Rybaxel Officially Takes Up Residence in the House of Shit

[Mustang Sally]

In another current thread, someone is waiting for Ryback's return to the top of the card, but tonight's handicap loss (with Curtis Axel) should put those hopes to rest.

Sure, there have been performers who were given losing streaks after periods of great success, but those were rest areas, not career killers. Can you think of anyone who rose to greater glory after teaming with a partner and losing to a single wrestler? Wonder how a performer with dreams of his own feels when learning he's being assigned the shit end of a handicap contest.

Yes, this match was about the rise of Roman Reigns, but the opponents in a handicap match are traditionally from Loser City; jobbers of the lowest order. What, with 3MB gone, they have to find other losers, so they pick Ryback and Axel?

And what of Mr. not-so-Perfect? Is this all we can expect from him in the future? Yes, it was plain quite some time ago that he wasn't going to be defeating John Cena and Triple H again anytime soon, but this match says it all as far as what he will be doing, no?

Still, we were never given any official indication that these guys had bitten the dust in terms of making a positive impact in the future.

Now, we have.

 

[Soulblazed]

In another current thread, someone is waiting for Ryback's return to the top of the card, but tonight's handicap loss (with Curtis Axel) should put those hopes to rest.

Sure, there have been performers who were given losing streaks after periods of great success, but those were rest areas, not career killers. Can you think of anyone who rose to greater glory after teaming with a partner and losing to a single wrestler? Wonder how a performer with dreams of his own feels when learning he's being assigned the shit end of a handicap contest.

Yes, this match was about the rise of Roman Reigns, but the opponents in a handicap match are traditionally from Loser City; jobbers of the lowest order. What, with 3MB gone, they have to find other losers, so they pick Ryback and Axel?

And what of Mr. not-so-Perfect? Is this all we can expect from him in the future? Yes, it was plain quite some time ago that he wasn't going to be defeating John Cena and Triple H again anytime soon, but this match says it all as far as what he will be doing, no?

Still, we were never given any official indication that these guys had bitten the dust in terms of making a positive impact in the future.

Now, we have.

Ya know, I want to be surprised after reading this, but sadly I'm not..Even though in my opinion, Rybaxel has much more potential than being used as a jobber tag team, you're right that Rybaxel are now subbing for the hometown jobbers when it comes to having a rising star such as Reigns go through 2 wrestlers in a handicap match..Matter of fact, I remember Khali, a giant who routinely gets jobbed out to anyone and everyone even beating Rybaxel in a handicap match a couple months back..

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Rybaxel end up in Jarrett's GFW or NJPW after being let go by WWE

 

[CM Steel]

The House of Shit, lol! But it is a trip to see how far both Ryback & Curtis Axel have fallen. Ryback was pushed to the moon and back while Curtis Axel had a cup of coffee with the IC title with Paul Heyman at his side his his then-manager. Rybaxel aka the former "Paul Heyman Guys" are one of those tag teams that were thrown together because they had nothing to do as single stars. They won't will the WWE tag team titles (I'd suprise me if they do). This team won't even be remembered.

 

[d_henderson1810]

In another current thread, someone is waiting for Ryback's return to the top of the card, but tonight's handicap loss (with Curtis Axel) should put those hopes to rest.

Sure, there have been performers who were given losing streaks after periods of great success, but those were rest areas, not career killers. Can you think of anyone who rose to greater glory after teaming with a partner and losing to a single wrestler? Wonder how a performer with dreams of his own feels when learning he's being assigned the shit end of a handicap contest.

Yes, this match was about the rise of Roman Reigns, but the opponents in a handicap match are traditionally from Loser City; jobbers of the lowest order. What, with 3MB gone, they have to find other losers, so they pick Ryback and Axel?

And what of Mr. not-so-Perfect? Is this all we can expect from him in the future? Yes, it was plain quite some time ago that he wasn't going to be defeating John Cena and Triple H again anytime soon, but this match says it all as far as what he will be doing, no?

Still, we were never given any official indication that these guys had bitten the dust in terms of making a positive impact in the future.

