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So... what was it that turned you against Reigns?

Well, I'm sick of him posting here, and he is the one whining about WWE all the time. If he doesn't want to see Roman Reigns, then don't watch WWE, because Roman isn't going anywhere.

What? Are you his boyfriend or something?

Why go for the underdog anyway? Most underdogs are there because they are not good enough to rise further. Bryan was only followed by you because you are a sheep that cheers who everyone else cheers. You have probably never had an individual thought in your life.

I was just stating my opinion about Cesaro. Why do I have any less right to think a certain way about a wrestler than you do? Who are you to tell me what to think of Cesaro, or whether I should like him or not.

At least Reigns' promos can be understood. Cesaro's thick accent can cut butter, and he needs an interpreter. Besides, name me the last time Cesaro cut a Rock-like promo.

So not thinking like you is being a WWE apologist, is it? Then you are just a hater, a troll. I will dismiss anything you say like you dismissed me. Besides, why are you fighting Azane's battles for him? Is he too busy crying because big, bad me shot down his fantasy world where Cesaro is worth a damn. Why don't just off and have a threesome with Azane and Cesaro then? Loser!
I didn't tell ya to like or dislike Cesaro. Thats your choice. If advocating a wrestler with facts makes me his boyfriend in front of ya, then thats your level of thinking.

Saying me loser won't negate the facts and truth.

Bryan was followed by me because he was damn good at in-ring work. He had charisma too. Why would I expect a Rock promo from Cesaro? His promos are simplistic enough.

Has Reigns given a Rock promo?

I have much individual thoughts than you have. Your saying me hater and troll doesn't change the truth that you are a WWE apologist who advocates everything done by Vince. I amn't fighting Azane's battles, I am just fighting for facts.

Learn to have a discussion without insults.
 
I was just stating my opinion about Cesaro. Why do I have any less right to think a certain way about a wrestler than you do? Who are you to tell me what to think of Cesaro, or whether I should like him or not.

At least Reigns' promos can be understood. Cesaro's thick accent can cut butter, and he needs an interpreter. Besides, name me the last time Cesaro cut a Rock-like promo.

I was staying out of your discussion until you made the statement which I bolded as part of your post. That statement about Cesaro not being able to be understood and needing an interpreter is nothing but a bold faced lie.

Even if I didn't like Cesaro as a wrestler wouldn't be stupid enough to go as far as to say something like that. English is not his first language but I have never not understood a word he says, he speaks the language better than most. And while I will give you the fact that he's not the best on the mic, he can still cut an understandable promo in not only English but most likely in 4 other languages as well. Reigns has a problem with just English when he talking to the crowd. Neither one of them can cut a Rock like promo, so that pendulum swings both ways here.

There is nothing wrong with you disliking someone but to tell lies to make them look bad, just ends up making you look bad.
 
Nothing really turned me against Reigns. I've always liked the guy and still do but I never saw the dollar signs that others (and Vince) seemed to see in him. The guy has a great presence no doubt, he's basically a prototype of what the perfect wrestler should look like, but as others have mentioned, the character doesn't strike me as a good fit at all. Firstly, he seems to lack confidence in himself which is very detrimental to the way that someone of his stature is perceived by the audience. It's one of the reasons why guys like Goldberg and Lesnar were able to get over despite lacking in A LOT of areas, they truly believed that they were the best and it showed. They made people believe it. It seems like fans (on these boards at least) are having a very tough time buying Reigns as somebody that can hang with the best, and that's partially his fault. Secondly, the underdog character was just stupid. NOBODY wanted to see Reigns booked like that because it was so inorganic and mechanical. This 6'3, 245 pounder is getting his ass kicked by people like Sheamus and Rollins? Why? It leads me to believe they're trying to protect his weaknesses and, whether that's the true reason or not, it leaves a negative perception in the back of my mind.

