Ted DiBiase Jr. another wasted talent?

[Shadowbladez]

I think Dibiase has potential but he just doesn't have the right gimmick or character right now. He shows no connection with the "fortunate son" gimmick. They should repackage him and turn him face.

 

[JGlass]

To say Ted DiBiase wasn't given the chance shows how short term the IWC's memory is when it comes to these sorts of things. Ted was given plenty of chances to succeed. They stuck him with a Trust Fund gimmick, paired him up with one of the more talented divas in Maryse, and eve threw him a nostalgia flavored bone in Virgil. They put him in feuds with Orton, R-Truth, Daniel Bryan, and even Goldust! And guess what, all of those feuds were stinkers. What's worse, DiBiase was the dead weight in all those feuds, and this is especially apparent in his feuds with Goldust and Bryan.

DiBiase is totally dull on the mic, ridiculously untalented in the ring, and lacks anything even remotely mistakable for charisma. He has a halfway decent look, but after you get past that you will find that Ted Jr. is the textbook definition of dud.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

What a ******ed statement. Wasted talent? Lets see, he gets Orton at Mania and STILL doesn't get over.

Ever think that just because YOU think he's good that no everyone else (the main audience) does? His selling and emotions are inconsistent, he's not very malleable and he's pretty generic in the ring. Cody Rhodes is interesting, sells well, tells stories in the ring with little cool details, and emotes well.

that's why dibiase is where he is and why rhodes is where he is.

WWE doesn't EVER waste true talent. They might not always push your favorite guys, but if a guy is getting over, trust me, he'll get pushed and they'll milk every last dime out of him. They tried with Dibiase, he didn't succeed.

 

[stasheroo]

What a ******ed statement. Wasted talent? Lets see, he gets Orton at Mania and STILL doesn't get over.

And at the time, Rhodes wasted the very same 'opportunity'.

Ever think that just because YOU think he's good that no everyone else (the main audience) does? His selling and emotions are inconsistent, he's not very malleable and he's pretty generic in the ring. Cody Rhodes is interesting, sells well, tells stories in the ring with little cool details, and emotes well.

Cody Rhodes was floundering every bit as much as Dibiase was before his new Mankind gimmick. Getting moved to Smackdown allowed him the ability to continue to get noticed, unlike plenty of others who get pushed to the wayside for the Cena/Orton show.

that's why dibiase is where he is and why rhodes is where he is.

Rhodes was fortunate enough to get moved to Smackdown and have continued opportunity until something he tried did work.

WWE doesn't EVER waste true talent. They might not always push your favorite guys, but if a guy is getting over, trust me, he'll get pushed and they'll milk every last dime out of him. They tried with Dibiase, he didn't succeed.

Yeah, they're infallable. They never miss. Every idea is brilliant, every move the right one. Is this you Vince?

Tell me one dime that Michael Cole earns for the company in that assinine feud he's got going, yet they continue to push a storyline nobody wants to see down fans' throats!

They've been trying to tell the fans for years what they think is over and what they think the fans should want to see. And lowering ratings and disappointing buyrates show that they're out of touch.

And the embarrassment that was a soon-to-be forgotten Wrestlemania only adds further proof.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

I didn't say they're infallable. I just said they never waste talent. Talent in wrestling is getting over. If you're getting over, they push you. Sometimes they push the wrong guy who doesn't get over (Dibiase).

If you NEED a great push to get over, you're not that good.

You are incapable of seeing something from someone else' perspective. Cole generates TONS of heat, so it's working. Buyrates are lower than attitude era rates because of the UFC. They're rebuilding their audience.

 

[Lucid]

Why can't some guys just be jobbers? Is that irrational?

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

^^^^^ Good point. Personally, I'd feel more secure with my job if I was Santino than if I was Daniel Bryan or Ted Dibiase. It takes a LOT of talent to be a joke and a jobber and STILL be over and stay that way. Santino is super talented and I respect the hell out of him for being able to do what he does.

 

[stasheroo]

I didn't say they're infallable. I just said they never waste talent. Talent in wrestling is getting over. If you're getting over, they push you. Sometimes they push the wrong guy who doesn't get over (Dibiase).

