Swagger/McIntyre: On fire or Fizziling out?

[Money Inc.]

This thread is dedicated to a couple of superstars that arguably have received the two biggest creative pushes in the last 6 months (with exception to Sheamus)

However, I've noticed over the past couple of weeks that a lot of members have been less intrigued with Swagger and McIntyre.

I however feel I've been the complete opposite of the members above. I was less impressed with the pairing when their original push started, as now now I'm very interested to see what the two do next.

First off lets review the roads both men went down, and the direction they are currently heading.


Jack Swagger - The All American American

Coming into Wrestlemania XXVI many of the reports had WWE Creative giving up on Swagger, and deciding to derail his "push" at the time. Arguably a lot of us felt there were four wrestlers besides Swagger in the MITB that were coming in more over (Kofi Kingston, Christian, MVP, and McIntyre) Reports coming in from reliable sources all had McIntyre as the favorite to receive the briefcase.

With that being said, Jack Swagger received the push and came down with the future title shot. Swagger than comes down the next night and decides the cash in his MITB briefcase on a downed John Cena. Of course by the time the referee makes his way down the ring, Cena is to his feet and Swagger decides to decline the contest. The very next night on the SD! tapings Jack Swagger switches shows and cashes in on a downed Chris Jericho. This time Swagger is able to hit the gut wrench and get the 1-2-3.

The next few days on this forum the threads were buzzin' with both positive and negative reviews. The next couple of weeks we begin to see Jack Swagger build some character on the mic. A noticeable change in flow/speed when he talks IMO improved his all around mic work (He use to talk so fast where the lisp came out more, and it came off sloppy...once again IMO) Even at one point Jack Swagger decides to not only be Smackdown's World Champion, but he also takes time in becoming the brands Ms. Cleo (Who else remembers Swagger going up to Benjamin and I quote "You still work here." Who knows, maybe his daddyy gave him a heads up on Shelton's popularity)

Then on April 16th Swagger successfully defends the title in a triple threat match against Chris Jericho and Edge. Right around this time Swagger has noticeably changed his persona all together. The man who used to come out beating his chest like a gorilla now has a slow, steady, and almost viper like entrance. He takes time out of his entrance to pause and mean mug the audience before entering the squared circle.

Swagger then gets IMO the biggest win of his career in defending the WHC against the most over guy in the company at the time (one Randall Orton) at Extreme Rules. A lot of people on here will probably reply to this and say it was obvious he was going to retain, but the majority of you had Orton winning it on these threads.

In Jack Swaggers short lived title run, this is what I consider the climax of the run. Putting him over on Orton at the time was genius and got Swagger even more heat with the fans.

The Downfall or "fizzle" now begins...

So for the 32nd year in a row, Raw absolutely rapes Smackdown in the draft (and yet Smackdown is leaps above Raw to this day in wrestling quality/booking/etc)

We then witness the face turn of the Big Show and ultimately Teddy Long giving the #1 contender shot to the Big Show. At this point I'm simply because you have Swagger as one of the most over guys in the company right now and you pair him up with a guy that can't sell any of Swagger's move set. This feud is hyped up with pretty good promos every week in which Jack Swagger is continuing his recently adopted "I'm better than you" gimmick. The first couple weeks lead into the Over the Limit ppv where Swagger retains via DQ (once again, you give him a feud in where he isn't able to do half of his moves that sell, what do you expect )

At this point I'm on the fizzling wagon, and praying Undertaker comes back to give him the famous "taker rub." With reports of Undertaker still being banged up I'm praying they give Christian the push at Swagger. I just want to say I'm a huge fan of the Big Show, I enjoy his work and always been a fan of his. However when you have a guy as over as Swagger was, I just didn't understand the booking involved with this. When then get the announcement of the Fatal 4 way match (Punk, Swagger, Show, Rey) and I'm thinking an easy retain for Swagger plus it gives Swagger the opportunity to showcase more of his move set with guys like Punk and Rey.