Now, we have.

Why is it that wrestling fans use such extremes, such as either a wrestler is pushed to the moon or buried, but nothing in between?

It seems that every win or loss is considered a gauge of where WWE ranks them. Who says?

Why do fans need for someone to have a Goldberg winning record to get behind them? Ryback & Curtis Axel aren't shit because they lose all the time. Not everyone is a main-eventer. Some are, but some are great as midcarders.

Ted DiBiase jr, Jake Roberts, Roddy Piper, Ricky Steamboat and Mr Perfect never won a WWE or World Title, yet all are HoFers and Legends. Not being pushed to the moon didn't hurt their legacy, and they often lost.

Ryback and Curtis Axel aren't worth swat only if you CHOOSE them not to be. I thought the IWC didn't let Vince dictate who to boo or cheer, so why do you let him decide for you who is worthy of your interest or not.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

Hard to believe Ryback is the same guy, who squared off against Cena in the final two during the Royal Rumble, and the same guy, who challenged CM Punk for the WWE Championship.

Although, with hindsight, Ryback winning the title from Punk would've hurt him a lot more. You can make the "he's not ready yet" argument, and on top of that, think about the champion: CM Punk. Can you imagine the backlash if a muscular power guy beat CM Punk for the WWE Championship?

The "feed me more!" chants would turn into boos, and it's only a matter of time before fans and wrestling fans, who frequent the internet turn on him, because a "generic WWE muscle head" beat CM Punk, the fan favorite (smarks were still cheering him) and the People's Champion. Remember, Ryback was caught in the middle of Punk's lengthy year long + reign. Just think about Sheamus, Daniel Bryan, and Wrestlemania 28 for a similar scenario. I sincerely believe Sheamus never recovered from that win.

But IF the reports of Ryback being a dick to the fans and meet and greets and other WWE fan interaction events are true, then Ryback played a part in digging his own grave.

Curtis Axel is a lost cause at this point. No one ever bought into him as the next big thing or a Heyman Guy, and his IC title run was a major flop. Sure, you could say the timing for his pushes hurt Axel. WWE introduced Axel as the next breakout star, but he was an afterthought in the Vince VS Triple H fiasco, and in the grand scheme of things, his "victory" over Triple H was meaningless, because Stephanie was quick to remind everyone Brock Lesnar was the reason for Triple H's severe injuries after the cage match at Extreme Rules. And Axel was just a sacrificial lamb (you can say the same thing about Ryback) in the Punk/Heyman feud.

As a team, Rybaxel had some promise, but that ship sailed a while ago. Together, Ryback and Axel are just another team now. As far as a singles run goes, Axel is a mid card guy at best, and he might have another run with the IC title, he might have a run as US Champion, but that's it.

Ryback is done. If WWE splits Rybaxel, I imagine he'll float around the card and WWE will use him as a jobber. But we're not going to see the same type of fanfare from 2012-2013. Forget about it. Lighting doesn't strike twice in the same place.

 

[HeyYo]

OK, I'll say it...... They've sucked since day 1!
Ryback has been a Goldberg knockoff and Axel has the charisma of Ivory Soap. What they SHOULD do is go to Jarrett's promotion whenever it opens and wrestle under maks. Do something to make people not look at those faces and remember just how they've sucked..... and Ryback's ugly, too! LOL

 

[Pedigree1]

First and foremost I will do the harder of the two.. Curtis Axel,is someone who never was really given a chance.. Sure his win against Trips one could argue he already was damaged due to Brock beating the holy hell out of him at ER 2013. His cup of coffee run with the IC title really did him no favors and his alignment with Paul Heyman did no favors.

If Paul cant get you over,then your pretty much doomed.. No one ever bought into the 2nd coming of Mr Perfect,because Curtis was far from it.. Rybaxel is done at this point..

How in the hell can they recover answer is they cant. Curtis might float around the mid-card scene for a bit but thats it..

