Report: Vince Upset At Seattle Crowd?

[Jack-Hammer]

According to a report from F4WOnline.com, Vince McMahon was said to be pretty pissed backstage due to the Seattle crowd essentially hijacking the show during the Championship Ascension ceremony on Raw. The report goes onto say that while Bryan being especially huge in Seattle, which is only a little over 100 miles from Bryan's hometown of Aberdeen, that such a reaction wasn't expected. There isn't anything indicating that Vince was upset with Bryan or anything along those lines, nor should there be. Backstage, John Cena was speaking to Vince and essentially calmed him down by simply explaining that the fans were having fun.

I'm not sure that I buy into the validity of this little story. We all know that Vince McMahon is a huge control freak who has a habit of micromanaging everything to the point of a compulsion, but just seems unlikely to me that he couldn't foresee Bryan getting such a big reaction. I, for one, fail to see how and the other WWE brass couldn't have expected Bryan to get the reaction he did. For one reason, Bryan's been one of the most over talents on the roster for the past two years and his popularity as a babyface since the ending of Team Hell No has been on an even kilter with Punk and Cena. For another, Daniel Bryan was basically the hometown boy. Vince has been around the block long enough to know that hometown crowds can be pretty damn rowdy when the hometown boy has been as popular as Bryan's become.

 

[klunderbunker]

Fans: We don't like what you're putting on and we're going to let you know about it.

Vince: YOU WILL LIKE WHAT WE TELL YOU TO LIKE NOW SIT DOWN, SHUT UP AND PAY SIXTY BUCKS FOR THE SHOW ON SUNDAY!!!

The Seattle crowd simply did not care what WWE was doing and wanted to cheer someone else instead. That's on WWE, not the crowd. The fans paid their money to be entertained and were telling WWE that they didn't like what was being presented. You can't say they were hijacking the show as HHH holding Bryan down was the top story for months and the fans were supposed to not be pleased. They were voicing their opinion against the storyline which is the desired reaction. If Vince is mad that it came at the wrong time, schedule your touring better.

 

[MCMG]

If this is legit, you'd think Vince would lighten up in his old age. They are performing in front of a live crowd in an industry build on the reaction of its audience. The wonderful thing about the WWE is that it's sports entertainment. It's a mix of different things and it is a shame he just can't accept the audience want to shout. It shows people are invested and all the very best got a reaction of some description. If they were chanting for HBK then I'm sure he wouldn't care less.

I mean, it's not as if the audience was chanting anything obscene. They were chanting for a wrestler, that he employs. If this is genuine then it's a little ridiculous. That being said he has devoted his life to this and wanting to be a control freak probably isn't a shocking revelation: I'd probably be the same. The title ceremony was meant to be a big deal and Bryan was in danger of stealing the spotlight.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

The report feels kind of flaky to me. Although, I will say this, one thing I noticed during the whole segment is Triple H. Call me crazy, but I got the sense he was visibly annoyed by the crowd chanting "YES!" over and over again. After a while, Triple H couldn't ignore the fans, and he had to address the chants. Who knows, maybe he said something to Vince?

With that said, I find it hard to believe Vince McMahon of all people would be caught off guard by the fans constantly chanting. WWE was in Daniel Bryan's backyard, so you had to know the fans were going to go nuts for him. To add to that, I can guarantee you if the show took place in Chicago, we would've heard a barrage of "CM Punk!" chants during the Ascension segment. If Vince is seriously upset at the Seattle crowd, than he's really delusional and out of touch with everything.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

According to a report from F4WOnline.com, Vince McMahon was said to be pretty pissed backstage due to the Seattle crowd essentially hijacking the show during the Championship Ascension ceremony on Raw. The report goes onto say that while Bryan being especially huge in Seattle, which is only a little over 100 miles from Bryan's hometown of Aberdeen, that such a reaction wasn't expected. There isn't anything indicating that Vince was upset with Bryan or anything along those lines, nor should there be. Backstage, John Cena was speaking to Vince and essentially calmed him down by simply explaining that the fans were having fun.

Right, this has about all the authenticity of the Weekly World News.

Oh, the most over guy in the WWE got overwelming reactions in his home area? From a crowd which is known to be batshit insane? (12th man in the NFL)


Im suuurree Vince never saw that coming. Just more fodder for IWC fuckwits. Seriously, just shut the fuck up. Come on. (not you, JH, the site)

 

[Danger Burger]

Well said Norc. Vince being upset is also the last thing I could ever care about. Let him come out and spew hatred on us all, or work a little harder in getting everyone over as good as bryan. Then I'll pay some attention.

