Should Ryback, Ziggler and Rowan become a stable?

[MartialHorror]

It seems like they're being seen together quite a lot. On this previous Smackdown though, they were all outmaneuvered by the combined forces of Rollins and...JJ security...After the Rumble and this, I'm beginning to wonder if there is some truth to the theory that WWE wants to keep Ziggler down.

But maybe a stable is a good thing as it doesn't seem like WWE knows what to do with Ryback. I thought they were setting up a feud with him and Rollins...or at least finishing up the one with Rusev, but Cena's taking care of the latter and the presence of Ziggler and Rowan during the confrontation with Rollins undermines the possibility of the first. But compared to Rowan, it's like Ryback's development has focused direction. Rowan has just been used as talent enhancement. Ziggler also seems to be lost in limbo.

So if WWE doesn't have any good ideas for them as solo performers, I wouldn't mind a stable. They might be used much like the Shield was last year.

 

[kadroan]

I guess it could work. They could continue to feud with The Authority. Rowan and Ryback would make a good tag team and Ziggler could be the face of the group and him and Ryback could switch up with talking

 

[Stan Hansen]

No, I don't like the idea at all. Ryback and Ziggler are bigger than that. At least they should be. Rowan wouldn't fit at all unless they change his gimmick considerably.

 

[Jtrivera]

They've been on the same page since November... Thats already stable like if you ask me.. But no they shouldn't be a stable, all of them can be doing better things right now, it's cool having 3 people that have each others backs without even having to say so.

 

[Aquaman6686]

Dolph Ziggler is WAY too over to be saddled in a terrible stable gimmick. Ryback and Erick Rowan could form a tag team though, so Ryback will FINALLY have someone worse than him in the ring to work with. Working with Erick Rowan would make Ryback look amazing in comparison.

 

[Wrestlingaholic]

Why can't we for once just see a group of friends who help each other out when needed, hang out backstage but aren't an official stable? Being in a stable is somewhat restrictive storyline-wise.

 

[Navi]

Oh sure why not. We already have New Day, we can call this new stable Next Week, cause that's where they'll knock you once they get their hands on you.

On a serious note. When you pigeonhole wrestlers into a stable and it doesn't work out, like New Day, you could ruin any momentum they have going. This might hurt Ziggler and Ryback. Rowan as much as I like him could use the help, but not at the expense of the other two, who are much better in singles competition.

 

[OldSchoolWrestlingFan]

This could have worked in the beginning of the story line but it's too late now. If they were going to become a stable they shouldn't have been brought back so quickly & teamed with Sting as part of an invasion/vigilante angle. If they didn't do that they should have been brought back as a stable out to destroy Cena for getting them fired so they make an unholy alliance with the Authority to get Cena - either could have worked but the opportunity is far gone now.

 

[BuriedByCena]

No. If they want to do a final them against seth/J&J at Fast Lane, cool. But end it at that PPV and let them move on. Rowan can stay in jobber status for all I care and he can join the Battle Royal at WM31.

Ziggler Vs Bryan at WM31. It is the best thing right now for those 2 guys. It gives everyone a great singles match. It gives us a reason to tune into Mania. It forces the rest of the card to step up because this will be the show stealer.

Ryback... I guess throw him in the Battle Royal also. Heck, have him win it this year. He is pretty much the only one other than Cesaro worthy of winning. But Cesaro won last year and it did nothing for him. At least this will give Ryback something to brag about for a couple months.

 

[Mustang Sally]

After the Rumble and this, I'm beginning to wonder if there is some truth to the theory that WWE wants to keep Ziggler down.

It might not be keeping him down as much as positioning him where he ought to be in the first place; a mid-card wrestler who operates well at that level. The company has given him a few opportunities to shine in the upper echelon, but he simply isn't good enough, imo. Who knows, his best destiny might be to have buddies at his back.

Sure, let the three of them be a stable......with options. That is to say, they can still wrestle singles matches when needed, but can also function as a group when it's called for. After all, the three of them are so different that they contrast with each other well and present a different look to opponents. Nothing wrong with that.

In a practical sense, teaming guys up gives more air time to more people, especially when Creative doesn't have anything in particular for some individuals......witness: The New Day.