Ryback is pretty much toast at this point,and its kinda his fault.. IF reports are true about him being an ass to fans and such,being warned numerous times to work safer and essentially ignoring what he was told,then what do you expect.. Muscle heads are a dime a dozen

 

[multiverseman.com]

They started off pushing Axel all wrong. First off, the name is terrible. Reversing the words would've even been better: Axel Curtis. Has a better ring to it.

Secondly, I didn't know what I was supposed to think of him. Was he supposed to be tough? He beat HHH via countout. Was he supposed to be a coward? He wasn't that dastardly at all.

 

[Im4Ryback]

Hey some of you know nothing about Ryback. He is the nicest wrestler I know and he has certainly been ruined by wwe (stated in the first post) he deserves another Babyface push and I'm hoping that they will break up Rybaxel if they go through with this fatal four way tag team match for the preshow. Ryback deserves at least one title he should have already held the wwe championship. He deserves a title shot because he is going to have a much more successful career than curtis axel. He is capable of being a real top guy but I don't think they are in the shitter because who else were going to fill that handicap match. In saying that Rybaxel don't deserve to be the ones who do because it makes them look bad. Axel will be in mid card and Ryback should be in the top half of the roster but is wasting away in the tag division mid card I expect big things at summerslam otherwise wwe are going to make Rybaxel the most predictable tag team in wwe history (always losing) I hate it and there must be a change at summerslam. Bring back the FEED ME MORE CHANTS he was really over why turn him??

 

[Aquaman6686]

Ryback as a top-level babyface never made sense. He got over because of a catchphrase and his fad wore off quickly. Ryback as a midcard heel makes sense. This is where he belongs on the card.

Curtis Axel on the other hand, is a tremendously gifted athlete who gets a lot of unnecessary hate because he's not as good as his father. Ummm...how could anyone expect him to be? His father is probably one of the top 5 best all-time in-ring workers. Expecting him to be as good as his dad is ridiculous. Axel is one of the better workers on the roster and deserves better than to be carrying Ryback.

 

[Navi]

Hey some of you know nothing about Ryback. He is the nicest wrestler I know and he has certainly been ruined by wwe (stated in the first post) he deserves another Babyface push and I'm hoping that they will break up Rybaxel if they go through with this fatal four way tag team match for the preshow. Ryback deserves at least one title he should have already held the wwe championship. He deserves a title shot because he is going to have a much more successful career than curtis axel. He is capable of being a real top guy but I don't think they are in the shitter because who else were going to fill that handicap match. In saying that Rybaxel don't deserve to be the ones who do because it makes them look bad. Axel will be in mid card and Ryback should be in the top half of the roster but is wasting away in the tag division mid card I expect big things at summerslam otherwise wwe are going to make Rybaxel the most predictable tag team in wwe history (always losing) I hate it and there must be a change at summerslam. Bring back the FEED ME MORE CHANTS he was really over why turn him??

He might be a nice guy to people he knows, but in fact Ryback is a dick to fans and media. A friend of mine works for Sky Sports in the UK, and he did an interview with him, Ryback was an absolute asshole through the whole thing and gave one word answers to questions. They ended up not even using it. Another friend of mine met him at a meet and greet and said he wouldn't sign autographs, pose for pictures or even talk to the fans. All the other wrestlers who were there did, and everyone who attended came away with a bad taste in their mouth with Ryback. Apparently he just sat there and talked to one of the security guards the whole time and wouldn't even look at anyone else.

I have never met him, but from all accounts, wouldn't want too. And don't give a shit about him and what happens to him in the future.

 

[blueskyy]

I hate if when matches were booked this way. First of all, they disqualify themselves to give Roman Reigns a beat down, but instead got the beat down from Roman Reigns.

I probably watch a wrestling match differently from many of you. A lot of things that concern you guys don't really concern me. If it was up to me, given Ryback's all around improvements, I would start to consider giving Ryback a push instead of booking a meaningless match.

WWE should realize this long ago, having a champion is meaningless without good opponents; being first in class has a much lesser value if you're from a lousy class of a lousy school. And if there's no possibility of rising to a better class or better school the next term/semester/school year etc, there would be no motivation all around.

