Super Smackdown Or RAW Supershow?

[Hunted-RKO]

In your opinion which was the better show of the two?Personally I would choose Super Smackdown,I did like RAW but I realy enjoyed SD,there were only a few let downs on the show but overall a good show.The Main Event was a PPV worthy Main Event,Conract Signing was great and added more tention and answers to the Punk/HHH/Nash Angle,also it was good to not have the same boring Contract signing.The Cena Promo was.....Decent.I enjoyed it when he starting talking serious and took the piss out of Ricardo but the rest was a bit cheesy.I didn't understand the match when he squashed Barret who is the guy who took Cena to the LIMIT last year?That was a bit of a let down,aswell as the sheamus match but it was good when Sheamus overcome Khali&Mahel and looked strong.Wanted to see Jackson involved in it someone some way but never mind.The Cara/DB match was a good bout and the so called 'Cara Heel Turn' was intresting but there probly building for Mistico to return and reveal it was not him,I was expecting DB to attack him as soon as Cara turn't round after the Handshake,but was a good match.I was a bit disapointed Cody wasn't on the Show but then it was A SUPERSHOW and there putting there top stars onto get a spot on a Tuesday to avoid UFC.Good show overall and I think it just edged RAW.

So in your mind which was the bettter Show?

 

[SteelRevenge]

are you insane. . .. . . .

SS was a disaster!

please tell me what was so good about it bc aside from the commercials I don`t see it.

Okay I`ll give you the Sin vs Bryan match bc there were a few good spots and interesting ending, but left me thnking it was too short concerning these are suppose to be two of the best in the ring on the show.

Khalis vs Sheamus just made me think of what they did a mere few weeks ago with no story or titles behind it. And no I don`t see something forming being as the next PPv is NoC.

likewise the punk with triple h thing is just getting too much airtime and frankly when they made the announcement for a contract signing I was like deja vu without the cena.

Add to that the DD pick up another meaningless tag win and you have a succession of repeated events. Its like creative hit the snooze button and called up stuff from a few weeks ago.

the opening segement was a complete joke. they could`ve copied raw and yes would have recieved criticism for mirroring them but a good 10-15 min match between cena and their Ic champ would have actually earned the name of a second ME. instead they put barrett in there who is almost as bad as cena in the ring and the thing lasts as long as a squash match.

Also aside from cena, punk, and a brief promo by the new tag champs, no raw superstars were utilized so I don`t see how it being a supershow should have effected it.

The only other good thing about the night was their one true ME for which I will give mad props for, even the ending with henry. I won`t go on bc there wasn`t anything bad about it.

in the end they made poor use of the raw talent supposeably there and yet still failed at showing the usual talent seen on SD. the matches were few and short and the promos weren`t memorable which makes one wonder where the time went.

Finally the next PPV is NofC and aside from henry vs orton the show made no effort what so ever to propell storylines for said champs. .. .. the 2nd tier champ wasn`t even showcased for crying out loud! Houw does that say ``we care about our props- i mean our titles.``



So to answer the question Raw wins out with a fairly average show that at least featured the regular talent, some good matches, and included SD stars in a useful way.

 

[Skinsley]

Orton Vs Ziggler was a fantastic match I thought.
Although I re-watched the RKO plenty of times because I was certain that must have hurt Ziggler….and reports indicate I may have been right.
However Orton Vs Christian in a cage match was also a decent watch, even considering Christians constant attempts to escape prematurely.
Overall based on the ProMo’s SuperRawShow thingy was the better watch.

(This weeks TNA was the best show of the week…..HA HA TNawfull.)

 

[Hunted-RKO]

are you insane. . .. . . .

SS was a disaster!

please tell me what was so good about it bc aside from the commercials I don`t see it.

Okay I`ll give you the Sin vs Bryan match bc there were a few good spots and interesting ending, but left me thnking it was too short concerning these are suppose to be two of the best in the ring on the show.

Khalis vs Sheamus just made me think of what they did a mere few weeks ago with no story or titles behind it. And no I don`t see something forming being as the next PPv is NoC.

likewise the punk with triple h thing is just getting too much airtime and frankly when they made the announcement for a contract signing I was like deja vu without the cena.

Add to that the DD pick up another meaningless tag win and you have a succession of repeated events. Its like creative hit the snooze button and called up stuff from a few weeks ago.

the opening segement was a complete joke. they could`ve copied raw and yes would have recieved criticism for mirroring them but a good 10-15 min match between cena and their Ic champ would have actually earned the name of a second ME. instead they put barrett in there who is almost as bad as cena in the ring and the thing lasts as long as a squash match.

Also aside from cena, punk, and a brief promo by the new tag champs, no raw superstars were utilized so I don`t see how it being a supershow should have effected it.

