RVD and Sabu busted for Drugs!

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JohnnyRodz said:
"What was implied was that people bash them for using pain pills in the first place yet forget the reason why they're in so much pain."

Nobody is forgeting why they're in pain. It still isn't an excuse.

100% correct. It's not like they can't afford a massager or take a nice warm bath.
 
So if someone is prescribed something with the intention of having them use it there's no excuse for using it? Real rational. It sure is easy to say that when we're sitting on our asses at home watching these people put themselves through pain instead of being the ones in it. I don't supposed that either of you guys ever have been sick in your life and been on medication, even an antibiotic. I don't suppose you've ever taken tylenol, asprin, etc. I hope not cause there's no excuse for it. Being sick and being in pain from doing something athletic may be two different things but there is also an important similiarty that's being disregarded being that if medicine is legal and especially prescribed, it's intended to be used when necessary (as long as it's not abused). I don't know what's so hard to grasp about that.

gamehead said:
100% correct. It's not like they can't afford a massager or take a nice warm bath.

There is not only one set standard for how someone can deal with chronic pain and there is no law or standard that states that if you can afford something it's the only correct way of doing it. If there is then identify it.
 
gamehead said:
YO,THEY MIGHT BE RELEASED SAYS WRESTLEZONE:

In light of the recent arrests of Robert "RVD" Szatkowski and Terry "Sabu" Brunk, it will be interesting to see how WWE handles the matter now that is has been made public. WWE's Substance Abuse and Drug Testing Policy clearly states that any Talent arrested for possession of drugs is subject to immediate dismissal.

13. DISCIPLINE FOR VIOLATION OF LAW

Any Talent who is arrested, convicted or who admits to a violation of law relating to use, possession, purchase, sale or distribution of prohibited drugs will be in material breach of contract and subject to immediate dismissal.

Considering that Szatkowski and Brunk are the two biggest stars on the ECW brand, it should be intriguing to see if these individuals are punished or if WWE will contradict their own drug policy by not terminating their contracts.
I don't know what they're gonna do, but being subject to termination is different than a no tolerance rule.
 
Dysturbed said:
So if someone is prescribed something with the intention of having them use it there's no excuse for using it? Real rational. It sure is easy to say that when we're sitting on our asses at home watching these people put themselves through pain instead of being the ones in it.

That's if it was prescribed to them? We don't even know if he had a prescription for it yet.

I'm not dogging them for using the stuff. All I'm saying is I don't like how people are basically justifying it with the "oh,it's not that big a deal" attitude. Especially with how easy it is for someone to get addicted to these things.

It'll be interesting to see how this gets handled.
 
Who are we to judge? What these guys do in their PERSONAL lives should be none of our business, and we shouldn't judge them.Afterall, no ones perfect, most of us have tried stuff like this at some point in our lives. Everyone makes mistakes. Also, as a side note, it stated that the drugs Sabu had on him were legal, so I think sabu is being charged only because he was with RVD at the time.
 
JohnnyRodz said:
That's if it was prescribed to them? We don't even know if he had a prescription for it yet.

The provided information lists RVD's the pills as prescription. Is that 100% accurate? We don't know as a lot of things online are exaggerated or fabricated. However since it's been listed as such there's no reason to think that it may not have the possibility of being factual.

JohnnyRodz said:
I'm not dogging them for using the stuff. All I'm saying is I don't like how people are basically justifying it with the "oh,it's not that big a deal" attitude. Especially with how easy it is for someone to get addicted to these things.


That's an entirely different statement then saying that there's no excuse. Now you're saying that it's something that's a cause of concern. Before that you basically said that it was just flat out wrong. If you're going to admit that there's a possibility that it's not prescription and therefore we shouldn't judge, why did you make such a harsh judgment before of it being wrong?


schiops said:
Who are we to judge? What these guys do in their PERSONAL lives should be none of our business, and we shouldn't judge them.

What happens in their personal lives is none of our business unless it effects something that is in fact our business which is a television program that airs in order to entertain US. If something like this is going to possibly jeapardize a lot of things, then it is in fact our business to an extent. In other words, the reason why they use the pills isn't our business but if the fact that they used them gets them fired and effects the shows that we're meant to see, that part is.
 
didnt WWE's drug policy NOT include Dope though?? it was only Steroids and pills?? well thats what i remember
 
Dysturbed said:
Where was it stated that they shouldn't have been arrested. What was implied was that people bash them for using pain pills in the first place yet forget the reason why they're in so much pain.
I didn't. I said I fully understood why they take them, but what are we supposed to do?

1. Take the approach that we're greatful..We worship you..Pop pills for the rest of your life, I dont care. It's the steroids in baseball attitude. Well, we all come to see home runs, and home runs are at an all-time high, so what's the problem?

