Say Thank You To The Hollywood Part-Timer

[Pay Per Ghost]

Now few things ruffle my feathers so keenly: People making me wait and Internet folks ignoring blatant facts to believe so called "reports".

Case in point -

A few things, the man isn't a bonafide megastar like The Rock, then again who is? Austin is a straight to DVD guy, Nash has had his bit roles and don't even get me started on the WWE studio flicks. Anyway, Batista is a guy who is (when compared to other crossover wrestlers) a big deal at the moment with his new Marvel Movie coming up. But lets see what the man has done since he's been back

- Won RR 2014
- Worked with ADR
- Submitted to DBry at Mania
- Got Pinned by Reigns at ER

The man HAS put people over like fuck since he has been back. He hasn't been some big shot throwing his weight around, he has done the job, cleanly may I add and been stellar in that ring. So for some reports to claim that he isn't happy losing to a smaller guy and shit; pffft baloney. Here is a man that gave D Bry a chance back in 2010 when he was a nobody.

Batista has been great so far and done his part impeccably.


Did You Know? Batista didn't even get his pyro during his Mania entrance. coz Orton's band's stuff was still there.

Also, is he starting to look like Jay Pritchett from Modern Family to any of you's? No? Just me? Alright.


So yeah, Batista, reports and his role, discuss people...

 

[boywithbluehanger]

I agree. People blow Batista's involvement way out of proportion. He came in with the intent of returning a babyface who'd help put over some talent eventually. The crowd (heavily influenced by a growing support of IWC members) obviously wasn't happy with the thought of him possibly winning the championship and the writing changed to acclimate the IWC. He was a good camper about it all and allowed for his heel transformation to take place without any known fuss. I definitely agree and I do thank him for being classier than I would have expected.


(I can see the Jay similarities lol... Actually, I think he looks more like Gannondorf from the Zelda games.)

 

[Jeritron5000]

They brought Batista back to win the rumble and have him go on to main event Mania as a mega face to take the title from Orton. When they booed him at the rumble he flipped off fans and suggested we "deal with it." Plans changed when NOBODY found this as an acceptable scenario for Mania. To say the this is the IWC's doing is completely blind (and deaf). He didn't get over the way they thought he would. Period. And his crossover appeal will be determined based on the actual popularity and success of Guardians of the Galaxy when it's released.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

It's true that Batista's put people over and I give the guy credit for ultimately doing it. He could've been all huffy and thrown some sort of temper tantrum, could've decided to walk out half an hour before Extreme Rules last night as Punk did at the post WrestleMania Raw.

IF, IF, IF the reports that've been coming out in regards to Batista taking time off after ER last night or Raw tonight are true, rather than June, then it seems big Dave hasn't been all that thrilled about putting other guys over. The latest reports allege that Batista doesn't have a problem with Daniel Bryan or Roman Reigns, his problem comes from WWE changing things from what was originally planned. Again, IF all of this is true, then the problem seems to be this: Batista was expecting to come back to the adulation of the fans, handed a prime spot at WrestleMania XXX, win the title, spend the summer as WWE World Heavyweight Champion, being champion at the premiere of his film & while promoting the film. Essentially, the impression I'm getting from the allegations in these reports is that Batista was expecting to get treated like The Rock did, but it hasn't happened and he's pissed off about it.

If it's true, I can understand why he'd be upset. After all, the reports indicate that he believed it was gonna be the glory days all over again. Plans had to change, however, because most fans simply didn't dig the notion of Batista being the top guy in WWE in the year 2014, especially after being gone for nearly 4 years.

Personally, I've never been a big Batista fan. My opinion is he's generally someone that has a great look and presence, but he's completely average to subpar in every other area. If I had to pick between 10 guys exactly like Batista or 1 Daniel Bryan, I'm going with the latter. If Batista's genuinely upset over all this just as Punk was alleged to be upset over working a WM against Triple H, then maybe he needs to put his ego in check. It's getting to the point where WWE can't rely on a lot of the "old guard" anymore because...well they're getting old. Taker's almost 50 and he looked to be in really rough shape this year. Triple H is in his mid 40s and has a ton of executive responsibilities while being groomed to take over from Vince at some point. The Rock has a hugely revived career as an action star. Stone Cold Steve Austin's been retired for over a decade. Mick Foley's just flat out beat to hell and can hardly walk some days. Edge was forced to retire or risk being paralyzed. Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair are both in their 60s and are so broken down that they won't be medically cleared to wrestle. Christian's been having injury issues pile up over the past couple of years and has been sidelined twice over the past year due to concussions. Kane turned 47 earlier this year and there've been reports of him seriously considering getting into politics in the next few years. Rob Van Dam's well into his 40s and isn't remotely interested in working anything resembling a full time schedule. If Kurt Angle showed up in WWE, there's no guarantee that he'd be able to step due to age and the wear & tear of the business that's definitely caught up to him the past few years. Randy Orton and John Cena are only 34 & 36 years old, but a LOT of fans are just bored with them because they've been so consistently on top for so long. Brock Lesnar wouldn't care if WWE thrives or croaks tomorrow as long as he's gotten as much money as he can from them. The company is having to start thinking about the future and the younger guys who can carry the company for the next decade or so, which means Vince & Trips finally realized that it's a waste of time and...well...not "best for business" to stroke Batista's ego.

