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Rumor: Plans for Orton, Cena & Bryan

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There's an article on the main page detailing some POSSIBLE plans for Daniel Bryan, Randy Orton & John Cena. According to the report, the alleged plan currently calls for Daniel Bryan to defeat John Cena for the championship at SummerSlam, then Orton cashes in his MITB contract, takes the title from Bryan and the result is the long awaited Randy Orton heel turn.

Given news of Orton's apparent "injury" from this week's SD! tapings, there's a chance that WWE will play up the "injury" on Raw this week for the purpose of taking him off television for a while. The desired result from WWE is that this MIGHT make Orton's cash in feel like more of a surprise. Based on current information, one reason why there's a strong possibility of Orton cashing in successfully is that Bryan & Cena aren't scheduled for a rematch at the next ppv, which will be Night of Champions.

When this match was announced, this exact scenario is immediately what came into my head. Bryan defeating Cena at SummerSlam would be an amazing moment, one that I'm sure a lot of people would love to have close the show. It certainly wouldn't bother me. Orton cashing in might put something of a damper on that but, in my opinion, will probably work out for the best in the long run. A heel turn for Orton is something that's been planned since early this year, and Orton cashing in MITB on Daniel Bryan after Bryan just scored the biggest win of his career against the biggest star in wrestling is a perfect chance to put Orton over as a heel. Bryan's the hottest star in wrestling right now and people WANT to cheer for him. Bryan getting "robbed" of this huge moment will, probably, not only facilitate a smooth transition into a heel role for Orton, but will wind up making Bryan sympathetic and cause fans to rally behind him even more. The end result, at least based on simply what I'm thinking, is that Bryan will ultimately defeat Orton for the title and become an even bigger star.
 
This is the absolute best and quickest way to turn Orton heel. Unfortunately, it's at Daniel Bryan's expense. It will be a huge moment when Daniel Bryan beats Cena for the belt and when Orton strikes, he'll be booed out of the building. The way I'd do it is have DB win and be celebrating then have Orton slip into the ring and bash him with a chair or something, then cash in the brief case. Bell rings, Orton hits and RKO on DB and takes the title.
 
Just a beautiful scenario. I'd love to have it play out like this. But what happens to Cena if he drops the belt? He would have to be involved as well heading into Night of Champions.
 
They could just have him cash-in on Raw the next night. Give Bryan his SummerSlam moment and half a celebration on Raw - maybe Dr Shelby comes out, maybe Orton RKO's Dr Shelby.

If they have Bryan celebrating his win on Raw; Orton's heel turn will feel more emphatic. I think that, if they build it correctly, Orton would get more heat. The feud between the three is very exciting. A triple threat at Night of Champions and even Hell In A Cell would be very entertaining.
 
I don't know why but I have a gut feeling Orton is gonna be with Heyman soon. I figure that much like Summerslam a few years ago if Bryan wins he gets attacked by Axel or something then Orton comes down to finish Bryan off and start his heel turn.

I wouldn't be against this happening and it would certainly work but something tells me that Orton isn't cashing in at Summerslam because people are expecting it. WWE seems to like swerving for the sake of swerving these days. I don't see Orton holding onto that briefcase long but I wonder if its gonna be a little after Summerslam instead of at Summerslam. Also considering Orton and Bryan just had a string of matches and a feud they may hold off for a few months.

All in all I'm hoping for the Orton ending, it will piss a lot of people off which will help turning Orton heel, it will create sympathy for Bryan for getting screwed out of his moment and it will make it a lot sweeter when Bryan wins the title back.
 
There's too much money to be left on the table for them not to go with this scenario to be honest.

besides, face champions are pretty boring and I have a feeling Bryan would be a lot like Shawn Michaels, in that he's much better chasing than holding the belt. Him being robbed of his moment and going after Orton would be a great way to cement him as a main eventer that is here to stay.

Could even lead to a Rumble win?
 
