saying you win Royal Rumble only to give up your spot for the raw main event before mania.

Cena gave up Mania main event for No way out does that count?

Mentioning the Royal Rumble though is it any coincidence that since the creation of M.I.T.B the Royal Rumble has become more and more meaningless? The rumble used to be used to push new or returning starts into the main event and the winner would always win the title at the main event of Mania- a tradition that continued even with the introduction of 2 world titles. Not any more though. It seems that M.I.T.B is being used to push the next big star.
 
i think them cashing it in wenever they want iz a very good concept. if the money in the bank winner came out and said "hey champion im gonna cash my chance in next week" den he is givin the champ a chance to prepare which isnt always a good thinq.plus it seems like heels are best at doing it,the only face who did the cash in unexpected was cm punk and the second time he did it he turned heel.
 
The Money in the Bank has been (For the Most Part) A way to get a new heel character in the title picture, or to make a face go heel. Only times I can recall a face winning it and not going heel afterwards were RVD and CM Punk's 1st win. Other then that, A fresh heel won it, or it was a stepping stone to turn someone heel.

Edge - A fresh heel going into main event status

RVD - One of the rare exceptions and only one to cash it in fairly

Mr. Kennedy - Was suppose to be a new star into main event status, until he got hurt and had to take time off by dropping the briefcase to Edge.

CM Punk 1 - Again a rare exception, but gave Edge a taste of his own medicine by cashing it in the way Edge invented it.

CM Punk 2 - While CM Punk was face at the time, this would set up a Punk heel turn, along with a big fued between Punk and Jeff Hardy for the World Heavyweight Title.

Jack Swagger - Again, another heel to bring into the main event scene. Very dissapointed the way his run in the title picture turned out.

Kane - Much like CM Punk's 2nd win, it was to head into a heel turn and to face Undertaker for the title.

Miz - See Edge and Swagger.

My issue is most of these are pretty much the same. They aren't spicing things up anymore. They haven't had anyone lose the title match, and I wonder why they've only had one fair cash in. As long as Money in the Bank is to help young stars, I'm all for it - But I also wouldn't mind them spicing it up a bit.
 
I like it the way it is. it was supposed to be like the hardcore title, where they could cash it in whenever they wanted where ever they wanted. the only thing I would like is for a small wrestler to win and have them cash in on a champion that is huge while the wrestler is disposed of. that way they could fued and have the small champion lose until the belt gets put on the line.
 
I don't mind it at all. I think it's a great concept, and while it may be getting slightly predictable, it's not like it's a bad thing. I'm pretty sure most people were marking out when Miz went to cash in on Orton this past Monday. I know I didn't expect it. It's really a way to elevate young heels to the main event in a heelish manner without making it obvious at all. I didn't think Miz would cash in on Monday, and I didn't expect it any other time that it happened. The matches are great, and the cash-ins are as well. So the concept should keep going, it's fun and it is good for shock value and it is good for careers.
 
Sorry but I didn't read all the other replies, apologies if this general sentiment has already been expressed,but it's what would legitimately happen.

As a heel, when someone gives you an opportunity to win the championship, you take your shot when you're the strongest and the other guy is the weakest. End of. Sure we the fans never knew exactly when it was going to happen but we knew it's going down that way (the real question was always: Would Miz be the first to make a losing bid?). It just wouldn't make much sense otherwise. It really is a heel's prize. Heels being heels is definitely predictable but then again what else would they be?

Having said that, most people are so morally ambiguous today that the general audience doesn't see anything wrong with faces doing the same thing when they cash in on heels—a la Punk taking advantage of a semi-conscious Edge after a thunderous Batista beat down on the Rated 'R' Superstar—as it's just the heel getting what's coming to them, so it becomes even more acceptable.
 