However apparently the WWE drops the ball in not allowing Rey to take short trip to Mexico to compete in a tournament dedicated to him, and Rey gets a bit of Batista syndrome. With the recent departure of Batista and Shawn Michaels mixed in with recent injuries to the Undertaker and Trips, we now have one dangerous WWE Cocktail brewing. So afraid that Rey is planning on taking his ball elsewhere, the WWE does the last thing I imagined (I had both Punk and Show winning the title before a Rey reign) and crowns Rey as the new WHC.

Now, we all know the internet sheets like to exaggerate backstage meetings, but with rumors of Rey pouting backstage, I have no doubt in my mind that this influenced the booking of Jack Swaggers title reign. A part of me finds it hard not to believe with Rey single handed derailing the push of Dolph Ziggler last year.

Q & A

1) Do you think Rey influenced the out come of this match, or do you think the dirt sheets exaggerated the politics behind this?

2) Would it of been worth it to let Rey pout, and continue Swaggers title reign?

At this point I'm not necessarily saying he's fizzling (simply due to bad booking) but I'm wondering what in the hell just happened with that push. Now the past couple weeks, I've felt Jack Swagger has been the 2nd most over guy on SD! (see #1 below) Swagger has an almost sadistic like gimmick going on. His facial reactions almost remind of Gollum of LOTR (Swagger won't stop until he's holding that title again/Gollum won't stop until the ring is his... beautiful analogy I know) I personally believe in the great words of Marv Albert "He's on fire"

little more Q & A

3) Do you feel Swagger needs to regain the title at the ppv this month?

4) Is it possibly a smarter move to keep Rey as champion with rumors the WWE is trying to sell "little guys" in the Main event scene (Bourne, Kaval, Danielson, etc)

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Drew "The Chosen One" McIntyre

I'm not going to go down the road of his full push and will try to summarize this one.

I think besides Me and Theonebigwill, all of you think Drew has completely fizzled out.

Once again, either I missed something.. or I'm the complete opposite on this one. McIntyre last fall-this years wrestlemania I couldn't stand. Post wrestlemania I think he's been the most over heel in the company. I personally feel he gets more heat than Sheamus, Edge, Swagger, Jericho, and Punk right now. His promos with Teddy are golden, and his character has grown on me. Once again, it might just be a change of heart with me (It grew on me to late to where if I liked him when all of you did, I would of realized he's fizzling" However IMO I don't think I caught on too late, and I really do think he's recent character has been that good.

Q & A

5) Will you be upset if McIntyre pulls down the MITB briefcase next sunday?

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Please take time to vote on the poll, and If you want write a reply on why you think one of the other is fizzling or If you think their on fire like me.

 

[Ferbian]

1) Do you think Rey influenced the out come of this match, or do you think the dirt sheets exaggerated the politics behind this?

I believe it's been proved that Rey Mysterio's backstage bitching influenced the outcome of the Fatal Four Way match. I definitely believe that Rey Mysterio due to not being able to take the vacation he was promised. As well as the fact that he was already a bit annoyed backstage definitely influenced something.

However bitching or not I could imagine Rey Mysterio getting the championship either way. CM Punk or Big Show could've done it as well. But Rey Mysterio seemed like he was in line for another reign or something. Especially considering management wasn't completely happy with the Swagger reign.

2) Would it of been worth it to let Rey pout, and continue Swaggers title reign?

Not necessarily. I believe Rey would get over it eventually. But I also believe it's not worth taking the risk of pulling such a stint on the bigger draw. At least I could see WWE giving Rey at least a 2-3 months title reign just to keep him shut. Or until The Undertaker is back so he can take his vacation.

Jack will become world champion eventually again though. It'll take a little while. Sheamus became champion again if you remember.

3) Do you feel Swagger needs to regain the title at the ppv this month?

Again not necessarily. I would like to see Swagger regain it. But it depends how WWE plans to book him. If they plan on doing it like Sheamus has the plans this time - A strong booking. Then I definitely want Swagger to regain it.

