So... what was it that turned you against Reigns?

[MattRhys20]

Going back and watching the Network, I find myself at the 2014 Royal Rumble (and remembering subsequent tweets afterwards), I find myself amongst thousands of people who were screaming for Reigns to win instead of Batista.

The Shield in its day were the most over babyfaces on the roster, so what was it that made people start hating him?

Is it simply that WWE are 'shoving him down our throats' (in which case, you can hardly blame Roman for that, he's just going along with it), or is it something else?

 

[AegonTargaryen]

Clearly, Roman Reigns from the Shield and during the Royal Rumble in 2014 got cheered because that's how the modern WWE audiences/the IWC have become like-the very fact the WWE/Vince McMahon endorses a said superstar makes them automatically uncool, at least in their eyes/perception. Hence, to disavow and denigrate "the chosen one" which was Roman Reigns, was the cool thing to do. Back at the Rumble, Batista was "chosen" to win(though in Batista's case, the audience grievances were logical and justified, along with CM Punk's grievance and dislike of him returning and just being given the WM mainevent spot via the Rumble win), whereas Roman Reigns was this badass guy who wasn't seeking anyone's approval/cheers. Hence, they cheered him and showered resonant boos upon Batista.

However, apart from that, there's also the genuine complaints from many of us here as well as in the live audiences- Roman Reigns from the moment they decided to push him- simply lapsed into a very boring character, something which has changed after Wrestlemania.

That character being that of a guy who himself didn't quite know what he was- but that since he knew he was handpicked to be the champion and had to play the role of a babyface/John Cena #2, would go out there every night and do his thing. Only, the audiences were bored, for MONTHS. They tried everything to make them like Roman Reigns, or cheer, or whatever, and even Roman Reigns came across as someone bestridden between a happy-go-lucky optimistic attitude and the awkwardness that he felt on account of being booed and/or recieving mixed reactions.

The Roman Reigns after Wrestlemania has improved as far as his character is concerned. He now knows and has been told by the Creative/Vince that you don't really have to be a babyface anymore, but you're not a heel. Hence, the "I'm THE Guy" schtick. Some of the forum members still like to think that Roman Reigns doesn't have a character. TRUTH IS, HE DOES. It's simply the character of a guy who doesn't really give a shit about whether you boo him or cheer him, but is revelling in his time as champion. There are subtle elements of condescension as well, which was palpable during his first encounter with AJ Styles 4-5 weeks ago. So basically he's just a step away from being what Heel Batista was in 2010.

In many ways, I feel Roman Reigns has a more enjoyable character/schtick than Dean Ambrose. But then again, Dean Ambrose is a boring guy who pretends to be "crazy" with not half the originality/conviction of Brian Pillman, or charisma/badassness of Steve Austin. The Lesnar match and build-up sucked. And last night's segment with Jericho was just awkward and the audiences apathetic. That's Dean Ambrose. But since the IWC likes him, he has a character and he's just so damn good but Roman Reigns is boring.

In a way, you're right with the conclusion of "Roman can hardly be blamed for 'going along' with the WWE/Vince's plan and doing his best" , but it did feel like he was being overpushed and promoted almost to the audience's disgust, which at this point has made the Roman Reigns hatred/avowal pretty much irrevocable, when it comes to many fans/forum members here. Those who are wise will see the talent in Roman and enjoy the product and the feud with Styles. Others will remain grumpy/obstinate and nothing will change that.

 

[LODemolition]

For me, it's simple. Once The Shield split up and he had to do his own promos, it exposed how painfully boring and vanilla he is. I had high hopes for him once The Shield members went their own way. Rollins and Ambrose thrived in their promos, while Reigns was just excruciating to watch. And in the 2 years since, he hasn't gotten any better in my opinion.

 

[AttitudeChild]

Let's get one thing clear about RR 2014 because a lot of people don't seem to understand what happened. Roman was not over. The reason he got such a big reaction is because no one wanted Batista to win, period. You literally could of put anyone in the ring with Dave that night and they would of got the same reaction. Heath Slater would've gotten that reaction. THE MIZ would've gotten that reaction. I'll always give credit where credit is do but those cheers that night had nothing to do with Reigns. He's never been cheerd like that before and he hasn't been cheerd like that since.

As to why I stopped liking him? I was never a huge fan of his to begin with truthfully. I always saw him as the lesser of the 3 Shield members but i could still enjoy his work. What made me completly turn on the character (besides his AWFUL promos) is how he's been booked. If I can quote CM Punks Pipe Bomb promo," I don't hate you Cena. What I hate is this idea that you're the best, because you're not...". That's exactly how i feel about the Roman Reigns character. I don't hate they guy, but when you try and tell me he's better than a Kevin Owens or a Cesaro or a AJ Styles well then of course I'm going to reject it because that's complete bullsh!t.

