Sheamus-- General and Miscellaneous Comments Thread

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My question is, why are you all bitching about Sheamus? I mean you guys always wanted fresh blood! Well here you go. Some people think there doing this for more viewers from Ireland but you know what screw it! Sheamus is mehh on the mic and IMO has very good in-ring skills, and if Trip's see's some thing in him, maybe he is a future main eventer to be. Besides, Sheamus probably wont even win, but I'm guessing he'll become an upper-midcard player after this, and you know what, thats a very good first two months on RAW! And WWE still has a couple of weeks to build Sheamus up, and maybe (I doubt it) he'll look like a legitimate threat to Cena's title. And also Sheamus is probably some one to hold Cena back until WM season which begins at the Rumble. So quit your complaining and just chill and watch what happens.
 
I agree. It is fresh, something different and it is not like it will close the PPV out. Sheamus will put a decent fight and he wont win but it will build him into a decent uppermid carder for now and then we will see. I do not like him but it is someone new... they have tried pushing others (MVP, Henry, Swagger) and they havent lived up to the hype so here we go with shemuss turn...
 
People are fickle thats why. I see what your saying about the people who were begging for this "new blood" and now bitching over Sheamus should just shut up and watch, but on the other hand i do see their points, i mean sheamus was nothing more than a mid carder on ECW, and he comes over to Raw, and here is where i disagree with you, i thought he did nothing on Raw. i mean ok he "Retired" noble but i mean thats not anything people will remember.

So he does nothing for like two months and out of the blue gets a WWE title shot? Kinda stupid. Maybe that's just me since I'm not really a fan of his, i thought that battle Royal would have been a good opportunity to either give Kofi a title shot or even better, have Ted Dibiase (?) turn on Legacy and get a title shot. anyways Creative can definitely make this feud good over the next couple of weeks, and can definitely make Sheamus seem like a legit contender, but its gonna take some hard work
 
Simply put it...Sheamus is just another beat em up and squash them kinda guy. Another unstoppable monster. Whoop dee fucking do. Not like we havent seen a million of his type of charaters b4. Plus they guys so damn fucking pale I cant take him seriously am sure a lot of people feel the same way. If there's anythings that
s going to hold him back its because of that little factor. I don't care if hes gym buddies with Trips. If the crowd refuses to get behind him no amount of love backstage will get him over. It wouldn't be half as bad if the guy had a tan.

Another thing is hes only been around for a few short months ... How come he gets a title push before guys like Kingston or Swagger? They have obviously been working their asses off to get a push, Kofi got his. This would of been a perfect time to elevate a guy like swagger...but like always WWE picks the monster heel that wont even last long b4 he falls back down to mid card and everybody stops caring about him.

I'm all for new blood in the stale main event scene. But it just doesn't make sense that a guy like fucking Sheamus gets it before more deserving superstars
 
simply put it...Sheamus is just another beat em up and squash them kinda guy. Another unstoppable monster.whoop dee fucking do not like we havent seen a million of his type of charaters b4. plus they guys so damn fucking pale i cant take him seriously am sure a lot of people feel the same way.if theres anythings thats going to hold him back its because of that little factor. i dont care if hes gym buddies with Trips. If the crowd refuses to get behind him no amount of love backstage will get him over. It wouldnt be half as bad if the guy had a tan.

Another thing is hes only been around for a few short months...how come he gets a title push before guys like kingston or swagger? they have obviously been working their asses off to get a push, kofi got his, this would of been a perfect time to elevate a guy like swagger...but like always wwe picks the monster heel that wont even last long b4 he falls back down to mid card and everybody stops caring about him.

im all for new blood in the stale main event sceen. But it just dosent make sense that a guy like fucking Sheamus gets it before more deserving superstars

Dude thats basically what I SAID! Now just to be clear I don't like the idea, but you guys really shouldn't start bitching yet! Maybe if Sheamus wins and isn't credible at all, then yeah! But nothing has happened yet! Wait and chill guys.
 