2. Or recognize it's a serious problem, that the WWE seems to be trying to clean up by the way, and try to get these guys some help. Is it still a secret that WAY TOO MANY wrestlers are dying in their 40's and 50's? How is that right, or ok?

We all understand why they do it, but these guys need to wise up. They are killing themselves.


Here are a few names of wrestlers who've died for a multitude of reasons, but I guarantee you, none because of old age:

Chris Von Erich - 21
Mike Von Erich - 23
The Renegade - 23
Louie Spiccoli - 27
Gino Hernandez - 29
Jay Youngblood - 30
Crash Holly - 32
Kerry Von Erich - 33
Eddie Gilbert - 33
Chris Candido - 33
Adrian Adonis - 34
Bobby Duncum Jr. - 34
Yokozuna - 34
Big Dick Dudley - 34
Brian Pillman - 35
Pitbull #2 - 36
Mark Curtis - 38
Eddie Guerrero - 38
Davey Boy Smith - 39
Johnny Grunge - 39
Vivian Vachon - 40
Terry Gordy - 40
Bertha Faye - 40
Rick Rude - 41
Randy Anderson - 41
Bruiser Brody - 42
Miss Elizabeth - 42
Big Boss Man - 42
Earthquake - 42
Dino Bravo - 44
Curt Hennig - 44
Junkyard Dog - 45
Hercules - 45
Andre The Giant - 46
Big John Studd - 46
Chris Adams - 46
Mike Davis - 46
Hawk - 46
Dick Murdoch - 49
Jumbo Tsuruta - 49
Rocco Rock - 49
Uncle Elmer - 54
Pez Whatley - 54
Haystacks Calhoun- 55
Dr. Jerry Graham - 58
Tony Parisi - 58
Ray Stevens - 60
Stan Stasiak - 60
Terry Garvin - 60
Boris Malenko - 61
Little Beaver - 61
Sapphire - 61
Dick the Bruiser - 62
Wilbur Snyder - 62
Gorilla Monsoon - 62
Wahoo McDaniel - 63
 
Well if this doesnt sum up ECW.
Looks great on the WWE's part doesn't it, their WWE Champion is a smackhead.
lolol I bet they wish they'd kept the title on Cena, rather then give it to a druggy.
 
Cena is a damb druggy too... shyt rememer he smoked more weed than any of these other fucks long befor he even came to WWE.
 
hothead25 said:
I didn't. I said I fully understood why they take them, but what are we supposed to do?

1. Take the approach that we're greatful..We worship you..Pop pills for the rest of your life, I dont care. It's the steroids in baseball attitude. Well, we all come to see home runs, and home runs are at an all-time high, so what's the problem?

2. Or recognize it's a serious problem, that the WWE seems to be trying to clean up by the way, and try to get these guys some help. Is it still a secret that WAY TOO MANY wrestlers are dying in their 40's and 50's? How is that right, or ok?

We all understand why they do it, but these guys need to wise up. They are killing themselves.


Here are a few names of wrestlers who've died for a multitude of reasons, but I guarantee you, none because of old age:

Chris Von Erich - 21
Mike Von Erich - 23
The Renegade - 23
Louie Spiccoli - 27
Gino Hernandez - 29
Jay Youngblood - 30
Crash Holly - 32
Kerry Von Erich - 33
Eddie Gilbert - 33
Chris Candido - 33
Adrian Adonis - 34
Bobby Duncum Jr. - 34
Yokozuna - 34
Big Dick Dudley - 34
Brian Pillman - 35
Pitbull #2 - 36
Mark Curtis - 38
Eddie Guerrero - 38
Davey Boy Smith - 39
Johnny Grunge - 39
Vivian Vachon - 40
Terry Gordy - 40
Bertha Faye - 40
Rick Rude - 41
Randy Anderson - 41
Bruiser Brody - 42
Miss Elizabeth - 42
Big Boss Man - 42
Earthquake - 42
Dino Bravo - 44
Curt Hennig - 44
Junkyard Dog - 45
Hercules - 45
Andre The Giant - 46
Big John Studd - 46
Chris Adams - 46
Mike Davis - 46
Hawk - 46
Dick Murdoch - 49
Jumbo Tsuruta - 49
Rocco Rock - 49
Uncle Elmer - 54
Pez Whatley - 54
Haystacks Calhoun- 55
Dr. Jerry Graham - 58
Tony Parisi - 58
Ray Stevens - 60
Stan Stasiak - 60
Terry Garvin - 60
Boris Malenko - 61
Little Beaver - 61
Sapphire - 61
Dick the Bruiser - 62
Wilbur Snyder - 62
Gorilla Monsoon - 62
Wahoo McDaniel - 63

Wow, just when I was think of being a wrestler. If I do become one I WILL be careful
 
I found this quite hilarious. He got busted for drugs before. He shoulda learned better. O well, in the WWE wellness program, there is a rule where any wrestler arrested for drug charges is up for a releasing. I know they won't get rid of RVD yet, but Sabu will more than likely go. :(
 
where are these mugshot pics and stuff from when they got busted. Is that just a hits getter (to boost the sites rating) or are there really pics?
 