From my point of view, a lot of people cheer and root for him just because they want to be GOOD FANS. Going for the good guy and going against the bad guy "JUST BECAUSE". I've got to go with what appeals to me and the Roman Reigns character appeals to me 0%. His moveset is basic, his promos are forced, his motivations are generic and boring and his overall character is pretty much non existent. If I had to describe his character to someone, all I could say is,"He's just some dude that's there."

 

[Navi]

I was a huge fan of his but like I said before on another thread, I've turned the corner on him. When he was with the Shield he was perfect, the big good looking guy who would get the hot tag and come in a finish the match. He didn't hardly ever say anything, and didn't spend much time in the ring.

After they broke up I can understand why, but still gave him the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't great on the mic, came across as very forced and unnatural, and all his matches consisted of Samoan Drop, Drive By, a ton of Superman Punches ending with a Spear. He seems to be able to kick out of any finisher that is thrown his way, but that Spear of his is deadly to everyone he faces.

Don't get me wrong he has the looks to be a WWE champ, but not a lot to back it up. He is getting better both in the ring and on the mic, but for some reason he also needs to take a lot of rests he gets tired rather quickly.

At the 2014 Rumble anyone left in the ring with Batista would have been cheered. Not many wanted to see him come back after a 4 year absence and headline Wrestlemania, Reigns was the last one standing with him. Fans seem to forget at the time the Shield were heels and hated, but he got cheered that night because he was a better option than Batista.

His evolution or lack there of is another contributing factor. He still dresses like the Shield is together and uses their entrance music, thank god he stopped coming through the crowd. Ambrose and Rollins have gone on and changed up their character somewhat, Reigns is stuck in a rut. I'm not sure he can evolve or the WWE won't let him, but they are doing him no favours.

Reigns will get better with time, everyone should the issue is the WWE didn't give him that time and forced his push for whatever reason only know to them. It has damaged him to an extent. He'll recover but it didn't have to happen this way. If he starts believing in himself, then I might start to believe in him again, until that happens it's not a concern. I don't boo him but I don't cheer him either.

 

[ISkye]

If I had to describe his character to someone, all I could say is,"He's just some dude that's there."

This is pretty much it.

I've felt this way since he was in The Shield. Somehow since then he became a 3 time champion, has had like 7+ title shot opportunities, and has been in the Main Event of Two Wrestlemanias. That's a lot to take in for like 2 years...Oh and he won a Royal Rumble.

I never turned on him. I feel the same way since I saw him the first time. Of course to a much more heavier extent. He's just an awful combination of everything a lot of people hate in Pro Wrestling. Nothing more, Nothing less.

I personally just stopped watching RAW as a temporary solution. By the time I skip over the uninteresting/basic stuff, commercials, and Roman Reigns there's quite literally nothing left besides one or two matches.

 

[Azane]

He's self entitled, doesn't put in the work, and expects to be kept at the level he's at because...? Look? Family? The actual person is a huge d-bag, and he's been telling Fans to screw off for things like autographs, which is why he has so few now.

The character? SUFFERING SUCCOTASH, TATERTOTS, heh..!
Cant cut a promo worth a damn, his moveset is 1 Arm barred Powerbomb, 2 Samoan Drop (GET IT CAUSE HES SAMOAN HUEHUEHUE), 3. Superman Punch. 4 3 or 4 more superman punches, because why not? 5 the spear that looks like crap, but puts people out harder than an F5 on steel steps (Within Kayfabe).

Also, the "LOLROMANWINS" is exactly like "LOLCENAWINS" where it's not even fun to watch main events because we already know Roman has to look strong.

So the EXACT Point, where I didnt want to see him AT ALL? Was the leadup to Survivor Series last year, it was so forced and inorganic the way they gave Roman Seth's spot (The entire HHH Story was Seth's, we all knew this and Seth vs HHH for the WHC @ WM32 was widely predicted almost a year in advance). This is also where Roman started being an underdog, once he had won the World Title, they booked him as.... the underdog.

Oh, and 2014 Royal Rumble, people wanted Roman over Batista, because Batista didn't deserve to come back and bury the entire roster after he went to movieland for a few years. Batista was one of my favorites around evolution, but I didn't want a part-timer to screw over people who wrestle 300+ days a year.

