Save_US.RawTagDivision

[chickenfinger47]

Man the RAW tag division is bogged down these days. I was wondering what you guys think we can do tosave this damn thing. London and Cade are both injured and who knows when they are comming back. Holly and Rhodes suck, they are boring as hell. Lito and Tino are comedy gold but as muck as I love Santino, he sucks at wrestling.

A good Idea to me is to form a Killings/Burke team. They would bring some excitement and athleticism to th Tag Division.

Another idea is bringing Deuce and Domino to RAW, sure there in a thing with Kane right now but they are a team at least.

so what u think RAW should do

 

[Sparky]

Man the RAW tag division is bogged down these days. I was wondering what you guys think we can do tosave this damn thing. London and Cade are both injured and who knows when they are comming back. Holly and Rhodes suck, they are boring as hell. Lito and Tino are comedy gold but as muck as I love Santino, he sucks at wrestling.

A good Idea to me is to form a Killings/Burke team. They would bring some excitement and athleticism to th Tag Division.

Another idea is bringing Deuce and Domino to RAW, sure there in a thing with Kane right now but they are a team at least.

so what u think RAW should do

i think they should give londen and kendrick the tittles again man those guys where good as champs. if you was to push them and have some other tag teams to fued with the tag team belts might get more credabillity then what they have at the moment. or even reform the APA and have them as tag team champions.

Or if jeff doesnt win the wwe title at royal rumble move matt over to raw so we can see at least one more TLC match.

I dont see cade and murdoch winning the belts again when they where champions they barely even wrestled and they defended it even less.

duece and domino might be good but they need to change their gimmicks because the "grease" wannabes just dont cut it imo.

 

[Bottom_Line]

I love the APA idea, and once JBL is done with Jericho it could even be possible. I think the best idea is to stick two guys together who hate each other. Like Kennedy and Michaels or something. Have them forced on a team and win the titles quick, and then create a storyline through that angle.

 

[King-Aldo]

We've already seen that with Michaels and Cena, so if the Kennedy/Michaels World Tag Champ thing happened, people would say

"WWE did this last year"

I think the best thing to do is give Carlito and Santino the Tag Team Straps, and fued with London and Kendrick (thats what WWE should do WITH the tag teams they already have).

If they were to bring in a new tag team, APA as mention would kick ass, so would a Killings/Burke team.

WWE should bring back Cryme Tyme. Damn I miss them.

 

[Derf]

With the way the WWE roster is ever so changing, it's no wonder they can't keep a steady tag team storyline. Right now, the best thing they can do is the feud they have between the comedic gold of Santino and Carlito, VS the strait to the poit team of Hardcore Holly and Cody Rhodes. Londrick and Rednecks are both good teams, but you can't build a division out of two teams. Main eventers with Tag gold don't save the tag team disivion, it only pushes some other storyline like a pawn, like when Cena and Micheals had it, it was only to keep them both face going into Mania. The hardys are finally singles superstars, so i only see them tagging together on rare ocasions. And odds are, by the time the current tag team story is over, there will be a new team of sorts on RAW for the winners to take on.

 

[The Big Red Extreme]

Londrick are one of the best tag teams in wrestling today. If they get the tag team titles, maybe the tag team division will become credible again. Rhodes and Holly bore me. I think the only reason they have the titles was to give Rhodes some kind of push and to make people remember Holly again. Carlito and Santino would be good if Santino actually started to wrestle better. You can't have a tag team that just does promos. That being said, i agree with King-Aldo that WWE should bring back Cryme Tyme. Not only could they shoot amazing promos, but they could wrestle, too. They would make amazing champions. I wouldn't be shocked to see them back. WWE tend to give people second chances, and they did make an honest mistake. I just hope they come back soon, for the Tag Team Division's sake.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

In general, Raw needs a tag team division that does not steal time away from their more prominently focused on aspects: the WWE title, the IC title, and the two or three main feuds going on. However, they're severely lacking in the IC range right now, so they need options to reflect that.

