Straight Edge Mystery Man ---- How much longer do we have to wait?

[Super Crazy]

This is a question I'm sure many of you ask yourselves week after week. This character first debuted when CM Punk began feuding with Rey Mysterio and week after week, would help assault Rey and help give the SES the upper hand. I'm assuming at some point they were planning on having him show his face throughout that feud, but it just never seemed to happen.

Right now, he still helps Punk and the SES, and he has yet to be revealed. In my opinion this angle, or the potential reveal, has fizzled out, as we almost know this guy will appear now when Punk is losing terribly. I would love to see who it is once and for all, but at the same time I just don't really care anymore.

So my question here is how do you guys feel about this? Do you care if he gets revealed now? Do you think this has been too drawn out?

 

[Goliath Uterus]

You know, the other night when I was high, I thought of making this thread. I forgot till now but you bring up a great point. Why the fuck haven't they revealed this guy yet? I mean seriously, I doubt anyone cares who it is anymore, he's just a part of the group as.......... The Masked Man.

And when he takes his mask off and its Joey Mercury(or whoever it is), who's gonna give a shit. No ones gonna recognize him and he'll get zero crowd reaction, it'll be like "oh, wow that dude that had the mask just turned out being some bald guy". This angle has lost so much steam its not funny, I say they either (re)build up some steam for this angle, or just have him take the mask off and get it over with.

 

[TSG]

You know, the other night when I was high, I thought of making this thread. I forgot till now but you bring up a great point. Why the fuck haven't they revealed this guy yet? I mean seriously, I doubt anyone cares who it is anymore, he's just a part of the group as.......... The Masked Man.

And when he takes his mask off and its Joey Mercury(or whoever it is), who's gonna give a shit. No ones gonna recognize him and he'll get zero crowd reaction, it'll be like "oh, wow that dude that had the mask just turned out being some bald guy". This angle has lost so much steam its not funny, I say they either (re)build up some steam for this angle, or just have him take the mask off and get it over with.

I think that you have it right Angel. The whole angle has lost much steam in itself and I don't think anybody cares anymore. I think the angle needs some serious rebuilding and I think I have got the perfect way to do it.

One night The Masked Man interferes in Punk's match to help, but Punks opponet fends him off. Then from behind a second masked man comes out of the crowd and attack Punk's opponet. These leads up to the debut of a new tag team (whoever is ready for it, I guess) to a faltering tag team division. Then they can go after the tag titles, Gallows can be built and go after the IC Title, Serena can ge the Women's Title, Punk wins the World Title, and we have a dominating stable dedicated to saving SD!

Of course, having all the titles is, and make sure you read this, optional, but I think a tag team would really complete the stable and make it better, and it would be a good way to revitalize the masked man angle. And that is really the whole point here, right?

 

[Scotty]

I think at this point they should just write the mask into part of the character. It has been stated that he has lost so much steam, which he has, they should just give him a name and a theme song and let it go. If they work it into his character, we wouldn't have to worry about him losing steam the longer he doesn't unmask.

 

[J-Dogg]

This going the same way the limo driver for Nexus, its obviously a random guy, just being apart of the SES, if he's mask comes off he likely won't get a reaction, and if its Joey Mercury, no one will remember him except for older fans.

 

[Big Sexy]

Hopefully not too much longer. It seems like creative just doesn't really know what to do with this guy or angle in general so he keeps making the random attacks and nothing more. I've lost pretty much all interest in whoever this person is so hopefully they can salvage this.

 

[Theo Mays]

If they don't unveil who it is in the next coming weeks then I believe they will just stick to him being a mask superstars who aids Punk. If they continue with the whole mask thing, the least they can do is actually let the guy fight. I believe he has fought at house shows, so why not just have him fight on TV. And with the news that Punk underwent some sort of arm surgery (just saw it on the main page) it makes sense for the masked guy to start getting some action alongside Gallows. Maybe have Punk unveil him in some sort of ceremony to try and make us care who this man is and if it is Mercury then it is what we expected and if it is someone else then it creates a mini buzz on who the guy is.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

For all I care, they might as well leave the mask on him and have Gallows where a mask as well..I'm sure their faces are too pure for us to see who is behind them...lol

When he does reveal himself to be Mercury, I will not care...if they ahd revealed him during the Rey feud, then I would have cared!!!