Do we really think he cares who's over? I'm sure he cares who isn't. But so long as he can still sleep soundly in his solid gold mansion on a bed of money, I doubt he mind who the crowd cheers for!

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Horseshit. This report is horseshit. Who in their right mind is going to risk their livelihood to share a story about the chairman of the company they work for? This is either a plant by WWE to further Vince's persona or just made up pablum.

Plus, WWE held The Slammy's that night for a reason. It wasn't a coincidence that Bryan won those awards in his home state. WWE (even Vince) know the fans would have a huge hard on for Bryan every time he appeared.

 

[DietPepsiRocks]

They have to be regretting the fact that DB isn't in that unification match. It would be a great time to pass the torch to the new generation in the WWE instead of having a match between two guys nobody cares about anymore. Instead, its the same old same old and people are shitting on it. Why can't Vince see how popular DB is? I just dont' understand it.

 

[CM Steel]

This kinda reminds me of the news that I heard earlier today about the city of Seattle being upset with rap producer Dr. Dre for putting their rival teams QB in a TV ad for his famous headphones, but in reverse. The reaction Vince heard this past monday night is how over Daniel Bryan is in his hometown. He's over with the crowd wherever he goes! Maybe Vince McMahon hasn't seen anything like that in a long time. But yeah Vinnie Mac just needs to kick back or just retire, soon.

 

[LODemolition]

If this is true, then I have a question and a statement. The statement is Vince should be thrilled that someone on the roster not named Dwayne Johnson can get a reaction like that. They're in desperate need of stars. And my question is: What the hell did you think would happen in Seattle, this close to DB's home?

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

I doubt this is true, because being mad at the crowd doesn't make sense... being mad at Bryan would make more sense.

Why? Because Vince McMahon always wants someONE to blame, not something or a group of people. To be that delusional and be mad at a crowd for cheering something during a part of the show would make Vince look like a crazy person.

I doubt that there's any validation to this, but I really wouldn't doubt Vince burying Bryan to stick it to the fans because of this. Vince's ego is pretty big.

 

[GOOZEKING]

I don't know now, you see I doubt he angry at crowd. He probably just angry at bryan for doing his job to well. I wouldn't be surprised if bryan turns heel and joins Wyatt's in Vince way of kicking all of us in the crotch.

 

[The Scarred One]

If this is true, than Vince McMahon really needs to check his priorities. How can he be angry at the Seattle crowd for cheering for someone who is a hometown hero and the hottest act in the company? If anything, he should be happy that someone who is not named John Cena or isn't a part-timer can get such huge reactions wherever he goes.

I think Vince's problem is that he doesn't like what he can't control. Paul Heyman once said in an interview that Vince gets angry when he sneezes because he can't control them. But one shouldn't be upset just because the fans choose to cheer for someone else. A lot of people say that Daniel Bryan can't draw money. With the crowd as hot for him not just in Seattle but anywhere the WWE goes to, why not just give it a chance? Give Bryan a run as champion and see if he can draw money.

People say Bryan's size is a factor, but it's funny since he and Cena are pretty much the same size, give or take a few inches. Another thing to consider is that Bryan was in the same ring with Cena, Randy Orton, Triple H, CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels and Mick Foley. Yet despite that amount of star power, he still got a bigger reaction than them. Now if it was in Chicago, I'm sure there would've been strong support for Punk. But Bryan would've been just as over, if not more so. If he was just a fad, he would've faded away a long time ago.

So how can people say he can't draw if they don't even try it out? What's the worst that could happen? It's not as if the company will go out of business if he's champion for more than one day...right?

 

[Turnz05]

I think the TLC match should have been a 4 way for the unified title. That would have been one of the best matches of all time right there. Punk vs Bryan vs Cena vs Orton for both belts hanging above the ring.

The Wyatt's and The Shield could have done something else.

But on topic, it seems like WWE have been trying to put a lid on Bryan's popularity. Whether they are doing this purposely to reach a bigger boiling point down the road is a possibility. However, people want Bryan in the main event again now. I hope he wins the rumble.

 

[thebowtiekiller]

daniel bryan is actually the most popular active wrestler on the roster and therefore gets a big reaction wherever he is so as was already mentioned its almost certain vince would be aware of the huge response he would get as a hometown hero. i think the report is true and vince was annoyed but i think its more to do with the fact that he was trying to sell a ppv and there was an entire arena full of people chanting boring at the two main eventers when they are trying to big up the title unification.its obvious vince wouldnt be happy.

 

[Pedigree1]

why in the blue hell would anyone care that Vince was upset about what happened on Monday Night. Really DB got a lot of love in essentially his home town on Mon Night? The hell you say... Seattle is a very dedicated and their fans are batshit crazy... Their Loud and one of the few fans that actually voice their opinions.. Vince needs to lighten up in his old age,if indeed the reports are true!

