The Attitude Era Fans Vs. The PG Fans

[CM Steel]

If your between the ages of 23-35, then you remember and were apart of the epic attitude era in the WWF/E. We were in high school and some of us were in college around this time. But now were older and have children of are own who watches the WWE in the now PG era of the company. While the product has been watered down for the targeted audience of the WWE universe. What will that leave for us WWE fans from the attitude era?

WWE chairman Vince McMahon may be targeting the viewers from the ages of 7-16. But Vince McMahon knows in his great wisdom that it is the older fans who pays the money to see a WWE live event, as well as for his WWE merchandise, pay per views, ECT. Are the kids paying any of this? No! Unless a kid is saving his or her milk money or something?

Remember the RAW "Old School" show from last November? That show was for the older fans of the WWE from back from the WWF days. Thus missing the targeted PG fans of the WWE universe. With the returns of the Rock, Trish Stratus, and Stone Cold Steve Austin this year.

Should Vince McMahon take a real look at his targeted audience in stock?

 

[poppycock]

I'm a WWE fan far and above any fan of a certain Era. I may have my favourite time periods but at the end of the day I have been watching WWE for almost 18 years and aslong as the product is entertaining I don't mind who it is targeted at. I think there will always be something for everybody and aslong as that remains I will be happy. I loved the Attitude Era but I like watching WWE with my younger cousin who I would not want to be exposed to some of the stuff that happend during that time period. I would be all for some sort of warzone type deal being bought back for the later part of Raw but really as I said I just want some good entertainment and times have to change or things get stale. I am sure a time will come when things get much more edgy again but right now things are ok. Definitely better than a couple of years ago anyway.

 

[bloewaters]

In my honest opinion this topic is really getting old. The pg era is what it is. the attitude era is what it was. Its as simple as this, and I've said this MANY times before. This business moves in circles. it went: PG family friendly, Then got edgier and edgier as the "target audience turned into teenagers, then it turned into the attitude era. Just as we did. Then, when we grew up, and had kids, it was time to make it family friendly again. its been going on for about... what six-eight years? and guess what, its getting edgier again. If you want the attitude era, watch youtube. until then, sit back and watch. Complaining that there is no boobies, blood, and not enough swearing isnt going to get you anywhere. If you want all that, you arent a wrestling fan. you want to see blood? and alot of violence? watch UFC. you want to see people fake fight, and cut themselves open for blood? watch tna. you wanna see boobs? watch porn. you want to hear lots of swearing? watch a martin scorsese film. seriously. Its wrestling. thats what its about. its about pleasing your audience. If you dont like it... then dont watch it. fuck.


And by the way, you are right in the fact that the kids arent buying it. but guess what, neither were we when we where 13-19ish during the attitude era. our parents were. just like the parents by the shit for their kids now! he IS taking stock in his target audience.

 

[Jfrankart81]

Well Its not a matter of going from pG to Attitude back to PG. the problem lies in how Lazy WWE has been the last 8 years, Both Creative and Vince McMahon. At least in the 80's and early to mid 90's it was still good build ups to storys, The titles meant something and you had Classic Matches: Hogan-Andre, Hogan-Savage, Warrior-Hogan, Savage-Steamboat Bret-Perfect, Bret-Bulldog etc.....The attitude era, as raunchy as it was still had good build up and the PPVs were always great! This day and age, I compare wrestling to the Music industry...as in, WTF happened to Musical Talent? The industry,MTV got lazy. They sign anyone to a contract, don't believe me? Lil' Wayne, Justin Bieber, The Jonas Brothers....Ugh enough!!!! Todays WWE is lazy, The titles don't mean anything anymore, (even though it looks like Rhodes is trying to change that) And we have had Mysterio and Cena Shoved down our throats for the last 7 years that its sickening to watch half the time! now here is where you PG marks come in and say: Don't watch it then! Well sorry, but i have watched Wrestling, Like alote of others, for over 24 years!!! I was 5 years old when i became a fan! I'm loyal and the reason I watch is because guys like triple H, Taker, And from time to time Austin and rock! also I like guys Like CM punk and Dolph Ziggler, Sheamus, Cody Rhodes, guys that can work their asses off every match. Its just a shame that the WWE is poorly booked, and they have no clue whats going on most the time. I miss the attitude era for the simple fact that every monday night, you would switch to Raw and see Taker sacrificing someone to the ministry, austin whoopin ass, the rock electrifying, then switch to WCW and see the nWo battle sting, DDP and goldberg. WHAT A TIME TO BE A WRESTLING FAN! I guess us ol' timers and Anti-PG era fans want to be able to be that excited to watch raw again! to not be able to wait another week till monday night, cuz its so fun and unpredictable. With the deaths of benoit and Eddie, test,Kanyon, Bam Bam, bad news Allen, Sherri, Mr. Perfect, Bulldog,bossman,Hawk all in the last 7-8 years, Not to mention Owen hart, Wrestling just felt different going into the early 2000's. Then you had an uplift from about 2002 to early 2004 and then.....the CENA ERA!!!!! wel its been almost 8 years of the cena era and its boring,predictable, guys are not getting over and unless your cena,orton, or mysterio, forget getting a title run over 1 month! hopefully this thing with cm punk, miz,truth,Johnny Ace,Triple H,Nash etc....hopefully that storyline will boost WWE back where it should be!