 

[showstopper8705]

Hes the same guy he was in the shield, change the music and the ring gear and it would help so much

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Let's get one thing clear about RR 2014 because a lot of people don't seem to understand what happened. Roman was not over. The reason he got such a big reaction is because no one wanted Batista to win, period. You literally could of put anyone in the ring with Dave that night and they would of got the same reaction. Heath Slater would've gotten that reaction. THE MIZ would've gotten that reaction. I'll always give credit where credit is do but those cheers that night had nothing to do with Reigns. He's never been cheerd like that before and he hasn't been cheerd like that since.

As to why I stopped liking him? I was never a huge fan of his to begin with truthfully. I always saw him as the lesser of the 3 Shield members but i could still enjoy his work. What made me completly turn on the character (besides his AWFUL promos) is how he's been booked. If I can quote CM Punks Pipe Bomb promo," I don't hate you Cena. What I hate is this idea that you're the best, because you're not...". That's exactly how i feel about the Roman Reigns character. I don't hate they guy, but when you try and tell me he's better than a Kevin Owens or a Cesaro or a AJ Styles well then of course I'm going to reject it because that's complete bullsh!t.

From my point of view, a lot of people cheer and root for him just because they want to be GOOD FANS. Going for the good guy and going against the bad guy "JUST BECAUSE". I've got to go with what appeals to me and the Roman Reigns character appeals to me 0%. His moveset is basic, his promos are forced, his motivations are generic and boring and his overall character is pretty much non existent. If I had to describe his character to someone, all I could say is,"He's just some dude that's there."

I agree with a good deal of this, especially the notion that we're just supposed to pretend that we believe he's better than Owens, Cesaro, Styles or quite a few others. My problem regarding the whole debate of Roman Reigns is that there are fans who try to place fans into very specific categories: if you're not wild about Roman Reigns, you're just a hater or if you do like Roman Reigns, then you don't know what good wrestling is.

I don't hate Roman Reigns, never did, but I just simply do not see him as a main event level talent because, in my eyes, the talent simply isn't there. Roman Reigns is a muscular, good looking guy who has a strong familial connection to WWE and that's about it. I don't care that he's the Rock's cousin nor do I care particularly about what a strong physical look he has when he has too many other weaknesses. Reigns is a good looking guy, but I've no sexual interest in him whatsoever so there needs to be other reasons for me to invest my time in him as a main eventer; the problem with that is when I look at so many other wrestlers on the WWE roster, there are many who're just flat out superior to Reigns in a number of aspects.

Reigns was highly over as a member of the Shield because he had a limited role when compared to Ambrose and Rollins. They did most of the talking, he'd talk a little and would say the right thing in short, sweet bursts, they had most of the personality while, again, he'd pop in with just that little extra necessary so that he wasn't just some big guy who was standing around. I said lots of times while the Shield was together that the only way I could know whether I thought any of them would be main event material would be for them to get out on their own, to showcase what they bring to the table as individuals. Rollins is a main event level star, no question about it. Ambrose has what it takes to be a main event level star. Both of them have the goods inside the ring, they have fan interest, they have personality & charisma, they both have good skills on the mic. If you compare Roman Reigns to them, he comes up far short in every area except for cosmetic appearance.

As I said, I don't hate Roman Reigns, I just think he's a mid-card to upper mid-card guy who was pushed to the main event. I could see Reigns as someone who made an occasional trip to the main event, maybe has a significant title reign here or there, but I just don't buy into him as a long term main event guy because I'm just not all that impressed by what he brings to the table when you compare him to a lot of other guys already on the main roster and who could be brought up to the main roster at any given time.

 

[justinept]

We all knew early in The Shield's run that Reigns was going to be emerge from the group with the biggest push - possibly even to the level of Cena. So as the group started showing some cracks, and their run seemed destined to end, Reigns found himself under a microscope. We had spent the better part of two years enjoying Reigns, the bad ass character a bad ass group. But now we were getting ready to see if the guy could stand on his own two feet - without Ambrose doing the talking, without Rollins doing the majority of the in-ring work.

...and then he referred to Renee Young as 'baby girl"... and my ears perked up. Here's this bad-ass, take no shit character - and w/ one line I started wondering if he was going to become a doo-wop character. It didn't get much better from there as Reigns struggled mightily over the next several months (years, really) to find something that worked as well for him as playing the bad ass muscle character.