First, with Killings coming and Elijah Burke going nowhere on ECW, I'd LOVE to see the two of them team up and be prominent members of the IC title AND as contenders for the tag team championship. To help this out as well, keep Carlito/Santino as the sort of "fun heel" group. Then, for a bit of a balance, the "jobber heel" group could simply be Murdoch/Haas teaming up. Cade needs to move over to Smackdown and have a run at the US title or go over to ECW and be built up. He's too good to stay with Murdoch. For the MAIN face tag team on Raw, put in Yang/Moore, as they could EASILY help out the Intercontinental race whilst covering themselves as a fast-paced, explosive tag team that is fun for the crowd to watch. For secondary faces, use that as an opportunity for random tag teams of faces in the IC title chase, like, I don't know, Rhodes, Lashley, blah blah. As the "jobber face" team, since Rhodes will be moving past Holly soon, just team up Hardcore Holly and Val Venis. They're two veterans that, unless they're in a tag team, will do nothing but lose day in and day out, so this would be better for them. Their gimmick could easily just be a pun on the porn term "hardcore" fitting for Val, while Holly has his own designation with it. Hardcore times two, lol.

Smackdown and ECW need a lot of variety with a lot of different talent. The Edge-Heads headline as heels against Jesse & Festus for faces. Henry and BDV are boring in the ring but they'll fill in as secondary heels. Secondary faces go to Londrick, using them as the fast paced team. Team up Super Crazy & Funaki as the jobbers, since that's all they do anyway, for the final of the three face tag teams. The jobber heels could be the Highlanders. Split Deuce & Domino up so they can develop new personalities. Also, split up Morrison/Miz, as Morrison needs to move himself up to the US title or main event status, since he's good enough. Miz is good as a tag team wrestler, so when things get boring, team him up with someone else that can't get over as a singles competitor...like, Palumbo, or something, and repackage them to allow their styles to mesh. Every so often, just team people up that have nothing better to do. Wouldn't it be more entertaining to see fresh tag teams, even if they lose, than to witness the same job turns every single time around?

RAW: Moore/Yang, Killings/Burke, Carlito/Santino, Holly/Venis, Murdoch/Haas, plus a random face tag team

SD/ECW: Edge-Heads, Jesse/Festus, Londrick, Henry/BDV, Highlanders, Super Crazy & Funaki

 

[bnn52]

I am a huge fan of the Killings/Burke idea. Two great athletes with character could really boost the tag team division, but I have a couple other suggestions as well.

1. Bring back Cryme Tyme as someone stated earlier. I enjoyed watching them. They had a great contrast of wrestling styles.

2. This is out there, but if Chris Harris is coming to the WWE, keep the AMW cowboy gimmick and team him with Jimmy Wang Yang. This would provide good comedy and I think a good team for a good period of time. Kind of a real cowboy teaching Wang Yang to be a real cowboy.

3. I think Santino and Carlito could be a good team, but they need some work before they get the gold. Carlito is great in the ring, but they both have a lot of work to do with tag team wrestling.

4. If possible, try and lure a big team away from TNA like the Dudleys or the James Gang, I know its unlikely because they are both under contract, but when the contracts are up make a big push.

5. I know the New Hart Foundation was nixed, but how about doing a New Bulldogs with DH Smith and a developmental talent from FCW or OVW. Possibly bring in a few new teams from developmental and make one tag team championship that can compete on all brands.

 

[D.Miller]

I am a huge fan of the Killings/Burke idea. Two great athletes with character could really boost the tag team division, but I have a couple other suggestions as well.

1. Bring back Cryme Tyme as someone stated earlier. I enjoyed watching them. They had a great contrast of wrestling styles.

2. This is out there, but if Chris Harris is coming to the WWE, keep the AMW cowboy gimmick and team him with Jimmy Wang Yang. This would provide good comedy and I think a good team for a good period of time. Kind of a real cowboy teaching Wang Yang to be a real cowboy.

3. I think Santino and Carlito could be a good team, but they need some work before they get the gold. Carlito is great in the ring, but they both have a lot of work to do with tag team wrestling.

4. If possible, try and lure a big team away from TNA like the Dudleys or the James Gang, I know its unlikely because they are both under contract, but when the contracts are up make a big push.

5. I know the New Hart Foundation was nixed, but how about doing a New Bulldogs with DH Smith and a developmental talent from FCW or OVW. Possibly bring in a few new teams from developmental and make one tag team championship that can compete on all brands.