 

[CM Steel]

In my honest opinion this topic is really getting old. The pg era is what it is. the attitude era is what it was. Its as simple as this, and I've said this MANY times before. This business moves in circles. it went: PG family friendly, Then got edgier and edgier as the "target audience turned into teenagers, then it turned into the attitude era. Just as we did. Then, when we grew up, and had kids, it was time to make it family friendly again. its been going on for about... what six-eight years? and guess what, its getting edgier again. If you want the attitude era, watch youtube. until then, sit back and watch. Complaining that there is no boobies, blood, and not enough swearing isnt going to get you anywhere. If you want all that, you arent a wrestling fan. you want to see blood? and alot of violence? watch UFC. you want to see people fake fight, and cut themselves open for blood? watch tna. you wanna see boobs? watch porn. you want to hear lots of swearing? watch a martin scorsese film. seriously. Its wrestling. thats what its about. its about pleasing your audience. If you dont like it... then dont watch it. fuck.


And by the way, you are right in the fact that the kids arent buying it. but guess what, neither were we when we where 13-19ish during the attitude era. our parents were. just like the parents by the shit for their kids now! he IS taking stock in his target audience.

Whoa! You have alot of anger inside you I see. But the point that I was trying to make is. That the WWE does repeats it's self in history. We can go at this subject all night. I'm not saying that the attitude era should return. I'm saying that the federation years (PG era) should be put to bed, much like how your saying that the attitude era needs to go away.

It's really silly how Vince McMahon is having a new generation of superstars fill the boots of legends & icons.

John Cena-Hulk Hogan

Randy Orton-Jake "The Snake" Roberts

Kofi Kingston-The Junkyard Dog

The Miz-Rowdy Roddy Piper

The Big Show-Andre the Giant

...I can do this all night if I wanted too. But you get the idea.


Vince should just let the superstars be them for that matter. And your right, this is WRESTLING. An industry where viewers intelligence gets insulted on a weekly basis. Stevie Wonder can see what's going on here for crying out loud! Things are going backwards right now in the WWE, going back to Cody Rhodes bring back the classic WWF IC championship. The PG fans don't know anything about that!

So if Vince McMahon wants the mainstrem media to take his company seriously, he has to keep up with the times. Where will you be when the Muppets come to RAW on Holloween bloewaters?

 

[redeffect3]

First I'd like to say that you dont necessarily need to be 23 or older. I am 19 and I clearly remember watch Austin win King of the Ring and the Montreal Screwjob and many other classic Attitude moments.

With that said, you make it seem as if the attitude era fans dislike the current product. Yes, it was a lot more on the edge of your seat back then but the product is still good now in my opinion. Youre still watching for a reason (and don't tell me that reason is because you're waiting for the attitude era part 2).

Until this past week when CM Punk beat Cena in merch. sales, John Cena was #1 in merchandise. With the way I hear the crowd, I doubt the adults are the ones buying all that Cena stuff. Vince is doing what he believes is the most beneficial for business right now. If he felt being TV-14 would be the most successful thing, he would do it. Vince is not stupid at all, he is a mastermind.