Also he's been looking dominant and brutal over the last couple of weeks. The Ankle Lock he debuted definitely helps him.

4) Is it possibly a smarter move to keep Rey as champion with rumors the WWE is trying to sell "little guys" in the Main event scene (Bourne, Kaval, Danielson, etc)

I feel like I've said this before. Not necessarily. WWE has sold small guys as champions before. None of the small guys you mention are anywhere near the main event scene yet. Bourne is the only one. Kaval is on NXT, loosing mostly. And Danielson is not employed.

I think that a big guy could definitely still sell the little guys legitimately. Also considering Rey Mysterio being champion against 2 big guys and a mediocre sized guy with a mean streak. Also Evan Bourne for example going over Sheamus. While we might scream "fluke!" it still builds him credible and legitimate.

5) Will you be upset if McIntyre pulls down the MITB briefcase next sunday?

Not at all. I feel that he might not be in the position momentum wise to pull out this victory. Also that WWE needs to build him properly again like Jack Swagger needs to be build, before I wanna see another reign.

But I won't be upset. I just won't expect it. And he'll have to do some heavy growing on me as well as some heavy credibility building before I will sell him as a true main event player.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

1) Do you think Rey influenced the out come of this match, or do you think the dirt sheets exaggerated the politics behind this?

I wouldn't be surprised if Rey did voice his opinion about the outcome of the Fatal 4 way match. We all know he didn't want to drop the IC title to Dolph a while back, and it was reported that he wasn't pleased with his first World Heavyweight Championship reign that started back at Wrestlemania 22. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Rey influenced the outcome of the match.

2) Would it of been worth it to let Rey pout, and continue Swaggers title reign?

This is a tricky question. Swagger's title reign was booked terribly. He lost clean to Undertaker, John Morrison, and Rey himself while he was champion, so it's clear WWE never wanted to make him out to be a dominant champion, and I don't know if things would've changed if he held on to the belt longer.

3) Do you feel Swagger needs to regain the title at the ppv this month?

I don't think Swagger needs to be WHC again just yet. WWE seems to be trying to make him into a monster with the recent attacks on Big Show and Mysterio, so I don't think he needs the strap just yet. Besides, I doubt he booked any better than he was last time.

4) Is it possibly a smarter move to keep Rey as champion with rumors the WWE is trying to sell "little guys" in the Main event scene (Bourne, Kaval, Danielson, etc)

Rey is pretty over with the fans, and he can put on some entertaining matches, so I wouldn't be surprised if held on to the belt a little longer. Everyone loves "the underdog" story, and Rey fits that role perfectly.

5) Will you be upset if McIntyre pulls down the MITB briefcase next sunday?

No. McIntyre could be back on track to another big push, and winning MITB would of course be a good way to do this. McIntyre has lost to Matt Hardy, and Kofi Kingston has pretty much owned him in their feud, but if Drew can grab the briefcase at the PPV, then his push will be resurrected.

 

[Uncle Sam]

NorCal, you're going to buy a plane ticket to England just to let me taste the back of your hand after this one. Spare me a beating and yourself an expensive journey by reading no further.

Fizzling out, definitely. I like Swagger and I like McIntyre. And I know I always say this about, well, most things before I go on to criticise them - but I really do. Well, McIntyre's really a bit more Marmite for me b--

Anyway, the point I was making is this: their recent feuds have hardly inspired me with confidence. Swagger's feud with Big Show showed great promise but went fast down hill after the whole awards promo. McIntyre's been in a feud with wrestling's least interesting individual, Matt Hardy. Oddly, he's had a weird side feud with Kofi and Teddy going on at the same time.

I am less assured than ever that either have "it". With guys like Barrett and, um, others climbing the card, I'm not sure if space should be saved for McIntyre or Swagger. Who has really bad worry lines. Just sayin'.

 

[The Vintage One]

1) Do you think Rey influenced the out come of this match, or do you think the dirt sheets exaggerated the politics behind this?