In the midst of finding his character, Reigns struggled in the ring as well. Was he still providing some extremely fun moments, just as he'd done with The Shield? Sure. But when he was teaming with Rollins, it was OK for him to stand on the side of the ring, come in with a hot tag, hit all his spots and get the crowd going. But as a singles wrestler, it was tough watching him apply this same in-ring strategy of taking minutes off at a time until he could make his comeback, hit all his spots and get the crowd going. Never was this more evident than at the 2015 Royal Rumble, which he appeared to take a nap before making his comeback, hitting all his spots and winning. It deserved all the boos that it received. Hell, even Steve Austin called him out for doing this...

So the simple answer - the 'baby girl' reference put me on alert. But his failure to provide consistent intensity during his single's matches is what really turned me off the guy.

FWIW, this seems to have changed over the past several weeks. He's absolutely crushing it with AJ Styles - something that might have to do with the company finally letting him be that bad ass character again.

 

[ComeOnVince]

For me, it's not what he lacks. And there's plenty of that. He's still green. He was still new when it started.

It's not the super-push. They have to push someone, and I don't always like who it is.

For me, it's the fact that we all knew ahead of time that the super-push was coming. It had been decreed from on high and leaked. And frankly, that's my own damn fault for being a dirt sheet reader.

But that's it for me. Knowing it was coming and having time to prepare to hate it, instead of just going alone for the ride. Were there better candidates for a push? Yeah, I have my picks. You have yours. But this is what we got. I am in no way saying that the two can be compared, but I hated Shawn Michaels when he was pushed to the top. HATED the fact that he was the champion. But he grew on me. He had the charisma and the ability, but he was lacking too in the beginning. Everyone was. Everyone develops. Some better than others. Roman's legacy is yet to be determined.

 

[louchratis]

There are a laundry list of things that turned me against Reigns and, in fact, the list is so long that I can't figure out how he is still at the top of the card. Oh, wait, LOLREIGNSWINS.
1. When The Shield broke up, Rollins and Ambrose developed new characters. Reigns did the same intro with the same outfit and the same moveset. Yes, The Shield was over, but Creative was clearly trying to piggyback their success onto Reigns without having him earn it, unlike Rollins and Ambrose.
2. When he had his hernia and missed some extended time, he was still featured prominently on WWE tv. This basically screamed, "We are pushing this guy to the moon whether the fans like it or not." So, of course, the fans (myself included) fought back.
3. His total bs "Superstar of the Year" Slammy Award. Okay, I realize the Slammys aren't legit awards and shouldn't be treated as such but the whole thing just reeked of either a rigged vote by Vince or a bunch of 8-10 year olds voting over and over in spite of the fact that Reigns had, by my count, one PPV match as a singles wrestler (an average match against Orton).
4. After years of hearing that wrestlers have to be able to perform in the ring and on the mic, they gift wrap top guy status to a guy who can't do either particularly well. When he has a mic in his hand, Reigns comes across as a musclebound meathead with an IQ in the teens. I'm sure this is because Vince - the alleged author of promos featuring "sufferin' succotash" and a painful story about a beanstalk - can't write. However, Reigns' delivery didn't help much. Also, his ring work is okay but is not in the same league as the other guys at the top of the card. Honestly, can anyone say with a straight face that they'd rather watch Reigns work a match instead of Owens, Rollins, Zayne, Styles, Ambrose, Balor, Nakamura, HHH, Cena, or Lesnar? No way.

 

[Bookerkingston]

Let's get one thing clear about RR 2014 because a lot of people don't seem to understand what happened. Roman was not over. The reason he got such a big reaction is because no one wanted Batista to win, period. You literally could of put anyone in the ring with Dave that night and they would of got the same reaction. Heath Slater would've gotten that reaction. THE MIZ would've gotten that reaction. I'll always give credit where credit is do but those cheers that night had nothing to do with Reigns. He's never been cheerd like that before and he hasn't been cheerd like that since.

Yeah that's what I'm saying...just like near the end of the 2015 Rumble the crowd started shouting "WE WANT RUSEV!!" of all people...(I've actually always liked Rusev) but anyway yeah even the guy that the crowd usually hates got cheered loudly that night, just for the sake of seeing anybody BUT Reigns win. So I agree. Same scenario

 

[WrasslinPittsburgh]

When he cut that first promo after he returned from injury just before the Rumble 2015. The groan worthy stumbling delivery. But he won me back after he beat the hell out of HHH. I was like wow theres some emotion. And then when he got the best of Vince and won the title again i was like ok ill give him a chance. and then the non stop stacking of odds gets old fast and the Rumble 2016 was it for me. hes not the underdog, never will be. he should be as dominant as Brock with the same dont give a shit attitude.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

Clearly, Roman Reigns from the Shield and during the Royal Rumble in 2014 got cheered because that's how the modern WWE audiences/the IWC have become like-the very fact the WWE/Vince McMahon endorses a said superstar makes them automatically uncool, at least in their eyes/perception.