My question is, why are you all bitching about Sheamus?

He got a title shot cause he's Triple H's buddy. That is not a good reason. If he earned it or was talented enough to get a title shot this early into his WWE career, it'd be fine. But he's neither.

I mean you guys always wanted fresh blood! Well here you go.

Fresh blood into the main event, not fresh blood in the WWE shoved into the main event. Fresh blood in the main event is anyone who hasn't had a world title shot, which is a lot of people in the WWE. And Sheamus is in the top 5 WWE wrestlers least deserving of a title shot.

Some people think there doing this for more viewers from Ireland but you know what screw it!

People who think that are idiots. I'm Irish and I couldn't care less about Sheamus.

Sheamus is mehh on the mic and IMO has very good in-ring skills, and if Trip's see's some thing in him, maybe he is a future main eventer to be.

He's never shown anything above average in terms of in-ring skills. 6 months is enough of time to show whether or not you're good in the ring.

And let's think about when Triple H sees something in guys... The last 2 guys Triple H saw something in were Batista and Randy Orton. The former is a guy hated alot by the IWC, the other isn't exactly held in high regard either.

Besides, Sheamus probably wont even win,

He won't win.

but I'm guessing he'll become an upper-midcard player after this,

If he's in a WWE title match that he'll lose, he's already an upper midcard player.

and you know what, thats a very good first two months on RAW! And WWE still has a couple of weeks to build Sheamus up, and maybe (I doubt it) he'll look like a legitimate threat to Cena's title.

So basically, it'll be Umaga and Khali and Big Show and every other big man Cena has faced all over again.

And also Sheamus is probably some one to hold Cena back until WM season which begins at the Rumble. So quit your complaining and just chill and watch what happens.

I'm not complaining about Sheamus being in a WWE title match, because I believe Cena can carry him to a decent match. But if you don't get where people are coming from with their complaining about Sheamus, then you're obviously missing something. The guy is completely unproven, he's arguably not over at all but he is Triple H's buddy so he gets the shot. Do you not see something wrong with that?
 
Why are people bitching about it? Because the IWC in general needs something about the WWE to bitch about. All I've heard for months and months is that new blood needs to be put into the Raw main event. Well it's happened and it's just more of the same. Some are just unwilling to give the guy a chance whatsoever. The WWE pulled something that nobody saw coming, they've put someone brand new into the main event picture, they've got people intrigued, but still a good portion of the IWC bitches.

I don't know whether or Sheamus is going to pan out, but I'm at least going to wait and see what happens at the match before I dog or praise the guy. Whenever I hear the ridiculous comments about the guy's pale skin, I just shake my head with sadness. So the guy doesn't have a tan, big fucking deal. If people are that fickle, then they're probably not going to like the guy no matter what happens. I do think that this is a bold move on the part of the WWE and I do praise them for that.

As far as Sheamus not deserving it, maybe he does and maybe he doesn't. Maybe Jeff Jarrett didn't deserve to be a 10 time world champion, maybe Desmond Wolfe doesn't deserve the push he's getting in TNA. It's all perspective. I like Desmond Wolfe but since he happens to be a darling of the IWC in general, I suppose that's the key that makes his push ok.
 
Not a direct reply at any of you, but I'm glad he's working with a top tier talent. Cena doesn't get the level of respect he deserves, because, admittedly he falls neatly into Vince's love affair with move patterns to get a pop. But when he's left to do a match his own way, vs Swagger, vs HBK, vs Orton (on several occasions, they do swing either way with these two), he's capable of being very entertaining and really putting a guy over.

Guys like Sheamus gain absolutely nothing from squashing jobbers, gain nothing from getting beat by guys like The Miz or John Morrison, because they look just too big to get beat by them. You're better off having them fight against people the crowd accepts as smaller but The midcard isn't a level playing field like people seem to think. Guys need to break away from this tier thinking that the IWC has created in it's collective mind
 
So the guy doesn't have a tan, big fucking deal.for that.

