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Барбоса;4121181 said:As I have mentioned before, this is not about whether Vader can outrun or survive a lightning bolt (he cannot and Palpatine's Force Lightning is not as powerful as an actual bolt of lightning). This is all about whose powers work the fastest. Can Storm conjure up a *ahem* storm before Vader can do something sinister to her with his sabre or the Force?
Is Vader's connection to the Force faster than Storm's connection to Nature? I have no idea.
However, because I do not think that Storm just conjures weather out of nowhere - she manipulates the atmosphere, I think Vader's powers as the "Chosen One" born of the Force can have an affect on her more quickly. The Force is instantaneous; conjuring up lightning is not.
In a way, this works in a similar way to Vader's defeat of Professor X last year - Storm's tapping into her powers leaves her open to attack and while that lightning cloud is forming, Vader has a hold of her by Force Choke, Pushes or Pulls her, breaking her concentration.
Of course, Storm has other weather at her finger tips and a wind based attack could easily relieve Vader of his lightsabre and she does not need to go for the big lightning stroike straight away.
However, should Vader launch an all out "First Strike," something which he is most capable of doing, I do not see what Storm can do about it quickly enough.
But if he doesn't end her early, he may never.
and it will disarm his lightsaber for at least the time being (assuming lightsabers run on electricity in one way or another).
I'm not making my vote yet, though I'm leaning toward Storm. Lightsabers do not run on electricity though, they run off a power crystal. The only way Storm could disable his lightsaber is with another lightsaber or heavily damaging the housing unit that holds the crystal, which is super difficult.
Does the crystal magically power it, or does it provide some sort of charge that allows it to operate? If the crystal operates as some sort of battery than that means there's an electrical charge, which means it would be disrupted by an EMP.
He's strong, but was never as skilled at actually manipulating the force as Yoda was. He lacked the conviction and discipline for the training.
Storm can lift opponents in a whirlwind and bombard them with wind and rain into the process. How does Vader enforce a Force Choke on her when he is spinning around at great speed and getting his circuits fried?
I really can't comprehend how Vader is winning this at the moment, asides from Thor - who else is better suited to exploit his Achilles heel?
Ok, seriously? Vader is a boss, admittedly, but no way in hell he could beat Ororo Munroe. Literally, the only chance he has of beating her would be with the Force Choke.
*LOGIC ALERT*
Quick question: have you ever seen someone actually MOVE while using the force? Exactly. It's a relatively stagnant move that, I imagine, would be hard to do with 100 mph winds and lightning bolts flying at your face. Storm wins.
People move while using Force powers all the time. Simple moves like Force push can be used while walking or in a battle. Its just that the more serious stuff, like moving spaceships, requires immense concentration and moving around makes that hard.
DirtyJosé;4123255 said:By A New Hope, Vader NEVER displays this ability. Any time he chokes someone, it's the only thing he's doing, and he's never moving. Look at the jedi before him, including pre-mauling Anakin, and then look at Vader. He just can't move like he used to.
Storm has this.
I voted for Storm. It pains me because I am a huge Star Wars nerd and I like Vader, but I was just answering a question. Its true that in terms of his mobility Anakin was much much faster and agile than before he defeat on Mustafar, but once he channeled the full power of the dark side, his ability with the force was almost unmatched.
Storm takes it though because she is just too fast and Vader relies on too much equipment to keep him breathing, and The Emperor shorted out his respirator with his force lighting. I'm not sure if it was completely destroyed or just shorted out for an extended period of time, but it lead to his death. All Storm needs to do is repeat that feat and she wins.