Raw Old School was great your right. But it did not miss the targeted PG fans because although it was an old set and stuff like that, there were still the superstars of today and the storylines of today. Did I see attitude era in that episode of Raw? I don't think so. I saw early 1990's.

People need to accept that the Attitude Era is dead and never coming back. That Era is hyped up too much (but that is a different thread). Every Era has its good and bads. This Era has just begun in my opinion. So get used to seeing TV-PG every time you tune into a WWE program

 

[Jfrankart81]

I'd like to see a thread started on the overhyped Attitude era so to speak! please, that era of wrestling was getting 8.0 ratings every week damn near! both WWF and WCW were the most watched programing on tv every monday night! now WWE is lucky to pull off a 3.9 on raw! Hell a 3.9-4.0 is considered High to them now!

 

[mikde_]

urgh! urgh! urgh! another fuckin Attitude era thread!

The first few were cool, nice to look back on it. The next 750 were bareable because it was a big period so it's understandable but i think this one has finally took it's toll on me and sent me over the edge! Can people not think of anything original for a thread anymore!

Look it's 2011! AE ended over 10 years ago! move on people and if you dont like the current product just stop watching, simple as that! Like JR said "You dont need blood to produce a great wrestling show and do i think the TV-14 format should return? deffinatly not and id always advise against it.".... Yep this is coming from a guy who knows more about wrestling than you know about yourself so i will take his word as gold. The days of "Garbage Wrestling" are long gone!

Oh and mods...could you please make a sticky thread for this topic please because it seems we have reached the point where every other thread is a AE based thread!

Am i the only one getting sick of commenting on basically the same thread over and over again?

wait and wtf! mack_swagger....did you just compare Kofi Kingston to the Junkyard Dog o_0

 

[kurtryan]

If they really want to replicate the Attitude Era here are the things that they should do:

1. End the Brand Split - I think ending the split would give them a deeper roster and give us more entertaining storylines.

2. Unify the WWE Title and the Heavyweight Title and use the US Title as the third singles title behind the Unified Championship and IC-Title.

 

[The A]

I think people blow the whole pg thing out of proportion. I think the reason why the attitude era was so big was because of the stars they had. There were plenty of stories that I liked as a kid (I'm 21 btw) but looking back on them some were pretty tacky. There were lots of cheap pops and heat because you could curse more back then and that always gets a crowd hype. Personally I think pg raises the standards as far as writing goes. I'm one of the few who is glad that there is no blood because I hate blading it is tasteless and pointless. Maybe it fits once in a while but not all the time.

As for the live crowd it was for sure better in the attitude era. People these days think they are cool because they know its fake so they like to do things to make the wrestlers feel awkward.. With the net now most of the crowd knows what to expect. I think they are going in the right direction to make it big again. The channel means more exposure, punk is young and he's in line to be the next huge star, shamus is gettin over, etc. I think we'll see a repeat of what happened before wrestling peaks, then drops, then peaks again.... I personally don't think it makes a big difference if its pg or not, besides the fact that pg is probably better for business

 

[Danny84]

I loved the attitude era compared to now i mean the hell in a cell proved a point i mean back in the day if henry done that to orton raming him against the cell and rubbing his face up against it he would of split him open if u r gonna have the same matches as back then u need the blood and put the age back up as like u said its the addults who pay to watch it and pay for the kids to watch it and most of the fans r 20 years plus BUT I COULD B WRONG AS IM FROM ENGLAND AND NEVER BEEN TO A LIVE SHOW

 

[Wrestlingfan100]

