Rumor: Samoa Joe to WWE?

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The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that those close to the situation note that Samoa Joe has been talking seriously about looking at joining WWE when his contract expires in several months.

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Lol at Joe.

1. He will be asked to lose weight.

He never does.

2. He will be asked to actually put effort into matches.

He hardly does anymore.

3. He will be asked to be less sloppy in the ring.

He won't listen.

I don't believe this at all because it's trying to make people believe he's being buried when it's all an angle. This smells like Team 3D to WWE or Angelina Love rumors to WWE that never would die and turned out to be another dirtsheet fail.

If he does go to WWE, I wouldn't be upset or care. Because, he's not the guy we all loved and TNA needs to cut some fat (no pun intended). It's clear, TNA is looking at guys to add and build going forward. He's not obviously one of them.
 
For all that's wrong with Joe, and there's plenty wrong with him, losing him to WWE would hurt TNA quite a bit as Joe's history with the company is just too valuable to lose to the competition like that.

Granted, he's no AJ Styles or Beer Money or anything of the sort, but he's still a performer who you don't want working for the 'enemy'.

That said, this could also be a giant work if you give credence at all to the last promo he cut about knowing what the "powers that be" and the people that "run TNA" are "trying to do to him", alluding to the idea they are trying to run him out of town.

Not sure what to make of it, honestly.
 
I wouldn't mind it if Joe goes to WWE because hell if he's gonna be used properly in TNA between now and the end of his current contract. I wouldn't care but I wouldn't have a problem with it. I guess I could see him being booked in a manner similarly to Umaga. I wouldn't put too much on this dirtsheet though. After all, it is just a dirtsheet and I always take them with a grain of salt. I find his odds of working the indys or going back to ROH to be better than becoming WWE Champion. But hell, maybe I'll be surprised.
 
I think he is looking at this situation like what more can he do in TNA?? he turns heel then face then back to heel, it is like they don't really know what to do with him. He has feud with just about everybody and why else would he stay in the company for much longer, I can understand if he is thinking about that. They will tell him to lose some weight because he going to be able to try and handle being on the road 24/7 and handle the full time schedule

I don't mind seeing him in the WWE, it's just a question of how he is going to be used in WWE.
 
I think Joe will be a better fit than AJ Styles. Joe has the size, speed, and look for wwe. AJ would get the push he would be looking for. He'd be another "christian"
 
I think Joe will be a better fit than AJ Styles. Joe has the size, speed, and look for wwe. AJ would get the push he would be looking for. He'd be another "christian"

Not sure what you mean by this. Joe is NOWHERE NEAR what WWE wants!

Look at WWE's complete roster and what they have in FCW...where does Joe fit in? The body structure and look of Joe is not what WWE wants. He will get lost in the mid-card...he's NOT a main event player, and even if he were to be at that level he would get buried.
 
1. He will be asked to lose weight.

He never does.

first wwe would'nt really ask him that because his wait is part of his persona(to me) it seems like it fits his style, short, butt still big.

2. He will be asked to actually put effort into matches.

He hardly does anymore.

just like rob van dam, they seem bored of TNA, espessially samoa joe, because hes been doing the same shit in the same place for years, i bet once he steps in a wwe ring, all those chants ar going to get to him.

3. He will be asked to be less sloppy in the ring.

He won't listen.

same thing with too, hes bored of TNA he dosent try that hard anymore.

but i remember reports about him going to wwe 3 years ago, so its unlikley
 
Uhhh how do we know when Joe's contract is up? There was no official report on it, just some rumors that it was a 2-3 year deal. It happened last December I believe.

As far as Joe going to the WWE - if TNA doesn't want to use him any better then he should go there IF he'll be used in a proper way. Otherwise he's going from a company that doesn't care to another company that doesn't care but pays well, and if he's okay with being a wrestling hooker then all power to him.

Either way I was never a fan of Joe, doubt I ever will be so whereever he goes I just hope he's being paid well and is happy with his position on the roster.
 
I find it very hard to believe that they would book Joe to do that promo if he would have the option to leave in a couple of months. They have something in the works for him and it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't somehow a part of it.

I do think it would be hilarious if they did a Punk-like storyline with him except someone squashed him on the PPV and he actually did leave.
 