I agree with everything except # 4. Let Team 3D stay in TNA. TNA really needs them right now before they can find anymore and better tag teams. But yeah, the Tag Division on RAW is incredibly poor at the moment. I almost forgot who held the Tag belts just for a second, damn, those belts are unworthy pieces of crap right now thanks to WWE.

I also say why not put Kane on RAW, turn him heel and sick once again and have him even team with Umaga and dominate. Both could benefit from this. They could both built to become more monsterous once again as a team. But don't see this happening though.

 

[strafro]

I love the APA idea, and once JBL is done with Jericho it could even be possible. I think the best idea is to stick two guys together who hate each other. Like Kennedy and Michaels or something. Have them forced on a team and win the titles quick, and then create a storyline through that angle.

We also saw this for about two months on Smackdown! a little while back with the whole Matt Hardy and MVP team/feud. It is a temporary solution but IMO it does not help the overall division because how bad does it look when the "best tag team on the brand" (I use that term very loosely) can't even beat two guys that can't stand each other. The only people that benefit from this are the two in the feud as the belts are used merely as a way of keeping their feud going and in the process they usually beat all the "credible" teams on the show in the process.

Now as far as fixing the problem, they need teams that have a team name, matching attire, guys that make sense to team together. I think that usually the best tag teams are developmental talent that come up together that work well together. I said Londrick though as they are one of the best tag teams around right now, they have matching attire, their styles are perfect compliments and they should be pushed.

The Burke/Killings team would work for the obvious reason that they both would not get pushed otherwise. I also think Chris Harris (if aquired) is a great tag team wrestler and could form a solid team with a variety of other workers.

AND BRING BACK CRYME TYME!!! They were a breath of fresh air in an otherwise boring division.

 

[ironman1180]

I am a huge fan of the Killings/Burke idea. Two great athletes with character could really boost the tag team division, but I have a couple other suggestions as well.

1. Bring back Cryme Tyme as someone stated earlier. I enjoyed watching them. They had a great contrast of wrestling styles.

2. This is out there, but if Chris Harris is coming to the WWE, keep the AMW cowboy gimmick and team him with Jimmy Wang Yang. This would provide good comedy and I think a good team for a good period of time. Kind of a real cowboy teaching Wang Yang to be a real cowboy.

3. I think Santino and Carlito could be a good team, but they need some work before they get the gold. Carlito is great in the ring, but they both have a lot of work to do with tag team wrestling.

4. If possible, try and lure a big team away from TNA like the Dudleys or the James Gang, I know its unlikely because they are both under contract, but when the contracts are up make a big push.

5. I know the New Hart Foundation was nixed, but how about doing a New Bulldogs with DH Smith and a developmental talent from FCW or OVW. Possibly bring in a few new teams from developmental and make one tag team championship that can compete on all brands.

1. Cryme Tyme coming back would be good, but they won't. They had way too much heat on 'em when they left.

2. I wouldn't mind Chris Harris teaming with someone, but it'd have to be someone other than Yang for me to get into it.

3. Santino and Carlito could indeed be a good team, if they stick to wrestling. If you put a microphone in either of their hands, it's ruined.

4. Bringing back the Dudleys would be ok, but what I'd really like to see is them bring in Kong. She could beat all of the women, and probably a majority of the men.

5. DH Smith teaming with someone, like I said with Chris Harris, would be a good idea, but it would totally depend on who you put him with. He's still learning the ropes in WWE, no pun intended. If you put him with the wrong person, it'll stunt his growth.

 

[Meilichia]

What really lacks in the tag team division in my opinion are a tag team that have chemistry together, putting two wrestlers together isn't going to make a good tag team.
London and Kendrick worked well because of their similar styles.
Carlito and Marella would work really well because of there comic characters, it would make for a great heel tag team.
Cryme Tyme, I hope WWE realise they shouldn't have let these guys go, they had something the tag team division needed, and that was entertainment. I really would love to see these back.
Cody and Holly, I don't actually mind this, but it's getting stale pretty quickly, Cody Rhodes would work better with a younger guy, I think that should be DH Smith, I don't know why, but I feel they would work well together, with their wrestling styles.
I don't agree with a 'main event' tag team, I wouldn't mind seeing Kennedy work with someone, but not HBK. A main event tag team does nothing for the division in my opinion, as they always appear as the stronger team and eventually squash the division.
In my opinion, the way to save the tag team division on Raw would be to get new wrestlers in there, brought in together, that have a chemistry, and bring Cryme Tyme back.