The only other good thing about the night was their one true ME for which I will give mad props for, even the ending with henry. I won`t go on bc there wasn`t anything bad about it.

in the end they made poor use of the raw talent supposeably there and yet still failed at showing the usual talent seen on SD. the matches were few and short and the promos weren`t memorable which makes one wonder where the time went.

Finally the next PPV is NofC and aside from henry vs orton the show made no effort what so ever to propell storylines for said champs. .. .. the 2nd tier champ wasn`t even showcased for crying out loud! Houw does that say ``we care about our props- i mean our titles.``



So to answer the question Raw wins out with a fairly average show that at least featured the regular talent, some good matches, and included SD stars in a useful way.

I have always been a Smackdown guy to be honest.Thats just your oninion and your saying it like EVERYONE will agree with you?The contract signing was great and i dont know how you can argue about that,The promo wasn't a JOKE it was DECENT.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Generally speaking, I enjoyed the Raw Supershow more than Super SmackDown!.

On Raw, Randy Orton vs. Dolph Ziggler & CM Punk vs. The Miz were both great matches. The show did feel somewhat rushed and chaotic, which did hurt it some. I liked the interaction with Punk & Triple H and the tag team main event was a solid match.

On SmackDown!, it was just a weird show. There was simply too much Raw for SuperSmackDown! in my view. The first 20 minutes of the show were pretty sucky. It was "SuperCena" at his worst. The promo sucked and his match with Barrett was a huge disappointment. Barrett looked like a chump in a glorified 3.5 minute squash match. Sin Cara vs. Daniel Bryan was solid but it was more unusual booking in my view. If Sin Cara was going to go heel, why not have him cheat to beat Bryan instead of going over clean in a 5 minute match? Bryan's taken Del Rio & Christian to the limit but he loses to Sin Cara in 5 minutes? For the first time since winning MITB, Daniel Bryan looked weak. Sheamus vs. Khali wasn't great but I liked it because Sheamus looked like a beast. The contract signing was a great verbal exchange but it ran much too long and the main event was another awesome outing between Christian & Randy Orton. Without the contract signing and the main event, SmackDown! would've been a completely horrible show last night.

 

[Lord_Frish]

This was the worst Smackdown I've seen in a long time.

Why did Cena punch Riccardo? I just makes Cena look like a jerk and a medieval British King killing the messenger. Sure it won Cena a cheap pop and it was nice to see Riccardo cut a promo, he was good at it.

Wade Barrett vs Cena was bad, Cena didn't need the win Barrett didn't seem like a credible contender. I have no idea why this match was even booked. The match only did one thing and that was make Barrett look very weak, he was hit by less offense than most people in a Cena fight and lost. I'm not bashing Cena's 5 moves of Doom but I think he only used 3 of them to put Barrett down. Barrett lost all the momentum he gained from his match against DB at Summerslam

I know this wasn't their fault, but Del Rio wasn't there when his match with Sin Cara had received more hype than the Main Event.

Daniel Bryan vs Sin Cara, it was a decent match but both could and have done better already. It sucks that DB is on a losing streak but that usually comes along with holding the MitB, The Miz had the same problem last year. The match didn't really do anything for either involved but it was fine. The heel turn was kinda interesting but not enough for me to really care about it, I would have liked it if Cara took his mask off since it looks like we'll have evil Cara vs good Cara.

AirBoom get an interview, that is nice and all but who exactly are they going to fight in the quest to revive the Tag division?

Natalya and Beth finally got a match and finally won a match. These two have needed a win over a credible diva (lol) since the rivalry began and about 3 weeks later they finally get it.

Why was Teddy Long hosting the contract signing? All he did was say here is Triple H then showed us his Human Statue technique for about 15 minutes. I don't really have a problem with this segment though. I mean the fact that they had a contract signing made no sense but at least Punk pointed that out. The run in by Nash was nice. nWo music playing as Big Sexy clears out the ring, nice flashback.

Sheamus dominated the Great Khali and Jinder Mahal. Not overly good for Sheamus since Khali has lost to everyone and their grandmother recently, Jinder got involved and was made to look weak. I guess that is what they are going for though. I would like to see what Jinder can do.

Orton vs Christian was good enough, too bad it felt decided from the start and Mark Henry not having a match made the after match beat down far too obvious.

Now that I have looked at what was on the card, which I admit was alright nothing amazing though, I will have a look at what was not on the card.

Where was Cody Rhodes? The Intercontinental Champ who wants to revive the titles image. His story with DiBiase was developing nicely last week and now there is no sign of him. He'll be on Superstars I guess... where WWE won't let his story change until he gets more SD screen time. In fact you could ask where 90% of the Smackdown roster was. Zeke follows up a torture rack on the Great Khali with getting lost in the influx of Raw talent. Justin Gabriel and Tyson Kidd's mini feud had no chance of continuing. I mean at least Raw carried on most of the stories they had been building.