Rey definitely influenced this match and there really is no question about it. He was planned to go on vacation, and the only reason he stayed was due to Undertaker getting hurt. The WWE knew Rey would not leave if he became World Champion.

Rey has been a bitch backstage for years, and WWE really had no other choice to keep him happy right now, as he is huge in merchandise, extremely over, and Smackdown lacks main event faces, so yes Rey influenced the match.

2) Would it of been worth it to let Rey pout, and continue Swaggers title reign?

Absolutely not, because if you let Rey pout he would've went on vacation and put Smackdown in a major hole for main event faces as the only one left would be The Big Show. The WWE needed Rey and they knew that so they ended the Swagger reign.

Also, how do we even know if Swagger would've retained even if Rey didn't put. For whatever reason the WWE Officials were not high on the Swagger reign so he might've lost regardless if Rey pouted or didn't pout. I liked the Swagger reign, but I still felt he wasn't ready for it, and WWE probably feels the same way.

3) Do you feel Swagger needs to regain the title at the ppv this month?

No he doesn't need to regain the belt at Money In The Bank, as the WWE is pushing him strong over the month and even if he loses clean to Mysterio he still has looked dominant. Mysterio will keep the belt for a couple of months as most reigns normally do, and Swagger will continue to gain more steam with his new ankle lock submission, and they may be transforming him into the Kurt Angle of this generation and that will certainly be interesting.

As I said earlier Swagger wasn't ready for the belt a few months ago, and I don't think he is ready as he is too young, but he hasn't certainly gotten better over the past couple of months and he has made a fan of him. He is definitely a main event caliber performer and if he continues to develop during the incoming months I can see a reign for him starting around Survivor Series-Royal Rumble time period.

4) Is it possibly a smarter move to keep Rey as champion with rumors the WWE is trying to sell "little guys" in the Main event scene (Bourne, Kaval, Danielson, etc)

It is a smarter move to keep Rey as champion also for the reason you are asking in the question because the WWE seems to be shifting more into the little guy era as most likely due to the PG Era. The WWE wants to have the kids somebody they can relate too such as these younger guys and teach them that underdog can win, and too never give up.

Also these smaller dudes give great entertainment and in an era where the WWE doesn't have any great big man other then The Big Show and when was the last time they gave him the gold, the WWE need to adjust to the times, and with guys like Kaval, Bourne, and hopefully Danielson coming up, Mysterio is the perfect way to get these smaller guys some cred before their big pushes.

5) Will you be upset if McIntyre pulls down the MITB briefcase next sunday?

Yeah I would be pretty upset, as I see absolutely nothing from "The Chosen One" Drew McIntyre. He is meh in the ring and as boring as can be on the microphone, there are so many better and more deserving in the Smackdown Money In The Bank, that Drew should not win the briefcase.

I would rather have Cody Rhodes, Christian and Kofi over him as Christian is long overdue for his main event shot on a main show and "Dashing" and Kofi are both deserving to get their shot at the main event, and the WWE can't got wrong with any of them winning the case, but they certainly can go wrong with McIntyre. He was given a major push when he first came in, and just didn't take full advantage of it. It is time to give the other guys a shot at the push McIntyre already had.

 

[stilltippin]

Mcintyre better win MITB is all i have to say.. he has more potential in the ring, like punk was.. he blowed on ecw.. and win he was drafted to SD and feuded with hardy and taker.. he jumped him up! now if wwe can have him drop the two bozeO's he's with.. i would love to see Mcintyre V Punk one day.. Kofi Kingston is already popular enough to just jump in the spot light whenever wwe needs him too. Christian. NO. plz no. terrible guy. i use to be a big fan but no. lol nuff said. Swagger., got potential started his run a bit to early.

Mcintyre will be flaming come MITB!

 

[Luke Dawg]

1) Do you think Rey influenced the out come of this match, or do you think the dirt sheets exaggerated the politics behind this?

Absolutely. Rey Mysterio winning was illogical and makes no sense. Rey has been doing this for years, and WWE seriously over estimates his worth.