 

[Sicko]

Tag Division seem to died when they fired Cryme Time I think they was next up but unfortunatly we will never find out I have a feeling we will eventually see them again I hope so because right now the Tag division is so dead

Burke and Killings could really work but I think Burke is too good to be put in a Tag situation but since they are not pushing him as a solo wrestler yet then Why Not?

 

[Freedom 35]

I think Carlito/Santino are a great option for Tag Team champs and would bring plenty of legitimacy to the titles, first off both these guys are tremendous on the mic and both can draw great heat, second of all they both are very promising in the ring Carlito more so than Santino but Ive heard good things about him, and third off theyve both have championship experience Santino is a former IC champion and Carlito is a former IC and US champ who has been on the edge of being a solid main eventer at different points in his career. both of these guys are talented and young ad IMO would bring major legitimacy to the tag team division

 

[agentm005]

Personally, I hate when the WWE puts two superstars together as Tag Champs who hate each other...Plus, it has been done so many times now. I think for the Tag Team division to be "saved," which it desperately does, they need to get some solid teams together that are cohesive. Look at when the Tag scene was shining in the late 90's...You had the Hardys, E&C, and the Dudley's...All solid, cohesive teams with gimmicks.

In today's scene, you have C&M, L&K, D&D, and maybe Jesse and Festus with cohesive gimmicks. Unfortuantely, injuries are hurting the scene. Plus, with the fact that you have two different Tag titles hurts the scene...Fortunately, I do think that WWE has the talent and resources to make two great Tag divisions...

I would definitely keep L&K and C&M on Raw...They are probably the strongest tag teams in the WWE right now...If MNM and Cryme Tyme were still around, that would be 4 great tag teams on Raw...

Then you have D&D, Jesse and Festus on Smackdown...then put together a few more teams...a team like Big Daddy V and Mark Henry would be a dominating Tag Team. Also, maybe a combination of Umaga and Snitsky (although I don't really see Umaga in a tag team with anyone but another Samoan). However, there are plenty of up and coming talent who could get some exposure by being in a well planned out tag team. Look at what it did for Edge, Christian, Matt, and Jeff Hardy.

Unfortuantely, the tag team scene consists of two teams that seem to be just thrown together...There is no cohesiveness and rarely are the belts ever defended...And when they are, does anyone even care? I remember being sooo excited to see the Hardys, Dudley's, and E&C face off...It used to be a highlight for me. Now...eh, well lets just leave it at that.

I think a teaming of Burke and Killings would be a great match and would also alow Burke to show us some more of what he is capable of.

Also, if you want to add a bit more to the tag division, you could give these new young teams a "true test" by having them face off against the Brothers of Destruction or the Hardy's...Although, I don't know if the WWE would really want to throw those 4 guys back into the tag scene, even if it was just for one match...They are multi-time champions and people would expect them to win...and the WWE may allow them to win. That does nothing for a regrowing tag scene...It just further proves that the tag team days of old are superior than today. Plus, all 4 of those guys are more legitimate singles competitors anyways...Why stop the push they all seem to be getting (with the exception of Kane and assuming that once Matt returns, he'll get a push as US champion)?

 

[HBK-aholic]

I currently hate the tag division in the WWE. I look around at all the teams and I think how are any of these going to give us memorable matches and title reigns? If I'm being honest I don't think one team deserves to have the honour of being champions right now.

I also dislike the idea of a 'Main event team'. I think tag teams are better when it's two guys who work together full stop. They're a team and not having a singles career. I think it's also more believable for just a team to win the titles and have matches each week with other teams. I think the tag divison is a lot better when it's separated from the rest. I mean, just look at the title reign of HBK and John Cena. Both are main eventers and great entertainers, but their tag title reign wasn't exactly good. They didn't have great matches, had hardly any competition from proper teams, and everything was based on waiting for Shawn to turn on Cena.