I think Reigns can be a huge player in the future, he's improving a ton through this feud with Styles and if he can consistently stick with this character and show up every night, I can see him having a justified Taker-like career. I just can't picture him as the face of the company. I'd be fine with him being the "face" in theory, meaning they can go ahead and plaster his image everywhere for all I care, but booking wise, there should always be somebody ahead of Reigns carrying the majority of the load. Perhaps a Rollins or an Owens in the future.

Reigns is a good talent and has shown that he can elicit some sort of reaction, either good or bad. WWE just needs to get off the Roman Reigns train, and start looking at other options for the position they are grooming him for. As long as he's thrown in our faces each week without consistently showing that he should be thrown in our faces, there will always be people who can't stand him. That's natural.
 
How do you know he is self-entitled? Have you heard reports that he refuses to do the job backstage? Because it seems okay when "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Brock Lesnar or Shawn Michaels refuse to play ball, but when someone you already don't like does it, you get so self-righteous.

Okay, you don't like the guy. But unless you have met him, spent time with him, how do you know his character? If he turned you down for an autograph, it was probably because of you acting like a douchebag, like you are now. The very fact that he is being asked for autographs, and you aren't, should send a message about where both of you stand in this world.

SUFFERING SUCCOTACH? TEETER TOTTERS? Yet if the Rock came back and said this in a promo, you would laugh your head off. So it is okay for your faves to say silly catchphrases, but not people you don't like.

LOLROMANWINS or LOLCENAWINS doesn't suck as much as SAWFT, whatever the hell that means.

They gave Roman Seth's story, because Seth was injured, you fool! What, did you want Seth Rollins to fight Triple H on one leg at WM32, did you?

Roman won the title and was booked as the underdog. Yet Daniel Bryan was still cheered as an underdog even after he was gifted the title at WMXXX.

You say that Batista used to be your favourite, but then you turned on him when he came back in 2014. This just shows was a fickle, fair-weather fan you are. Roman Reigns, Batista and in fact WWE don't need your support. They need you to go away. Stop watching WWE , and please never post here again. Your posts lower the intelligence of this board.

Part 1; Legends not doing the job. Everyone of the superstars you named who's refused to do their job has REGRETTED their decision, and publically apologized and said it made them a worse person.

Part 2; I'm not speaking from my personal experience, Roman blowing off fans has been reported for years, he's treated many fans like crap, and again, it's partially why he's running out of fans.

Part 3; The Rock would never use those words UNIRONICALLY like Roman did. The Rock would write them and deliver them into a promo that makes sense.

Part 4; Knowing the ending always hurts a story. Wrestling is similar, it takes a really good performance to get over that stigma. Roman doesn't consistently put on a good enough match to make it interesting when he's 99.9% chance the winner in said match.

Part 5; They should of rewritten the story for Roman, the plotholes and way they played to Seths strengths, WHICH are Romans weaknesses made the entire Roman vs HHH Story fall super flat.

Part 6; Daniel Bryan was the underdog, he was the complete opposite of Reigns, Vince didnt want to push DB, but the crowd cheered so hard and spammed Twitter and such so much that DB got inserted into the ME. Roman gets inserted because Vince likes him and he's the Rock's cousin, not because of his charisma, or wrestling ability.

Part 7; Batista was one of my favorites in 2002, I'm sorry my opinion changed between 12 years of Batista changing and myself changing? I think 12 years is enough time to reform an opinion.

Part 8; Years of people being told that WWE doesn't need them as fans is probably an omen about why their product has a fraction of the viewers it used to. I'm not going to tell anyone they're a bad fan, I will discuss or even debate with their opinion, but I'm also under the understanding that I'm not going to turn someone's opinion on an internet forum, but I enjoy reading and posting the differing opinions, so I don't plan to stop posting here unless I take another Wrestling hiatus.
 
I said it in a previous thread but Reigns is the equivalent of a band member who refuses to change. They keep making the same stuff over and over with no change. Whereas Ambrose does whatever he wants and Rollins has tweaked the sound to be more popular.