Often-times they push the wrong guy who doesn't get over. Dibiase's 'push' was done half-heartedly with no follow-through. The current WWE has no patience.

If you NEED a great push to get over, you're not that good.

Wow, tell that to every wrestler who has ever amounted to anything. I guess none of them were 'that good' either.

You are incapable of seeing something from someone else' perspective. Cole generates TONS of heat, so it's working. Buyrates are lower than attitude era rates because of the UFC. They're rebuilding their audience.

Cole generates 'not again' heat. He gets the go away and stop wasting my time heat. You spend enough time on a talentless clown who nobody wants to see or hear and you'll succeed in driving away your fanbase.

People are checking out a spike in ratings for one week as proof. If that's your 'proof', then the Miz and Cena should be fired, right? That same week, their segments lost a ton compared to this 'red-hot' rivalry. Vince McMahon has successfully chased away most of the fanbase from the attitude/Monday Night War era.

Back on topic, I think the WWE's heel overload also hurts Dibiase's chances for success. Given his character, I think it would be very tough to turn him face at this point. I hope for a move to Smackdown to give him more of an opportunity.

 

[AngryCenaFan]

Honestly....
He sucks if his last name wasn't Dibiase he would not be around still

 

[ramblinroy682]

When he was testing the waters in Legacy and was semi-feuding with Orton, the WWE could have pushed him as a face. I think in that instance the WWE missed a chance to see how he could get over as a face. Orton made the turn.

Orton clearly is and always will be a bigger star, but in that instant, the WWE had a chance to give Dibiase the opportunity to become a major player. Instead he went to the back burner. He got the million dollar belt and then maryse. I don't think his natural instincts are as a heel. I think fans can get behind a face who doesn't have the personality if they believe in his motives. Look at Kofi. He doesn't give great interviews but he comes out and silently gets the crowd behind him. Dibiase could have been similar. Now, no one cares about him.

I think at this point for him to generate some Major heat, he should buy the services of the big show. Like his Dad did with Andre. Have the big show take out the competition and then capitalize. Maybe win the IC or US belts. Have him get major heat by cowardice actions and then...when the time is right...turn him face against big show.

 

[Big Sexy]

The WWE tried to get him over as a face but instead they cheered Orton. They have tried numerous times to get him over as a heel with multiple pushes and every time it has failed. Honestly I don't think Dibiase is all that great. He is solid in the ring and solid on the mic but in terms of entertainment he just doesn't do it for me. He has the look and all the tools necessary but he can't seem to put it all together in an entertaining fashion. Until he does that he will just be stuck in the lower mid card. The WWE isn't wasting Dibiase, he just isn't good enough at this point to deserve a big push.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Cole generates 'not again' heat. He gets the go away and stop wasting my time heat. You spend enough time on a talentless clown who nobody wants to see or hear and you'll succeed in driving away your fanbase.

People are checking out a spike in ratings for one week as proof. If that's your 'proof', then the Miz and Cena should be fired, right? That same week, their segments lost a ton compared to this 'red-hot' rivalry. Vince McMahon has successfully chased away most of the fanbase from the attitude/Monday Night War era.

Back on topic, I think the WWE's heel overload also hurts Dibiase's chances for success. Given his character, I think it would be very tough to turn him face at this point. I hope for a move to Smackdown to give him more of an opportunity.

No, if Cole generated "not again" heat, people WOULDN'T MAKE ANY NOISE. The way to tell a heel you aren't entertained by him isn't by....booing. That makes about as much sense as getting a dog to stop pissing on the floor by giving him a treat. Maybe to YOU he gets that kind of heat, shit, from ME he gets that kind of heat, I change the channel after a while. However, WWE looks at the quarterly ratings and listens to the crowd, cole is over.

And no, Stone Cold didn't get a massive push until he was massively over. Same with Rock, hogan and Cena got pushed hard, and got over hard, so they got massively pushed, and got massively over. A massive push doesn't get a guy massively over. A guy getting massively over gets him a massive push.