I'm not a PG fan, I'm not a tv14 fan. I watch for wrestling. I started watching around the ruthless agression era, so you forgot that. I watch WWE, TNA{ for the X division}, ROH, Chikara, NOAH, NWS{ I live near it}, NJPW, Dragon Gate USA and AAA. I fill my world with pro wrestling and sometimes even match japanese MMA. I'm fine with storylines and I do enjoy a good promo segment but my interest is in ring stuff, I have over 120 favorite performers in the industry. I think I'd probably be a great play-by-play commentators, I've never been wrong about predicting if a pin will win a match or not{ on WWE, TNA's X division PPV stopped this streak}. My top favorite performers are and in no particular order, The Miz, HBK, Chris Jericho, Evan Bourne, Kota Ibushi, Mike Quackenbush. Wrestlers I dislike{ for in ring ability} are Jeff Hardy, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston{ slowly impressing me}and David Otunga. I am NOT watching and hoping for new exciting angles and lines that aren't to PC so to speak. I'm 17, I've heard it all, I use it all on a daily basis hearing it on TV does NOTHING for me but I am a big
mark for chain wrestling-catch-hand and epic sequences + combos so,
to answer your question . . . well nullify it, I am a pro wrestling fan NOT a sports entertainment fan. PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Marv95]

There IS NO PG ERA. How can there be a PG Era when wrestling has been PG before? From the rise of Hogan until 1998, WCW until Russo took over, most indies wrestling, even Smackdown has been PG since 2000. If anything this era we're in was branded as the "Universe Era" the same way WWE branded 2002-2006 as "Ruthless Aggression." What the hell is a PG fan anyways? If you're an Attitude Era fan rather than a fan of the AE you aren't a real wrestling fan, sorry.

 

[Wwefan]

Honestly, has anybody ever considered this one possibility? Say the attitude era were to ever come back, what then? People like ufc, football and baseball more than wrestling nowadays. Those 'real sports' fans aren't going to stop watching football, ufc, and baseball just to watch a fake sport. That would make returning to the attitude era pointless.

As for the pg fans. What the fuck is wrong with being a fan of pg? If you've noticed, even though the product is pg, the skinny dives still dress like skanks. The superstars still walk around half naked. Explain to me how exactly that can be pg when pg shows rarely ever show what I mentioned above?

Still, this is the best part. The all mighty attitude era fans, the ones who think that they are real fans for having watched wwe during the attitude era, are the same idiotic bums who are watching pg wrestling. After all, you can't complain about something without watching it.

I will now leave, and expect a full bashing to appear at any moment.
Till then, good day.

 

[Lowdown]

I'm a WWE fan far and above any fan of a certain Era. I may have my favourite time periods but at the end of the day I have been watching WWE for almost 18 years and aslong as the product is entertaining I don't mind who it is targeted at. I think there will always be something for everybody and aslong as that remains I will be happy. I loved the Attitude Era but I like watching WWE with my younger cousin who I would not want to be exposed to some of the stuff that happend during that time period. I would be all for some sort of warzone type deal being bought back for the later part of Raw but really as I said I just want some good entertainment and times have to change or things get stale. I am sure a time will come when things get much more edgy again but right now things are ok. Definitely better than a couple of years ago anyway.

I'm inclined to agree with your sentiment. I don't watch WWE programming anymore because its not entertaining to me, but at the same time I'm not gonna bash it. I remember how the "New Generation" of the early to mid 90's sucked on the whole. You had mainstays like Bret and Shawn, but you also had questionable gimmicks like Duke the Dumpster, Bastion Booger, and Salvatore Sincere. Its a down period. WWF didn't have heavy competition just yet. But when WCW started the NWO and it was getting a wider range of national exposure, McMahon had to change with the times and get edgier. Plus back then in most markets WWF was only on cable. Weekend TV shows like Superstars and Challenge was moved to the USA network with Raw. WCW took over regular broadcast local channels and with the wave of NWO, started competing with WWF on a higher level. Now if you don't like the PG era, you should stop watching. But chances are it won't be like this forever. If TNA or dare I say another big wrestling promotion starts to give WWE serious competition like back in the 90's, then McMahon will have to shake things up again.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Remember 2010 when there used to be epic discussions about Attitude Era vs. PG Era. Now we are stuck with these watered down discussuions that have no edge and excitement.

Someone once told me that conversation like entertainment needs to cycle and evolve but can still honor its past when appropriate or it becomes stale. That's crazy talk!

Silly posters, wrestling is for kids or at least that part of you that is still a kid. Entertainment has evolved/devolved this century and a company like WWE has to do what it has to do to keep up. That means changing the product in certain ways. I am just thankful that they do honor and bring back old wrestlers and storylines on certain occassions. It makes me feel like I still matter to the company even though I am not their target audience.