Joe needs to back to ROH, he doesn't fit the mold in the WWE or TNA (now). You have to figure he would have a 90 day non compete clause and if he was smart he would drop some pounds.

He's also a guy who would go further by having a manager so he would be off the mic.
 
Not sure what you mean by this. Joe is NOWHERE NEAR what WWE wants!

Look at WWE's complete roster and what they have in FCW...where does Joe fit in? The body structure and look of Joe is not what WWE wants. He will get lost in the mid-card...he's NOT a main event player, and even if he were to be at that level he would get buried.

Not sure what you mean. But what does Wade Barrett have that Joe doesn't besides mic skills. Every WWE wrestler gets buried besides the top 4-5 so i can't figure out what your point is. He will fit in just fine.
 
I absolutely shake my head when it comes to Samoa Joe and possibly what TNA had on their hands.

Samoa Joe was this dominant force, but instead of squash matches like a Goldberg, he always had great matches. The infamous high five between Tenay and West was about Steiner vs. Joe. Joe was then chosen by Sting to be his partner against Jarrett and Steiner who TNA booking hadn't fucked up yet.

Then when Angle came to TNA he was frsh off his No way Out victory over the Undertaker and Joe gave off that vibe as these two guys went head to head. And Joe got the victory over him and made Angle look second best in the company.

After the Angle feud TNA had their own break out superstar that epople on these boards back in 2006 was saying dream matches, Joe vs. Cena or Joe vs. Undertaker.. and that's what TNA wanted. On the back of Joe's popularity, the company could have flourished, but you know what TNA's booking just fucked it all up.

Joe was TNA's top guy and possibly in the top 5 in the industry and TNA could have made a ,ot of money, but they screwed up, because maangement couldn't get behind him.

And now IWC ********s say, oh he's too fat, oh he doesn't try in the ring etc etc blah blah. How would you feel if the CEO of your company made you Vice Pesident and then a few months later of doing an awesome job and making your company a tonne of money was told that you were now the mail boy... wouldn't be fun would it? No...

Samoa Joe is TNA's mistakes personified when they removed D'more from the booking committee and replaced him with Russo.

On topic, Joe is one of CM Punk's and John Cena's best freinds... does Punk's new standings with the company have anything to do with this rumour? Who knows, is there a place for Joe, when McIntyre, Swagger, Kidd, Khali, etc etc. all have no creative direction right now? I don't know... but I think TNA need Joe, but they can't see it, and if he were to leave there would be a missing peiece to the TNA puzzle for a while.
 
I think it could be very good move IF and big IF the rumors would be true. As long as WWE books him correctly. When I saw this the 1st thing that ran through my mind was Taz. He went from the Human Suplex Machine and a main eventer in ECW to just an after thought in WWE. I just pray the same thing wouldn't happen to Joe
 
I absolutely shake my head when it comes to Samoa Joe and possibly what TNA had on their hands.

Samoa Joe was this dominant force, but instead of squash matches like a Goldberg, he always had great matches. The infamous high five between Tenay and West was about Steiner vs. Joe. Joe was then chosen by Sting to be his partner against Jarrett and Steiner who TNA booking hadn't fucked up yet.

Then when Angle came to TNA he was frsh off his No way Out victory over the Undertaker and Joe gave off that vibe as these two guys went head to head. And Joe got the victory over him and made Angle look second best in the company.

After the Angle feud TNA had their own break out superstar that epople on these boards back in 2006 was saying dream matches, Joe vs. Cena or Joe vs. Undertaker.. and that's what TNA wanted. On the back of Joe's popularity, the company could have flourished, but you know what TNA's booking just fucked it all up.

Joe was TNA's top guy and possibly in the top 5 in the industry and TNA could have made a ,ot of money, but they screwed up, because maangement couldn't get behind him.

And now IWC ********s say, oh he's too fat, oh he doesn't try in the ring etc etc blah blah. How would you feel if the CEO of your company made you Vice Pesident and then a few months later of doing an awesome job and making your company a tonne of money was told that you were now the mail boy... wouldn't be fun would it? No...

Samoa Joe is TNA's mistakes personified when they removed D'more from the booking committee and replaced him with Russo.

