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So it is safe to say that Aces and Eights have been a letdown?

That's completed bullshit you know damn well if Jarrett or Bischoff is involved people will complain you said it yourself if its Bischoff you hate it. If its Storm Roode Or Aries people would say that makes no sense and if its Ex WWE guys people would go typical TNA putting over WWE castoffs over Homegrown Talent

Yeah... but Devon?? REALLY???
 
When was the last time a huge surprising angle was revealed at Wrestlemania? The "biggest show of the year" is supposed to revolve around matches that have been built up over a long period of time, and that's exactly what Bound for Glory was. In no way was TNA obliged to reveal anything regarding Aces and 8's at this show, nor did they give the fans any expectations that they were. Imagine if after Wrestlemania 27 I started a thread bitching that the anonymous GM wasn't revealed. People would look at me dumbfounded. This is pretty much the same thing.

The "leader" will be revealed soon enough I'm sure. The fact that you guys care this much to complain at this extent because you're still so curious of who it could be only shows TNA is doing the right thing by continuing to drag the angle out. If you want the pay off, then keep watching. Simple as that.
 
That's completed bullshit you know damn well if Jarrett or Bischoff is involved people will complain you said it yourself if its Bischoff you hate it. If its Storm Roode Or Aries people would say that makes no sense and if its Ex WWE guys people would go typical TNA putting over WWE castoffs over Homegrown Talent and whose to say Jarrett isn't still involved in some way and Ex WWE guys aren't also members of the group

It's not complete bullshit and you know it. I would have been tremendously disappointed if it were Bischoff or Hogan, I even said so. And there's no doubt that some of the other suggestions would have plenty of detractors, as absolutely no one will get unanimous support and agreement. But at least the other guys are significant names who would make more sense than a guy who got released supposedly and absolutely no one outside of Puerto Rico cared ;).

Truth be told, I doubt he's the leader. I still see that as being Jarrett with a heavy dose of Bully Ray as well. But shouldn't that reveal happen on their biggest show of the year, rather than in the Impact Zone on a typical Thursday night, or at some secondary PPV which even fewer people will watch now on the heels of yet another colossal disappointment?
 
It's not complete bullshit and you know it. I would have been tremendously disappointed if it were Bischoff or Hogan, I even said so. And there's no doubt that some of the other suggestions would have plenty of detractors, as absolutely no one will get unanimous support and agreement. But at least the other guys are significant names who would make more sense than a guy who got released supposedly and absolutely no one outside of Puerto Rico cared ;).

Truth be told, I doubt he's the leader. I still see that as being Jarrett with a heavy dose of Bully Ray as well. But shouldn't that reveal happen on their biggest show of the year, rather than in the Impact Zone on a typical Thursday night, or at some secondary PPV which even fewer people will watch now on the heels of yet another colossal disappointment?

You haven't said one person that's a Significant Name and would've made sense if you doubt he's the leader I don't get the sense in all this complaining about someone who maybe just another member of the group
 
Who haven't said one person that's a Significant Name and would've made sense if you doubt he's the leader I don't get the sense in all this complaining about some whose just another member of the group

Jeff Jarrett is a name that I mentioned that would have made 100% sense, would be an excellent leader, and should have been revealed on the biggest stage of the year. And for the record, I'm not complaining, I'm simply discussing my viewpoint. And I think the biggest event of the year warrants the reveal of a leader or a significant member, not a throw away guy.
 
When was the last time a huge surprising angle was revealed at Wrestlemania? The "biggest show of the year" is supposed to revolve around matches that have been built up over a long period of time, and that's exactly what Bound for Glory was. In no way was TNA obliged to reveal anything regarding Aces and 8's at this show, nor did they give the fans any expectations that they were. Imagine if after Wrestlemania 27 I started a thread bitching that the anonymous GM wasn't revealed. People would look at me dumbfounded. This is pretty much the same thing.