If this is the scenario, they should really have Orton go all the way with it. I'm talking cheap shot, cash-in, RKO, win the belt...then keep the assault going, ultimately finishing with a punt to the head. I could see the punt being banned because of concussion stuff, but an all out assault on Bryan is a must. If he just cashes in via a stealthy RKO and pin to end the show with no after-brutality...there's going to be a lot of people cheering. It needs to be vicious, and it should put Daniel Bryan out of action for a bit.

And the bit about putting Orton with Heyman is genius, if you ask me. Orton isn't the best talker, but the look and potential is still undeniably there.
 
Just a beautiful scenario. I'd love to have it play out like this. But what happens to Cena if he drops the belt? He would have to be involved as well heading into Night of Champions.

Not if Orton's attack puts Bryan out of commission. That would leave room for SuperCena to swoop in and invoke rematch clause and fight for D-Bry's honor. Ultimately, I would see Cena building up a different program.
 
Not gonna lie, if Bryan beat Cena then immediately dropped the belt to Orton it would piss me the fuck off, which I realize would kinda be the whole point. That said if they're going to do this than fuck it, they may as well just go all out, have Orton come down hit a celebrating Bryan with an RKO, then as Bryan is trying to life himself back to his feet Orton punts his fucking in. If you are gonna use Bryan massive overness with the fans then have Orton do something so vicious to Bryan that it would kill any trace of overness Orton may have with the fans, what better way to do that than by kicking in teh head of the guy who had fans chanting "Your gonna get your fucking head kicked in!!" to his opponents in ROH? This is assuming of course WWE allows Orton to still use the Punt, with all the recent concussion issues I'm not sure they would.
 
I couldn't agree any more with all of the ideas that've been put forth in this thread.

However I would like it if there was a Triple Threat match at Night of Champions between Bryan, Orton and Cena. Cena wins after Axel(w/Heyman) attacks both Orton and Bryan. That would send any dead crowd into a riot. Have Heyman come out the next night on Raw, cutting a promo about how he always finds the perfect star to represent. This can turn Cena heel, and let him have a series of feuds with a face Brock Lesnar, CM Punk, Bryan, and then challenge Undertaker at WM30 where the streak becomes 22-0.
 
Honestly, Bryan winning and then Orton cashing in to take the title is the best scenario. It could happen at SummerSlam, or it could happen the following night on RAW after Bryan has a rematch with Cena. The question is now that this has been discussed, is the WWE going to get cold feet and want to "surprise" people.

IMO, it would be the wrong move. This is one of those times where you go with what the fans are expecting. It just makes sense. Throwing in a twist for the sake of twists would kill things.
 
IMO, it would be the wrong move. This is one of those times where you go with what the fans are expecting. It just makes sense. Throwing in a twist for the sake of twists would kill things.

Agreed. WWE doesn't need to and shouldn't overthink it here or try to "surprise" us. There's no better way to turn Orton heel. There honestly isn't. If they gave him the case, then they should just go forward with the plans. Don't change it just to throw us off. Sometimes you have to go with the best scenario.
Although we might "know" the final outcome, we don't know how it will transpire. Will Bryan win but be really weakened? Will he be celebrating when Orton sneaks up behind him? Will Orton pummel him and then cash in? All of these things we don't know and that's where WWE can surprise us.
 
I'm not sure if a precedent has been set for cashing in a MITB during a match but if I could have it my way:

Cena vs Bryan would be a back and forth until Bryan has Cena in a finisher and is about to win or has already won and is kneeling and in comes Orton with a punt to Bryan, a cash in, a pin, and a victory.

Optimally it would be Orton pinning Cena via kicking Bryan to keep both Bryan and Cena "strong" as you neckbeards say by not losing cleanly and establishes Orton once again as a top heel.
 