2) Would it of been worth it to let Rey pout, and continue Swaggers title reign?

Again, absolutely. Even if Rey threw a fit and took time off, the hole in the main even picture could have been filling with faces from smackdown's over crowded mid card picture (Christian, Kofi, MVP), plus Swagger could have had feuds with all of them, cementing his status as a great heel.

3) Do you feel Swagger needs to regain the title at the ppv this month?

If they are trying to make him the new Kurt Angle, yes. Plus after this weeks Smackdown and injury to Rey, if he loses cleanly he will look unbelievably week.

4) Is it possibly a smarter move to keep Rey as champion with rumors the WWE is trying to sell "little guys" in the Main event scene (Bourne, Kaval, Danielson, etc)

No because I think these guys get over anyway. Bourne always gets a huge pop, and The fans all love Kaval. These guys are credible, they don't need a Rey championship run to fix that.

5) Will you be upset if McIntyre pulls down the MITB briefcase next sunday?

Would I be upset.... No. Would I be disappointed that the best choice was not made; Yes. While I can see this happening, I think Cody Rhodes is a much better choice. In my opinion, the MITB is for a guy who WWE wants in the Main Event, but they need a little help to get there (ie; Punk, Edge back when he won it, and most recently Swagger). I simply do not think that Mcintyre needs that help. Have Mr. McMahon give him a shot, or win a number contenders match. He's already over, so he doesn't need to carry around a silly blue briefcase.

 

[The Vintage One]

Mcintyre better win MITB is all i have to say.. he has more potential in the ring, like punk was.. he blowed on ecw.. and win he was drafted to SD and feuded with hardy and taker.. he jumped him up! now if wwe can have him drop the two bozeO's he's with.. i would love to see Mcintyre V Punk one day.. Kofi Kingston is already popular enough to just jump in the spot light whenever wwe needs him too. Christian. NO. plz no. terrible guy. i use to be a big fan but no. lol nuff said. Swagger., got potential started his run a bit to early.

Mcintyre will be flaming come MITB!

I honestly have no clue what you just said, but McIntyre does not have more potential then Punk. McIntyre has absolutely no charisma and he is bland on the mic. The WWE gave him a great gimmick in being Vince McMahon's "chosen one" and did absolutely nothing with it. They pushed him straight to the top and then he came right back down. He isn't liked too much in the lockerroom and isn't special in anything he does in WWE. McIntyre should not win over Christian, Kofi, Punk, etc. As he simply does not deserve it and brings nothing to the table.

 

[SpoodBeest]

1) Do you think Rey influenced the out come of this match, or do you think the dirt sheets exaggerated the politics behind this?

He might have, but then again how do any of the people on this wrestling forum know? It's speculation, and for all we know it could be wrong, but it also could be true. Also I didn't hear of this Rey "bitching" story until people started posting about it on here. I'm not saying he didn't complain but we are all just inhaling the smell of speculation, so therefore we do not know what's true and what isn't. Nothing was confirmed it was merely just a rumor if anything else.

2) Would it of been worth it to let Rey pout, and continue Swaggers title reign?

No, because the WWE was not happy with Swagger's reign as champion. Going into Fatal 4 Way we knew we were going to get a new champion. We just didn't know who. I thought giving the belt to Rey Mysterio was a good move on the part of the WWE and i'm in a very small minority on this one. I thought giving the belt to SmackDown's top face at the moment (since Taker is injured) who can put on as many good matches as Mysterio can was a good thing. Apparently many on here don't agree with me. But hey i'm a fan of Mysterio so I guess i'm the biased one.

3) Do you feel Swagger needs to regain the title at the ppv this month?

I don't feel it's necessary, but they could certainly do that. Swagger has been on a role, having perhaps the most momentum he has had in his career the past three weeks by injuring Rey Mysterio and The Big Show (SD's two top faces) with his newly debuted Ankle Lock. Having him use this new weapon to dethrone Rey Mysterio at MITB would only add more to his recent momentum.