 

[MartialHorror]

It might not be keeping him down as much as positioning him where he ought to be in the first place; a mid-card wrestler who operates well at that level. The company has given him a few opportunities to shine in the upper echelon, but he simply isn't good enough, imo. Who knows, his best destiny might be to have buddies at his back.

Sure, let the three of them be a stable......with options. That is to say, they can still wrestle singles matches when needed, but can also function as a group when it's called for. After all, the three of them are so different that they contrast with each other well and present a different look to opponents. Nothing wrong with that.

In a practical sense, teaming guys up gives more air time to more people, especially when Creative doesn't have anything in particular for some individuals......witness: The New Day.

I actually agree with you on Ziggler. He's perfect midcard material, but fans go crazy over him and WWE should know that. I don't expect someone like him to win the Rumble, as I don't think Ziggler is particularly bankable, but to eliminate him that quickly is just stupid. Thats going to make an already angry crowd, angrier.

 

[Aquaman6686]

It might not be keeping him down as much as positioning him where he ought to be in the first place; a mid-card wrestler who operates well at that level. The company has given him a few opportunities to shine in the upper echelon, but he simply isn't good enough, imo.

Dolph Ziggler is THE best overall talent WWE has today. He's tied with Bryan for the most over superstar on the roster, and is the second-best full time in-ring worker in the company after Bryan as well. There's nobody in the company who deserves to be at the top any more than Dolph Ziggler. And the fans WANT Ziggler at the top. The "WE WANT ZIGGLER" chants at nearly every show are proof of that.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Dolph Ziggler is THE best overall talent WWE has today.

No, he isn't.

He's tied with Bryan for the most over superstar on the roster, and is the second-best full time in-ring worker in the company after Bryan as well.

No, he isn't.

There's nobody in the company who deserves to be at the top any more than Dolph Ziggler.

Yes there is.

And the fans WANT Ziggler at the top. The "WE WANT ZIGGLER" chants at nearly every show are proof of that.

You're totally full of shit and you once again prove that you know NOTHING about professional wrestling.

Nothing Ziggler does in the ring makes any sense. Literally no one thing. Nothing in his moveset looks like it even hurts other than his Superkick (the most overused move in wrestling) nor do any of his moves make sense. Luckily he dropped the stupid 10 elbow drop spot. The only thing he truly excels at is selling finishers. The problem is he sells EVERYTHING like a fucking finisher. He has been in the business for quite a long time now and he still seems to believe that being athletic makes you a good wrestler. It didn't work for Shelton Benjamin, it doesn't work for Kofi Kingston, and it doesn't work for Ziggler.

Seriously, just stop talking you fucking buffon.

As for the topic at hand, if they're going for a temporary thing like The Union was back in the day then yeah, sure. Other than that? I don't really see how it works. I mean, it'd be great for Rowan who has very little upside being anything other than dumb muscle in a stable. But if you want Ryback or Ziggler to eventually become something, you can't stick the in a stable of misfit toys. I don't think so, anyway.

 

[BaconBits]

Stables are so ridiculously overrated by wrestling fans. They run their course pretty quickly, and generally one or more members of whatever stable flounder even worse coming out of it then they were going in.

And this particular stable would be another in a long, long line of thrown together bullshit. Especially since they already have one face three person faction that's going nowhere.

 

[JDHale]

Some of you guys are so ridiculously biased when it comes to Ziggler, for and against, that it's actually laughable. Fact is your merchandise sales and marketability are what's gonna move you up or down the ladder, regardless of your hatred or love for him. You can use any excuse in the world as to why he should or shouldn't be up there, be it his move set, his mic skills, his passion, his use of social media, his finisher, his look, his name or whatever other excuse or reason you can give, but at the end of the day get it through your head that it doesn't matter. Just because you think he should be in the midcard or at the top is irrelevant, as the merchandise and likability he sells is what positions him on the card, and so next time you post please try not to let your bias hate or love for the guy blind you and make you write stupid, over-exaggerating posts that don't correlate with his current situation... At the moment he seems to be doing well with the majority of fans, so he's going to be positioned on the edge of upper mid card, and if he keeps improving he will be moved up, and if he loses the momentum and support he'll drop down. I should say WWE aren't trying to hold him down in my opinion. If a wrestler is making them money and fans, they will only try capitalize on it and will not try reduce it. Don't get me mistaken I want him to reach the top, but if he doesn't then I'm just gonna have to admit he simply isn't deserving enough. It's funny how people question his moveset saying he only has the superkick, and yet they conveniently forget the DDT, Neckbreaker, Stinger Splash and Dropkicks, which by the way might not look like they are damaging to you, but realize that to new viewers and younger audiences it does. Likewise, and as much as a FAN I want him to reach the top, just because he can sell better than most doesn't make him any more deserving of winning the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. *Rant Over*

