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This thread is the quintessential example of the classic truism to never argue with an idiot. You can't win. They just drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. Always remember, empty barrels make the most noise.
 
This thread is the quintessential example of the classic truism to never argue with an idiot. You can't win. They just drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. Always remember, empty barrels make the most noise.

It started with whatever person was a big enough idiot to give this idiot power. Otherwise, I'd be posting in the rest of the forums about wrestling & other topics, rather than posting in this thread I created about the idiot.
 
:lmao:

Let me see if I have this correct. Everyone here is wrong, but you are right. Most here in this thread exists in an alternate reality, but you are the only one who sees things as they truly are. I've never been right, even when it is my own expectations which are met. And you claim you are not a troll, despite the many people who believe so, but refuse to do even a single thing which might dismiss you as a troll, because you don't want me to disagree with you.

Is that correct?

That's pretty much it. TJ Crybaby Troll = IDIOT!!!!! :lmao:
 
Close, but not quite.

1] Since I am right (maybe others, too, who have not spoken.posted, or who post other than what they truly think, or leave some parts out), & I am here, that means not everyone here is wrong.
I excluded you from everyone in my post, (and actually edited my post before you posted to say most), so this statement is clearly a waste of time. Your nitpicking (incorrectly as it turns out) is yet another piece of evidence of your trolling.

2] Let us not discuss your expectations being met, since it seems you only post about the way you think/see things, not anything you "expect" to happen before it does.
Ahh, there's you being a troll again.

3] One thing you are definitely right about is I correctly claim I am not a troll (something you repeatedly claim I am, & have never proven)
And yet have given numerous examples in support of my claim. And I have convinced most of the other people who have posted in this thread, proving it to them.

In fact, it seems the only person who has posted in this thread who doesn't believe it is you. But surely it can't be because you're wrong...

which is one of the reasons I have never posted anything that might "dismiss me as such".
You wish to dismiss the idea you are not a troll, yet you won't even do one thing to do so, such as your list of players better than LeBron James.

You're a troll, plain and simple. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying exposing you as the idiot and troll you are, which is why you're still in the Prison and not just banned.

(Think about it: Why would I repeatedly claim to not be something, only to post something that shows me to be that very thing? I think perhaps you meant "disprove" or the like, not "dismiss as".)
Dismissing something does not mean you accept it, or have ever accepted it. You need to study a dictionary.

But before you do, please provide that list of players better than LeBron James. That way you can work to "disprove" the idea you are a troll.
 
It started with whatever person was a big enough idiot to give this idiot power. Otherwise, I'd be posting in the rest of the forums about wrestling & other topics, rather than posting in this thread I created about the idiot.

Okay, tell you what. PROVIDE THE 26 PAGE LIST! That would INSTANTLY prove a major hurdle in getting you out of this mess.

If you don't, you're basically Joe McCarthy and his 500 members of the State Department
 
Just as an aside, I'm not a big LeBron fan, but do believe he is the best in the game today. However, if I was building a new team from scratch and could take my pick of all players, I could make an argument for taking Durant first. And maybe even a better argument for taking Kevin Love.
 
Durant did nothing during the championship serious. Idk if I would go with Durant first to be honest. I would either go Kobe or Lebron. Then after that Rando if it could happen.

Why Durant first?
 
Durant is younger than Lebron but I'd take Lebron then D-Wade and go from there. I wouldn't put Kobe on my team because he bashes his team when they lose. He's a crybaby just like the guy who started this thread.
 
I excluded you from everyone in my post, (and actually edited my post before you posted to say most), so this statement is clearly a waste of time. Your nitpicking (incorrectly as it turns out) is yet another piece of evidence of your trolling.

Now, this gets somwhat interesting, as you are making incorrect claims about what I have doine, as well as what you yourself have done.

Ahh, there's you being a troll again.

Something cannot be done again that was never done once.

And yet have given numerous examples in support of my claim.

Much as my list of players>Lebron, you claim to have many, but state none.

And I have convinced most of the other people who have posted in this thread, proving it to them.

I have already stated they are probably agreeing to block themselves from treatment similar to what you have shown me, not because they in fact agree.

In fact, it seems the only person who has posted in this thread who doesn't believe it is you. But surely it can't be because you're wrong...

That is an option, but not the true case.

You wish to dismiss the idea you are not a troll, yet you won't even do one thing to do so, such as your list of players better than LeBron James.

Dismissing the idea I am a troll would not be dismissing me as a troll. That would be showing me/leading to the idea I am one, which many seem to have regardless.

You're a troll, plain and simple. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying exposing you as the idiot and troll you are, which is why you're still in the Prison and not just banned.

Go expose yourself, as you doubtlessly do regularly. You have yet to expose me as anything, except a man who is perhaps wasting my time defending myself to people who have their own opinions of me regardless, & using words/phrases/etc. that (it seems) they are largely unable to understand much of.