4) Is it possibly a smarter move to keep Rey as champion with rumors the WWE is trying to sell "little guys" in the Main event scene (Bourne, Kaval, Danielson, etc)

I believe that Rey will hold onto the belt until SummerSlam at least. He may even hold onto it longer than that, but i think he will be taking a backseat to The Undertaker once his old carcass heals up again.

5) Will you be upset if McIntyre pulls down the MITB briefcase next sunday?

I would be very upset, McIntyre is terrible. Nothing about him is good. You know you truly suck when you get pushed to the highest spot of the midcard and billed as Mr. McMahon's chosen one only to fade back down to where you started. He can't work to save his life, he is boring to listen too, and he can't get a crowd reaction at all. The crowd has never given a shit about Drew McIntyre. I believe management isn't as high on him as they were as well. So it would be a real "derp" moment for them to give McIntyre a second chance when he already blew it the first time. When others like Kofi Kingston deserve this victory so much more.

Also on another note I accidently voted for "Swagger fizzling out" I did not mean to choose that option if anything McIntyre has been "fizzling" out for months. Where as Swagger is beginning to gain some momentum from the debut of his new Ankle Lock and progressive mean streak.

 

[dotty_84]

I think Rey did have an influence with his moaning.

I really don't think Swagger is fizzling out, his ankle locks on the top two faces have done him greatly. Really liking Swagger i couldn't believe he won MITB at WM but to his credit he's done well and still think it's a good message that a guy who has the lisp has done well on the belt WWE usually want everything perfect but they didn't let the lisp hold him back.

I don't think he'll regain the belt i can't see Rey losing it till Summerslam.

McIntyre i think recently he's done alot better promos and in matches, pairing him Hardy is utterly useless Hardy bores the hell out of me, if it wasn't for the Hardy Boys or Jeff he'd be long forgotten.
Drew just needs to get some better moves instead of brawling although his back punches are a little different to other wrestlers.

 

[Future Endeavors]

1) Do you think Rey influenced the out come of this match, or do you think the dirt sheets exaggerated the politics behind this?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Rey played the influence card. Friday, Jack all but tears off Rey's leg and beats him with it which makes it clear to me there are two likely outcomes at Money in the Bank. A = Jack is going to beat Rey but it'll look like Jack only wins because Rey's leg is gone. B = Rey manages to magically overcome his injury to defeat Jack. Both of these outcomes weigh heavily in Rey's favor.

2) Would it of been worth it to let Rey pout, and continue Swaggers title reign?

I think Swagger's title reign needed to be stopped and restarted. It was badly booked with all of those clean non-title losses. The addition of the ankle lock is working and I'm curious to see what'll happen with Swagger over the next few months. Personally I'd rather have seen Punk get the belt but I don't mind Rey if it doesn't last six months.

3) Do you feel Swagger needs to regain the title at the ppv this month?

I wouldn't say he needs it but I wouldn't mind him getting it back. Of course I still think the two scenarios I mentioned earlier are likely and either one makes Jack look weak.

4) Is it possibly a smarter move to keep Rey as champion with rumors the WWE is trying to sell "little guys" in the Main event scene (Bourne, Kaval, Danielson, etc)

They don't have a lot of choices right now. If they want a face champ then Rey is about it on Smackdown. Kofi could step up but he's got the IC right now, Big Show is boring and would have little competition, and nobody else really seems likely. I personally would like to see Rey hold on long enough to drop the belt to a heel Christian.

5) Will you be upset if McIntyre pulls down the MITB briefcase next sunday?

I'd be disappointed but not surprised. I don't see or want McIntyre as champ in the next year. He's lost a lot of his momentum and the crowd never really does seem to give a crap about him. I'd rather see a heel Christian win MiTB and turn that into gold later. I would however take McIntyre as MiTB winner before I'd suckle at the poison teat of "Dashing" Cody Rhodes, darling of the IWC.