Clearly that's only speculation Royal Rumble he we cheered because fans just hated Batista. Plus Steve Austin, The Rock and Batista 2005 are examples of hand picked guys people can get behind.

Fans turned on Reigns at the 2015 Royal Rumble but it wasn't like he was setting the wrestling world on fire before that. Also problem that he was put in the worst situation at the Rumble when Daniel Bryan was still the most over guy but entered the Rumble and eliminated early, that did nothing but just piss off the fans. Now people were probably going to not support Reigns at RR 2015 but Bryan being eliminated so early and Reigns coming out a little later just made things a lot worse.

Unforuntatley Reigns never recovered and it left the WWE throwing darts and trying to see what they can do to get Reings over.

More on this later but for now I got to go.

 

[ShinChan]

I had always liked Roman Reigns in The Shield. He was appropriate as The Powerhouse of that stable. He used to speak very less that too at the end of a promo like "Believe it".

He got cheered in Royal Rumble 2014 wholey because of Batista. Anyone could be cheered at that time. Much like Rusev was cheered in Royal Rumble 2015, although Roman was a face and Rusev was an Anti-American heel. That was because Audience didn't want Reigns to win it.

The thing is that he didn't deserve a Royal Rumble win as he hadn't done anything worthy of such push in his singles career after The Shield ended. He just had a one remarkable win against Randy Orton. Does it make him deserving enough to main event a Wrestlemania against Brock Lesnar? No, It doesn't.

Lets assume that he was deserving at that time. But was I given any reason to cheer him against Brock Lesnar?

I don't care about mic-skills. I want an emotional connection or good in-ring work. I loved Daniel Bryan and cheered him because he had emotionally connected with me and inspired me in my real life. His in-ring work was good too. I love Cesaro now because he is damn good at in-ring work.

Reigns lacks these both things. I loved him at Survivor Series last year and the fallout Raw too. Because it felt like he was being screwed. But after that, the same ol' no feel Roman Reigns. Same attire, Music etc. No personality development. No Charisma.

Still I don't hate him. But I don't like him either. I am in the Cesaro Section forever. A better wrestler than Reigns.

I would prefer to watch anyone of Cesaro, Ambrose, Rollins, Wyatt, Corbin, Balor, Crews, Joe, Aries, Nakamura, AJ Styles, Zayn, Owens, Paige, Sasha, Becky, Asuka, Bayley etc over Reigns anyday.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

I personally never turned on Reigns. I turned on Creative's (Vince's) presentation of him. He was the no-nonsense, stoic bad-ass member of the Shield. And then pigeon-holed him into the Cena 2.0 gimmick. It was like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole in the first place, and the promos/angles he was put into were embarrassingly juvenile, simplistic, and predictable.

 

[d_henderson1810]

Let's get one thing clear about RR 2014 because a lot of people don't seem to understand what happened. Roman was not over. The reason he got such a big reaction is because no one wanted Batista to win, period. You literally could of put anyone in the ring with Dave that night and they would of got the same reaction. Heath Slater would've gotten that reaction. THE MIZ would've gotten that reaction. I'll always give credit where credit is do but those cheers that night had nothing to do with Reigns. He's never been cheerd like that before and he hasn't been cheerd like that since.

As to why I stopped liking him? I was never a huge fan of his to begin with truthfully. I always saw him as the lesser of the 3 Shield members but i could still enjoy his work. What made me completly turn on the character (besides his AWFUL promos) is how he's been booked. If I can quote CM Punks Pipe Bomb promo," I don't hate you Cena. What I hate is this idea that you're the best, because you're not...". That's exactly how i feel about the Roman Reigns character. I don't hate they guy, but when you try and tell me he's better than a Kevin Owens or a Cesaro or a AJ Styles well then of course I'm going to reject it because that's complete bullsh!t.

From my point of view, a lot of people cheer and root for him just because they want to be GOOD FANS. Going for the good guy and going against the bad guy "JUST BECAUSE". I've got to go with what appeals to me and the Roman Reigns character appeals to me 0%. His moveset is basic, his promos are forced, his motivations are generic and boring and his overall character is pretty much non existent. If I had to describe his character to someone, all I could say is,"He's just some dude that's there."