 

[mikde_]

I'm not a PG fan, I'm not a tv14 fan. I watch for wrestling. I started watching around the ruthless agression era, so you forgot that. I watch WWE, TNA{ for the X division}, ROH, Chikara, NOAH, NWS{ I live near it}, NJPW, Dragon Gate USA and AAA. I fill my world with pro wrestling and sometimes even match japanese MMA. I'm fine with storylines and I do enjoy a good promo segment but my interest is in ring stuff, I have over 120 favorite performers in the industry. I think I'd probably be a great play-by-play commentators, I've never been wrong about predicting if a pin will win a match or not{ on WWE, TNA's X division PPV stopped this streak}. My top favorite performers are and in no particular order, The Miz, HBK, Chris Jericho, Evan Bourne, Kota Ibushi, Mike Quackenbush. Wrestlers I dislike{ for in ring ability} are Jeff Hardy, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston{ slowly impressing me}and David Otunga. I am NOT watching and hoping for new exciting angles and lines that aren't to PC so to speak. I'm 17, I've heard it all, I use it all on a daily basis hearing it on TV does NOTHING for me but I am a big
mark for chain wrestling-catch-hand and epic sequences + combos so,
to answer your question . . . well nullify it, I am a pro wrestling fan NOT a sports entertainment fan. PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry but you have to be the most obnoxious, arrogant and simply annoying poster i have encountered on this forum! Every single thing you post is just a description of what you like about wrestling and why you like it.

Everything you wrote here has zero to do with the topic!

Sorry but i seriously doubt anybody gives a fuck who your favourite performers are or wether or not you like promos and nobody cares if you are a mark for chain wrestling. What are you trying to proove?

urgh!

but yeah the world has changed so much since the attitude era and WWE just goes along with it. Notice how the world has become extremely pollitically correct the last few years and in that time WWE have kind of relaxed on the edgier angles and what not. Thats what i like about WWE, they usually reflect society of the time. Sometimes with good results and sometimes with bad results

 

[The Champ]

If your between the ages of 23-35, then you remember and were apart of the epic attitude era in the WWF/E.

Or maybe they started watching as adults. Way to put everyone from an age group into one singular grouping from the very beginning of your argument.

We were in high school and some of us were in college around this time. But now were older and have children of are own who watches the WWE in the now PG era of the company. While the product has been watered down for the targeted audience of the WWE universe.

The "WWE Universe" refers to the entire audience, so I'm not sure what you mean by this. Also, give specific examples of how it's been "watered down" beyond less swearing and boobs, which you can get in plenty of movies and pornos.

What will that leave for us WWE fans from the attitude era?

CM Punk, Randy Orton, Sheamus. The BADASS~! babyfaces. Cheer for them.

WWE chairman Vince McMahon may be targeting the viewers from the ages of 7-16. But Vince McMahon knows in his great wisdom that it is the older fans who pays the money to see a WWE live event, as well as for his WWE merchandise, pay per views, ECT. Are the kids paying any of this? No! Unless a kid is saving his or her milk money or something?

Uh, their parents are? Parents who will get the kids what they want to make them happy?

Remember the RAW "Old School" show from last November? That show was for the older fans of the WWE from back from the WWF days. Thus missing the targeted PG fans of the WWE universe. With the returns of the Rock, Trish Stratus, and Stone Cold Steve Austin this year.

Yes. So, by your own admission, WWE is still trying to target their entire fanbase.

Not sure what the point of this thread was beyond the same old baseless complaints that I see on here every day.

 

[Minister Christian]

If your between the ages of 23-35, then you remember and were apart of the epic attitude era in the WWF/E.

I`am 23, and yes i started watching wrestling in 1997, When i was 9 years of age. And i followed wrestling right up untill the WCW joined the WWF, i thought there was too many wrestlers and i stopped watching it right up untill wrestlemania 25.

But my point is. I was a 9 year old that loved the attitude era.

If i was a 9 year old now, i think i would still hate John Cena.

 

[Azane]

WCW was more a catalyst for the Attitude era than WWF actually was, the fire under their tails of actual competition forced them to conform the product to the audience better.