 

[The Calgary Kid]

I feel as though this new "mean streak" for Swagger could benefit him, at least in the long-term, if not immediately. Perhaps WWE recognizes that they booked him atrociously during his reign and are trying to justify his run by exhibiting his upside in a different way. I don't think he was ready for the main event and was pretty shocked that they gave it to him so early. I thought he was due (perhaps overdue) for a mid-card title push and was both surprised and intrigued when he won the briefcase. Hindsight being 20/20, of course, they should have had him hold onto the briefcase for a while in order to build him up so that his cash-in could seem real, not as a fluke for a guy who wasn't ready and seemingly "proved" that in his W/L record while he held the strap.

As for McIntyre, yes, I will absolutely be upset if he wins the briefcase. Since first seeing him, I have been unable to find a reason for his push to be justified. He is completely devoid of charisma, rubbish on the mic, doesn't look intimidating and wrestles not a great deal better than the Divas. It also came at the expense of Morrison, for whom a longer reign with the IC title would have heightened his credibility and wouldn't have left him floundering in obscurity like he has been since then (their no DQ match was the worst of that stip that I have ever seen, btw). I'm not sure how much credence to give to the story that Rey lobbied for Ziggler to be held back, but even with that, if any competitor for JoMo was a realistic and justifiable threat, it would have been him.

Compare McIntyre to Sheamus, who was also the recipient of a premature rise. Sheamus has never been fantastic on the mic (though his recent promos have been quite good) and is boring in the ring, but at least looks intimidating and has shown signs of improvement. They have both had a lot (IMO, too much) handed to them, and Drew has done practically nothing with it. Personally speaking, I severely dislike this trend of throwing titles at guys who have barely been around for a few weeks, while talented guys who have paid their dues for several years (a prime example being Christian) are sitting around rotting, wasting their prime years. The least WWE could do would be to make the choices for these random guys seem credible.

 

[stilltippin]

I honestly have no clue what you just said, but McIntyre does not have more potential then Punk. McIntyre has absolutely no charisma and he is bland on the mic. The WWE gave him a great gimmick in being Vince McMahon's "chosen one" and did absolutely nothing with it. They pushed him straight to the top and then he came right back down. He isn't liked too much in the lockerroom and isn't special in anything he does in WWE. McIntyre should not win over Christian, Kofi, Punk, etc. As he simply does not deserve it and brings nothing to the table.

lol sorry i was hammered when i typed that XD.

But i never said mcintyre has more potential than punk.. i said he has alot of potential like punk did when hardy carried him...and i didnt say McIntyre deserved to win more than punk cuz punk isn't even in the ladder match.. i just said he should win over christian, kane, and hardy.. i would be a little upset if kofi won but hey hes probably actually the best performer in that match.. so i wouldnt be that upset if he won.

I just think Mcintyre has that world champ look more than anyone.. and like cm punk he needs a person whos established to bring him up.. like undertaker.. Mcintyre can win MITB, cash it in on swagger or mysterio and then face taker and summerslam.. and that would give him time to become established a bit more and get more technical in the ring and him and taker could have a decent match.. i personally would rather see mcintyre vs taker then kofi vs taker. But i think we all know that Kofi or McIntyre will win SD's MITB.

just my two cent worth XD..

 

[KennedyKennedy]

1) Do you think Rey influenced the out come of this match, or do you think the dirt sheets exaggerated the politics behind this?

I don't believe that Rey directly said he wanted a bigger push and title run but I believe that creative decided to give him it in order to please him. As I remember, not long ago, Rey was not happy with the E and was considering not renewing his contract. I believe this title run is just really to keep Mysterio happy and is more creative's decision then ReyReys. I don't believe Rey would have left whether he had won the title or not, a big name like him must earn a lot, but I guess the WWE weren't too confident so maybe there was more going on behind the curtains. Or maybe this is just a reward for Rey for his years of work. Either way, creative had no problems putting the title on Rey due to his popularity with the target market (the kids) and their apparent lack of confidence in Swagger's reign (which I really don't get, I think he was an awesome champ and was really digging his reign).