Reigns needs to change his gimmick. He hasn't changed in four years with no tweaks yet he's gone through a hell of a lot storyline wise which would change anyone's character. Yet he's still there with Shield gear and Shield music even though the group hasn't been around for two years

It doesn't help that his in ring and mic skills aren't great either. If he was good at one or the other (ideally both) it could be forgiven but the crux of the issue is his gimmick. Randy Orton is a better wrestler and talker than Reigns and even he was a victim of the samey old gimmick syndrome which made people tire of him.

Reigns needs to work on his in ring and mic skills but the major thing that needs working on is his gimmick. Change is good.
 
Okay, I turned on Reigns when he started the Superman gimmick. After the Shield split, Reigns still had the Shield gear on and still came out through the crowd. Symbolically it sent the message that Reigns alone still believed in what the Shield stood for even though his colleagues abandoned the group. I felt that he could go into a lone vigilante role, much more like Batman if you want him to be a superhero, where he still gets involved in injustice that bothers him. Shit like when the Wyatts gang up on Ziggler, that should be where Reigns all by himself rushes the ring to rescue an outnumbered ally. A few months of Reigns angrily vowing to take on the corruption in WWE would've made him a much more popular face/fan favorite. Instead they tried to equate him with Superman, which actually meant he was written just like Cena. This is where everybody got off board. WWE could have booked him so much better. Once he said sufferin sucotash there was no going back.
 
Personally I don't have a problem with Reigns but I have a pretty good idea of why so many do. Forgive me for being the guy that didn't read any replies before responding. Maybe somebody already addressed this. The reason so many people turned on Reigns is because of one brief story CM Punk told after he left the company. Punk mentioned how he was told over and over again to make Reigns look strong. Even though I think Punk's frustration was being told the same thing by so many people rather than with Reigns himself I believe people interpreted this as Punk having a problem with Reigns. Since Punk is the IWC God his minions decided they needed to turn on Reigns to please Punk. Those stupid 'Make Roman look strong' memes are still popping up all the time. And the fans say the creative team is stale. Not only did they have the word of God but that story also told them that WWE was really behind Reigns and there's no way that portion of the audience could ever get behind somebody that the company wants to succeed.
 
Roman Reigns is 6"3' and 265 pounds. Daniel Bryan is 5"10' and 190 pounds. Then how come Reigns can be booked and cheered as an underdog like Bryan was?

Hmmmm. Size really has nothing to do with it, though. Hulk Hogan (6'7" 280lbs) was consistently booked as an underdog by the WWF: Typical Hogan match consisted of him getting beaten down all match long before Hulking up and winning with a miracle comeback. Size never came into it.
 
Personally I don't have a problem with Reigns but I have a pretty good idea of why so many do. Forgive me for being the guy that didn't read any replies before responding. Maybe somebody already addressed this. The reason so many people turned on Reigns is because of one brief story CM Punk told after he left the company. Punk mentioned how he was told over and over again to make Reigns look strong. Even though I think Punk's frustration was being told the same thing by so many people rather than with Reigns himself I believe people interpreted this as Punk having a problem with Reigns. Since Punk is the IWC God his minions decided they needed to turn on Reigns to please Punk. Those stupid 'Make Roman look strong' memes are still popping up all the time. And the fans say the creative team is stale. Not only did they have the word of God but that story also told them that WWE was really behind Reigns and there's no way that portion of the audience could ever get behind somebody that the company wants to succeed.

Wtf are you talking about?

Anyway, for me, there are 4 reasons why I dislike Reigns:

1. He never changed. Same music entrance, basically same attire, same attitude, same moves, same flat character (with his cheesy line of "I'm not a bad guy blablalablabla"). Like someone else said it before, Rollins and Ambrose evolved, changed their characters. Currently, the only difference between Reigns from the Shield and now is that he gets to talk...and boy he sucks at it.

2. He hasn't given a single reason why he wanted to be "THE guy". It's not something he has dream since he was a kid, it's not to prove he is the best in the world at what he does, it's not because he would really piss offf Triple H and Stephanie by becoming champion, etc. It's just because it's the logic thing to do. He doesn't show that desire. There's no emotional connection there.