I seems to obvious for WWE to do it at Summerslam. As the OP said it was the first thing that sprang to his mind as it did me to. I can just see it now:

Bryan rolls up Cena for the win (somehow I just don't see Cena tapping out), the crowd goes wild with Bryan leading them in a "YES!" chant. Cena shakes DB's hand and leaves the ring to allow Bryan to celebrate with the crowd, but wait The Shield leap out of the crowd and beat down DB, followed by the triple powerbomb. Cena storms back into the ring and chases The Shield into the crowd. Back in the ring "Voices" hits and Orton comes out with a referee to a chorus of boos and he's cashing in. Orton pounds the mat waiting for Bryan to get to his feet and RKO! 1..2..and DB kicks out! Orton's pissed and moves to the corner lining up DB for a punt. Orton lines up and punts Bryan in the head 1..2..3 New WWE Champion and heel turn for Orton. Like I said I think its a little too obvious but we'll see at Summerslam
 
I see things a little differently. What I would like to see happen, and what I think could work out really well, would be to see Daniel Bryan defeat John Cena at Summerslam. Huge Summerslam moment, Bryan is celebrating like crazy in the ring, and the crowd is going wild. Then Randy Orton's music hits, and out he comes to challenge Bryan for the WWE Championship by way of his MITB briefcase.

The difference is, Bryan defeats Randy Orton at Summerslam as well to retain his WWE Championship, and then the roof really comes off the Staples Center! Orton could come out to redeem his briefcase but not necessarily as a heel. He tells Bryan, who has not been overly decimated by injuries at the hands of John Cena, that he wants to defeat him on a stage as large as Summerslam. In other words, redeeming his briefcase need not mean a heel turn.

However, after being unsuccessful in his attempt, he gets pissed off, and this is what triggers the heel turn. This could happen at Summerslam, immediately after the match, emphasizing the heel turn but raining on Bryan's parade. Or it could happen the next night on RAW, with or without Heyman's involvement.

The end result? Cena drops the title, making 50% of the Universe happy and 50% pissed. Bryan gets his Summerslam moment, in fact he gets two, and everyone is happy. And the long awaited Randy Orton heel turn happens, either at the end of Summerslam or the next night on RAW. And we probably get a triple threat involving John Cena, Daniel Bryan, and Randy Orton at Night of Champions.
 
There's an article on the main page detailing some POSSIBLE plans for Daniel Bryan, Randy Orton & John Cena. According to the report, the alleged plan currently calls for Daniel Bryan to defeat John Cena for the championship at SummerSlam, then Orton cashes in his MITB contract, takes the title from Bryan and the result is the long awaited Randy Orton heel turn.

Given news of Orton's apparent "injury" from this week's SD! tapings, there's a chance that WWE will play up the "injury" on Raw this week for the purpose of taking him off television for a while. The desired result from WWE is that this MIGHT make Orton's cash in feel like more of a surprise. Based on current information, one reason why there's a strong possibility of Orton cashing in successfully is that Bryan & Cena aren't scheduled for a rematch at the next ppv, which will be Night of Champions.

When this match was announced, this exact scenario is immediately what came into my head. Bryan defeating Cena at SummerSlam would be an amazing moment, one that I'm sure a lot of people would love to have close the show. It certainly wouldn't bother me. Orton cashing in might put something of a damper on that but, in my opinion, will probably work out for the best in the long run. A heel turn for Orton is something that's been planned since early this year, and Orton cashing in MITB on Daniel Bryan after Bryan just scored the biggest win of his career against the biggest star in wrestling is a perfect chance to put Orton over as a heel. Bryan's the hottest star in wrestling right now and people WANT to cheer for him. Bryan getting "robbed" of this huge moment will, probably, not only facilitate a smooth transition into a heel role for Orton, but will wind up making Bryan sympathetic and cause fans to rally behind him even more. The end result, at least based on simply what I'm thinking, is that Bryan will ultimately defeat Orton for the title and become an even bigger star.

That's not bad, and it would help take away the traditional babyface pop that the fans give when a MITB winner cashes in... just because they love seeing a title change.