 

[Reflection]

What I dislike about the tag team division in the WWE lately is that at any point of time, only two teams are relevant- the champions and the #1 contenders, and the remaining teams are irrelevant. Right now, the focus is on the The Usos and Wyatts, while teams like Rybaxel, Goldust and Stardust, and Slater and Titus are doing nothing.

Rybaxel should be happy they are at least getting air time and opportunity to show their skills... even though this theory has been proved somewhat incorrect by what happened to 3MB at the end. Still, Rybaxel is outmatched by at least three tag teams now, and in a show that is primarily focussed on the main event feuds, that's not a good thing at all.

 

[Aquaman6686]

Hey some of you know nothing about Ryback. He is the nicest wrestler I know and he has certainly been ruined by wwe (stated in the first post) he deserves another Babyface push and I'm hoping that they will break up Rybaxel if they go through with this fatal four way tag team match for the preshow. Ryback deserves at least one title he should have already held the wwe championship. He deserves a title shot because he is going to have a much more successful career than curtis axel. He is capable of being a real top guy but I don't think they are in the shitter because who else were going to fill that handicap match. In saying that Rybaxel don't deserve to be the ones who do because it makes them look bad. Axel will be in mid card and Ryback should be in the top half of the roster but is wasting away in the tag division mid card I expect big things at summerslam otherwise wwe are going to make Rybaxel the most predictable tag team in wwe history (always losing) I hate it and there must be a change at summerslam. Bring back the FEED ME MORE CHANTS he was really over why turn him??

WWE turned him because his shelf-life as a face was already coming to an end. He was pushed WAY too hard WAY too fast and he couldn't handle it. He developed a huge ego and actually thought he was as big a star as his catchphrase was. Working with Curtis Axel is the best thing that ever happened to him because he's learned so much in this time. What little Ryback has learned of in-ring ability and timing, he got from Axel. Curtis Axel saved Ryback's career. After the team splits up, Axel is going on to bigger and better things, and Ryback will remain in the midcard where he belongs.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

In another current thread, someone is waiting for Ryback's return to the top of the card, but tonight's handicap loss (with Curtis Axel) should put those hopes to rest.

Sure, there have been performers who were given losing streaks after periods of great success, but those were rest areas, not career killers. Can you think of anyone who rose to greater glory after teaming with a partner and losing to a single wrestler? Wonder how a performer with dreams of his own feels when learning he's being assigned the shit end of a handicap contest.

Yes, this match was about the rise of Roman Reigns, but the opponents in a handicap match are traditionally from Loser City; jobbers of the lowest order. What, with 3MB gone, they have to find other losers, so they pick Ryback and Axel?

And what of Mr. not-so-Perfect? Is this all we can expect from him in the future? Yes, it was plain quite some time ago that he wasn't going to be defeating John Cena and Triple H again anytime soon, but this match says it all as far as what he will be doing, no?

Still, we were never given any official indication that these guys had bitten the dust in terms of making a positive impact in the future.

Now, we have.

Jack Swagger was jobbing to Hornswoggle 3 months before becoming WHC. I think I'd much rather be in Rybaxel's shoes. Was it only 1 guy? Sure. But then say that one guy was Roman Reigns and people would say, "yeah, that's not nearly as bad."

Rybaxel still has a chance because the tag division is terrible right now. Ryback, as long as he's begun to play nice with fans, still has the chance at a bright future. Axel, well, he has the charisma of a doorknob.

EDIT: Had to come back to this post and apologize to all doorknobs. They aren't that terrible.

 

[MartialHorror]

To be fair, not long ago Orton and Kane lost against Roman Reigns. At least Rybaxel only were overpowered because they got cocky, although yeah, it's not going to be easy coming back from something like this.

I don't like the idea of full time jobbers. Predictable matches are usually boring matches...and Rybaxel has only been used to put people over. Even when they win, it's usually so that their opponents will have a more satisfying victory in the rematch.

 

[Mustang Sally]

Why is it that wrestling fans use such extremes, such as either a wrestler is pushed to the moon or buried, but nothing in between?