 

[DB-Fan]

I'll only say a couple of things.

First, I don't doubt the report only because we are talking about Vince McMahon, a known egotist of the highest order. I think some people give him too much benefit of the doubt when it comes to this issue. We think that he's always going to literally do "what's best for business" [i.e., his pocketbook], but I'm not as convinced that he'll just lay his ego down all the time for money. It seems to me he can be very controlling and, at times, lose sight of things like this because he personally just doesn't get it, see it, or understand it. To him no fan should prefer a Daniel Bryan to a Randy Orton, so it wouldn't shock me if he really was bothered by this.

Second, if Bryan actually does join the Wyatts this Sunday then we'll all know for sure this report wasn't a joke. Everyone and their grandmother knows it makes absolutely zero sense to turn Bryan and have him join Bray & family. It would kill some measure of his buzz and hence not be a wise move. So if Vince and creative actually go this route it will demonstrate to me, once and for all, that they really would like to deflate the wheels on the Daniel Bryan bus right now. So I'm anxious to see how this idiotic "join us" thing plays out because it will tell me alot about how much Vince/HHH are committed to bringing Bryan's popularity back down to earth.

 

[DietPepsiRocks]

actually, to me, if they turn Bryan heel, it'll show me that they won't allow anyone to get to Cena's level. But we all know the truth don't we? He hit Cena's level a LONNNNGGGG time ago! he's better than Cena in every sense of the word...this will be the ultimate test..If they turn him heel this Sunday...ha ha can't wait to see the ratings then...and all the Bullshit chants! for the life of me, I don't know how they're ignoring this, does anyone know why they're ignoring DB's popularity? why not give him the championship? what's the problem? what are they worried about? like seriously! Oh, and there was another Daniel Bryan chant on Smackdown when Orton and HHH were in the ring LOL its becoming like a war cry LOL

 

[THTRobtaylor]

If this is true then it is the reason for all the corporate changes. Vince genuinely seems to be out of touch now and I am certain we will see him step aside come Mania 30. The issue of course is that Vince has always believed in the "Audience of One" and to an extent it has gotten the company this far. But clearly the fans in many arenas, the internet even by not buying PPV's or watch are starting to reclaim their right to be the audience catered to.

I can imagine this being true and Cena pretty much having to tell Vince "You WANTED a new star and you got him...not who you want but it's what they want that matters".

You can even imagine an even more awkward situation in the boardroom where that "storyline" about Vince being phased out is now becoming a reality... At what point is he the elephant in the room cos arguably it's very close if this is even remotely an accurate report. Does Linda then go as well? No wonder Vince is stressed.

 

[Mustang Sally]

...I find it hard to believe Vince McMahon of all people would be caught off guard by the fans constantly chanting.

According to a report from F4WOnline.com: Vince McMahon future endeavors all wrestling fans from Seattle


If he's that much of a control freak, we may yet see this type of thing.

While Daniel Bryan is extremely over, I still maintain that many fans at arena shows aren't fans of wrestling; they come to the shows to be doing the same things as everyone else....which is their greatest comfort in life. For that reason, I believe the crowd sometimes takes to a slogan even more than they take to an individual performer. Daniel's chant is the hottest thing going now in pro wrestling; maybe even hotter than Daniel the performer. Add in the fact he's in his home state and you have the crowd reaction that disturbed Vince McMahon so much.

In my opinion, he should be happy his audience is showing any reaction at all, given the number of times you look at the crowd on your TV screens and see them either sitting quietly in their seats.....or texting someone outside the arena, not even bothering to look at what's going on in the ring.

 

[tvcolosi]

Even since the Punk angle 2.5 years ago i have been under the impression that someone in WWE leaks stories like this purposely. There is no way any promoter EVER would be upset that someone he books gets what might be one of the best sustained reactions across 3 hours for one guy I've ever heard. I think they have learned how to work the internet fans a little bit since younger guys (younger than VMK. like Punk, Cena, HHH) have had some influence on stories.

I mentioned this a few months ago on another post. The story that convinced me that they leak this stuff was the RAW mach in February between Punk and Cena for Cenas Mania match. I am sure most of us remember that match, 2 commercial breaks, 23 minutes or so, really great match. I am sure we all also recall Punk using the piledriver and reports that Vince was "outraged" back stage after the match because of it. I started thinking "no way the 2 tops guys in the world would go out and do one of the 3-4 moves they are not supposed to do without it severing a purpose." But one small leak by someone and the internet talked about Vince and that great match for about 2 weeks.