If the plan is to turn Orton heel (makes sense too, because he works best as a heel imo), then you need to do something about that pop. Having Bryan win at Summerslam would be a huge feel good moment for the fans. Daniel Bryan probably is the most over guy on the roster right now. Having Orton cash in immediately and win? Well I can't think of a better way to cement a heel turn than that.

Plus to me at least, the real money with Bryan is in the chase. As the underdog challenger trying to overcome the odds he can do amazing business. As the champion? He'll do good, but I don't think he'd do as good as he would as the challenger. It's similar to Ricky Steamboat back in the day. Steamboat was an amazing challenger. He drew huge money as the challenger. When he was the champ though, he would have a drop off.

I'd book it something like this. Have Bryan beat Cena clean for the title, and let Cena have the obligatory passing the belt/handshake moment. Then while Bryan's celebrating in the ring, have Orton come out with no music. He sneaks up behind Bryan and knocks him out with the briefcase, then cashes it in and has the ref ring the bell. Orton then goes into Viper mode and lies in wait to deliver the RKO and finish off Bryan. Bryan gets up and blocks it, then gets some offense in. This is important to keep Bryan strong. He's just fought a tough match though, and Orton after a couple of minutes is able to subdue Bryan and take him down for the pin. Maybe even have the match go several minutes, include a ref bump and Orton cheating to get the win. The fans will be firmly against Orton for ruining the feel good moment, and clamoring for Bryan to get his revenge and win the belt back.
 
This is what I think WWE should do.

I don't feel that Orton NEEDS the title, but they are going to give it to him anyway. I say make him lose it...in a HEEL fashion.

Cena should lose the title to Bryan, one Bella cheers as the other cries. As Orton comes out to cash in Cena stops him to save Bryan. Orton loses the MITB and the title. He turns and punts Bryan in the head. As Cena runs back Orton runs off as the Bellas look on.

Instant heel for Orton, Bryan still gets to keep the title for a bit. Cena and Orton BOTH invoke rematch clauses and it's a triple threat at the next PPV. THERE you can give Orton the title. You can even have him do something heel-ish to win.
 
I'd book it something like this. Have Bryan beat Cena clean for the title, and let Cena have the obligatory passing the belt/handshake moment. Then while Bryan's celebrating in the ring, have Orton come out with no music. He sneaks up behind Bryan and knocks him out with the briefcase, then cashes it in and has the ref ring the bell. Orton then goes into Viper mode and lies in wait to deliver the RKO and finish off Bryan. Bryan gets up and blocks it, then gets some offense in. This is important to keep Bryan strong. He's just fought a tough match though, and Orton after a couple of minutes is able to subdue Bryan and take him down for the pin. Maybe even have the match go several minutes, include a ref bump and Orton cheating to get the win. The fans will be firmly against Orton for ruining the feel good moment, and clamoring for Bryan to get his revenge and win the belt back.

I'd be fine with that but I'd do it a little differently. I'd have Bryan beat Cena clean, then as Bryan is holding up the belt and running around the ring screaming "YES" while the crowd goes crazy, Orton sneaks through the crowd or from under the ring, comes up behind Bryan, hits the RKO then cashes in the briefcase. As Bryan is starting to get up, have Orton hit the punt on Bryan then pin him to steal the title. He would be booed out of the arena which is exactly what WWE would want to turn him.
 
I really think that we're onto something here, BUT, it strange that this fairly detailed rumor has co e out shortly after the E acknowledged a leak in creative. Coincidence? I have my doubts.