 

[The Butcher]

Thank him for what exactly? Returning in order to up his visibility before his movie comes out? Winning the Rumble? A milquetoast feud with ADR? Doing what he's told and putting over two of the hottest acts going? No, not going to be doing that.

Nothing against Batista, but things in WWE would've likely worked out pretty much just as they are without him, minus a near fan uprising at the Royal Rumble. As good as last night's 6-man tag was, it's not as if Batista was the one who made it great.

Let's not make him out to be more than he is or act is if he's going above and beyond the call of duty. Batista isn't doing us any favors; he's doing his job.

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

He did his job, no more no less...

He definitlly comed back at wrong time. And his time there will be remembered for "Bootista". Maybe most loudest chant yesterday at Extreme Rules other then "Yes" chants lol

 

[Trill Co$by]

People, what we're really forgetting here is that...

Brock Lesnar conquered The Undertaker's Undefeated Streak at WrestleMania!
Brock Lesnar conquered The Undertaker's Undefeated Streak at WrestleMania!

The BEAST Incarnate, Brock Lesnar, conquered "The Deadman" The Undertaker's Undefeated Streak at WrestleMania, WITH his dime piece Michelle McCool at ringside.

How is all of that relevant to Batista? Simple, it proves how different their egos truly are. Sure, reports are circulating that Batista is refusing to job to Bryan at Payback, but wouldn't you be too? Batista is going to be a big role in an upcoming definite Marvel Comics Blockbuster hit, and since he's been back, he's been booed out of the stands for something he didn't control, took the SUBMISSION loss at WrestleMania 30, and lost to his own finisher at Extreme Rules... Meanwhile, the overrated MMA fighter who hasn't brought much attention to WWE since returning two years ago was able to conquer the biggest streak in WWE this side of Andre's 16 year undefeated streak, and what does he do? He sits at home collecting an even bigger pay check every time Paul Heyman utters that line.

I give Batista credit because for the most part, Batista carried a lot of that 6-Man tag match and if you don't believe me then watch it on WWE Network. He was the workhorse throughout it, and even in the triple threat at WM30. He deserves to go out at Payback with a victory. Why not have Orton lose at Payback? He DOES have a rematch clause... plus, it gives Daniel Bryan that clean title win over Orton that he hasn't had EVER.

Why can't Batista go out at Payback with a win over someone like Kane? Why not?

 

[Pedigree1]

Batista has indeed put people over,that is a fact and good for him.. He could have been all pissy about it,moaned and groaned about putting talent over,which is what he should be doing anyway IMO.. So really are we congratulating him in doing this?? Jericho does this,RVD does this,its because their expected to pay back the business that has been so kind to them..

Batista was expected to leave in June but i guess he thinks now is the perfect time. I am not sure what batista honestly thought what would happen upon his return.. Clearly he has a short memory,its the way he left.. I would take 1 Daniel Bryan over 100 batistas. I will not pretend to know what was in his contract,maybe he was promised the moon and stars and people would kiss his feet upon Dave just being in their mere presence.

Batista has been despised since he returned at the Royal Rumble. Anyone could have won it,except him. The WWE got wise,realized we cant have this guy be our champion and quickly changed plans.

So again why exactly are we thanking batista for putting over talent?? The guy is a complete asshole,dont let the door hit you on the way out Dave.. He is in his mid 40's well past his prime,and if he was expecting the rock kind of Treatment "Well Then Im Afraid I got Some Bad News"

 

[Trill Co$by]

Batista has been despised since he returned at the Royal Rumble. Anyone could have won it,except him. The WWE got wise,realized we cant have this guy be our champion and quickly changed plans.

I am so tired of reading this statement, when I firmly believe it is 100% inaccurate. Daniel Bryan was going to be in the Main Event at WrestleMania either way. The only person that altered anything was CM Punk, who would've had a mediocre match with HHH anyway. I firmly believe that Daniel Bryan would've had the same storyline he had going into Mania, only he would've faced Kane or someone else to get into that match. Who knows, maybe they would've mixed the Kane/Daniel Bryan Extreme Rules feud into it to give Daniel an even bigger outcome for Mania.