It may not bug you but it does bother others. Its just too pale...its distracts me and because of that I can't take him seriously. I love all the new superstars and i love how their all getting decent pushes..for the most part. But I take exception to a guy like Sheamus..why love a guy I can't take as a serious competitor..sures hes big..sure he can run just tear through people I don't mind all that.. its like Zack Gowen... I'm sure you all remember that kid and his dreams...I applaud him for following his dreams but honestly who can take a one legged wrestler serious? I'm sorry but hes the one guy I really cant take seriously everybody else is fine.

Sheamus is just the odd guy out for me. I don't have faith in him because I don't think WWE will maintain their faith in him ether. after they constantly bring in new talent to test them only to be dropped down the ladder or just released completely. I'm not going to get excited about a guy who probably wont main event more than 3 PPV's.

Hey I could be wrong. It wouldn't surprise me one bit, but this is just how I feel over the guy. Not to offend you jack your one of my favorite posters to read from. I just feel I needed to elaborate on my post a bit so people know where i'm coming from .
 
It may not bug you but it does bother others. Its just too pale...its distracts me.


I actually complete agree. When he was in that match at Survivor series.. It was all these tan guys and then this really incredibly pale guy. It looked a little outlandish and well.. It just didn't look right.
 
You know the funny thing?

If someone in this thread said "I can't stand Mark Henry because he's Black. I mean, here he is in Survivor Series with 10 other guys who are all white, and he is just distracting with his dark Black color" ..... we would have a shit storm ignited in this thread, and rightfully so.

Maybe it's best that people stop acting like a bunch of Nazis in terms of people's skin color and tone on here, and actually come into the 21st century ... where we put that kind of "I don't like so and so because of their skin color" mentality behind us because it really serves no purpose.

What people are essentially saying is that "Sheamus shouldn't have a job because he's too White". And that, quite frankly, is pathetic to suggest this, because we are talking about a man's skin color/tone-- something he has no control over.

How would you like it if everyone else was born pale white ... and you tried to break into the business, and people didn't like your tan color ... because "you don't look like everyone else, and are therefore distracting"?
 
You are right... I just meant he looked really pale against everyone else. I didn't say I was hating on him for it. I just meant like it looked a little awkward with him being SO pale next to everyone. I am sorry if that seemed to come off racist I didn't necessarily mean it that way.

His skin color doesn't mean shit if he can wrestle. Haha or at least entertain.
 
You know the funny thing?

If someone in this thread said "I can't stand Mark Henry because he's Black. I mean, here he is in Survivor Series with 10 other guys who are all white, and he is just distracting with his dark Black color" ..... we would have a shit storm ignited in this thread, and rightfully so.

Maybe it's best that people stop acting like a bunch of Nazis in terms of people's skin color and tone on here, and actually come into the 21st century ... where we put that kind of "I don't like so and so because of their skin color" mentality behind us because it really serves no purpose.

What people are essentially saying is that "Sheamus shouldn't have a job because he's too White". And that, quite frankly, is pathetic to suggest this, because we are talking about a man's skin color/tone-- something he has no control over.

How would you like it if everyone else was born pale white ... and you tried to break into the business, and people didn't like your tan color ... because "you don't look like everyone else, and are therefore distracting"?

The thing is, Sheamus isn't being hated on because he's white, it's because he's so white. It's not the white race, it's his actual skin. Even if it was for his race, people wouldn't care much because it isn't racist to talk about the majority like that, but that's not really the point so I'll move on.

If people came in here saying Mark Henry sucked because he was black, they'd be called KKK members and would be banned in a heartbeat. That's just the way it is.

Anyway, I don't really mind the fact that Sheamus is really white, that's pretty irrelevant. I'm not even going to complain about his goofy looking hair, as I don't think that's a big issue either.