Dismissing something does not mean you accept it, or have ever accepted it. You need to study a dictionary.[/quite]

As do you, & perhaps (for instance) also studies on human conersation, books on grammar, & definitions of Internet terms ("trolling", etc.).

ut before you do, please provide that list of players better than LeBron James.

As I said before, doing so would be pointless. You would simply post a disagreeing opinion, as you did in the topic previously. Since that is just opinion (same as much of this thread), you'd just be repeating yourself. Regardless of opinions, facts, or lack of both, it would overall prove largely pointless.

Perhaps worse yet, I would be providing a long list of people better than Lebron (a list that almost-surely would require much research on my part, since as I said before, I wish to not leave any of those MANY players off of such a list). You, on the other hand, would just be restating the same thing you have several times before once again. In short, I would be doing a great percentage of the work to yet again come to the same stopping point we have (& I have predicted) previously.

It appears a few members have stated they also hold an opinion others are perhaps better than Lebron, higher picks in hypothetical drafts, etc (despite your claims they agree with you), & even named players. Why not discuss it with them, rather than ask me to do something I have proven pointless?

That way you can work to "disprove" the idea you are a troll.

No need to undo something that was never done.
 
As I said before, doing so would be pointless. You would simply post a disagreeing opinion, as you did in the topic previously. Since that is just opinion (same as much of this thread), you'd just be repeating yourself. Regardless of opinions, facts, or lack of both, it would overall prove largely pointless.
As incredibly amusing as your comments are before this statement, let's focus on this one for a moment.

We have basically done nothing but repeat ourselves throughout this entire thread. You're not making any headway at all, making every post you've had in this thread worthless. You've disagreed with nearly everything I've said, including when I said you met my expectations of posting similarly to Sidious.

But now, when asked what was originally an honest question, and now a chance for you to help put to bed the idea that you are a troll, you're going to say you don't want to post the list because I would disagree with it and it would be pointless?

This is one of the biggest reasons people are calling you a troll. You go against popular opinion, argue with the popular opinion, but never once support your argument. You just posted in opposition for the giggles. Coincidentally (or not), it's also the straw which broke the camel's back, as the saying goes, and convinced me you belong in the Prison. Now, you won't be getting out if you DO answer the question, but at least I'd be more willing to consider it. But as long as you refuse to do this, you'll stay in here.

Perhaps worse yet, I would be providing a long list of people better than Lebron (a list that almost-surely would require much research on my part, since as I said before, I wish to not leave any of those MANY players off of such a list).
:lmao:

Fine, 50 players would be more than enough. It doesn't have to be an exhaustive list, 50 players would be enough. You don't even have to rank them, just an unordered list is fine.

You, on the other hand, would just be restating the same thing you have several times before once again.
How can I restate something I haven't said? I haven't compared LeBron to anyone you consider better, because you haven't told me who you consider better or why.

In short, I would be doing a great percentage of the work to yet again come to the same stopping point we have (& I have predicted) previously.
And how is that different from you posting in this thread?

It appears a few members have stated they also hold an opinion others are perhaps better than Lebron,
Yes, and they said who. You haven't.

(despite your claims they agree with you)
:lmao:

They agree with me you're an idiot and a troll. I said most in the original thread agreed LeBron was better, and from what I can tell, most who have posted in the last few posts agree LeBron is better. They said they may not pick LeBron first in a draft, but they said LeBron is probably better.

Why not discuss it with them
Because they've given me names and a small explanation. You have done neither.

rather than ask me to do something I have proven pointless?
Allow me to take a page out of your book....you haven't proven anything in this thread, except you're an idiot and a troll who lives in an alternate reality created in his own mind.

On the contrary, it's not pointless. This could be a stepping stone for you getting out of the Prison. Like I said, it won't be the full jump, but it's a step in the right direction. So it's most certainly not pointless.

You have no reason not to post a list of players. You do have incentive to post the list of players. At this point, the only reason you don't post the list is because you're a troll.

I'll be waiting on that list.
 
We have basically done nothing but repeat ourselves throughout this entire thread.

Yet you, who claim to be an intelligent person, have no problem posting in it & doing so repeatedly.

You're not making any headway at all, making every post you've had in this thread worthless.

I believe this thread has more readers than those that post in it, & consider the chance with every post that I am changing their opinions of me/the situation.

But now, when asked what was originally an honest question, and now a chance for you to help put to bed the idea that you are a troll, you're going to say you don't want to post the list because I would disagree with it and it would be pointless?

1] If it was "originally an honest question", that makes me wonder what it is now.

2] I don't see how that would put any such idea to bed. While you might cease to state it, you also might continue to hold it. Regardless, as it is simply an idea & not a fact, I don't largely care if I end it or not.