On topic, Joe is one of CM Punk's and John Cena's best freinds... does Punk's new standings with the company have anything to do with this rumour? Who knows, is there a place for Joe, when McIntyre, Swagger, Kidd, Khali, etc etc. all have no creative direction right now? I don't know... but I think TNA need Joe, but they can't see it, and if he were to leave there would be a missing peiece to the TNA puzzle for a while.

I agree with a lot of what you said here. Samoa Joe was incredibly over with the crowds at one point in time, so much so that when he faced Sting there were some chants of "Joe is gonna kill you" directed at the Icon. That's how over he was, and TNA really dropped the ball. IF, and this is a BIG IF, Joe were to go to WWE, I think they would have to book him as that unstoppable force that TNA had him as originally to get him over with the crowd.
I do have to correct one thing though, Joe lost his first match with Kurt Angle, it was Joe's first loss in the company. I just watched it on YouTube the other day lol. Angle refused to shake his hand afterward.
 
I think it could be very good move IF and big IF the rumors would be true. As long as WWE books him correctly. When I saw this the 1st thing that ran through my mind was Taz. He went from the Human Suplex Machine and a main eventer in ECW to just an after thought in WWE. I just pray the same thing wouldn't happen to Joe

I remember when Taz went to WWE, I was shocked as hell when he came out to face Kurt Angle. But you're right, they buried him shortly after that, then he had his neck injury and went to commentating. That would definitely be a fear of what could happen to Joe if he went to WWE.
 
HMMM Somoa Joe to WWE.....would he be able to keep his name or would it be as goddamn horrible as mcgulicutty?? (sp) I can see it now Making his way to the ring from the ISLE OF SOMOA the SOMOAIN BLOB....

Any who yes as for Joe to WwE if he goes i hope he as everyone says gets booked right. But i ask myself this what is right for Joe now? Face, Heel, Face, Tweener (ugly word) Face.....not sure what he is OH WAIT HEEL!!!

When i first watched TNA it was because of Somoa Joe an Daniels an then AJ an many more. I hope the E would book him as he was a guy that just kicked ass. I mean this dude isn't tiny an he quick an agaile an he made the x divison look pretty damn good for me thinking he was a heavyweight wrestler.

Then he had his matches with Kurt Freakin Angle (one of my all time favs) an man did those guys have a clinic of a fight. Heres Joe going against Angle for a fight to hold every title in TNA, EVERY TITLE!!!! thats ridicious shit i have never witness!!! An Joe def should of won an im an Angle fan. An then after that it just seem like TNA who had a huge star on there hands gave up on Joe an he got lost between Jarret (i fuckin hate Jarret he makes me wanna change the channle even if he wrestles someone good) an Angle.

Now present day after still wondering who kidnapped Joe he seems to be going on a tweener type roll. Which hopefully mean he will be booked as the JOE'S GONNA KILL YOU guy vs the joe is there now.

So if the E push Joe as the JOE'S GONNA KILL YOU guy then im all for it. Joe is a really good wrestler an I understand why he is lazy as someone on here said about being president one day then the next mail boy. Would suck an joe is in that shoes an it sucks for tna needs that kick ass dude. (Crimson isn't there yet at all) AN if he was to go the the E im all for it cus hes a good wrestler an needs to be happy with the company he works for.
 
like pretty much everybody else has said he wouldnt be a huge loss to impact wrestling the guy had 1 good fued with kurt angle and has done complete nothing sense its pretty clear they dont knw what to do with joe as he turns heel/face atleast once a month and as much as everybody sees joe making a huge comeback to end up winning the bfg series...sorry to burst your bubble but its not gonna happen joe is fatass has been and impact wrestling is finally seeing that...good for them....as far as joe goes...if he wants to leave tna but keep wrestling (sense i have seen nothing not even rumors that wwe wants him) i suggest ROH again or just working the indys im sure someone could use him
 
Uhhh how do we know when Joe's contract is up? There was no official report on it, just some rumors that it was a 2-3 year deal. It happened last December I believe.

As far as Joe going to the WWE - if TNA doesn't want to use him any better then he should go there IF he'll be used in a proper way. Otherwise he's going from a company that doesn't care to another company that doesn't care but pays well, and if he's okay with being a wrestling hooker then all power to him.

Either way I was never a fan of Joe, doubt I ever will be so whereever he goes I just hope he's being paid well and is happy with his position on the roster.