The only problem I have with Sheamus is the fact that he's done nothing of note in the WWE to get a World Title Shot against the #1 guy. Sure, everything will likely end up fine and it should be a somewhat decent match that'll get Sheamus over, but I can't help but get over the fact that this should've been Swagger's push and Swagger's match.

O well, I guess the Irish need something after the whole handball fiasco.
 
The thing is, Sheamus isn't being hated on because he's white, it's because he's so white. It's not the white race, it's his actual skin.

And I know this. But even so, do you know how absolutely pathetic and incredibly shallow this sounds?

"I can't like Sheamus because he is too white, and it's distracting."

The point is that it's not like he is blinding people with his white skin. You can still easily see him wrestle and do his job, get heat, etc. So what is the problem? Who the Hell cares if his skin color is "too White"? Is this something that people really can't deal with?
 
It's not because it's distracting, it's becasue it isn't "the look" that most pro wrestlers have. Most every wrestlers nowadays, especially in the main event, is rather bronzed and what the ladies would call "hot." Sheamus likely gives off more of a creepy, weirdo vibe to most fans. I don't see anything wrong with that though. He is different looking than most main eventers, and isn't that the point of this whole thing?

Like I said, I don't care about his skin as much as I do the fact that he's more or less average.
 
I was just wondering because I see this reason a lot on here... Why is Sheamus getting the push?? The one common answer I see on the Forums is... because he is HHH's workout buddy.. Who from WWE said this was the reason for the push?? Or is this just one of the IWC " I think I know about the business" answer??
 
I was wondering the same thing. I can't think of another reason besides him being from the Games workout bud. He isn't really a "monster" that Vince loves, and he really hasn't estabilshed credibility with the fans yet. I really don't understand this move.
 
Personally, I like Sheamus' look. It sets him apart from every other "cookie cutter" wrestler the WWE has. It doesn't matter what color his skin is or how his facial hair looks or whatever. His look draws attention, and attention is always a good thing in pro wrestling. If he can prove to be good in high profile situations, we may be dealing with the real deal here, no one knows for sure yet. I hope he never does the whole "spray tan til I don't know my own skin color" like most of the roster. He caught my attention and that's all I care about. I personally like what I've seen so far and hope to see more.
 
yeah about that. Who really cares what he looks like? as long as he doesn't look seroiusly ugly ( which he, or any Wresters or my mistake Entertianer wouldn't be ) or is pickin his nose or anything like that it shouldn't be an issue
 
I think Sheamus is cool. I see everyone's point but do not agree with those who do not feel he is deserving. My opinion is that WWE is trying to do more to help Cena than they are to help Sheamus. With the PG era and Cena getting enough heat from the crowd as he is, I think WWE is trying to throw a guy in there that the live crowd [who most likely do not know he is a HHH buddy] can hate. WWE's target audience in my opinion is not the internet fans it is the young kids in the audience whom the PG rating is geared toward. WWE wants Cena to be a hero to these kids and like The Body said they want to sell Cena merchandise. They cant keep putting Cena in matches where the other guy is going to get cheered [DX, Orton]. Putting Kofi in there would not help Cena at all, my opinion is Kofi would get half the audience behind him. Putting Kofi in the match would halt his program with Orton, and I'm sure alot of you wouldnt be happy with that either. Kofi will get his time and will be bigger than Sheamus. As for Dibiase I think WWE is waiting too long to pull the switch on his face turn, but at the same time it would interupt Kofi/Orton.

Bottom line - my opinion - I am a big Sheamus fan and hope he doesnt end up like a Snitski, Knox, Khali. He could be a huge star [as a heel]. I dont think his being Irish and his pale skin will cause him to fizzle out. His look goes to my point about elevating Cena. The guy is scary looking, little kids are going to want Cena to beat his ass.

I agree w/ the wait and see approach. Keep an open mind and remember the internet fans are not the only fans in wrestling.
 