 

[TheOneBigWill]

For what its worth, why does he need to be revealed? I mean, I get the suspense and the slowly lack there-of. However doesn't anyone feel in some way that maybe it'd be better to leave him masked?

Before I list of any number of reasons why its best to leave him masked, how about I simply point out the best reason why he shouldn't be unmasked.

Joey Mercury: While anything can change, and the character could end up someone else. Rumors say its him. If this is the case, then going this far without unmasking him has already caused too much damage - because it'll be more of an anticlimactic ending that anything I could think of.

Anyone who recalls him, beyond those who've followed him in ECW, are going to know him as John Morrison's forgetful partner. And more importantly - the Marty Jannetty of their team that did nothing and went no where.

So, in my opinion it'd be better served to keep the mask ON rather than remove it.. as it will always still leave some symbolise of a greater power helping Punk, than that of a lesser half to a Tag team, once upon a time.

 

[J-Dogg]

Thats how i feel Will, no one now remembers him especially the younger fans, if it is Joey then he'll be forgotten in a period of time, like it be too late to reveal him because there is nowhere to go with him now. And i sure have forgotten about the masked man and Joey for that matter.

 

[Dave]

Thats how i feel Will, no one now remembers him especially the younger fans, if it is Joey then he'll be forgotten in a period of time, like it be too late to reveal him because there is nowhere to go with him now. And i sure have forgotten about the masked man and Joey for that matter.

So what?

No one remembers that Sheamus acted as security for the WWE, along with David Otunga. No one remembers that John Morrison was actually Johnny Nitro and the same would be true of the SES Mystery Man. If no one remembers him, then he is likely to do a lot better than if people did remember him. As part of MNM, I thought he was completely underrated and although Morrison got the eventual push, I thought that Mercury could have done a lot more with himself. The WWE obviously see some promise in him if they are thinking about him being the SES Mystery Man. They are putting him along with one of the best stables in recent history and giving him enough momentum that he could pull off being a hell if and when he debuts.

If no remembers him, then it makes it so much easier for him to make a clean break. No one would be biased about MNM and will go on the achievements that he would accomplish as the new member of the SES. As for him being forgotten in a period of time, of course he would… If he is given nothing to work with. It is the same scenario for anyone in the WWE. If you have no gimmick and nothing to make you stand out from the crowd, then you are not long for the WWE. Look at Straight Edge member Luke Gallows for a great example of this. A year ago, he was fucking Festus! He was a nobody and since the SES was set up, he has actually become relevant and because of that, he could go on after the SES is done.

The same could be true of Joey Mercury, if that is indeed who it is. The SES is one of the most interesting angles running right now and tossing him into that mix will instantly get him over as a heel. I say let him run with it and see where it goes. If he fails, then he fails. If he is smart and can run with a gimmick, then he could potentially have another lease on life in the WWE. I say unmask him and don’t leave him floating around in obscurity. By unmasking him, you give the fans a face to the name and something for them to latch on to.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

If they're going to keep him masked, he should have more of a prominent role. I don't think too many people are intrigued as to who this mystery person is. Your average fan has a short attention span so if he is unmasked, he's not going to be instantly recognized. I believe this would be so much better if Morrison was still on Smackdown so they can reveal it to be Mercury but a guy can dream. They'll keep him masked for now.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

So what?

This.. .. is what.

No one remembers that Sheamus acted as security for the WWE,

I do.

along with David Otunga.

Okay, you got me on this one. I thought he was just engaged. For a while, I thought it was to the same chic MVP was going to Prom's with. Still not fully convinced it isn't the same, to be honest.

