Remove From The Hall Of Fame

[Undercurrent]

There have been an endless amount of threads dedicated to the WWE Hall Of Fame and who deserves to be inducted. I feel it would be worth taking a 180 and asking the question, who did NOT deserve to be inducted.

If you could remove any three members of the WWE Hall Of Fame who would they be and why?

Please put personal bias aside and take a look at popularity, impact, wrestling ability and all of the other important categories.

 

[TheLoneWolf]

After going over the list of HoFer's on WWE's website, I'd say that aren't really any members that don't deserve to be in there. Yes, some of the shouldn't have been inducted at this point considering there are so many greats that have yet to be inducted (Macho Man; which may never happen, Scott Hall, Owen Hart, Stu Hart, just to name a few). The ones that do not deserve Hall of Fame status are Pete Rose and the Frig. There is no need for celebrity inductees in a wrestling Hall of Fame. If there was, Mr. T should be in it, since he was involved in the first two Manias and shit, even K-Fed did good when he was in WWE or at least I thought he did and he got a lot of praise from the guys backstage. Maybe he'll be in there in a couple of years.

 

[Chris in SC]

1. Koko B. Ware - Now, I liked him as a kid. Even named a pet cockatiel 'Frankie', but he was a mid-carder. I hadn't even thought about him for a decade before the HOF announcement. And singing 'Piledriver' does not add to his HOF credentials.

2. JYD - See above, minus the Frankie comments. And 'Grab them Cakes' was worse than Piledriver.

3. Tito Santana - Again, a mid-carder to occasional main-eventer as a tag competitor. Very good, yes. HOF, no.

Overall it seems like alot of 80's wrestlers got in that weren't huge. George Steele, Don Muraco, Greg Valentine (but I can make the argument for him). Pre 1980 and post 1992 or so, it seems like a Hall of Fame. For the 80's it seems like a hall of 'very good'.

I might get banned for this, but it seems like JYD and Koko and maybe even Tito were affirmative-action candidates.

Honorable Mention - Pete Rose and William Perry. A celebrity 'Mania apperance doesn't = HOF. Who's next, Kid Rock? Donald Trump? (although of all the celebrities, him and Mr. T are the only semi-logical choices).

 

[mrstlouis]

1. Koko B. Ware - Now, I liked him as a kid. Even named a pet cockatiel 'Frankie', but he was a mid-carder. I hadn't even thought about him for a decade before the HOF announcement. And singing 'Piledriver' does not add to his HOF credentials.

2. JYD - See above, minus the Frankie comments. And 'Grab them Cakes' was worse than Piledriver.

3. Tito Santana - Again, a mid-carder to occasional main-eventer as a tag competitor. Very good, yes. HOF, no.

Overall it seems like alot of 80's wrestlers got in that weren't huge. George Steele, Don Muraco, Greg Valentine (but I can make the argument for him). Pre 1980 and post 1992 or so, it seems like a Hall of Fame. For the 80's it seems like a hall of 'very good'.

I might get banned for this, but it seems like JYD and Koko and maybe even Tito were affirmative-action candidates.

Honorable Mention - Pete Rose and William Perry. A celebrity 'Mania apperance doesn't = HOF. Who's next, Kid Rock? Donald Trump? (although of all the celebrities, him and Mr. T are the only semi-logical choices).

every wrestler you named is more popular then any midcard wrestler today.all the wrestlers in WWF in the 80's were great & better then wrestlers in the 90's & today. JYD ,Tito Santana,Koko B. Ware, George Steele, Don Muraco, & Greg Valentine wre vesy popular in the 80's. i should know i was born in 1978 & have watched wrestling since i was a baby . i saw hogan win the title . wrestling in the 80's was more popular then most people thought . wrestling in the 80's was more popular then today's wrestling . every wrestler in WWf in the 80's is hall of fame worthy. in the 80's WWF"s roster had the best wrestlers in the world anywhere.that is why most of them belong in hall of fame because Vince stole the best wrestlers from everywhere in the 80's. every wrestler you named was a top start somewher esle then WWF . so they do belong in hall of fame.. only the celebrities don't belong.

 

[Chris in SC]

I grew up watching wrestling in the 80's (born in 1974). I do agree that wrestling was super-popular in the 80's and most of that era's upper-mid/lower-upper carders from then would be slam-dunk PPV headliners today.

Maybe it's because the era was so talent-rich in the WWE that's skewing my thoughts. Also the dynamic of just how huge Hogan was in that era overshadows alot of other greats sometimes.