 

[Ryyu]

I dislike when people say "Oh Kids are ruining it" then lament a time when they we're a kid. Looking forward to when the kids of today are whining about the next generation not being as good as Punk or Cena. PS i remember people HATING Hogan on the pre NWO 90s, now the same people think he's a god, why, Because you grew up on him. Don't shout at the kids for not knowing who people from the attitude era are. In 92 i had NO idea who Harley Race or Bruno Samantino was, But i knew WWF was coming to the UK and Davey Boy was going to be fighting Bret for the IC title. Now i know who they are, why? Because I got into it caring about Bret and Bulldog.

PG era has Ruined Wrestling just like the attitude era and ECW Ruined wrestling just like WWF going national Ruined wrestling.

PS I'm not saying the product is great, its not as good as it has been, I just hate all this blaming the kids and rose coloured glasses that goes on these days.

 

[BASSER911414]

There IS NO PG ERA. How can there be a PG Era when wrestling has been PG before? From the rise of Hogan until 1998, WCW until Russo took over, most indies wrestling, even Smackdown has been PG since 2000. If anything this era we're in was branded as the "Universe Era" the same way WWE branded 2002-2006 as "Ruthless Aggression." What the hell is a PG fan anyways? If you're an Attitude Era fan rather than a fan of the AE you aren't a real wrestling fan, sorry.

Todays era is called the PG Era by the world. Your calling it the Universe Era wont change anyones mind. and thats a pretty dumb statement. If ur a fan of the Attitude Era ur not a wrestling fan. I like the product they put out but I wish everyday that the rating returns to TV 14. Not just because I miss the Attitude era which believe it or not was WAAAY more entertaining and just plain out better than what you see today. Let me explain below.


There is no disputing the fact that the Attitude Era was the best at least the most entertaining and anyone who does is an idiot. Almost every wrestler knew how to cut a decent promo with some like the Rock, Austin, HHH hell even American Bad Ass Undertaker doing some very nice promo work. You had more entertaining matches (but then again since all wrestlers then were better than wrestlers now thats a given), you had a loyal fan base who rarely criticized the way the business was run. There wasnt much of in IWC back then so basically they just saw the product put out in front of them. Yes there were online forums but nothing like nowadays. Now for the tough stuff. There was blood, there was bikinis and there was controversial stuff. I dont know about u but the fact that when there was a divas fashion contest the audience was cheering like hell sure as hell didnt really sound as if they minded it like some of u here. And the sound of the OOOOOHHHHHHSSSS when u hear a chairshot to the head or any part of the body as long as it had a resonating sound. The cheering when a familiar face was seen.

Thats the difference between the 'PG' era and the Attitude Era. I agree that the Attitude Era is over and isnt coming back but I still wish for a slightly edgier show. Along the lines of the era between 2002-2006 which was dubbed the ruthless aggression era. I think the WWE could still pull that off. And I think that would be a middle ground for both Attitude Era fans and people who are such big fans of the PG Era. Have a no DQ match with weapons like chairs, ladders, trashcans used enough so that the impact is felt. Have a swimsuit contest once every three or so weeks. The divas division is pretty crap honestly, something like this would only bring interest back. Wrestlers have returned to using swearing so I wont count that. I know what people would say. We want to see divas wel watch porn, we want to see blood wel watch UFC bla bla bla. But the thing is u dont watch UFC unless ur interested in it. U dont watch it for the blood (which is also rare enough) and u dont watch porn as a replacement for Kelly Kelly doing a hot strip tease. If u wanna see Kelly dance, y the hell shouldnt u. If u want to see CM Punk bust Cenas head open with a chair y shouldnt u. But really people, not poking the fans of wrestling but stuff like this would only bring interest back. No Harm. Not asking for much just a little more of an edge. Like a gradual change.

And the funny thing although doubtful as it may seem if there were to be an Attitude Era 2.0 all the criticism would be gone replaced by 'Dude did u see Randy Orton bust open Cody Rhodes head with that punt. That was freakin sweet' and 'Dude Kelly Kelly did that Expose thing, shes so hot'. You definitely wont be saying I miss the PG Era.

Live with the times I agree but let the hopers hope.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Why is it that some people believe that just because you're a certain age group, you only find programs filled with sleaze, blood and profanity to be enjoyable? If someone is going to keep creating these PG Era threads, then it's time to fill them with legit facts rather than randomly made up figures.