No one remembers that John Morrison was actually Johnny Nitro

Except anyone who's been a fan since, what, 2007? Cause that was such a long time ago.

and the same would be true of the SES Mystery Man. If no one remembers him, then he is likely to do a lot better than if people did remember him.

See, the problem with this is.. just because you change your gimmick, alter your name, and fade away to being forgotten.. all of that doesn't magically give you the charisma, and ability to become better than you were before.

And the problem with that is, you don't get younger. He's going on 31 yrs old.

As part of MNM, I thought he was completely underrated and although Morrison got the eventual push, I thought that Mercury could have done a lot more with himself.

I wholeheartedly agree. Back then there was plenty of guys to re-form useless tag teams with. Which is all Mercury is good for. He's a vet, he helped Morrison learn as he went. (which is another reason why Morrison has rough edges with promo skills, in my opinion)

At most, all Mercury will ever be, is a co-star in someone else's lead performance.

The WWE obviously see some promise in him if they are thinking about him being the SES Mystery Man.

That doesn't mean they see promise in him. That means they feel he could work well with Luke, so Punk doesn't have to continue dwelling in tag matches. And by adding a new member, it makes this team - a trio. (or counting the girl, a group)

They are putting him along with one of the best stables in recent history

I wouldn't say one of the best, more like one of the better thought out ones.

and giving him enough momentum that he could pull off being a hell if and when he debuts.

As.. something other than the Mystery guy? I can almost guarantee he'll be nothing better than the guy who looked better under the mask, attacking people from behind.

If no remembers him, then it makes it so much easier for him to make a clean break. No one would be biased about MNM and will go on the achievements that he would accomplish as the new member of the SES.

You'd think considering he isn't likely to upstage Punk and become a co-single's wrestler, that he's being brought in to possibly team with Fes..err, Luke. Which means you'd WANT to focus on his past as Mercury, a former multi-time Tag Team Champion.

As for him being forgotten in a period of time, of course he would… If he is given nothing to work with.

Everyone is given something to work with. Its how you use it, that determines if you'll last.

Look at Straight Edge member Luke Gallows for a great example of this. A year ago, he was fucking Festus!

Well that doesn't sound very Straight Edge at all. Infact, in some states that could be frowned upon.

He was a nobody and since the SES was set up, he has actually become relevant and because of that, he could go on after the SES is done.

I just want to share this with you.

As Festus: He was going toe-to-toe with the Undertaker, and making people believe he could win because he had this almost equally super-natural strength, given to him by the sound of a ring bell.

As Luke Gallows: He's beaten who? He's done what? He's come close to doing what? He's nothing more than Punk's bodyguard. That doesn't sound like its much of a step up.

The same could be true of Joey Mercury, if that is indeed who it is. The SES is one of the most interesting angles running right now and tossing him into that mix will instantly get him over as a heel.

Or cause the fans to not care at all, since beyond Punk they could care less.

I say let him run with it and see where it goes. If he fails, then he fails. If he is smart and can run with a gimmick, then he could potentially have another lease on life in the WWE.

I hope that life comes complete with an insurance policy. Because I doubt it'll last very long.

I say unmask him and don’t leave him floating around in obscurity. By unmasking him, you give the fans a face to the name and something for them to latch on to.

And by keeping the mask on him, you don't tarnish the mystique of who it could be. While you give up the right to connect the past Tag Team reigns he's had.. you accept giving him a true new lease on life, without anyone understanding who you truly are.

Again, he isn't likely to become better than Punk. And I highly doubt they'll even want him becoming a single's wrestler, so much more than another protector of Punk, and a team-mate of Gallows. So, leaving the mask on feels better than taking it off and completely giving up any mystery to who it is.

 

[J-Dogg]

I've forgotten about Joey for the reason that they haven't revealed him sooner, and yes he did/does have ability and all that, but most younger fans especially kids that are watching now, may have only been watching WWE since 2007, so they won't know him. Its a shame people forget wrestlers who come back, but as you say Dave it gives them a clean start.