2) Would it of been worth it to let Rey pout, and continue Swaggers title reign?

I really do wish they let Swagger keep the title. Like I said, I thought he was a great young talent and really digged his reign. I really don't understand why creative changes their minds about him at the drop of a dime. The reactions he has been getting as of late have been incredible. I remember one promo when he had to wait several minutes until he could talk due the the amount of heat he was getting. Whilst Rey has been unhappy in recent months, I do not believe he would have actually left, Mysterio is no Hardy. Rey has been with WWE for years, is incredibly over with the kids and has terrific work ethic. I don't believe that he would have quit had he continued in the upper-midcard spot he was in before. Additionally, Swagger would have been able to continue to ride the wave of momentum that he has had since cashing in that briefcase. Overall I feel keeping the title on Swagger would have continued to put over with the crowd as a legitimate main event heel whilst putting the title on Mysterio has not done much as he was already over and doesn't really need the title.

3) Do you feel Swagger needs to regain the title at the ppv this month?

Whilst this would be beneficial to Swagger, I think the damage has already been done and taking it off Rey after a month and one defense would hurt him aswell. Besides, it's too early at this point to make Jack a two time world champion (three if you count ECW), I hated when they gave Sheamus two world title reigns within his debut year. I think that Rey should retain this sunday, perhaps having Kane attack Swagger to further their feud. After sunday, Jack shouldn't challenge for the world title unti lhe has established himself more on Smackdown, but he should be kept in a main event spot on the card to continue his momentum by making him feud with people such as Kane, Undertaker, Big Show, Christian and Kofi.

4) Is it possibly a smarter move to keep Rey as champion with rumors the WWE is trying to sell "little guys" in the Main event scene (Bourne, Kaval, Danielson, etc)

Whilst it helps the crowd buy into the idea of "little guys" in the main event, I feel this can be achieved without Rey being world champ. Guys like Kaval and Bourne don't need someone else to prove they can hang around at the top of the card. If they want to prove they belong in the main event then are more then capable of proving that they can put on terrific matches against the likes of Orton, Cena and Edge. Hell, guys like Jericho, Punk and Rey have already done their part in paving the way for any smaller guys who are making their way to the main event. All in all, if WWE wants to show if a wrestler can be world champion, he doesn't need someone of the same size to show it's possible, he needs to show the world that he has the skill and ability to do so himself.

5) Will you be upset if McIntyre pulls down the MITB briefcase next sunday?

I'm still not completely sold on McIntyre. I think he has good promo skills shown by his feud with Hardy and Long, but something about the guy just bores the hell out of me. Perhaps he will grow on me, time will tell. As for your question, I wouldn't be upset if McIntyre won the MitB this sunday. I love the recent surge of youth in the rosters and if guys like Triple H, Shawn Michaels and Vince McMahon see something big in this guy then I'm pretty sure then he will be big. His ring skills seem ok and surely he can only get better. An issue he has though is I remember hearing he has a bit of an attitude issue backstage. If this is true then I don't want to see him get pushed, egos can ruin great wrestlers, whilst this guy isn't great, he sure has potential. Anyway, to cap this off, I wouldn't mind Drew winning the MitB, I feel that perhaps it would be better off giving it to someone who is more ready.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

I'm not sure that Swagger was ever really "on fire". Don't get me wrong, Swagger is a great talent. There's nobody better in the ring, but the guy is just god-awful boring. No, not to watch, but to listen to. But mic skills often translate into the ring work. If a guy is boring outside of the ring, he's not going to be that enthusiastic inside of the ring. But, Swagger has potential. He's been World Champion, so you know they're willing to give him the push. But he's in serious need of some good acting lessons.

I'm a fan of Drew McIntyre. He's also not the most exciting guy in the world, but he's viscous. He's a bad dude, and was extremely believable in his work against Teddy Long. Again, McIntyre's not really "on fire" but he's getting there. I think he's got a future, but...not yet.

I don't think either of these guys are "on fire" or fizzling... There just hanging in the balance.