At the end of the day, I think Mania was 100% slated to be Batista vs. Randy vs. Daniel Bryan; and only if Batista hadn't come back would it have been different.

 

[LBGetBack]

I noticed the OP said "stellar in the ring". STELLAR??? Batista? Come on. Passable is more like it.

And it really doesn't sit right with me that Chris Jericho came back to HUGE cheers(until he wouldn't talk and turned the fans on him....LMAO), and DIDN'T win the Rumble. And then a few years later Batista came back to very little reaction, and won the Rumble.

They picked the wrong returning vet to let win the Rumble.

 

[crytista]

kind of makes you ask what was the point of it all. chances are he's leaving unhappy Again. If his movie wasn't coming up would batista still be brought back? If people think he was the workhorse of last nights match what about the shield ?

he's leaving to do his movie. He came back after 4 years to be handed A RR win & Headlines WM 30. Things could have gone on without him. So now what every time a WWE star does a movie they get a TITLE SHOT ?

 

[Mitch Henessey]

I'll admit, I mellowed on Batista since his return. Like a lot of fans, I wasn't happy about a Batista with poor cardio and in-ring shape coming back, winning the Rumble on the following Sunday after his return, and WWE pushing him as this huge mega star, who had the main event at Wrestlemania XXX.

With that said, WWE is not Batista's main priority anymore. Brock Lesnar is a mercenary, who's motivated by big paychecks, and The Rock's movie career is the top priority for him. Batista is trying to jump start his movie career, and now he's focused on promoting Guardians Of The Galaxy. He did his job, but that's not enough for a congratulatory pat on the back in my eyes.

Also, if the reports about Batista refusing to lose to Bryan again, because he believes another lose to a smaller guy will hurt his image are true, then Batista needs get over himself. It's not 2005 anymore.

 

[IT Factor]

I think the OP hit the nail on the head here. Batista is a guy that is similar to Cena and Orton in that some fans will bitch about him no matter what he does or does not do. Batista is a star whether he is popular or not. He has been delivering much better than other part timers like RVD or Brock Lesnar and he is there more often than they are too since his return. If anything WWE "creative" has screwed the pooch on what should have been a great return and final run for Dave Batista. Given everything he has been putting up with creatively and financially, I am surprised he's stuck around this long....

 

[Fanai]

Most wrestling fans nowadays have childlike mentality, if they don't get what they want they whine and "hijack"the shows. They boo and cheer people because it is "cool" to, not because they are bad or good. The WWE shouldn't pander to all these whines cause it only makes the story telling even worst tham it already is.

Batista is a good wrestler but there is no place for those type of wrestlers in the wwe anymore. People forget fast and get tired very quickly. The internet is beeing a bad influence for the WWE, period. This should be a entertainment show like any other, if people like it they watch it if they don't they simply just need to quit watching it... Let the story unveil and stop demanding stuff...

 

[kadroan]

Dirtsheets aren't always true so who knows if he's really leaving. For all we know, creative may try to take advantage of The Shield/Evolution angle and let it be the biggest angle of the summer.

Batista did his job. Helped make Reigns look like an equal at RR. TAPPED not PINNED by Bryan despite the height/weight advantage. Put Reigns over again at ER.

 

[rge2010]

I don't believe the Wrestlezone reports one little bit. It is simply that greasy schmuck Paglino making up crap he has read on Twitter.

Batista is a pro, he is back to entertain and do the job and so far so good. He is much better as a bad guy, but ultimately I think he will leave Evolution and turn face.

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

It's clear folks don't want Batista anywhere near a title shot or even feuding in a main event roll. He's not going to influence the box office of his new Marvel movie in any way, because no one likes him.

Now, has his roll since coming back been admirable? Maybe. Maybe Big Dave decided to get paid and just simply put people over as opposed to swing his political dick around and putting himself in position to be a champion or in a long-term program as champion.

Him winning the Royal Rumble was absurd. He didn't need to win it. Bryan could have had even MORE momentum going into Wrestlemania if he had won RR by coming in at #1 or something. Batista could have been inserted into the fray by The Authority without winning the RR.

Other than that, as long as Batista isn't around a major storyline by himself where he can potentially bury some up and comer, I have no problems with him being in the WWE right now.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

Most wrestling fans nowadays have childlike mentality, if they don't get what they want they whine and "hijack"the shows. They boo and cheer people because it is "cool" to, not because they are bad or good. The WWE shouldn't pander to all these whines cause it only makes the story telling even worst tham it already is.