 

[Kip The Fury]

I was thinking about this recently and like everyone said previously the angle has totally lost all steam but... what if the writers have realised that revealing Joey Mercury as the Masked stranger would get an almighty "meh" from the fans. What if their going to pull a Suicide (Christopher Daniels/Kazarian) and swap out Joey mercury for a bigger name and gain a bigger reaction when they are eventually revealed... Cody Rhodes was rumored to be joining the SES... They could still bring Joey mercury back in a different angle later on but as it is now, theres not going to be much of a fan reaction.

 

[The Crock]

They need to make the masked man more relevant before unmasking him. They should have his attacks be more frequent and maybe put him in a bigger role. THEN, unmask him. They can still salvage this angle they just need to pump some life into this mystery man. I also hope that they keep Joey Mercury under the mask I always thougt he was a good all around wrestler.

 

[Unsold Bacon]

I was only wondering who the asked man was until a few weeks after Extreme Rules, I honestly don't care anymore and when or maybe even if they reveal who is under the mask all I will be able to say is 'Meh' unless it's like Stone Cold or some shit like that.They shouldn't put this angle to rest a long time ago.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

He's been under that mask for a while now, so I don't think WWE is going to reveal him, because even if they did, who would care? Mercury has been pretty irrelevant in WWE ever since the days of MNM, and the ladder incident, so I'm not sure the fans would care all that much if he reveals himself. Maybe WWE should just keep Mercury under the mask? It will add more mystery to the SES. Besides, I don't what WWE would have planned for Mercury if he's kicked out of the SES some how or that stable comes to an end. Because I can't see him being a upper mid card guy on Smackdown, and if he's on his own, then there's a chance he could be released again.

 

[Undying777]

It dos not matter anymore. I think they should just keep the mask on him and give him a name. They should build him as the hitman of the SES or something.

Punks hair is most likely grown in enough to remove his mask. I don't think they plan to have two mask members in the SES. I also don't think they plan for Punk to be under his mask for the next year. He has the best face expressions. It would be a shame to hide them.

 

[Hawkeye]

Everyone's said the same thing and I agree.Cat's been around since extreme rules and they haven't unmasked him yet.He might as well just be a jobber with a hood on cuz no one's gonna care if they unveil his identity at this point.Plus Punk's out so the SES really doesn't have a voice right now...

 

[Serious Mozzarella]

Why is everyone acting like the storyline is over? He's been introduced, has been working with the S.E.S., right now the focus is on Serena, but soon the focus will be on him, and the angle will gain more steam. Hell, they don't even NEED to write anything, once they start teasing that his mask'll be coming off, people will be interested in who it is.

Hell, what if he's just going to wrestle as "The Masked Man," someone who doesn't have a name yet? I don't think Joey Mercury was over enough when he was around for people to be surprised now when he takes off his mask. So he'll debut with a new gimmick as a wrestler with a mask, and he just doesn't have a name yet.

There are plenty of things he can do.

This going the same way the limo driver for Nexus, its obviously a random guy, just being apart of the SES, if he's mask comes off he likely won't get a reaction, and if its Joey Mercury, no one will remember him except for older fans.

You're right, except the difference was, the limo driver wasn't actually an angle the WWE created. It was an angle the fans made up by themselves, and probably just a screw up on the WWE's part. This one is actually an angle, but I don't think it was supposed to be this big mystery like everyone is making it out to be.

 

[Steve Rogers]

I like the idea of just keeping him ask mystery masked man.
They have waited so long now that its to the point of who cares. MAYBE reveal after the man becomes more prominent to where people actually care and he does more then run ins.

 

[sam_k7]

I too am pissed off they havnt shown us who it is!!!
its gunna have to be someonr the fans know to make the wait worth while

or just let it fizzle out.

and another thing!!!
when will we get to see punks shaved head?
the whole point of "hair matches" are for ridicule purposes and now hes rockin' a Rey Mysterio mask like a wanker kid at ringside!!!!!