I think team mates need to be suited to each others styles, and this I find the downfall of most new teams. If we just look at some of the main teams in my opinion, I'd have said the Dudley Boyz, Edge and Christian, and the Hardyz. All of these styles suited each other, especially the Dudley Boyz who are arguably the most successful team.

The WWE need to look at their tag division soon. I for one was a huge fan of these matches and I loved the skill involved and the team work between all 4 men in the ring. This is something many newer fans are missing out on and are basing their knowledge of this division on everything happening now.

I think the WWE have a very strong roster in terms of main eventers and mid carders, so should focus some time on signing teams, and putting more effort into the matches. At one point the tag titles were classed as a very prestigous belt to own; I fear this won't happen for much longer.

 

[JulesWagner]

I've been rooting for the arrival of the new Nation of Domination for a while now. But it was just a thing that was never meant to be... Imagine it though: Burke, Benjamin, Lashley as a core, add Shaniqua for the female aspect and you're set with an uber-talented squad with enough mic skills in Burke to Dominate once again. But sadly, for obvious reasons, I'll never see that happen. Although, I believe Burke and Benjamin would better be suited together. Never been a big Killings fan, I'm afraid. Oh well... Tag team wrestling is not what it used to be anyways. Too many random pairings to amount to anything.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

The thing that has destroyed W.W.E.'s Tag Team Division, is they spread themselves out too thin. They released (or broke up) all of their known Tag Teams. And they left themselves with slim to none. Looking at the Raw brand alone.. this is basically it.

Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch: In 2005, this team wasn't even on the map. They had a poor first run as Tag Team Champions, defeating the Hurricane and Rosey. This was truly the beginning of the downfall for the Tag Team division.

Now, personally, Cade and Murdoch have become such a great team.. because they're basically the only remaining solid Tag Team left. They work well together, their gimmick is solid, they have Tag Team moves. All in all, the best team Raw has.

Paul London and Brian Kendrick: They carried the Tag Team Championships for almost a year.. that in itself, says volumes for this team. The only sad thing is.. they were two single's guys, who didn't have a direction, so they were placed together on a "whem" and it just (luckily) worked.

London and Kendrick won't ever in my mind be a solid Tag Team worth carrying the Raw division, however, because they aren't big enough to seemingly hang with the rest of the Raw roster. (Each week Kendrick is getting squashed in single's matches..) Upon London's return, I'm sure they'll get a push.. but its naive to think they'd be great, in a division thats less than average.

Cody Rhodes and Hardcore Holly: Another perfect example of two guys without direction, that were simply placed together. And they're the Tag Team Champions! I've yet to see either of these two perform ONE "tag" move. They act as if they're two single's wrestlers, just working through a handicap match.. only tagging out when they're tired.

Highlanders: I'm not exactly sure how solid this team was originally suppose to be. I never got into the "Roddy Piper like" gimmick for them, but I think it would've helped a lot more had they actually brought Piper in to be their manager. The only saving grace this team has, is they both suck so much as single's stars, they're at least decent to watch when they perform Tag Team moves.

Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Super Crazy: I'm purely tossing names in a hat from this point on. I mean seriously, do I even have to explain that these two will NEVER get a run for Tag Team gold? So whats the point in seeing them as a Team every random Monday night?

Opinion for the Future: I think they need to start defining either a co-brand Tag Team division.. in other words, bring all 3 brands together for their Tag Team division, at least. Or they need to start developing more serious Tag Teams.. instead of randomly sticking two single's guys without storylines, together as a team.

 

[ECWildsider]

I am a huge fan of the Killings/Burke idea. Two great athletes with character could really boost the tag team division, but I have a couple other suggestions as well.

1. Bring back Cryme Tyme as someone stated earlier. I enjoyed watching them. They had a great contrast of wrestling styles.

2. This is out there, but if Chris Harris is coming to the WWE, keep the AMW cowboy gimmick and team him with Jimmy Wang Yang. This would provide good comedy and I think a good team for a good period of time. Kind of a real cowboy teaching Wang Yang to be a real cowboy.

3. I think Santino and Carlito could be a good team, but they need some work before they get the gold. Carlito is great in the ring, but they both have a lot of work to do with tag team wrestling.