Do you honestly think that a straight up Batista vs. Orton feud would have made a better story than what we got, as a result of the fan reaction to both Batista and Bryan? If anything WWE has the fans to take since they managed to create a moment for Daniel Bryan at WM and a great story that lead to it that may and/or may not have been planned.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

I am so tired of reading this statement, when I firmly believe it is 100% inaccurate. Daniel Bryan was going to be in the Main Event at WrestleMania either way. The only person that altered anything was CM Punk, who would've had a mediocre match with HHH anyway. I firmly believe that Daniel Bryan would've had the same storyline he had going into Mania, only he would've faced Kane or someone else to get into that match. Who knows, maybe they would've mixed the Kane/Daniel Bryan Extreme Rules feud into it to give Daniel an even bigger outcome for Mania.

I question that idea that it was "the plan all along". Even if WWE wanted to do the Screw Job angle where they try to prevent Bryan from winning the Rumble then they could still have put Bryan at the Rumble only to get screwed from winning it. It would have created heat for the Authority, kept Bryan in the Rumble match for more fanfare, and continued on with the direction of the intended story.

Also Batista was turned heel, no way that was part of the plan.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Thank him for what exactly? Returning in order to up his visibility before his movie comes out? Winning the Rumble? A milquetoast feud with ADR? Doing what he's told and putting over two of the hottest acts going? No, not going to be doing that.

Nothing against Batista, but things in WWE would've likely worked out pretty much just as they are without him, minus a near fan uprising at the Royal Rumble. As good as last night's 6-man tag was, it's not as if Batista was the one who made it great.

Let's not make him out to be more than he is or act is if he's going above and beyond the call of duty. Batista isn't doing us any favors; he's doing his job.

EXACTLY. I am not the biggest Batista fan out there, no, thats Dave Batista himself maybe but all these gosh darn reports and shit on the internetz has my tassles twirling.

Give the man his credit and say well done. Good job. He WON the Rumble, I know it doesn't mean much now (even significantly lesser this year and how that never even came to prominence with the D Bry rise), but he did win it and they had other plans for him surely. Punk leaving may have altered that or maybe thats how it was written for Bryan all along. Nevertheless, he came back to job to the rising star 2 PPVs in a row. He is being a fine employee at the moment at a time when evurrrrabody keeps saying how unhappy he is.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

AND may I add to those who say he is not stellar in the ring, are you kidding me? Those people are fucking muppets who chant 'you can't wrestle' at him. He is a great big man in this industry and deserves where he is. He has had great feuds and matches and is still that much intense and charismatic in that ring,


You heard me my friends, HE.CAN.WORK.

 

[a member of wwe universe]

Thank him for what exactly? Returning in order to up his visibility before his movie comes out? Winning the Rumble? A milquetoast feud with ADR? Doing what he's told and putting over two of the hottest acts going? No, not going to be doing that.

If hes being told what to do then why blame him for winning the rumble and that milquetoast feud with an afterthought ADR? The guy even said on an interview that him returning as babyface wouldn't work, its gonna die down but creative wanted him to.

He just put over two of the hottest acts in bryan and reigns cleanly in a matter of month. Guess he does not deserve any prop cause hes being told what to do.

Nothing against Batista, but things in WWE would've likely worked out pretty much just as they are without him, minus a near fan uprising at the Royal Rumble. As good as last night's 6-man tag was, it's not as if Batista was the one who made it great.

The 6man tag is a collective effort, nobody is taking all the credit. If things wouldve worked out without batista, there wouldnt even be evolution vs shield, which enhances the shield's credibility.

Im not a huge batista fan and his return was a flop but seeing him getting heat for shits like these really angers me.

 

[The Butcher]

AND may I add to those who say he is not stellar in the ring, are you kidding me? Those people are fucking muppets who chant 'you can't wrestle' at him. He is a great big man in this industry and deserves where he is. He has had great feuds and matches and is still that much intense and charismatic in that ring,


You heard me my friends, HE.CAN.WORK.

Being able to work and being a stellar worker are different things, but it's all the eye of the beholder.

If hes being told whats he being told what to do then why blame him for winning the rumble and that milquetoast feud with an afterthought ADR?

Where did I blame him for anything?

Guess he does not deserves any prop cause hes being told what to do.

Yes, that's the gist of what I said. He hasn't done anything exemplary. He's done his job. That doesn't earn him special recognition.

The 6man tag is a collective effort, nobody is taking all the credit. If Things wouldve worked out without batista, there wouldnt even be evolution vs shield, which enhances the shield's credibility.

Because nobody was taking The Shield seriously.

Im not a huge batista fan and his return was a flop but seeing him getting heat for shits like these really angers me.

Go after someone else, dipshit. I said I've got nothing against Batista, and I don't. I've said numerous times that I love "Douchebag Dave." Heel Batista is entertaining. He's just not anything special or doing anything special. If you or anyone else wants to get in line behind the Divas and slurp his ball bag, have at it; I'll be over here in the hyperbole-free zone.