This is one of the biggest reasons people are calling you a troll.

That is largely because they don't want to be "imprisoned", similar treatment from you, etc.

You go against popular opinion, argue with the popular opinion, but never once support your argument. You just posted in opposition for the giggles.

Not hardly! A large reason I do that is because of what/who we are posting about. We are not discussing particles, or things that might be hard to see. We are/were discussing our opinions of many people & their abilities to do something that is also quite visible. None can be proven right or wrong, & they are not likely to change regardless of what a disagreeing person says.

Coincidentally (or not), it's also the straw which broke the camel's back, as the saying goes, and convinced me you belong in the Prison. Now, you won't be getting out if you DO answer the question, but at least I'd be more willing to consider it. But as long as you refuse to do this, you'll stay in here.

As long as I refuse to, I'll stay here. But also, even if I do it, I won't be getting out. You realize you've just cleared any reason I might have ever had to do it? To quote you,


Fine, 50 players would be more than enough. It doesn't have to be an exhaustive list, 50 players would be enough. You don't even have to rank them, just an unordered list is fine.

I might be tempted to do it with this new stopping point named, except that you already stated I won't be getting out of this area regardless.

How can I restate something I haven't said? I haven't compared LeBron to anyone you consider better, because you haven't told me who you consider better or why.

No, but you did say you believe him to be the best, which makes it go without saying you believe him to be better than anyone I might name.

And how is that different from you posting in this thread?

I never said it was. However, you have proven several times you don't think or react like lots of people. So every time I post, I believe that the possibility I might change your opinion on something is open.

Yes, and they said who. You haven't.

Nor have you stated you agreed with any of them. Simply do so. I will also claim to agree. Your ego sated, we can have my name corrected, I will be removed from this area, & I may in fact never return to these forums.

They agree with me you're an idiot and a troll. I said most in the original thread agreed LeBron was better, and from what I can tell, most who have posted in the last few posts agree LeBron is better. They said they may not pick LeBron first in a draft, but they said LeBron is probably better.

Those that posted have said so. Regardless, that is but a small percentage of the membership on these forums or anywhere. Also, we have no proof they are stating their actual opinions.

Because they've given me names and a small explanation. You have done neither.

No, but I have stated why I haven't done so. Now, we add your statement I won't get out of "The Prison" even if I do it. Guess that means there's no need whatsoever to do it now.

Allow me to take a page out of your book....you haven't proven anything in this thread, except you're an idiot and a troll who lives in an alternate reality created in his own mind.

I never proved I am either of those things. (I couldn't, as they are not true.) Also, I responded to the "alternate reality" claim before, & in fact stated that situation as it actually exists.

On the contrary, it's not pointless. This could be a stepping stone for you getting out of the Prison. Like I said, it won't be the full jump, but it's a step in the right direction. So it's most certainly not pointless.

On the contrary, it is quite pointless.

1] You say it wouldn't be the only thing I'd have to do to get out, but don't state what the rest would be. (I'm guessing it would include needing to create a just-as-long thread where I praise you & "admit" to your claims of my being an idiot troll, as well as "admit" you were right & I was wrong about me, Lebron, & several other things this whole time.)

2] Previously in the same post I am responding to now, you said I wouldn't get out of here even if I did do it, making there be no reason for me to do so, which is obvious considering I hadn't done it before you said that.

You have no reason not to post a list of players. You do have incentive to post the list of players.

I just posted that I have no reason to (& explanation why), as well as an explanation of why I have no reason to.

At this point, the only reason you don't post the list is because you're a troll.

That can't be a reason for anything, as it is not the case.

I'll be waiting on that list.

I'll be waiting for you to state the situation as it actually is, but I don't expect either to happen.
 
Yet you, who claim to be an intelligent person, have no problem posting in it & doing so repeatedly.
As I said, I'm enjoying it. Remember, you're the one who claims a problem with repeating yourself.

I believe this thread has more readers than those that post in it, & consider the chance with every post that I am changing their opinions of me/the situation.
Their opinions do not matter when it comes to you being back on the general forums, something in which you seem to have an interest.

1] If it was "originally an honest question", that makes me wonder what it is now.
Now it's me illustrating why you're in here.

2] I don't see how that would put any such idea to bed. While you might cease to state it, you also might continue to hold it. Regardless, as it is simply an idea & not a fact, I don't largely care if I end it or not.
I can't help but notice you're ignoring the larger issue. You claim to not provide the list because you don't want me to disagree and you think it's pointless, and yet, here you still are posting the same things over and over, saying nothing I've agreed with.

That is largely because they don't want to be "imprisoned", similar treatment from you, etc.
I don't put people in the Prison for disagreeing with me, people disagree with me all the time.