One thing that we have yet to see that I think would be fairly interesting would be for a heel to have the briefcase and cash it in on another heel to initiate a face turn. Yes, it's a heel-ish tactic and resulted in Punk and Kane (call him a tweener if you must) turning heel as a result when cashing it in on another face, but I don't see why the opposite couldn't happen. It's something that was teased with The Miz when he twice attempted to cash in on Sheamus. People were going nuts and you can assume that if it resulted in a Miz/Sheamus feud, people would be cheering for Miz. As I said in my previous post, people were chanting "We want Miz" when Sheamus was laid out at Summer Slam. If they ever had any plans of Sheamus being the victim (which I doubt), I'd assume that they reconsidered based on the reaction. I am definitely curious though, as to whether or not they took note of that and have such a plan devised for the next one.
 
I think that while the concept of heel cashing in on a face when the face is weak has gotten a bit stale, it is something that still works. The thing that keeps the fans interested in a MITB cash-in is 'when' the guy will cash in not how because everyone knows 'how'. Hence there is no need to change something that already works.

Still I'm open to using the MITB cas-in in different ways especially nowadays with 3 MITB briefcases being won in a year.( Two in the MITB PPV and one at Wrestlemania). I would like to see an MITB cash in trigger a face turn for a change. Picture this. The heel runs in when a face is weakened and stares at him. Everyone is expecting that he will cash in on his MITB title shot. That is when the heel offers his hand to the face and helps him get up and tells him " See you at [that particular month's PPV]."

Then the guy loses a haard fought match against the champion and the champion raises his hand before going out. It will put the guy over huge.
 
I think it's ok. What they need to stop doing is having people cash in so soon. Look at Edge's first cash-in and Miz's. They took time and got to simmer. Swagger did it almost immediately and wasn't ready. Kane was for the most part but he has a long resume already. Punk did it about three months after winning and did ok with it. The longer they hold it for the more it seems unlikely they'll do it and the bigger the surprise is. The concept works and what would you expect a heel to do? Cash in against a champion at his best? Why would you do that? The concept still works.
 
First of all, people claiming that they knew all along that Miz was going to cash in need to stop acting so omniscient. Just because Orton says "Barrett will not be leaving as champion" or Cole says "We could have a new champion here tonight" doesn't mean that someone else other than Barrett is. How many times has an announcer hyped a potential title change or a current champion stated that his challenger will not be the one leaving with the belt? If that's part of your logic, go watch more wrestling. That means jack shit in terms of "making it obvious" that Miz was going to cash in.

No, but passing up a chance to become King Of The Ring by saying he had something minor certainly helped a lot. I don't really care that it could've been seen coming. I care more about the fact that doesn't help the newly crowned champion establish himself. He looks weak from the get-go because he challenged a weak champion. It worked with Edge because that would move on to be his gimmick. It didn't work for CM Punk the first time and the second one led to his heel turn. Which was good. Jack Swagger on the other hand, looked abysmal and the fact that he beat a weak Jericho made it even worse. The way I see it, WWE should shake it up for once and actually have the MITB holder challenge formally. RVD did it and it went over well. Why not do it again and stop making the unpredictable look so predictable?
 
I agree with the idea of it being forgettable runs. I mean Punk 1st reign and swagger's are the most two forgettable runs in the last five years for me as I can't remember anything significant in it.
 
I agree with the idea of it being forgettable runs. I mean Punk 1st reign and swagger's are the most two forgettable runs in the last five years for me as I can't remember anything significant in it.

But surely that has more to do with how they are handled after winning the title rather than anything to do with MITB.

I think the problem with MITB, is 3 is too many in a year. Even though Kane cash it in so quickly (Swagger rather quick aswell).

I like it just at Wrestlemania. It's a special match to match the special event. Once the winner has the briefcase, they can start to build momentum & has that anything can happen vibe.

A heel can win by being a chickenshit, I remember laughing so much when CM Punk cashed in on Hardy & ran round the ring celebrating sarcastically. Alternately a face can play an underdog well, or cash it nobely like RVD.
 

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