No. I bet if you put Rey Mysterio in there, you still would have booed. Because, the fans disgustingly booed Rey when he came out at No.30, instead of Daniel Bryan, who WWE never advertised being in the Royal Rumble match to begin with, but because the "Yes Movement" are babies who need their diapers changed, they couldn't handle the fact that Vince didn't say "How high" when you told him to "Jump".

 

[d_henderson1810]

Let's get one thing clear about RR 2014 because a lot of people don't seem to understand what happened. Roman was not over. The reason he got such a big reaction is because no one wanted Batista to win, period. You literally could of put anyone in the ring with Dave that night and they would of got the same reaction. Heath Slater would've gotten that reaction. THE MIZ would've gotten that reaction. I'll always give credit where credit is do but those cheers that night had nothing to do with Reigns. He's never been cheerd like that before and he hasn't been cheerd like that since.

As to why I stopped liking him? I was never a huge fan of his to begin with truthfully. I always saw him as the lesser of the 3 Shield members but i could still enjoy his work. What made me completly turn on the character (besides his AWFUL promos) is how he's been booked. If I can quote CM Punks Pipe Bomb promo," I don't hate you Cena. What I hate is this idea that you're the best, because you're not...". That's exactly how i feel about the Roman Reigns character. I don't hate they guy, but when you try and tell me he's better than a Kevin Owens or a Cesaro or a AJ Styles well then of course I'm going to reject it because that's complete bullsh!t.

From my point of view, a lot of people cheer and root for him just because they want to be GOOD FANS. Going for the good guy and going against the bad guy "JUST BECAUSE". I've got to go with what appeals to me and the Roman Reigns character appeals to me 0%. His moveset is basic, his promos are forced, his motivations are generic and boring and his overall character is pretty much non existent. If I had to describe his character to someone, all I could say is,"He's just some dude that's there."

But who said that YOU get to decide who the best for everybody.

Everyone can decide who is the best for them. But you say that you don't like Roman or Cena because "they are promoted as the best because they are not".

Well, you know what. I don't think Cesaro, who you include in your list, as the best either. He sucks on the mike, he has a scrawny body, and it is inconceivable that he would be able to swing wrestlers around every match. I don't think he is the best, or should ever be promoted as such.

You say that Vince can't have his favourites, but you have yours. You boo Vince's favourites, and he doesn't promote Cesaro because he is bland. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but your opinion isn't more right than someone else's.

If Cesaro got promoted as "The Man", I would boo him because he isn't the best.

 

[d_henderson1810]

He's self entitled, doesn't put in the work, and expects to be kept at the level he's at because...? Look? Family? The actual person is a huge d-bag, and he's been telling Fans to screw off for things like autographs, which is why he has so few now.

The character? SUFFERING SUCCOTASH, TATERTOTS, heh..!
Cant cut a promo worth a damn, his moveset is 1 Arm barred Powerbomb, 2 Samoan Drop (GET IT CAUSE HES SAMOAN HUEHUEHUE), 3. Superman Punch. 4 3 or 4 more superman punches, because why not? 5 the spear that looks like crap, but puts people out harder than an F5 on steel steps (Within Kayfabe).

Also, the "LOLROMANWINS" is exactly like "LOLCENAWINS" where it's not even fun to watch main events because we already know Roman has to look strong.

So the EXACT Point, where I didnt want to see him AT ALL? Was the leadup to Survivor Series last year, it was so forced and inorganic the way they gave Roman Seth's spot (The entire HHH Story was Seth's, we all knew this and Seth vs HHH for the WHC @ WM32 was widely predicted almost a year in advance). This is also where Roman started being an underdog, once he had won the World Title, they booked him as.... the underdog.

Oh, and 2014 Royal Rumble, people wanted Roman over Batista, because Batista didn't deserve to come back and bury the entire roster after he went to movieland for a few years. Batista was one of my favorites around evolution, but I didn't want a part-timer to screw over people who wrestle 300+ days a year.

How do you know he is self-entitled? Have you heard reports that he refuses to do the job backstage? Because it seems okay when "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Brock Lesnar or Shawn Michaels refuse to play ball, but when someone you already don't like does it, you get so self-righteous.

Okay, you don't like the guy. But unless you have met him, spent time with him, how do you know his character? If he turned you down for an autograph, it was probably because of you acting like a douchebag, like you are now. The very fact that he is being asked for autographs, and you aren't, should send a message about where both of you stand in this world.

SUFFERING SUCCOTACH? TEETER TOTTERS? Yet if the Rock came back and said this in a promo, you would laugh your head off. So it is okay for your faves to say silly catchphrases, but not people you don't like.

LOLROMANWINS or LOLCENAWINS doesn't suck as much as SAWFT, whatever the hell that means.