Your point is well taken....and there are places in between.....but this topic is meant to illustrate what happens when a performer(s) hits the absolute bottom after having been at the absolute top.

When Curtis Axel is defeating John Cena and Triple H, I think it's safe to say a monster push was planned for him.....but it died quickly enough, didn't it? I still wonder why WWE expected us to get excited about Axel in the first place; a guy for whom Creative could find nothing for such a long time.

The Ryback problem is even more evident, based on what he was doing so early in his career. Face it, at the beginning, even before he was fighting for world titles, he was the one wiping up the ring with two tomato cans; lifting both of 'em on his shoulders and goose-stepping around the ring. Last night, he was the guy losing to a single wrestler whom Ryback couldn't defeat, even with help.

Yes, not everyone has to be pushed to the moon or buried. There is a place in the middle......but Rybaxel is surely south of the middle......wayyyyy south.

 

[No Count Pup]

To be fair, not long ago Orton and Kane lost against Roman Reigns.

This side of the coin needs more attention. Nobody was saying Randy Orton's career was doomed in his loss. Therefore, Ryback and Axel suffered nothing with theirs.

CM Punk defeated the entire Shield at Tables, Ladders, and Chairs. Does that mean Reigns, Rollins, and Ambrose are jobbers? No!

Rybaxel lost by disqualification. They weren't even pinned! If anything, WWE protected Ryback on Monday.

There's a difference between a wrestler getting pinned and getting beaten up. Ryback wasn't pinned in the handicap match. He was only beaten up. It happens to heels all the time.

 

[MartialHorror]

This side of the coin needs more attention. Nobody was saying Randy Orton's career was doomed in his loss. Therefore, Ryback and Axel suffered nothing with theirs.

CM Punk defeated the entire Shield at Tables, Ladders, and Chairs. Does that mean Reigns, Rollins, and Ambrose are jobbers? No!

Rybaxel lost by disqualification. They weren't even pinned! If anything, WWE protected Ryback on Monday.

There's a difference between a wrestler getting pinned and getting beaten up. Ryback wasn't pinned in the handicap match. He was only beaten up. It happens to heels all the time.

It should also be noted though that when CM Punk defeated the Shield, it was at a time where the Shield was beginning to look weak. They seemed to lose more than they were winning and Ambrose especially was looking like a joke. Reigns started being booked as strong again during the Royal Rumble, but all three of them didn't start to be treated as dangerous until their feud with the Wyatt family.

However, it does go to show that it is possible to recover from it. I think Rybaxel make a legit comeback, since as I said, they wouldn't have been beaten up if they didn't start to get cocky and it could be argued they were ordered to hurt Reigns instead of winning (hence the DQ).

 

[Creepy Old Man]

Let's remember that Ryback was never over. He dropped Albert twice on TV, as well as Paul Heyman at a live event (the video of which was widely circulated), rendering him an embarrassment and killing his "power guy" persona. The reactions to his entrances for his pay-per-view main events at Hell in a Cell and Survivor Series 2012 were ice cold. A three-word chant (which I suspect was largely piped-in) doesn't mean a performer is over.

 

[Tastycles]

In another current thread, someone is waiting for Ryback's return to the top of the card, but tonight's handicap loss (with Curtis Axel) should put those hopes to rest.

Sure, there have been performers who were given losing streaks after periods of great success, but those were rest areas, not career killers. Can you think of anyone who rose to greater glory after teaming with a partner and losing to a single wrestler? Wonder how a performer with dreams of his own feels when learning he's being assigned the shit end of a handicap contest.

Edge and Christian did alright...

But I'm being facetious, absolutely the WWE has given up on Curtis Axel, and it's no surprise why as he has absolutely nothing going for him. Ryback is pretty much going down that road, but I don't think he's looked as weak, and I think they try and make him look a bit better. When they eventually split, they could feasibly rescue him by having him destroy Axel, but as it stands, we'll see Ryback in comedy segments and Axel in the dole queue before long.