3. The fact that he became WWE champion 3 times in less than 6 months and main evented Mania 2 years in a row, while guys like Punk didn't, and Bryan only did because WWE didn't have another viable option, it's cringe worthy. As a fan I see it as it doesn't matter how hard you work, how good you are or how over you are...

4. I started to cheer him after TLC when he beat the crap out of HHH and showed himself not as a corny guy, but as a badass that doesn't take shit from anyone. However, at the Royal Rumble, when he went to the back to take a nap...Man I hated him, I mean he was NOT carried on a stretcher and came back as an injured hero, like Bryan did in Wrestlemania. He went backstage walking by himself... That's NOT how you book your number 1 babyface, that's what a fucking HEEL does, A HEEL!
 
He is not as good at professional wrestling as the spot he has been given in professional wrestling. Trump never bothered me too much as a reality show star and product (plus his own) spokesman. I do not believe he is qualified to be president therefore I criticize the idea of him holding that spot.

Reigns is kind of the same idea. So when it became apparent Reigns was acting like Cena but doing a bad job at it I went from being annoyed with The Shield split to indifferent about Reigns to pretty pissed about what I was seeing.

Then I officially turned on him on January 6, 2015 at 4:52am.
 
I didn't tell ya to like or dislike Cesaro. Thats your choice. If advocating a wrestler with facts makes me his boyfriend in front of ya, then thats your level of thinking.

Saying me loser won't negate the facts and truth.

Bryan was followed by me because he was damn good at in-ring work. He had charisma too. Why would I expect a Rock promo from Cesaro? His promos are simplistic enough.

Has Reigns given a Rock promo?

I have much individual thoughts than you have. Your saying me hater and troll doesn't change the truth that you are a WWE apologist who advocates everything done by Vince. I amn't fighting Azane's battles, I am just fighting for facts.

Learn to have a discussion without insults.

"Ya" "Saying me loser" . Talk English.

Bryan is a good in-ring worker and charismatic. I have never said otherwise. But he got his success because the fans decided to troll Vince, not because of his in-ring work.

You can't criticize Roman's promo skills when you follow Cesaro, who is weak on the mike. I have never held the belief that you can ONLY succeed because of stickwork. Kane (circa 1997-2000), Mortician Undertaker, Andre The Giant, Chris Benoit, Bret Hart and many others have done great things in WWE, without being a maestro on the mike. YOU are the one who says that Roman sux because he can't cut a promo, yet ignore Cesaro's poor stickwork.

No. You calling me an "apologist" is no more true than me calling you a hater. Both are opinions, and opinions aren't truth, they're perceptions (but then, I don't expect someone who says "Say me loser" would know that). But I wonder why you even watch WWE if any positive thing I say about them is considered "being an apologist". This means that there is not one thing you even like about WWE, or else that would then make you an apologist.

You're not fighting for Azane. Well, you should have minded your own business and not attacked me for what I said to him. It had nothing to do with you.
 
Wtf are you talking about?

Anyway, for me, there are 4 reasons why I dislike Reigns:

1. He never changed. Same music entrance, basically same attire, same attitude, same moves, same flat character (with his cheesy line of "I'm not a bad guy blablalablabla"). Like someone else said it before, Rollins and Ambrose evolved, changed their characters. Currently, the only difference between Reigns from the Shield and now is that he gets to talk...and boy he sucks at it.

2. He hasn't given a single reason why he wanted to be "THE guy". It's not something he has dream since he was a kid, it's not to prove he is the best in the world at what he does, it's not because he would really piss offf Triple H and Stephanie by becoming champion, etc. It's just because it's the logic thing to do. He doesn't show that desire. There's no emotional connection there.

3. The fact that he became WWE champion 3 times in less than 6 months and main evented Mania 2 years in a row, while guys like Punk didn't, and Bryan only did because WWE didn't have another viable option, it's cringe worthy. As a fan I see it as it doesn't matter how hard you work, how good you are or how over you are...