The "leader" will be revealed soon enough I'm sure. The fact that you guys care this much to complain at this extent because you're still so curious of who it could be only shows TNA is doing the right thing by continuing to drag the angle out. If you want the pay off, then keep watching. Simple as that.

I don't care about the reveal or where it happened. It wasn't the main event of the PPV so calling the show a disappointment because of it, is an exaggeration. But why in the blue hell did TNA rehire Devon and put him there? That the only real bother to me. That it was Devon.
 
Jeff Jarrett is a name that I mentioned that would have made 100% sense, would be an excellent leader, and should have been revealed on the biggest stage of the year. And for the record, I'm not complaining, I'm simply discussing my viewpoint. And I think the biggest event of the year warrants the reveal of a leader or a significant member, not a throw away guy.

There was No Reason to expect the reveal of the leader last night Dvon is also significant if its revealed that he is the mole and has been letting the group come into the Impact Zone
 
There was No Reason to expect the reveal of the leader last night Dvon is also significant if its revealed that he is the mole and has been letting the group come into the Impact Zone

There was every reason to expect the reveal of the leader last night. The biggest show of the year was last night, what the hell are they waiting for? Unless they still have no idea who the leader is going to be, which is a distinct possibility as well.

Devon is not significant. When he vacated the TV title and supposedly left the company, no one cared. And I don't care if he's the mole who has let people into the Impact Zone, the goddamn janitor could have done that.
 
There was every reason to expect the reveal of the leader last night. The biggest show of the year was last night, what the hell are they waiting for? Unless they still have no idea who the leader is going to be, which is a distinct possibility as well.

Devon is not significant. When he vacated the TV title and supposedly left the company, no one cared. And I don't care if he's the mole who has let people into the Impact Zone, the goddamn janitor could have done that.

NO There wasn't just like JMT said and whether you like it or not Knowing who the Mole is very significant in the storyline
 
I don't care about the reveal or where it happened. It wasn't the main event of the PPV so calling the show a disappointment because of it, is an exaggeration. But why in the blue hell did TNA rehire Devon and put him there? That the only real bother to me. That it was Devon.

I'm not an advocate of, "if it surprises you then it's automatically good," but that was obviously what TNA was shooting for here. They wanted to give you a surprise, while making sure it also made sense to the angle. You just have to have faith that they'll make up for it in the future with a leader or a performance from Devon or Aces and 8's that will blow you away.

I too also think that Devon sucks, but I also thought Bubba Ray sucked and he's been really good this year. You never know what could come out of this.
 
Is pretty much been clarified that D-von was not the leader on the Aces and Eights twitter

"Good Job, Prospect"

So y'all guys need to chill.

And generally a reveal would happen the month before the biggest PPV of the year, at least. Say back when Vince eintroduced the NWO, that reveal would have ruined wrestlemania if it had to interfere with everything else. This is simply another piece to something that is clearly generating alot of interest and is therefore a succesful bit of entertainment. Let the good times role and we'll get more as it continues.

D-Von for prospect of the month.
 
THEN WHO give me a Name that's realistic that people wouldn't of complained about

Didn't hatehabs and others do that for you already? And if you're going to ask a question only to shoot down the answer (regardless of what the answer is,) don't ask the fucking question.
 
Sounds like the biggest problem was the placement of it in the show. Joe is right that nothing was ever promised and people were going to complain regardless. But clearly what they did didn't work. Eveyone just had a feeling and assumed something bigger or more creative would happen.

I think if they made it the opening bout and continued the rest of the show with short Aces and Eights moving-in segments throughout the show the fans would have been able to focus on the main event and have the good resonate in their brains when they think of BFG instead of the goofy Devon reveal.
 
Didn't hatehabs and others do that for you already? And if you're going to ask a question only to shoot down the answer (regardless of what the answer is,) don't ask the fucking question.