It's like they say in football, baseball etc 'It's tough to compare among eras'

I don't doubt the greatness of Steele, Muraco, Valentine, Santana etc. (I do still question whether Koko was great vs very good).

 

[mrstlouis]

I grew up watching wrestling in the 80's (born in 1974). I do agree that wrestling was super-popular in the 80's and most of that era's upper-mid/lower-upper carders from then would be slam-dunk PPV headliners today.

Maybe it's because the era was so talent-rich in the WWE that's skewing my thoughts. Also the dynamic of just how huge Hogan was in that era overshadows alot of other greats sometimes.

It's like they say in football, baseball etc 'It's tough to compare among eras'

I don't doubt the greatness of Steele, Muraco, Valentine, Santana etc. (I do still question whether Koko was great vs very good).

koko was a main eventer in memphis & texas . it is cool to see people older then me like you on here & are just a smart as me about wrestling because we grew up in the good era of wrestling.

 

[JohnCenaSucks316]

First point the WWE just doesn't honor the guys on what they did in the WWWF/WWF/WWE they honor them on their careers within the wrestling/sports entertainment profession:

Koko B. Ware - In a world which at the time some territories hated the use of black men (ass holes) in wrestling and Koko rose above it and held various titles including SEVEN AWA Southern Tag Titles to my recollection. Plus Koko along with Junkyard Dog where the first two "African American wrestlers" to wrestle in a one on one main event match.

Junkyard Dog - This guy was OVER big style in wrestling that is why Vince McMahon Jr brought him to the WWF because of how over he was. He won the Stampede Wrestling Title on two occasions and his feud with Ted DiBiase in 1982 was off the damn scales. I recommend any fanto try and find those matches. THAT IS WRESTLING. Plus as above JYD was the one half of the 1st ever all black main event put together by the apparent racist Bill Watts.

Tito Santana - 2 time IC Champ. 2 Time WWWF Tag Champ and the countless places he sold out before WWWF/WWF and the countless titles he won.

Chris in SC you know nothing about our era and if you did you would see why we bitch about why this era sucks.

The only two that don't belong there are Pete Rose and Willie the fridge because in wrestling they achieved nothing. Getting attacked by Kane at Mania doesn't merit a Hall Of Fame induction and if it does we should induct Chavo Guerrero right now and winning a battle royal dosent merit an induction either otherwise we should induct The Great Khali.

 

[CKO]

1. Koko B. Ware - Now, I liked him as a kid. Even named a pet cockatiel 'Frankie', but he was a mid-carder. I hadn't even thought about him for a decade before the HOF announcement. And singing 'Piledriver' does not add to his HOF credentials

Koko deserves to be in the HOF, have u even stopped to read about his accomplishments? if not, here they are:

Championship Wrestling from Florida

NWA United States Tag Team Championship (Florida version) (1 time) - with Norvell Austin

Continental Wrestling Association

AWA Southern Tag Team Championship (7 times) - with Norvell Austin (3), Bobby Eaton (2), Stan Lane (1), and Dutch Mantel (1)
NWA Mid-America Heavyweight Championship (6 times)
NWA Mid-America Television Championship (1 time)
International World Class Championship Wrestling
IWCCW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

NWA Big Time Wrestling

NWA Texas Tag Team Championship (1 time) - Kerry Von Erich

Pro Wrestling Illustrated

PWI Rookie of the Year (1979)

PWI ranked him #406 of the 500 best singles wrestlers during the "PWI Years" in 2003.

Real Wrestling Federation

RWF Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
Supreme Championship Wrestling
SCW Supreme Championship (1 time)[19]
United States Wrestling Association
USWA Unified World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
USWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Rex Hargrove

World Wrestling Entertainment
WWE Hall of Fame (2009)


pretty damn impressive if you ask me....

on who should be taken out...easy..pete rose. what did he ever do? just got tombstoned by Kane...if that's the case, every ref, preacher etc that got tombstoned by kane should be inducted.

 

[Clevelands best]

I personally think the 80's/90's era is loads better than now. The wrestlers were wrestlers, not spokesmen. Don't get me wrong, they did more than wrestle then too. There were so many big names back in the day. Hogan, Savage, Rude, DiBiase, Warrior, Hart, Henning, and many more. how many BIG names are there in this era? 4, maybe 5. Cena, Austin, Rock, HHH, and maybe 2 or 3 others.