This is why they stopped with Ted. he wasn't getting shit because he isn't any good. He's bland, with marginal skills at best. he doesn't emote, and doesn't sell. the fans just don't give a shit about him. If you can't get over after being in a match with Randy Orton at wrestlemania, you don't deserve a huge push. Just like after beating HHH 3 times and having a great match with HBK shelton benjamin didn't get over.

Why waste your time on a guy who was given a GREAT shot and didn't get over? Why not try someone else who shows promise?

 

[Random_Dude]

cant cut a promo worth dick......they have tried pushing him, but as somebody said he cant get a reaction out of the crowd, they tried the million dollar gimmick and it has failed, this couple thing with Maryse is boring

its quite shocking when you think about it when you look @ rhodes, who was suppose to be the weak link in Legacy is now becoming one of WWE's brightest stars, while Jr. is wrestling Yatsu on Superstars weekly, maybe a brand change will do good for him *shrug*

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

^^^^In all fairness to Ted though, maryse sucks just about as much as he does. In fact they're kinda the same person. Both have the look, just no real charisma or ability to make the crowd care.

Ted, relatively speaking, hasn't actually been wrestling that long. Sure he's got it in his blood and naturally knows more than most because he has his dad there. However, there isn't a substitute for ring time. I remember seeing his 2nd match ever in Eldon, Missouri against a guy named Darin Waid/Wade (probably more talented than Ted, just doesn't have the look or bloodline). It was solid, but it looked like Wade was guiding him.

Ted CAN sell really well. I've seen him do it on the indies. I just think he's not ready for the WWE. I don't think he ever was. He has the look and bloodline for him to be credible, but after that it's kinda like uhh....what do we do?

 

[beckyh]

I would have him 'injured' and then returned with a totally new gimmick/look. Nothing that would smack of his dad's stuff either. Something totally new. And he could make a decent babyface.

But I would not be surprised if he got future endeavoured....

 

[berlinbrawler]

Yay, an opportunity for me to say "I told you so."

Back when he and Cody were Legacy I said Cody was the one with some potential and Dibiase was as bland as vanilla. The people on that wrestling board where I posted this (which unfortunately no longer exists) showered me with lovely hate, because they all agreed with all the experts that DiBiase was the one to keep an eye on and that Cody sucked.

Seriously, though, I agree with everyone who said that it was a mistake to make DiBiase relive his old man's gimmick.
I laughed when he asked R-Truth to be his Virgil. I laughed some more when he brought out the ORIGINAL Virgil. ... That was the last time he made me do anything but yawn.
He may yet recover, drop that gimmick that should have stayed in the 80s and become his own thing, and maybe make something of himself, but I maintain that I never saw it in him.

In all fairness to Ted though, maryse sucks just about as much as he does.

I love Maryse. Love her French shtick. Love the talk-to-the-hand thing she does. She is smoking hot and her wrestling is ok for a diva. What more can you expect? I do hope she will eventually dump DiBiase and come crawling back to the Miz (remember when he kept hitting on her but she rejected hiom every time because he was a LOSER?). I still hope they will pick up where that left off.

 

[stasheroo]

I have to wonder if part of the reason for Dibiase's push getting halted had anything to do with Alberto Del Rio's arrival in the company?

I'm not sure what the timelines were with Del Rio's arrival and Dibiase's Fortunate Son angle being de-emphasized.

The reason I say this is because both men have the 'rich man' heel-type gimmick and the company may not have been comfortable having two guys running around doing essentially the same 'schtick'.

As for Maryse, I thought they were on to something pairing up the Gold-digger with the 'Fortunate Son', but when she did nothing as far as his matches, the pairing fizzled and went nowhere fast.

I still feel that Dibiase can be salvaged if someone puts the time into him and that he can be a viable IC or US Title contender.

 

[TheKingHustla]

I have to wonder if part of the reason for Dibiase's push getting halted had anything to do with Alberto Del Rio's arrival in the company?

I'm not sure what the timelines were with Del Rio's arrival and Dibiase's Fortunate Son angle being de-emphasized.

The reason I say this is because both men have the 'rich man' heel-type gimmick and the company may not have been comfortable having two guys running around doing essentially the same 'schtick'.

As for Maryse, I thought they were on to something pairing up the Gold-digger with the 'Fortunate Son', but when she did nothing as far as his matches, the pairing fizzled and went nowhere fast.