Raw used the Smackdown talent to push forward their own stories, Smackdown used Raw talent to try and get ratings.

 

[hollowpoint]

I voted the Raw Supershow was better simply because the SD! Supershow did nothing to develop any storyline except for the WHC between Henry/Orton. Like a poster above said. SD! used Raw Superstars to get ratings at the expense of furthering storylines and creating programs. None of the matches with the SD! Superstars made sense. On Raw, Orton/Ziggler was a great match and Miz/Punk was a good match. Throw in a good tag team main event and you got a great show. SD! had a bunch of squash matches and gave Raw the nod to further it's main story. I like both shows, but it's obvious what was going on. I just hoped it worked the way they projected it to.

 

[katz1983]

guys and girls this was just a test run if they do better then they will do it every tuesday give it time yeah some matches were good some were bad but it was to see if people were to watch it and would they care type deal so if the ratings keep up we will see SD LIVE every tuesday witch i hope it does it will be a nice change

 

[Skinsley]

One thing I have to add though. In both of these matches Orton instead of his opponent conveniently rolling under the ropes for the DDT.... Now throws his opponent through the ropes to make the DDT.
This is a HUGE improvement on Ortons moveset in my eyes.
Something I have even TWEETED him about very recently and he has done it! (by chance not because I mentioned it too him lol)

 

[evilashv02]

First off, I just wanna say I'm actually a wrestling fan and watch it because I like it, not to bash it or to act like I'm so much better than it. Now that's out of the way, I'm going with Smackdown. I did enjoy the matches, but the Punk/Triple H/Nash promo and the Orton vs Christian steel cage match was awesome and better than Raw just for those reasons. Raw was good, don't get me wrong, but that promo and that steel cage match is what wrestling is all about. So that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it..

 

[Lord_Frish]

Isn't everyone here a wrestling fan? I think everyone here watches it because they like it. That doesn't mean we can't critique a show. I still watched all of Super SD. I don't feel like it was a waste of time, I just would have preferred it to be done differently. I was enjoying Smackdown more than Raw until this week.

 

[hollowpoint]

I think this show was more of the exception than the rule. I don't think it will be the status quo for SD!. Even though it was a SuperShow, I think for the weeks to come it will focus more on the SD! Superstars than Raw. It seemed to be a business move and nothing more. The thing I like about SD! is that it seems to focus a little more on the in-ring action and less on everything else. Maybe i'm wrong, but it just seems that way to me. No real pomp and circumstances, just action. Both shows to me are entertaining and I watch them both, but they each have their own style.

 

[JeffTheRef]

I'm REALLY getting tired of these "contract signings". What I dislike about CM punk's character is that at the last contract signing he pointed out how useless these are and how they ALWAYS end up in the table being thrown aside and a fight breaking out, yet he still takes part. He wants change, yet he's willing to be part of the same exact display time and time again.

 

[Bill.]

Neither. Just call them Raw & Smackdown, & handle the roster like they did in early 2002 before the draft. Just keep Raw main eventers on Raw & SD main eveners on SD, except for TV specials or something. This means that John Cena shouldn't show up on SD in the main event like he does on Raw. Vise versa for Randy Orton.

 

[4realpeoples]

I did enjoy SuperSmackDown more than I did Raw Supershow. What I noticed was that Raw was slightly SmackDown heavy and that SmackDown was slightly Raw heavy. If you're going to promote a "super" of your show, then showcase only the talent of your brand.

SmackDown could have had Cody Rhodes beat Zack Ryder in a squash Intercontinental Title match instead of having Cena destroy Barrett. That would have made more people happy. Match of the night goes to the Steel Cage Championship Match. But SuperSmackDown showcased more wrestling than Raw which gave it the edge in my opinion.

Raw was a lot of talk, like normal. Nothing really different about Raw. We saw a lot of SmackDown faces. That was the only change I saw. And once again, the match of the night goes to the Randy Orton match. Ziggler looked strong in that match. I enjoyed seeing a competitive match on Raw.

Those are my opinions and you all have yours. Don't get offended because someone else enjoys the other show more.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Raw Supershow was the better of the two. Smackdown specials when the Raw guys cross over just never have the same feel that is seen when Smackdown guys come over to Raw. I liked how the addition of Smackdown guys on Raw's Supershow made it have an oldschool feel, the way it was in the good old days when only one brand existed and everyone appeared on Raw. The red brand has more history and prestige than the blue brand, so having everyone appear on Raw automatically seems more special due to that. Raw has lacked a big feeling for a few years now and not lived up to its potential during the brand extension, but now as the Raw Supershow it will be able to do just that.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

Both had great matches, good promos, and carried feuds into the next PPV. It's a pretty hard call but I have to go with Smackdown because of the Orton/Christian match alone. The Triple H/Punk segment was pretty solid as well.