4. If possible, try and lure a big team away from TNA like the Dudleys or the James Gang, I know its unlikely because they are both under contract, but when the contracts are up make a big push.

5. I know the New Hart Foundation was nixed, but how about doing a New Bulldogs with DH Smith and a developmental talent from FCW or OVW. Possibly bring in a few new teams from developmental and make one tag team championship that can compete on all brands.

These are al good ideas, but it has been said a thousand times in articles I have read that the true art of Tag Team wrestling has died. I wish there were teams like VKM or New Age Outlaws, Dudleys, The Road Warriors, Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson, Demolition or the Hart Foundation, but unless WWE places a great deal of focus any of the top possibilities no matter what brand they are on will fail.

All apologize to any great team I didn't mention, but I grew up wanting to be a Tag Team Champion with my best freind because we idolized some of the greatest.

 

[watchingandwaiting]

The problem with the Tag division is that there are never more than two teams (the champs and the #1 contenders) that are made to look strong. Therefore, whenever new #1 contenders are elevated, the only way they can get over is to make the current champs look weak by beating them in non-title and singles matches. If there were secondary feuds between teams not currently in title contention, it would allow for booking that would allow the champs to look strong and at the same time build up a pool of strong contenders to challenge them. Until this change in booking strategy occurs, no "quick fix" (ie the APA, teams of new guys, teams of established guys) will revive the tag division.

 

[Electric Wizard]

Killings/Burke would totally kick ass.They both have tremendous ring skills and would make a great team together and they could have some cool feuds with like London/Kendrick and possibly Rhodes/Holly, they could have awesome matches even against eachother Burke and Killings could.

I really like that idea alot and I never really even thought about it until now to be honest.

 

[Coles92]

I think that Killings/Burke would be a really good team, but I don't think the WWE would put them together..Well I don't know they might do, but they should.

How can you say let Team 3D stay in TNA?? I like TNA and I know that they should have Team 3D, but I would love to see them back on RAW putting people through tables.

Also, I would love it if the APA got back together properly and won the belts, but I think JBL is passed it isn't he??

And I know that Cryme Tyme had a sad little fight thing with C&M, but they were really good, loads of people liked them. I thought they were just getting good when WWE released them, I would love to see these guys back again too.

 

[Ex-Degenerate]

The tag situation has been bad for the last 3 or 4 years. In the Attitude area, u had great teams like the Hardys, Dudleys, Edge/Christain, and APA. these were great teams with personalites that made decent storylines.

The best now would be Carlito/Santino. Problem is, u need another great team or two to fued them with to push the tag divison. The Cody Rhoads/ Hardcore Holly team is ok, but nether has really good mic skills to sell any storyline.

 

[Mr. TM]

I believe the best thing to do is to give the titles to Carlito and Santino, as well as pushing Cade and Murdoch, London and Kendrick, and Cody and Holly. Create some big named matches, some 4 faces vs 4 heels, ladder matches (C/S vs L/K ladder match would be awesome), maybe get Hardcore holly and Code Rhodes to use chairs in matches, lance cade and trevor murdock to use tables... see where I am going? I think all 8 of them are good athletes, and see the RAW tag Team division improving, if only given 20 minutes a night, thats only under 1/6th of the show, leaving 1/6 of the time for the divas, 1/6 for vince and horny, 1/6 for the IC, 1/6 for the main event, and 1/6 for others, or overruns.

 

[greenbeast95]

The issue last year was that there were NO tag-teams. We have tag-teams now, Rhodes/Holly, Murdoch/Cade, Santino/Carlito, Kendrick/London, Highlanders, Deuce/Domino, Edgeheads, Jesse/Festus. We truly at this point don't need NEW tag teams, we need STORYLINES, and continued weekly air time for the story. WWE has simply been putting teams into matches for no good reason on a by-weekly basis. Where is the drama, and shock value? Where are the feuds? Compare the Team 3D/Machine Gun feud in TNA? WWE needs something like that, weekly air time with a plot! We have enough teams and I truly think that if they were given the chance to put themselves on the map, they would get the ratings.

One other thing, someone had mentioned putting killings with burke, not a bad idea whether it would happen or not. Another one could possibly be putting Chris Harris with Chuck Palumbo? I'd watch it.