We are not discussing particles, or things that might be hard to see. We are/were discussing our opinions of many people & their abilities to do something that is also quite visible. None can be proven right or wrong, & they are not likely to change regardless of what a disagreeing person says.
But disagreeing without providing any proof makes a person question why you're bothering to disagree, especially on a discussion forum.

As long as I refuse to, I'll stay here. But also, even if I do it, I won't be getting out. You realize you've just cleared any reason I might have ever had to do it? To quote you,
Once again, you either failed at the reading comprehension, or you are trolling.

I very clearly said you will not be getting out of here simply by providing your list, but that it will be a first step in considering your release. I provided you the reason to provide your list, not cleared any reason.

I might be tempted to do it with this new stopping point named, except that you already stated I won't be getting out of this area regardless.
See above.

No, but you did say you believe him to be the best, which makes it go without saying you believe him to be better than anyone I might name.
Which doesn't change the fact I haven't made a single statement in regards to your opinion of who is better and why, because you haven't told us who is better and why, which means I cannot restate something I haven't stated.

Once again, I have to consider your avoidance of the actual discussion, and your attempt to twist the words, to be trolling.

I never said it was.
So why would you not post your list?

However, you have proven several times you don't think or react like lots of people. So every time I post, I believe that the possibility I might change your opinion on something is open.
So why not post your list? If you believe you might change my opinion on something, wouldn't that basically defeat your argument against posting the list?

How many times can you contradict yourself?

Nor have you stated you agreed with any of them.
But I didn't disagree with any of them, which you keep claiming is the main reason you don't post your list.

we can have my name corrected
Your name seems to be completely accurate. Many people have agreed.

I may in fact never return to these forums.
I could simply ban you if you leaving the forums was an issue. I don't care if you're here or not. Nothing is stopping you from leaving, so you're welcome to leave now if you wish.

Those that posted have said so. Regardless, that is but a small percentage of the membership on these forums or anywhere. Also, we have no proof they are stating their actual opinions.
Ahh, so they're just lying in anonymous conversation with each other.

Another example of why I consider you to be trolling.

No, but I have stated why I haven't done so.
Which contradicts your actions in continuing to post in this thread, as well as your explanation for why you continue to post in this thread.

Sorry, I'm not buying your explanation. The much more obvious explanation is trolling.

Now, we add your statement I won't get out of "The Prison" even if I do it. Guess that means there's no need whatsoever to do it now.
See several quotes above where I discuss this.

I never proved I am either of those things.
You've proven it to me, and apparently several others who have posted in this thread.

On the contrary, it is quite pointless.

1] You say it wouldn't be the only thing I'd have to do to get out, but don't state what the rest would be.
Why does it matter? Wouldn't a first step in getting out of the Prison, and getting a name change, be enough? It seems to me I'd be willing to take the first step, and keep stepping whenever I had the opportunity, especially since the first step would be a minor time expense compared to the time you've already put into this thread.

(I'm guessing it would include needing to create a just-as-long thread where I praise you & "admit" to your claims of my being an idiot troll, as well as "admit" you were right & I was wrong about me, Lebron, & several other things this whole time.)
Certainly wouldn't hurt. Not necessary, but wouldn't hurt.

2] Previously in the same post I am responding to now, you said I wouldn't get out of here even if I did do it, making there be no reason for me to do so, which is obvious considering I hadn't done it before you said that.
I said the list alone would not be sufficient in you being released. I also said it would be a start.
 
I'll be waiting for you to state the situation as it actually is, but I don't expect either to happen.
Fair enough.

The situation is that you are in here because I think you are a troll. From the Ask a Staff thread a year and a half ago to your PM trolling you ended up receiving an Infraction for to the several threads since that I've noticed, I believe you are a troll. Perhaps not all the time, but enough to warrant being in here, as far as I'm concerned.

Furthermore, the situation is as long as I am an Admin here, you will only be released from the Prison, and receive a name change, by convincing me you can be a productive member of the forums. The situation is that nothing you have said since being put in Prison has hinted to me that you've even once attempted to change my opinion of you. You have been combative, insulting and otherwise undesirable.

But I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to end this thread. After all, we both agree it's pointless back and forth with both of us just repeating ourselves. Consider this your opportunity to start over fresh in the Prison. I won't even require you to provide your 26 page list, although it would help your cause.

I'll provide you with the same opportunity every other prisoner not named Jenks or Bill Lesnar (who are here under different/special circumstances) have. You have the opportunity to post with quality, but without the insults or the types of post I consider trolling and/or undesirable. You might wish to claim you only know how to post one way, and that's fine. You're welcome to post any way you desire. Just understand the way you currently post is not likely to ever see you released as long as I am an Admin.

Take this opportunity to start over. Swallow your pride and understand what it will take to get what you desire, which is a release from the Prison and/or the name change. If you choose not to, it's certainly okay with me. It's just not likely you'll get what you desire.
 
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