The PG Era was designed and has been designed to be more of a family friendly product than it was before. Does that mean that WWE is targeting people 7-16 years old? Where in the blue fuck do you people come up with such idiotic ideas? The vast majority of WWE's audience consists of adult males. Don't take my word for it, do a little research yourself on tvbythenumbers.com. It's all right on that site. As I said earlier, just because you're of an older age group doesn't mean that the only programming that appeals to you are programs filled with mindless violence, flurries of swearing, blood flying about all over the place and more nudity than a $10 ****ehouse. Now, if that's what you're into then that's all fine and dandy. Nothin' wrong with that generally speaking, but to think that's the only kind of programming that appeals to "adult" viewers just shows how out of touch and immature you really are.

The Attitude Era was a lot of fun. I was a teenager when the AE was going on and it was a lot of fun. The thing is, however, I haven't romanticized the memories I have of the AE. While I did enjoy a lot of it, a lot of it was also just plain crap. In spite of the propoganda you might read sometimes, the Attitude Era wasn't this paragon of greatness in which all was right with the wrestling world. Not every feud was a the stuff that a promoter's dreams are made of, not every promo set the world on fire, not every match was some sort of epic clash of titans to be talked about through the ages. It wasn't like that at all. For every example of greatness, you had just as much crap going on. Some nights, you had compelling storylines, promo segments and some decent matches. Some nights, it was like watching a bad episode of Jerry Springer in which the writers were coked out of their heads.

The PG Era isn't perfect, nor can it claim to be, and neither was the Attitude Era. The content of a television program can be great or shitty, that has little to do with whether it's rated PG or TV-14. You can have quality or crap with either rating.

 

[The Champ]

The PG era has fans?

Yes, it does. As evidenced by the thousands of fans who go to every WWE show, the millions who watch their programming every week, all the revenue they pull in from merchandise and pay-per-view buys, and their continued success as a multi-million dollar global entertainment company which appeals to many key demographics. Clearly, the PG era has fans. If not, then WWE would have gone bankrupt when they made the change.

 

[Razakel]

I can understand if you're only a WWE fan and you're annoyed with the whole attitude era vs. PG era talk but during the attitude era:

It was a great time to be a PRO WRESTLING fan.I was never a fan of brand loyalty so whenever I was bored with a cheesy DX segment and constant suck it references i could switch the channel to watch a WCW cruiserweight match with juventud guerrerra and Psychosis. or vice versa if i was bored with Hogan talking for 20 minutes about the nwo brother...i could switch to wwe and watch mankind vs. bret.

You had a vast choice of what you wanted to see..There was WCW,WWF,ECW.
The storylines in all 3 companies were UNPREDICTABLE.
Key word there: UNPREDICTABLE.
Just take a look at what we have now...

The WWE is on business as usual mode..with the occasional surprising storyline like The Nexus and Cm punk promo that just jump out of nowhere and actually surprise you but then get watered down and either get dropped without explanation (Nexus) or get turned to crap (Cm punk tags with Cena,storyline shifts to HHH is the COO).

TNA has ancient relics of the WCW past and rehashed NWO storylines with Immortal all taking place in front of a jaded impact zone audience that reminds me of the old WCW worldwide days...
I think ROH is fresh and different but most people on the net seem to bash it.My theory is that they've been watching ten years of WWE sports entertainment so whenever they see something different from that formula they consider it "boring" or worse yet "it ain't gonna get ratings" and desperetly want to see this big huge event with 25000 fans packing in an arena with hollywood style movie production intros and promos...cuz you know,everything else looks "too indy"

The point is you had a choice back in the attitude era.and the storylines weren't in "business as usual" mode because everybody was in competition so you had different ideas and fresh faces and different persectives about what people view as pro wrestling:
WCW had their view about what pro wrestling was about.
ECW had a very different view.
and WWE had their view.

Now it's Vince Mcmahon's monopoly of sports entertainment and his vision...and everybody else.and everybody else is either trying to copy that business model badly (TNA)
or is simply lost because of the overwealming presence that WWE has on the pro wrestling market.