They gave Roman Seth's story, because Seth was injured, you fool! What, did you want Seth Rollins to fight Triple H on one leg at WM32, did you?

Roman won the title and was booked as the underdog. Yet Daniel Bryan was still cheered as an underdog even after he was gifted the title at WMXXX.

You say that Batista used to be your favourite, but then you turned on him when he came back in 2014. This just shows was a fickle, fair-weather fan you are. Roman Reigns, Batista and in fact WWE don't need your support. They need you to go away. Stop watching WWE , and please never post here again. Your posts lower the intelligence of this board.

 

[d_henderson1810]

What turned people off Roman Reigns is that Vince pushed him. Pure and simple.

You see, a lot of the silly trolls who post here have a massive "God-complex" where they think that they could run wrestling better than anyone else, even though this would mean that they would have to stop playing "Dungeons and Dragons" and drag their knuckles out of their mum's basement, and find a job that pays enough to start a wrestling company, other than their job which requires them to ask "Would you like fries with that?"

People wouldn't hate Cena or Roman if word hadn't got out that Vince likes them. If Vince McMahon says "Yes", the trolls say "No", just to rebel. If WWE pushed Daniel Bryan down your throats you would turn on him as well.

You see, the fans are never going to like the same guy as Vince does. Never. They will always boo them, no matter what, because the trollish fans think they know better, obviously based on their many years of promoting wrestling, I assume.

So poor Roman Reigns is being booed and slandered because knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers, who have never made 1/1,000,000 of the money, the contribution or the impact on anything that someone like Roman Reigns has made. How jealousy must eat at you. Imagine, someone being promoted as the best, when you never have.

If I was Roman Reigns, I would just comfort myself with my money, my mansion and all the wordly goods and fame that my position brings, and not worry about what some "wanna-be" thinks. I know who sleeps more comfortably at night.

 

[d_henderson1810]

I personally never turned on Reigns. I turned on Creative's (Vince's) presentation of him. He was the no-nonsense, stoic bad-ass member of the Shield. And then pigeon-holed him into the Cena 2.0 gimmick. It was like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole in the first place, and the promos/angles he was put into were embarrassingly juvenile, simplistic, and predictable.

You should talk to Azane then, who has posted here, since he/she seems to know what Roman is like, but calling him self-entitled and a bunch of other slanderous names.

I'm glad at least you can seperate the character from the man himself.

 

[ShinChan]

How do you know he is self-entitled? Have you heard reports that he refuses to do the job backstage? Because it seems okay when "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Brock Lesnar or Shawn Michaels refuse to play ball, but when someone you already don't like does it, you get so self-righteous.

Okay, you don't like the guy. But unless you have met him, spent time with him, how do you know his character? If he turned you down for an autograph, it was probably because of you acting like a douchebag, like you are now. The very fact that he is being asked for autographs, and you aren't, should send a message about where both of you stand in this world.

SUFFERING SUCCOTACH? TEETER TOTTERS? Yet if the Rock came back and said this in a promo, you would laugh your head off. So it is okay for your faves to say silly catchphrases, but not people you don't like.

LOLROMANWINS or LOLCENAWINS doesn't suck as much as SAWFT, whatever the hell that means.

They gave Roman Seth's story, because Seth was injured, you fool! What, did you want Seth Rollins to fight Triple H on one leg at WM32, did you?

Roman won the title and was booked as the underdog. Yet Daniel Bryan was still cheered as an underdog even after he was gifted the title at WMXXX.

You say that Batista used to be your favourite, but then you turned on him when he came back in 2014. This just shows was a fickle, fair-weather fan you are. Roman Reigns, Batista and in fact WWE don't need your support. They need you to go away. Stop watching WWE , and please never post here again. Your posts lower the intelligence of this board.

Who are you to tell him to stop posting here? Who are you to tell him to leave watching WWE? Who are you to decide that his posts lower the intelligence of this board? His posts don't do so, Your WWE's apologistic posts do so. I am sure that Vince would give you a good job in WWE if he sees your away-from-facts posts about WWE.

Roman Reigns is 6"3' and 265 pounds. Daniel Bryan is 5"10' and 190 pounds. Then how come Reigns can be booked and cheered as an underdog like Bryan was? Have some logic and facts in your every WWE-favouring post.

If Reigns is being asked for autographs, it doesn-t make him a better person. The nature of a person has nothing to do with the popularity of a person.