4. I started to cheer him after TLC when he beat the crap out of HHH and showed himself not as a corny guy, but as a badass that doesn't take shit from anyone. However, at the Royal Rumble, when he went to the back to take a nap...Man I hated him, I mean he was NOT carried on a stretcher and came back as an injured hero, like Bryan did in Wrestlemania. He went backstage walking by himself... That's NOT how you book your number 1 babyface, that's what a fucking HEEL does, A HEEL!

Shawn Michaels has had the same music his whole career, he always wore chaps and the same ring attire, used the same moves and yet was massively over.

The Big Show has had the same music since he debuted in 1999.
 
Shawn Michaels has had the same music his whole career, he always wore chaps and the same ring attire, used the same moves and yet was massively over.

The Big Show has had the same music since he debuted in 1999.

The biggest difference between Reigns, Michaels and Show, is that when they debuted Michaels and Show weren't part of a three man faction. Reigns came in as part of the Shield, they all wore the same outfits, used the same theme music and had the same entrance through the crowd. After the Shield breakup Ambrose and Rollins went on to change their characters, theme music, outfits and came down the ramp. Reigns up until recently had not changed at all, the only change was in the last few weeks when he started coming down the ramp as well.

Oh and you are right about Big Show, but wrong on Shawn Michaels. Michaels debuted with Marty Jannetty as The Rockers, and their theme song was Rockin Rockers. It was only when he went single he changed it to the one he uses now. And he didn't always wear chaps, he and Jannetty wore the same colourful outfits. So even Michaels changed up his appearance and theme song when he went on his own, again something Reigns hasn't done.
 
At this point he isn't as good as his spot suggests, he obviously needs improvement (then again who doesn't in the WWE locker room), and he's easily the least interesting guy to come out of The Shield, as a matter of fact he is the least over guy from that stable without a doubt. He looks good, his matches are good but it might be a good idea to let him really get over with the crowd before they give him the top spot. I haven't really turned on Reigns as I've turned on WWE's handling of him. He has all the tools to be that guy but Reigns or the WWE hasn't put the puzzle together yet.
 
"Ya" "Saying me loser" . Talk English.

Bryan is a good in-ring worker and charismatic. I have never said otherwise. But he got his success because the fans decided to troll Vince, not because of his in-ring work.

You can't criticize Roman's promo skills when you follow Cesaro, who is weak on the mike. I have never held the belief that you can ONLY succeed because of stickwork. Kane (circa 1997-2000), Mortician Undertaker, Andre The Giant, Chris Benoit, Bret Hart and many others have done great things in WWE, without being a maestro on the mike. YOU are the one who says that Roman sux because he can't cut a promo, yet ignore Cesaro's poor stickwork.

No. You calling me an "apologist" is no more true than me calling you a hater. Both are opinions, and opinions aren't truth, they're perceptions (but then, I don't expect someone who says "Say me loser" would know that). But I wonder why you even watch WWE if any positive thing I say about them is considered "being an apologist". This means that there is not one thing you even like about WWE, or else that would then make you an apologist.

You're not fighting for Azane. Well, you should have minded your own business and not attacked me for what I said to him. It had nothing to do with you.
First of all, English is my third language. I use it as much i could know about it. You wana hate me about me, as you wish then.

Then I never said that Reigns sucks because of mic skills. Here is my post about it on 2nd page of this thread.
I don't care about mic-skills. I want an emotional connection or good in-ring work. I loved Daniel Bryan and cheered him because he had emotionally connected with me and inspired me in my real life. His in-ring work was good too. I love Cesaro now because he is damn good at in-ring work.
I don't damn care about mic skills. If I cared about them, I won't love Cesaro. It is the last thing I see in a wrestler.

And Sorry for calling you an WWE apologist. I was wrong here.

Next i didn't attack you. I just discussed my opinion with you. There is a lot of difference between argument/attack and discussion.

Heck I never said that Roman Reigns sucks.