 

[asiatic7]

Vince upset...whether or not, true or false, you can't control the audience. I know he'd like to, but that's not reality. I was more bothers by HHH and John Cena's actions. I think Hunter hates that he was never THAT over during any part of his career. You could see and hear it in his voice. And John Cena using Daniel to get over with the crowd was completely shameless. What a kiss ass, I'm sure he felt a little burned too. The WWE universe knows what they want. It's not another Cena- Orton rivalry. And regardless of how ol Vinny Mac feels, the people love Daniel Bryan.... Give them what they want.
When was the last time you ordered a Big Mac and got a quarter pounder, and the guy behind the register told you, "we have the Big Mac, but I prefer to give you a quarter pounder..." Just let the people have what they want....

....Daniel, not a burger. Go vegan.

 

[closet_fan]

Out of that entire post, I find it odd that Cena is the one who had to calm Vince down. Does he have that much clout with the boss that he is the one who needs to step up and temper the fires? You'd think it'd be HHH or Stephanie, unless they felt the same exact way. It's not the crowds fault. What do you expect when it's close to DB's hometown, ala Chicago to Punk, etc.

I do believe that Bryan has seen his last days as a face, unfortunately. Punk got too big for his britches, which is why he was placed with Heyman. Punk as a heel by himself wouldn't have lasted, so give him to someone the fans already hate.

If Bryan turns heel, then we'll know he got a little too close to the Cena star and will need to be reeled back a bit. And even that may backfire since DB's heel time was still getting him cheers from the crowd.

Could we see Bryan be the NEW Paul Heyman guy? The "Devil" analogies does start to come into context.

 

[The Perfect Max]

It's never Vince McMahon's fault is it? To be honest, I was happy to see this reaction. Coming to Seattle for Monday Night Raw, Daniel Bryan should have been prominent. It makes sense for him to be. He's been in a top storyline since WrestleMania 29.

How Vince didn't see this coming is anybody's guess. Not only has he become bitter in his old age, he's become senseless and stupid. He's been the man since before 1985, yet still doesn't understand that the hometown hero will get the big pop. Okay.

Damn it sounds like we're hating on Vince here, but seriously, he's an idiot for not seeing it. It's like going back to Money in the Bank 2011, was Chicago really going to boo CM Punk. Not a chance in hell.

This is pretty stupid in the long run though. John Cena gets big reactions, CM Punk gets big reactions, Randy Orton gets big reactions, but that's it. WWE needs big stars, and Daniel Bryan is matching and occasionally surpassing these guys. It's the same story with guys like Dolph Ziggler and Kofi Kingston, they got a chance, and when they had it, they ran with it, yet still got nowhere. The simple answer is WWE doesn't like what the fans like. It's one of those relationships.

On a somewhat related note, I've come to realize that Vince seems to hate a lot of guys on his roster for being successful. But you sign them, don't you Vince? You're the one giving them the green light. If he's going to be angry at anyone for the way Seattle exploded for Bryan, it should be himself for allowing him to get big.

 

[The Eighties]

The report I read actually never mentioned Vince or that he was upset with the fans, just that WWE officials in general were upset that the segment got hijacked and that it didn't promote the actual match that is headlining the PPV this Sunday as much as they wanted.

It also said that Orton was pissed off at Cena and Punk over the segment, and that Cena went way off script, something I imagine is true as he had to in order to get the crowd in line, something that displayed just how good of a showman and mic man he is.

Bryan's name was chanted over Orton vs Show at Survivor Series and their house show matches, it was chanted over Triple H and Steph the next night on Raw as well, WWE were surely well aware that fans are not happy with the outcome of the Bryan vs The Authority angle. It's pretty noticeable that Show has been dropped like a hot brick from the main event scene.

What probably took everyone by surprise was the sheer volume of the Daniel Bryan chant in that main event segment, I've never heard anything like it, especially for a guy not actually involved in the match being featured in the segment, it was so loud and sustained. Triple H and Steph looked annoyed but then they are heels, it's their job, the only thing for sure is Orton was rattled by it and the boring chant.

It's hard to truly gauge how WWE feel about Bryan, he was clearly moved out of the title picture but then moved back into things last week with his promo to Orton on Smackdown, then this week Cena said he'd give him the first title shot, now Cena may know he's losing on Sunday and therefore it's an empty statement but it put it out there to the fans.

Also a defining moment in that segment was Bryan knocking out HBK just after Punk decks Triple H, these things were not off the cuff and were replayed more than once throughout WWE shows this week. So I'd say/hope WWE are aware of the guys who are hugely over, it could just be a case of trying to save the big stuff for Mania season, we shall see.