About Cesaro, your sick opinion about him doesn't change the facts or truth. He is bad on mic according to you, right? Atleast he is better than the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. He is one of those guys who can entertain with wrestling itself. He is nowhere near bland, thats sick opinion of your Vince. You would boo Cesaro because he isn't best? But ya will cheer Reigns so that means WWE's best is Reigns? Cesaro has inconceivable strength so what?

Ya booing Cesaro won't change the truth. Best of luck for booing and being a WWE apologist who just advocates Vince and Reigns without any facts or truth in him.

 

[ShinChan]

What turned people off Roman Reigns is that Vince pushed him. Pure and simple.

You see, a lot of the silly trolls who post here have a massive "God-complex" where they think that they could run wrestling better than anyone else, even though this would mean that they would have to stop playing "Dungeons and Dragons" and drag their knuckles out of their mum's basement, and find a job that pays enough to start a wrestling company, other than their job which requires them to ask "Would you like fries with that?"

People wouldn't hate Cena or Roman if word hadn't got out that Vince likes them. If Vince McMahon says "Yes", the trolls say "No", just to rebel. If WWE pushed Daniel Bryan down your throats you would turn on him as well.

You see, the fans are never going to like the same guy as Vince does. Never. They will always boo them, no matter what, because the trollish fans think they know better, obviously based on their many years of promoting wrestling, I assume.

So poor Roman Reigns is being booed and slandered because knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers, who have never made 1/1,000,000 of the money, the contribution or the impact on anything that someone like Roman Reigns has made. How jealousy must eat at you. Imagine, someone being promoted as the best, when you never have.

If I was Roman Reigns, I would just comfort myself with my money, my mansion and all the wordly goods and fame that my position brings, and not worry about what some "wanna-be" thinks. I know who sleeps more comfortably at night.

Oh really? Then tell how was Roman Reigns deserving to win Royal Rumble when he hadn't done anything remarkable as a singles competitor except defeating Randy Orton?

Jealousy with Reigns? Lol. Does him making more money than anyone make him a better wrestler and better person? He is nowhere poor, poor are we who see such a bland wrestler as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. An underdog who has great strength. 6"3' is his height but still an underdog. 265 pounds of weight but still an underdog.

Didn't do anything in singles competition. Still wins Royal Rumble and also the Slammy award for Superstar of the year.

Advocate Reigns and Vince with facts, not with insults and allegations.

 

[d_henderson1810]

Who are you to tell him to stop posting here? Who are you to tell him to leave watching WWE? Who are you to decide that his posts lower the intelligence of this board? His posts don't do so, Your WWE's apologistic posts do so. I am sure that Vince would give you a good job in WWE if he sees your away-from-facts posts about WWE.

Roman Reigns is 6"3' and 265 pounds. Daniel Bryan is 5"10' and 190 pounds. Then how come Reigns can be booked and cheered as an underdog like Bryan was? Have some logic and facts in your every WWE-favouring post.

If Reigns is being asked for autographs, it doesn-t make him a better person. The nature of a person has nothing to do with the popularity of a person.

About Cesaro, your sick opinion about him doesn't change the facts or truth. He is bad on mic according to you, right? Atleast he is better than the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. He is one of those guys who can entertain with wrestling itself. He is nowhere near bland, thats sick opinion of your Vince. You would boo Cesaro because he isn't best? But ya will cheer Reigns so that means WWE's best is Reigns? Cesaro has inconceivable strength so what?

Ya booing Cesaro won't change the truth. Best of luck for booing and being a WWE apologist who just advocates Vince and Reigns without any facts or truth in him.

Well, I'm sick of him posting here, and he is the one whining about WWE all the time. If he doesn't want to see Roman Reigns, then don't watch WWE, because Roman isn't going anywhere.

What? Are you his boyfriend or something?

Why go for the underdog anyway? Most underdogs are there because they are not good enough to rise further. Bryan was only followed by you because you are a sheep that cheers who everyone else cheers. You have probably never had an individual thought in your life.

I was just stating my opinion about Cesaro. Why do I have any less right to think a certain way about a wrestler than you do? Who are you to tell me what to think of Cesaro, or whether I should like him or not.

At least Reigns' promos can be understood. Cesaro's thick accent can cut butter, and he needs an interpreter. Besides, name me the last time Cesaro cut a Rock-like promo.

So not thinking like you is being a WWE apologist, is it? Then you are just a hater, a troll. I will dismiss anything you say like you dismissed me. Besides, why are you fighting Azane's battles for him? Is he too busy crying because big, bad me shot down his fantasy world where Cesaro is worth a damn. Why don't just off and have a threesome with Azane and Cesaro then? Loser!