There are both positive and negative sides about WWE. I am liking Reigns/Styles feud. I would have loved it if tag matches weren't repetitive.

I discussed facts opposing Reigns push. You can discuss facts favouring it, can't you?
 
They have given him no personality.

It's like we're just supposed to cheer him because...we are.

But it's a little better now that the character has some self awareness and is "not a good guy, not a bad guy..." You know the rest.

It's just boring as hell whenever he's on the mic. He's like a WWE video game Create-A-Wrestler in real life. The creative team fucked him over by giving him no personality and on top of that, forcing him into the main event (it's amazing the WWE hasn't figured out that this method of jamming someone into the main event regardless of the audience's feelings toward that person almost never works out).
 
Part 1; Legends not doing the job. Everyone of the superstars you named who's refused to do their job has REGRETTED their decision, and publically apologized and said it made them a worse person.

Part 2; I'm not speaking from my personal experience, Roman blowing off fans has been reported for years, he's treated many fans like crap, and again, it's partially why he's running out of fans.

Part 3; The Rock would never use those words UNIRONICALLY like Roman did. The Rock would write them and deliver them into a promo that makes sense.

Part 4; Knowing the ending always hurts a story. Wrestling is similar, it takes a really good performance to get over that stigma. Roman doesn't consistently put on a good enough match to make it interesting when he's 99.9% chance the winner in said match.

Part 5; They should of rewritten the story for Roman, the plotholes and way they played to Seths strengths, WHICH are Romans weaknesses made the entire Roman vs HHH Story fall super flat.

Part 6; Daniel Bryan was the underdog, he was the complete opposite of Reigns, Vince didnt want to push DB, but the crowd cheered so hard and spammed Twitter and such so much that DB got inserted into the ME. Roman gets inserted because Vince likes him and he's the Rock's cousin, not because of his charisma, or wrestling ability.

Part 7; Batista was one of my favorites in 2002, I'm sorry my opinion changed between 12 years of Batista changing and myself changing? I think 12 years is enough time to reform an opinion.

Part 8; Years of people being told that WWE doesn't need them as fans is probably an omen about why their product has a fraction of the viewers it used to. I'm not going to tell anyone they're a bad fan, I will discuss or even debate with their opinion, but I'm also under the understanding that I'm not going to turn someone's opinion on an internet forum, but I enjoy reading and posting the differing opinions, so I don't plan to stop posting here unless I take another Wrestling hiatus.

Part 1:-Has "Stone Cold" ever regretted holding down Jeff Jarrett? Has Triple H expressed regret for all the guys he buried over the years? Has Kevin Nash ever been sorry for not jobbing to anyone, ever?

Besides, Austin is a wife-beater, and they get a lot of practice in saying "sorry' but never mean it.

Part 2:- I heard that Edge and Batista were both pricks to people, yet they were still popular.

Didn't you say that you used to be a fan for Batista, and he was not known for always turning down autographs.

Also, does that mean that you were never critical of John Cena, who always makes time to sign autographs and have selfies taken, even after others have stopped.

Part 3:- "The Rock would write them down and deliver them"

Hang on. I thought that people loved how the Rock cut promos on the fly. You mean he writes them down? That explains what Cena meant when referring to the Rock writing notes on his hand.

Part 4:- "Knowing the ending hurts the story". Then you can't be a fan of Brock Lesnar then, since he never loses either.

Part 6:- Oh no, this again. How the crowd was 100% responsible for putting Daniel Bryan in the main event.

You know what. Maybe Vince played you all like a fiddle. Maybe he knew that you would react the way you would, and it was always planned to include Bryan in the main event. You might have just been dumb enough to think that WWE legitimately didn't rate Bryan.

Also, Vince likes Roman because he is big, muscular and has "the look". You know what. The fans used to like Roman too, until they found out that Vince did, and then turned on Roman because the infantile fans can't ever admit to liking who Vince likes. Being the cousin of the Rock helps as well.