I really like Sheamus and his Celtic Warrior look but I think he should of had a more worthwhile feud with someone before having this sort of title shot. Right now, his biggest opponents were Goldust and Shelton Benjamin and they stopped that feud halfway.

I think if they would of done the #1 contender's by a singles tournament it would be much better as Sheamus could of looked strong throughout an entire tournament during singles matches which would quickly build him some reputation. But when it is by a Battle Royal, the winner rarely gets any serious backing and the match does not help build the character of the winner, he is just a lucky winner. It seems that WWE hasn't learned that from all the Diva Battle Royals they had...

Personally, I would of thought Ted Dibaise should of gotten the #1 Contenders. Causing Randy Orton to get mad that Ted stole "his" title shot and starting a feud between them, allowing Cena to keep the title yet lets Ted develop his character much more. But with Legacy practically dropping from the roster lately I guess that won't ever happen.

The last problem is the timing, the next PPV after TLC is the Royal Rumble I believe. One of the biggest PPV of the WWE, I do not see the wwe having someone like Sheamus take the title into that level of ppv. However what I do see possible is Sheamus winning the title and then losing it the very next night on RAW. I am interested in how they are going to promote Sheamus in the next few weeks through as right now he is threatening at all to the title.
 
Ted/Orton would ruin the Kofi/Orton feud which is just getting really good. I agree Ted/Orton need to feud but it needs to wait. At the same time, I think they are waiting too long to do something w/ Ted or Cody.

As for Sheamus - he needs to win the title at TLC and then lose it at the Rumble. Would cause more heat for him and more support for Cena. Think about it. A bunch of you would probably say you will boycott WWE and switch to TNA but you wont, so stop saying it.
 
And I know this. But even so, do you know how absolutely pathetic and incredibly shallow this sounds?

"I can't like Sheamus because he is too white, and it's distracting."

The point is that it's not like he is blinding people with his white skin. You can still easily see him wrestle and do his job, get heat, etc. So what is the problem? Who the Hell cares if his skin color is "too White"? Is this something that people really can't deal with?

Do you have such a problem with other people's opinions you have to shit all over them? Good God, man! Do i have to fucking like everybody? If I don't like somebody, there's usually a reason behind it. All I'm saying is that I can't take him seriously because hes so fucking pale.

Like honestly, I don't think I've seen somebody so pale like Sheamus. It's not like I hate the guy with a full out passion its just the fact that hes sooo damn pale. i have no doubt in his ability but I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are to yours.

And whats so damn pathetic about it? If i sat here and called your stupid rants about us WWE Shareholders and how Vince has us wrapped around his little finger...whats more pathetic? It may not be distracting to you but it is to me. god damn it do you even listen to yourself half the time? i come on here express my opinion but i should of known better for you to come on here and tear right into it...do you EVER agree with anybody but yourself?chill the fuck out. I don't hate him because of his skin color... it just distracts me that's all. I just hate how he's booked. "Shallow"? "Pathetic"? Whatever. Say what you want.

1. I cant take him seriously because hes too pale(THIS IS NOT THE REASON WHY I HATE HIM)..not cuz hes to white..just cuz hes to pale.

2. I Don't hate him because hes white. I hate him because of the way hes been booked ever since he came to raw, which I know i know is not his fault. For me he just doesn't have that factor that's going to make me like him. does that make me such a horrible person?because I dislike somebody?

3. I don't have to like a guy because everybody does. Everybody has their flaws. Sheamus just happens to be his incredibly pale skin.
 
While I'm glad to finally see someone new dropped into the title hunt, Sheamus just seems to me like the second coming of Snitsky. Whether he's buddies with Trips or not, these "unstoppable monster" types always have a brief shelf life. They get their two or three PPV main events and then it's relinquished to the mid-card before disappearing. Sheamus still hasn't shown enough to determine whether or not he's got what it takes to stick around. He might be a lucky one, but thus far, he seems pretty generic to me.... :suspic:
 

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