LOL wrestling hooker... THAT line of logic is flawed... You make it sound like him jumping ship to WWE would make him a sell out... Hell if I had the option to wrestle for TNA or WWE knowing neither would ACTUALLY use me, I would pick WWE why? because if I even made it on TV a few times that can help someone in the form of indy bookings later when they get future endeavored they at least got some time on the big stage so they are worth a little more in the indy's also I would rather have that MASSIVE pay check and get to travel around then be stuck in orlando sitting on my ass, collecting absolutely nothing but a headache from not knowing if i'm going to be a face or a heel when i step through the curtain the next night...
 
LOL wrestling hooker... THAT line of logic is flawed... You make it sound like him jumping ship to WWE would make him a sell out... Hell if I had the option to wrestle for TNA or WWE knowing neither would ACTUALLY use me, I would pick WWE why? because if I even made it on TV a few times that can help someone in the form of indy bookings later when they get future endeavored they at least got some time on the big stage so they are worth a little more in the indy's also I would rather have that MASSIVE pay check and get to travel around then be stuck in orlando sitting on my ass, collecting absolutely nothing but a headache from not knowing if i'm going to be a face or a heel when i step through the curtain the next night...

Exactly. A wrestling hooker. They'll pay me a lot while not using me well which I won't enjoy but at least I'll be wrestling in many different places and I'll be more famous. I'll fuck a rich guy, I won't like it but he'll pay me well, plus he'll do me in one of his big mansions and hopefully TMZ will snap a shot with me blowing him so I'll be more famous and make some money out of interviews about it.
 
I agree with a lot of what you said here. Samoa Joe was incredibly over with the crowds at one point in time, so much so that when he faced Sting there were some chants of "Joe is gonna kill you" directed at the Icon. That's how over he was, and TNA really dropped the ball. IF, and this is a BIG IF, Joe were to go to WWE, I think they would have to book him as that unstoppable force that TNA had him as originally to get him over with the crowd.
I do have to correct one thing though, Joe lost his first match with Kurt Angle, it was Joe's first loss in the company. I just watched it on YouTube the other day lol. Angle refused to shake his hand afterward.

Second match in their series of three matches, the third being a 30 min iron man match which Angle won. But when Joe defeated Angle in the 2nd encounter, Angle went ballistic, but Joe stayed calm and booking wise it made Joe look far superior to Angle. I didn't really ant to write all that so omitted a few results. The point was, thanks to Angle, Joe was put over big time, and the sky was the limit with him. But TNA just screwed up by not capitalising on what could have made them and TNA huge at the time.

TNA's to date biggest ever buys has been Joe vs. Angle 1 and 2, they've never come close to those numbers before or since. Was Joe a draw, you bet he was thanks to great booking from D'More. So why did they de-push Joe? It makes absolutely no snese even to this day, and all the ahters can say oh Joe refuses to lose weight or doesn't try, but the simple fact of the matter is that TNA had a gold mine on their hands and now Joe is losing to every man and his bi-sexual (Orlando jordan) dog.
 
I find it very hard to believe that they would book Joe to do that promo if he would have the option to leave in a couple of months. They have something in the works for him and it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't somehow a part of it.

I do think it would be hilarious if they did a Punk-like storyline with him except someone squashed him on the PPV and he actually did leave.

Um this is TNA where they were building an Immortal vs MEM feud without having all the people on board so it wouldnt surprise me one bit.
 
i can see him going for a couple reasons. one person said hes tight with cena and cm punk which means good things. stone cold has some say(to some degree) and he wants joe signed. and if nothing else, they would sign him jus to bury a tna talent at the least. the umaga route is similair to what i see for him or play off that hes related to the rock or snuka.. maybe even a possible somain swat team gig with manu or some shit. the possiblilitys are endless with him being samoan alone.
 
Some people seem to have very short term memories. People love to rag on Samoa Joe all the time, downplaying his wrestling ability, downplaying his mic skills, teasing him about being overweight. Joe's first few years in TNA he was on fire, unmistakably one of the best in the company. He was having the best matches, he was hugely over, the man was part of the biggest match and most profitable PPV in TNA's history. None of that has changed now. Joe's still great in the ring, Joe can cut as good of a promo as 90% of the current roster, and Joe could easily be a top draw for the company.