Part 7:- Batista was one of your favourites. See my point 2. Yet you bag Roman for not being nice to people, and yet once supported a guy in Batista who was a prick backstage. Make up your mind.

You admit that you changed. Good. Then maybe the problem isn't wrestling. Maybe it is that you have become a cynical, judgmental person who can't just enjoy himself but has to pick apart the product. Maybe you don't love wrestling as you once did, and then come on here and inflict your moaning on us.

Part 8:- Again, you think the product is failing because of lower ratings. Ever heard of streaming, DVR or watching on a tablet, Iphone or other device. TV ratings are archaic. The fact is, the attendances at shows, especially house shows, are as steady as ever.
 
First of all, English is my third language. I use it as much i could know about it. You wana hate me about me, as you wish then.

Then I never said that Reigns sucks because of mic skills. Here is my post about it on 2nd page of this thread.

I don't damn care about mic skills. If I cared about them, I won't love Cesaro. It is the last thing I see in a wrestler.

And Sorry for calling you an WWE apologist. I was wrong here.

Next i didn't attack you. I just discussed my opinion with you. There is a lot of difference between argument/attack and discussion.

Heck I never said that Roman Reigns sucks.

There are both positive and negative sides about WWE. I am liking Reigns/Styles feud. I would have loved it if tag matches weren't repetitive.

I discussed facts opposing Reigns push. You can discuss facts favouring it, can't you?

If you don't care about mike skills, then why mention whether Roman is any good or not about cutting a promo?
 
Personally I don't have a problem with Reigns but I have a pretty good idea of why so many do. Forgive me for being the guy that didn't read any replies before responding. Maybe somebody already addressed this. The reason so many people turned on Reigns is because of one brief story CM Punk told after he left the company. Punk mentioned how he was told over and over again to make Reigns look strong. Even though I think Punk's frustration was being told the same thing by so many people rather than with Reigns himself I believe people interpreted this as Punk having a problem with Reigns. Since Punk is the IWC God his minions decided they needed to turn on Reigns to please Punk. Those stupid 'Make Roman look strong' memes are still popping up all the time. And the fans say the creative team is stale. Not only did they have the word of God but that story also told them that WWE was really behind Reigns and there's no way that portion of the audience could ever get behind somebody that the company wants to succeed.

I don't believe anything a bitter shit like C.M. Punk says. This is a guy who was given the longest-title reign in 15 years, and was so ungrateful about it. He whined like a little bitch. He didn't mind taking WWE's money and then pissed in Vince's face in return.

Punk would say anything to make Vince and WWE look bad. I hope he gets his head beaten in at UFC, and he is humiliated in front of the Extreme Fighting Crowds. Besides, I can't think of anyone Punk liked putting over. Good riddance to him.
 
They have given him no personality.

It's like we're just supposed to cheer him because...we are.

Pretty much this. I watched RAW last night and was totally bored anytime he was in the ring. There is just nothing, no personality, no charisma, nothing. Looks will only get him so far, and I think they've got him as far as their going to get.

When he speaks he sounds like he doesn't even believe what he's saying himself. Hard for me as a fan to get behind him now. If he has no confidence in what he's saying, then why should I? I can't wait for Rollins to come back and take the title from him.
 
The same thing that put me off Cena. He's just been shoved in our faces all the time. It's not that I don't like him. It's more that I'm bored of him already.

It's just that there is no one else WWE wants to build the company around. He's the only one WWE has built to be a WWE champion who isn't part time, Seth Rollins or John Cena.

When he loses the title it's almost guaranteed that he won't get pinned clean. It's the whole sense of inevitability to him.

The other issue I had with him was the timing. Had WWE pulled the trigger on him a year earlier I think he'd have been fine.
 
Shawn Michaels has had the same music his whole career, he always wore chaps and the same ring attire, used the same moves and yet was massively over.

The Big Show has had the same music since he debuted in 1999.

With WWE, Shawn Michaels has worked under at least three different theme songs. His character constantly evolved. In the case of Show his character has been through more changes than possible anyone in history. Thus why people no longer care for him.
 

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