 

[SAMBOLIEWWE]

Pete Rose- and the Fridge- for the above, and other obvious reasons.

The reason Pete Rose was inducted, was to create buzz for WM XX . The betting scandal that he was involved in, would not allow him to be inducted into the baseball hall of fame. ( he is our version of the Macho Man )

So WWE puts him in their Hall to create a buzz on the Sports channels, like they do with other stints around WM ( Trump, Floyd Mayweather , Rourke ) and it worked. But now u have this joke sitting in the WWE hall of fame, and all that buzz is long gone. And the Fridge was such a waste of time, put a big mark on what was to be one of the biggest nights in WWE history , Bret Hart going in.

as for people saying Santana , and JYD not going in, give your heads a shake, or actually do some research on Wrestling History, morons .

 

[Mark0820]

Only the celebrity inductees. Before the 80s, wrestling was highly territorial. The regional championships back then were huge, especially the NWA, Mid-South and AWA.

 

[rowdy ruben]

1)pete rose-the guy never had a match. jst cause he got tombstone from kane does not make him hof material

2)the von erichs. im a big fan but what kind of example for young kids are they. 3 of them commited suicide. its shows that drugs nd taking ur own life can still get u honered

3)eddie guerrero. im not saying he shouldent be in the hof but wwe should of waited a few yrs

 

[kenvin100]

1)pete rose-the guy never had a match. jst cause he got tombstone from kane does not make him hof material

2)the von erichs. im a big fan but what kind of example for young kids are they. 3 of them commited suicide. its shows that drugs nd taking ur own life can still get u honered

3)eddie guerrero. im not saying he shouldent be in the hof but wwe should of waited a few yrs

I agree completely with Guerrero to some extent..he was only inducted cause of his untimely death..theres surely a huge lineup of potential HOFers before he should be in it..he would've been inducted after his death most likely..it not like he revolutionized the world of wrestling in any way..

Definitely Pete Rose, if you induct him, you might as well induct Floyd Mayweather, Donald Trump, Mike Tyson, and Mickey Rourke

 

[Punk13]

two words Pete Rose! What was WWE thinking i mean he got inducted before Hulk Hogan and even before Bret Hart. Dumb decision on there part.

 

[Pimpin]

1. Pete Rose- Even though I am not a fan of Hogan(I do recognize what he did for wrestling). I will admit that it's a damn shame that Pete Rose got in the Hall Of Fame before legends like Hogan or Bret Hart. If he gets inducted for Kane beating his ass for a few wrestlemanias then you might as well induct Chavo Guerrero in the Hall Of Fame at this point.

2. The Fridge- One of the great players from the 85 Bears but honestle WTF has he done in the ring besides competing in the battle royal. Hell if you inducted him for competing in the battle royal then you might as well induct the Shitsky's & the male cheerleading crew(Spirit Squad) in the Hall Of Fame for how lame they were.

I'm not gonna name a third superstar on the count that I personally can't think of one.

 

[hotwater10]

Pete Rose​

C'mon! He can't even get in the Hall of Fame he has the most hits ever in. WITCH IS THE POINT OF THE GAME! Also, if he was kicked out Mr.T would go in. (In a interview he said he would) But any way. What did he do? Get killed by Kane every WrestleMania for like 4 years? Awesome

 

[Harthan]

There's absolutely no question as to my first two removals. It's not an original choice, but it can't be considered a bad choice - Pete Rose and William Perry have absolutely no business in the Hall of Fame. Frankly, I'm not entirely objective to the celebrity wing concept, but why not have some celebrities who actually did anything important in the WWE? I mean, Mr. T should have been the number one spot in the celebrity wing, and frankly, I could accept Lawrence Taylor there as well. Pete Rose did nothing but get his ass kicked by Kane thrice, and Perry was nothing more than an NFL member of the Mania 2 Battle Royal. Horrid choices.

If I was to pluck someone else out, it'd be High Chief Peter Maivia. Rocky Johnson I can accept - he's sort of a history maker with the first black tag team champions in the WWF, alright. But Maivia was little more than a regional guy who booked a promotion in Hawaii. Whoo. We all know he's in because he's the Rock's grandfather, and that's really his most important accomplishment. On the whole, pretty undeserving of a Hall of Fame spot.

 

[Sean Valjean]

Pete Rose: Was never a wrestler, nor a part of any wrestling company in any capacity. As such, he should not be in a wrestling hall of fame.

William Perry: *See Pete Rose*

Koko B. Ware: He was nothing but a glorified jobber with a bird. Sure he was popular, but there have been tons of popular guys and most of them have far better resumes than Koko.