Not really habs said he would be fine with Jarrett as the leader which he still may very will be, wouldve hated Bischoff or Hogan then Roode Storm or Aries which wouldve been Criticized for making no sense and WWE castoffs. My point is that people will complain no matter what TNA does
 
My point is that people will complain no matter what TNA does

And you'll defend anything they put on TV. I get it. And I don't say that to piss you off... you know it's truth. And honestly, I respect that more than you probably think. But when something is done that irresponsibly on their programming, I call it out. Apparently, I'm not alone.

It's not about the idea of Devon being a part of this group. If you really think about it, ANYONE could fit the part of "random member B of Aces and Eights." It's just the fact that out of any type of reveal they could've made, why was it Devon?? The guy is widely known as a total hunk of donkey shit as a singles competitor. And Hogan's been verbally blowing him ever since his contract ran out, yet no one gave two shits. And they still used him as the reveal for their payoff show? It's just plain fucking stupid.
 
It was a bit dumb. On the other hand, a man just had a mask ripped off and uttered the phrase "Yes! It was me all along!" on a professional wrestling PPV; that alone will keep me smiling for the duration of the A&8s angle.

A few things to point out.

1) It has not been five months of build to this reveal. This reveal had precisely zero build provided by TNA, and the only reason you were expecting anything was because that's how you think professional wrestling is supposed to work and you can't stand being wrong.

The angle hasn't been running for months to build to this reveal or to sell BFG; it's been running for months because it's been really fucking entertaining and provided to focus for one of the better runs of Impact I can remember.

Now I've espoused on multiple occasions about how A&8 will lose all of its intrigue as soon as the member's identities are revealed, so I don't condemn the decision to gradually unmask one foot soldier and a time building towards the leader; it's considerably more interesting and keeps to angle progressing nicely. I wouldn't have gone with Devon as a first pick, I wouldn't have done it at BFG and I would have done it considerably better, but on the other hand I would never have had the balls to include the line "Yes! It was me all along!", so none of us is perfect.

2) I find it curious that at least half of the people vocally bitching about the A&8's reveal not living up to their expectations are exactly the same people who haven't been able to tell us loudly enough these past few months how little they care about said reveal. Odd that; it's almost as if certain individuals are having a good old moan for the sake of it.
 
And you'll defend anything they put on TV. I get it. And I don't say that to piss you off... you know it's truth. And honestly, I respect that more than you probably think. But when something is done that irresponsibly on their programming, I call it out. Apparently, I'm not alone.

It's not about the idea of Devon being a part of this group. If you really think about it, ANYONE could fit the part of "random member B of Aces and Eights." It's just the fact that out of any type of reveal they could've made, why was it Devon?? The guy is widely known as a total hunk of donkey shit as a singles competitor. And Hogan's been verbally blowing him ever since his contract ran out, yet no one gave two shits. And they still used him as the reveal for their payoff show? It's just plain fucking stupid.

I dont believe that you are just trying to piss me off and just as you have the right to complain about something you don't like I can defend them if I feel the bashing is not warrented I also don't get this I'll defend anything TNA does notion I rarely get into these types of discusion.

I think its unfar to say no cares about D-Von, lots of people care about D-Von Hogan was being bombarded by people on twitter about bringing him back. D-Von does have a following of fans that care about him
 
I think its unfar to say no cares about D-Von, lots of people care about D-Von Hogan was being bombarded by people on twitter about bringing him back. D-Von does have a following of fans that care about him
Such people should be executed. So decrees the moderator of the TNA section. This abhorrence and mockery of all things good and decent cannot continue. I demand these infidels be executed.
 
So honestly, KJ, let this infidel pose a question to you. What is your honest opinion of revealing Devon as a member of Aces and Eights at the biggest TNA PPV of the year. A big enough deal for an event of this magnitude, or yet another BFG letdown?
 
At BFG maybe but how can it be a letdown after only one person has been revealed? Makes no sense to me. Take your Ritalin and get back to me later.
 

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