TNA's dropped the ball time and time again with Joe. Their horrible booking, their erratic storylines, and probably politics backstage too, have squandered what Joe could've been for the company all of these years. People expect Joe to give 100% effort in the current state of TNA.. expect him to go out of his way to keep in shape, etc.. when TNA has done nothing but misused him and put no effort in return? That's asking a lot. Why would he go out of his way for TNA now?

And whose to say, if he's signed by WWE and actually gets the opportunity on the BIG STAGE, he's not going to go out of his way to do everything the WWE wants so he can reach his potential? People seem to forget that the WWE not only had Umaga on their roster, but they pushed him and made him into a credible, dominant force. So I really doubt the WWE would be against doing the same with Joe, whose very similar in look and size as Umaga, and is even better in the ring. And if given that same chance, I really believe Joe would grab the ball and run with it and no weight issuesor any other excuses would hold him back.

I DEFINITELY hope that Joe goes to the WWE. I want to see him there, I think he can be a future star there, and I want to finally see him out of TNA where he's being squandered like so many other young talents.
 
Lol at Joe.

1. He will be asked to lose weight.

He never does.

2. He will be asked to actually put effort into matches.

He hardly does anymore.

3. He will be asked to be less sloppy in the ring.

He won't listen.

I don't believe this at all because it's trying to make people believe he's being buried when it's all an angle. This smells like Team 3D to WWE or Angelina Love rumors to WWE that never would die and turned out to be another dirtsheet fail.

If he does go to WWE, I wouldn't be upset or care. Because, he's not the guy we all loved and TNA needs to cut some fat (no pun intended). It's clear, TNA is looking at guys to add and build going forward. He's not obviously one of them.

There are so many things just blatantly wrong about this post that I nearly choked on my drink reading it. If you actually think that the WWE wouldn't jump all over Samoa Joe and give him a big push upon his entrance to the company, you are either flat out dumb or just naive. For fuck's sake Vince went out and bought the rights to a 20 year old rock song just to give to CM Punk to help him in this angle, something he's never done before in his life. He's given Punk everything he's wanted, and is catering to him big time right now. You think they wouldn't jump on the chance to bring in one of Punk's best friends and greatest rivals? Are you huffing gasoline?

Anyways, onto the topic itself, I'd love love love to see this. Joe has been criminally misused in TNA for years now, and it's clearly broken him down completely as you can just tell the guy doesn't put anywhere near the amount of effort he used to into his work these days. That said, he's still amazing when motivated (he looked great in that match against Crimson a few months back) and has a lot left to offer this business. I would bet hard money that if the WWE actually does want to bring him in that Joe will let his TNA contract expire and jump ship as soon as he possibly can. And he should, because he's going nowhere in TNA.

Can you imagine how awesome it would be to see Joe in the WWE? Or Punk vs. Joe in a WWE ring? Talk about epic.
 
Lol at Joe.

1. He will be asked to lose weight.

He never does.

2. He will be asked to actually put effort into matches.

He hardly does anymore.

3. He will be asked to be less sloppy in the ring.

He won't listen.

I don't believe this at all because it's trying to make people believe he's being buried when it's all an angle. This smells like Team 3D to WWE or Angelina Love rumors to WWE that never would die and turned out to be another dirtsheet fail.

If he does go to WWE, I wouldn't be upset or care. Because, he's not the guy we all loved and TNA needs to cut some fat (no pun intended). It's clear, TNA is looking at guys to add and build going forward. He's not obviously one of them.


I agree with you totally on many points. I also don't believe the rumors I never do in pro wrestling until it happens. However I still think he could be a major asset to TNA. He's been there for many years now and most diehard TNA fans value him as a major player and a TNA original. Even though he broke through in ROH and other Indy companies around the world.

It's just my opinion but maybe he's just that unhappy with TNA. That he doesn't care about his weight or the quality of his matches. Maybe if he did sign with WWE he would be more willing to improve in the ring and take better care of his physic.

This could be just another false rumor. I personally never thought he would fit in WWE. However the landscape of the WWE has changed greatly recently. For the first time WWE is bracing the social media and catering to the IWC to a point. Joe has a descent following with the IWC and is also a friend of CM Punk who is the main focus of the current change in WWE.

After months the WWE is no longer ignoring Zack Ryders online popularity and are giving Colt Cabana another chance. If he does ever have a chance on going to WWE. I think this would be the time.
 

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