 

[Reg]

Harthan Have you even seen what High Chief" Peter Maivia accomplished?

NWA All-Star Pro Wrestling
o NWA Australasian Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
o NWA New Zealand Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

NWA Big Time Wrestling
o NWA Texas Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

NWA Hollywood Wrestling
NWA Americas Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

NWA Mid-Pacific Promotions
o NWA Hawaii Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
o NWA Hawaii Tag Team Championship (4 times) - with Jim Hady (1), Billy White Wolf (1), and Sam Steamboat (2)

NWA New Zealand
o NWA New Zealand British Empire Commonwealth Heavyweight Championship (2 times)

NWA San Francisco
oNWA United States Heavyweight Championship (San Francisco version) (2 times)
oNWA World Tag Team Championship (San Francisco version) (1 time)[1] - with Ray Stevens

Not bad for someone the came from Samoa

 

[The Doctor]

Actually, I think Pete Rose does deserve to be in. I know this is an unpopular statement, but he DID appear in three or so WWE events. If they MUST have a celebrity wing, I think he should be in, as well as Trump and Mr. T. Too bad Mr. T denied it...

The Fridge should definitely not be in.

 

[Scott Free]

I'd go with the popular selection of Pete Rose and William Perry, Coco B. Ware deserves to be there, he's just being put there before many other more deserving wrestlers, and that ticks off some people. Peter Maivia was one of my favorites, I've seen him wrestle at the Olympic auditorium in the NWA and he was quite a performer, crowd loved him.

 

[Chrisjeffers]

God Damn man?
Do you even know what happens when someone becomes a "hall of famer"?
The sell they're wwf/wwe name to vince for a small pay check... possibly more then one...
Most wrestlers don't want to sell their name to wwe...
Thats why we have pete rose and koko beware in the hof!

The hof was a really bad idea... cause of vince being a greedy baboon!

 

[Chrisjeffers]

I love it when these kids have opinions! they're so unfounded. And without any research!
Every single person that people have been naming off has worked for wwf/wwe and has put on an entertaining show....
Pete rose does steroids... so he can't be in the baseball HOF... To bad...
How about this.... you get beat up by kane again and you can join the wrestling HOF...
I don't know where I read this but someone said Pete rose never had a match so he shouldn't be in the HOF.... Let me ask this... It the royal rumble a match? Because Sd! vs Raw 08 says it does!

 

[Scott Free]

God Damn man?
Do you even know what happens when someone becomes a "hall of famer"?
The sell they're wwf/wwe name to vince for a small pay check... possibly more then one...
Most wrestlers don't want to sell their name to wwe...
Thats why we have pete rose and koko beware in the hof!

The hof was a really bad idea... cause of vince being a greedy baboon!

I think you must realize that most wrestlers that work for the WWE already have their name owned by the WWE, or to be more specific, their gimmick's name. The WWE cannot own a legal name under a TM, but they can own a TM on a gimmick name, Doink The Clown is but one example. Christian was able to use his name in TNA because, well, that's his name, he could not use the Captain Charisma tag though, and he even added Cage to differentiate his persona in TNA from his WWE one. Going into the HOF only means the WWE buys rights to use your name in their HOF, they don't own it, it's a license of sort.

 

[JGlass]

This is a pretty entertaining thread, and a lot of the same names are popping up. One thing I want to say is while I don't think any of the celebrities deserve to be in the hall (including Mr. T), Pete Rose definitely deserves it more than anyone else (except Mr. T). The man got his ass kicked by Kane... three times, and wore a chicken suit. The humility the WWE put him through makes him a little more eligible than Donald Trump.

I think some of the in this thread are being dropped because they didn't have stellar WWE careers, like Koko B. Ware, but the great thing about the hall is that it's not just for how their WWE/WWF/WWWF careers played out. I mean, I'm not sure if there's anyone in there who didn't wrestle AT ALL with WWE at one point, but there are plenty of people who didn't have lengthy careers there but had great one's in other federations.

and...

I love it when these kids have opinions! they're so unfounded. And without any research!
Every single person that people have been naming off has worked for wwf/wwe and has put on an entertaining show....
Pete rose does steroids... so he can't be in the baseball HOF... To bad...

For someone who's going to patronize the forum for having unfounded opinions, you should really do some research. Pete Rose can't be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame because he gambled on baseball while playing for the Reds. There is no evidence that the man ever used steroids.