But, for the sake of argument, I don't see it going down the most traditional way. First, Cena IS NOT turning heel and joining Heyman. I think Orton lining up with Heyman in the short term would be brilliant. What I forsee happening, if they go this route would be to avoid the bait and switch, because really, getting the pop and then having the cash in, is the definition of a bait and switch. I'd see Bryan with Cena in the Yes lock right in the middle. Cena's hand is up, about to tap, when Axel and Lesnar show up, Brayn let's go to fight them off, Punk comes down to help, Cena's down in the ring. Orton sneaks in to the time keeper area, the bell rings. The announcers sell it as a DQ, but it's really the bell ringing because Orton has a ref with him. Cena gets up, Orton sneaks in, RKO and pins him. They announce the new champ, which gets Bryan and Punk's attention, which allows Axel and Lesnar to gain dominance, and throw Bryan and Punk into the ring, As they are laid out with Cena, Orton makes like Axel and Lesnar are going to attack him, but then they all three lay into Cena, Bryan and Punk. Orton's a heel, Bryan doesn't lose, has a claim to a title match and Cena takes the loss.
 
If Orton punted Bryan, at the end of the match, he would be boo'd so much. The heat from a punt kick and a knocked out Bryan, would ultimately bring Orton amazing heel status.
 
If Orton cashes in on Bryan after he wins it and it ends up a less than a minute reign for DB after the crowd pops so huge from him winning it, the heat Orton will get will make Vicki so jealous.Maybe to set it up they can have Cena in the match work on a body part(like DB's legs)throughout their match yet DB still wins out of nowhere but after the match DB can hardly stand up and then boom, 'Voices" hits and you know the rest.
 
I still think that, after Bryan wins, Orton should try and fail to cash-in, with Bryan rolling him up for the pin. Then Orton can snap and beat the crap out of Bryan.

I know why WWE wants Orton to successfully cash-in. He basically steals the title from the most beloved underdog the WWE's had in years. It would get him some good heel heat and get Bryan a ton of sympathy, especially after beating Cena clean.

But my problem with Orton's cash-in being successful is that... Well, what happens then? Do you give Orton a decent title run? Do you put the title back on Bryan in a month or two? And what about the likes of RVD and CM Punk? They need to give RVD a title feud to make his short-term stay worthwile, and it's only a matter of time before Punk gets his tattooed hands on the title again.

A successful Orton cash-in kinda messes up the title picture, in my opinion, I think it would cause Bryan to lose the momentum he has now. So keep the title on Bryan, make Orton lose his cash-in, give them a two or three PPV feud that Bryan wins, to make him credible as a champion. Then put him up against RVD and then Punk, when he's done with Lesnar and Heyman.

That would be 3 feuds in a row that are guaranteed to deliver. When's the last time the WWE title had that kind of consistency? Even Punk only ever had 2 great feuds in a row during his 434 days.
 
The long awaited Orton heel turn might finally happen at SummerSlam. While i dont like the fact that he may cash in at Daniel Bryans expense at all,if that is the way of making Orton turn heel then so be it. While I will be super pissed if this is the outcome,to me this is the only outcome that makes sense. As far as the match goes,Daniel and Cena will put on a fucking awesome match. One that will be talked about for years to come.

I guess the only logical thing to do is,have Daniel win barely get to his feet and have orton RKO him and punt him then cash in.
 
While I do agree with this idea, I think it souldn't happen at Summerslam, but rather at Night of champions.

Here is how I can see it going building Daniel Bryan like they did with Jeff Hardy back in 2009. Bryan should be very close to win the WWE championship but ultimately losing at Summerslam. Then have a rematch at Night of Champions where after a long, exhausting and classic match, Daniel Bryan finally wins. Once again, just like in Extreme Rules 09 with Hardy, he is celebrating just for Orton to inmediately cash in. Randy applies an RKO but Bryan kicks out, Orton goes for a second RKO, Bryan still manges to kick out. Frustration takes over on Orton and he beats the living crap out of DB, and he ends with a punt and finally wins the match and the WWE championship.

Have a rematch at the next PPV in a gimmick match (LMS could be a good choice), Bryan is close but once again is defeated by a brutal attack and being on the shelf for a couple of months.

Man I never do this booking thing, but this rumor made me excited because just like some other poster said, if DB wins and Orton cashes in it would piss me the fuck off, but it's an absolute great way to build DB even more.
 

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