I doubt it's all even real. I could see wwe doing this to boost ratings. I can't wait to hear JR and King bad mouth RVD and Sabu tonight.
 
I don't give a damn about wrestlers private lives. As long as they can put on a decent show for me each week I am happy.

Only stupid people need role models. Noboddy smart is going to smoke weed or take dodgy pills becaue RVD did. Fire Sabu and RVD and you make Raw and ECW worse, so you don't do it.

I'm worried for Sabu more than RVD. RVD is the champ and a big draw, but I fear we'll be seeing Sabu on TNA / Velocity very soon.
 
scarfo said:
I'm worried for Sabu more than RVD. RVD is the champ and a big draw, but I fear we'll be seeing Sabu on TNA / Velocity very soon.

One Velocity got canceled and two whats wrong with TNA its very good. He was actully successful in TNA
 
SABU = GONE from WWE.
RVD = Drop the title in a few days, then job on HEAT.
 
gamehead said:
One Velocity got canceled and two whats wrong with TNA its very good. He was actully successful in TNA
One, that shows just about how much I cared about velocity and two, TNA may be good and successful (and I agree with you there) but it's not the big leagues, is it?
 
I'm not sure how reliable this site is, but according to http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4557&wtm_view=penalties

Possession of less than 100 grams of marijuana is a citable offense
only, with a fine of $100. Possession of 100 grams or more is
punishable by a fine of up to $250. For possession of 200 grams or
more, the penalty increases to a possible sentence of 6 months - one
year in jail. Possession of 1,000 grams or more is punishable by 1 - 5
years in prison. Any possession of less than 5,000 grams does not
carry the presumption of prison, which leaves available the
possibility of probation. Possession of 5,000 grams of marijuana or
more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. For any amount or 20,000
grams or more the penalty increases to a mandatory minimum sentence of
eight years in prison.

...

Possession of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 30 days in jail and
sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 90 days in jail. For all
drug convictions, including minor misdemeanors, the offender's
driver's license is also suspended for a period of 6 months - 5 years.
Professional licenses are also suspended.


Personally those sound like slaps on the wrist but I'm interested to see what the E going to do because of the "Wellness Program". Exactly what standard are trying set or establish to prove they are serious about it. I am really interested to see is what going to come of this.
 
This sux, and it doesn't look good for ECW's future. These are the ONLY real ECW guys that Vince was pushing. Now this, well I wonder who else from the real ECW roster will be pushed
 
mugford1 said:
I found RVD looks stoned all the time

Are you kidding? Do you actually think that RVD would be high on pot while he was in the ring? Besides, he doesn't look "stoned" all the time. That's just your imagination running wild so you can act like you know something more than the rest of us.

Anyways, it's not a big deal that RVD and Sabu were found with pot in their car. Who gives a damn about prescription pills. I doubt they were smoking it WHILE in the car. That would be plain ******ed. Anybody who WAS an RVD or Sabu fan until this happened, means you obviously weren't a real fan before. This is a habit of them. They'll just get sent to rehab anyways. You can't drop your two biggest stars on the ECW Roster just because the cops found a few doobies in the backseat. This isn't a big deal.
 
thecruiser said:
Are you kidding? Do you actually think that RVD would be high on pot while he was in the ring? Besides, he doesn't look "stoned" all the time. That's just your imagination running wild so you can act like you know something more than the rest of us.

Anyways, it's not a big deal that RVD and Sabu were found with pot in their car. Who gives a damn about prescription pills. I doubt they were smoking it WHILE in the car. That would be plain ******ed. Anybody who WAS an RVD or Sabu fan until this happened, means you obviously weren't a real fan before. This is a habit of them. They'll just get sent to rehab anyways. You can't drop your two biggest stars on the ECW Roster just because the cops found a few doobies in the backseat. This isn't a big deal.

I think he was kidding
 
alot of the wrestlers on that list were fucking huge dudes. in shape or not a persons organs can only take so much. theyre not meant to handle a 3-500 pound wrestler that lifts all the time and exerts the hell out of himself.
 
I don't really know what the big deal is, I don't kbnow that many people that can say they don't smoke up once in a while... then again I'm from canada where it is decriminilized.
 
Well I'm not sure what's going to happen to them. Although I get the impression they both have some time to serve with the WWE wellness program and a few monthes of jobbing ahead of them. I'm not sure who they will put the wwe belt on.
 
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