I still feel that Dibiase can be salvaged if someone puts the time into him and that he can be a viable IC or US Title contender.

I have to think that that has something to do with it. Alberto Del Rio is a better version of what Dibiase should have been. I think that now, they need to find him a role that he can use. The problem is that he doesn't have the mic skills to carry too many roles. Look at his old running mate Cody, he had to find a role he could thrive in, and he has, in both the previous face one and the flipped heel one. I think Dibiase needs to find his nitch, but with that being said, I can't really see him being too much of anything other than a sidekick, like he was with Orton.

 

[stasheroo]

I have to think that that has something to do with it. Alberto Del Rio is a better version of what Dibiase should have been. I think that now, they need to find him a role that he can use. The problem is that he doesn't have the mic skills to carry too many roles. Look at his old running mate Cody, he had to find a role he could thrive in, and he has, in both the previous face one and the flipped heel one. I think Dibiase needs to find his nitch, but with that being said, I can't really see him being too much of anything other than a sidekick, like he was with Orton.

I think the long overdue Fortunate Sons stable would do Ted Jr and plenty of other second (or third) generation guys a world of good.

The trouble is that the company has too many heels and enough heel stables already without adding another one which could get lost in the shuffle.

In my opinion, it's a tough time for a heel to get noticed or move up the ladder right now.

 

[berlinbrawler]

Alberto Del Rio is a better version of what Dibiase should have been.

How very true. I think of Del Rio as hispanic JBL and of JBL I thought of as the Million Dollar Man 2.0, a modern day version of what Ted sr. did in the 80s.
Ted Jr., on the other hand, gives us merely a poor man's rehash of what his father did, nothing original.

 

[Reddog1146]

First thing... 100th post!!!

Ok, i think that Dibiase should create a stable to get into the main event or at least back into mid card. He could be the rich, strict leader and pay his stablemates to do matches for him, give him titles they win, or anything else he wants. Heres who i would put in the stable:
1) Brett Dibiase- good opportunity for him to debut.

2)Primo-He was paid off by Dibiase to attack R Truth in the past.

3)Cody Rhodes- They had great chemistry as a tag team, he would have to lose his gimmick he has right now.

4)Tyler Reks- He could be the muscle of the group.

5)Tyson Kidd- He could be the justin gabriel of the group.
These are just a few ideas for a satble.

 

[the_mighty_biggs]

They should have kept the million dollar belt on him that feud with golddust was interesting and could have went further.

Virgil should have also stuck around with him.

make him pay off other wresters start his own stable buy title matches buy the refere's

lots could be done with him and im sure one day will be

 

[beckyh]

Every time I see DiBiase on TV, I always have the feeling he would rather be fishing or playing golf. He has a YouTube Channel (DiBiase Posse) and there is some funny stuff on there. For some reason he freezes on live tv. I dunno...

Cody has worked both of his gimmicks like they are Wrestlemania gold. And that is how every talent should do it. No matter what they or the audience thinks of it.

 

[mattstar19]

i think dibiase should get a new start on smackdown have corre disband then ezik becomes dibiases bodyguard have brett dibiase & migillicutty(joe Henning)
joining him maybe cody as well have him fued with christian the new world champion then win the title after a couple of months a fued with orton who would have been drafted to smackdown 2 then lose title before mania and challenge undertaker at mania 28 he could bribe the ref and end takers streak

 

[Dagger Dias]

I am disappointed as well. Dibiase should be as far along now on Raw as Cody is on Smackdown, if not further. He never got the huge push he was rumored to be getting. I think that the gimmick of him being rich and spoiled could have worked, even bringing back the Million Dollar Championship was an interesting idea. It gave him something to stand out with. The booking is to blame. I think that he could work well with just about anyone. He's good on the mic so he works as either a face or a heel and he has been improving in the ring. Just push Ted. Have him get some wins for a few weeks, each more impressive than the last, then have him take the United States Championship from Sheamus. An impressive reign would follow, then he could break into the upper card. Ted's character would be fine he could still use the rich gimmick he just needs to actually get pushed, that's all that's missing.