In terms of the topic, after watching Smackdown I had an idea in my head that this trio and Orton might actually team up and be the ones to take down the Authority. Obviously that's just a gut feeling, but it doesn't make sense as to where others would fall into the storyline so it's unlikely. I personally don't want the three to form a faction as such, but I don't mind them looking out for one another. The positive if they do is that it gives them a direction in terms of storyline, and it gives whatever storyline they go into together a purpose with them being put through so much together.

 

[MasterDebator]

Stables are so ridiculously overrated by wrestling fans. They run their course pretty quickly, and generally one or more members of whatever stable flounder even worse coming out of it then they were going in.

And this particular stable would be another in a long, long line of thrown together bullshit. Especially since they already have one face three person faction that's going nowhere.

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, here. I'd almost be interested if I felt like Creative would dedicate time, energy, and brainpower to creating a meaningful purpose for this triumvirate of formerly fired superstars, but my gut tells me that they'd be thrown together based on an angle that's lost all of its steam as a result of each guy being unceremoniously dumped over the top ropes during the Royal Rumble. WWE has successfully destroyed any momentum Ziggler had coming out of the Survivor Series main event, Ryback is now relentlessly teased by the horrendous announce team because he actually extrapolated inspiration from The Secret, and Rowan, much like his ill-fated former brother-in-arms Luke Harper, has been saddled with no story, no background, no purpose, and no program.

Sound familiar? This is the story of virtually every midcard wrestler in the WWE. Sigh. Also, stables fail more often than they succeed. They're like small businesses. Even now, look at New Day, or think back to CORRE (Was that how it was spelled?).

Quick point about F.A.T's rant about Ziggler. While I vehemently agree with you that A) Ziggler is not as over as people claim him to be (smart crowds aren't the only barometer for an "over" star) and Ziggler is not the "most" talented superstar (how does one measure that, even?), I do think his in-ring work is exciting though it lacks any true thought/technicality. Just because he can perform an array of maneuvers, it doesn't mean he's a ring technician (see: Brock Lesnar). His fame-asser is ill-performed, his superkick is overused, and his finisher is mediocre. That being said, I don't mind that he sells often. It fits an underdog character and it helps the live crowd buy into the fact that he's in danger. Exaggerated as it may be, to the casual fan, selling the fuck out of a move might even help put his opponents over. It seems like you have a personal vendetta out for Ziggler, or maybe just for his fans, but I think you're being too harsh on him.

Oh, and, he's just as bad on the mic as Roman Reigns. If not worse. "I'm here to entertain all of you." No, you're here to win matches and earn a shot at a championship. Whether it's being fed through Vince or not, it still sucks and Ziggler gets treated with kid gloves frequently because he's been selected as a glass ceiling superstar by smarter fans.

 

[Bockwinkel's Class]

Dolph Ziggler is THE best overall talent WWE has today. He's tied with Bryan for the most over superstar on the roster, and is the second-best full time in-ring worker in the company after Bryan as well. There's nobody in the company who deserves to be at the top any more than Dolph Ziggler. And the fans WANT Ziggler at the top. The "WE WANT ZIGGLER" chants at nearly every show are proof of that.

Ziggler is an indyfab spotmonkey who's never going to be "the guy" or even "one of the guys".

 

[The Fabulous Rougeau's]

It would be too much like Union back in the day. Back then it consisted of Foley, Show, Shamrock and Test, maybe others. But they were guys who were kicked out of the corporation or ministry and wanted to fight back against the higher ups.

It would be Union 2.0 and it really didn't work that well the first time around.