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Just took a look at WWE videos, and the Roman Reigns Brock Lesnar sit down interview has over a million views.

So, when WWE talks about the ratings bump, and the network breaking the 1 million dollar plateau following the Rumble and Monday Night Raw - I think Reigns vs Lesnar plays a big part in that.

You really think people aren't excited about Reigns vs Lesnar? I wonder if it'll get more mainstream pub than Rock Cena. I can comfortably say I expect it to be a better match than any of the two they put on.

I'm trying not to get ahead of myself but if there were no network, I believe this would do the most buys since the attitude era. I can't wait to see this build unfold. Monday Night was a great start. Heyman is a savant.

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To be REALLY honest with you, I'm hoping for a double turn, Paul Heyman double cross. The way the interview went, with Paul lauding the history of the Samoan culture in professional wrestling, knowing Roman's family, knowing Roman since childhood, etc., it almost seems like they are building towards having Heyman flip over on Brock, and switch over to the new future of WWE.

Either way, this main event is going to be good. Brock just got done making John Cena look like Jobber A from a house show in 1991. They have to make Roman look tough enough to compete with Brock, and I think that if done correctly, it will work.

But Stone Cold had some solid criticisms on his podcasts this week about Roman. Number 1, if Roman is going to get this push, he owes it to the company and to the fans to work harder in the ring. Not that he isn't good, but he takes several little sleep breaks when he shouldn't need to. But these are small complaints.
 
Just took a look at WWE videos, and the Roman Reigns Brock Lesnar sit down interview has over a million views.

Dull day?

So, when WWE talks about the ratings bump, and the network breaking the 1 million dollar plateau following the Rumble and Monday Night Raw - I think Reigns vs Lesnar plays a big part in that.

You know that the 1 million included people who have come and gone and even the folks who signed up for the free month of November?

You really think people aren't excited about Reigns vs Lesnar?

Some are. Most are not excited. They may get there if WWE does a good job building it. So far so good, but we will see.

I wonder if it'll get more mainstream pub than Rock Cena.

It won't. The Rock is a big Hollywood movie star and Cena is the biggest full time name in the business. However, Lesnar will get mainstream press where it matters. His name will get in front of male mouth breeders who like sports and may be intrigued by his rumored departure from the business with or without the WWE title.

Reigns is an afterthought in the mainstream press.

I can comfortably say I expect it to be a better match than any of the two they put on.

Really reaching on that prediction, aren't we?

I'm trying not to get ahead of myself but if there were no network, I believe this would do the most buys since the attitude era.

I'm pretty sure there have been PPV Manias that have done better than anything in AE but you can look it up yourself.

I can't wait to see this build unfold. Monday Night was a great start. Heyman is a savant.

That's nice. What are you looking to discuss in this thread? YouTube views?
 
It's now cool to boo the crap of Reigns. WWE has no choice but to have Heyman do the double turn on Brock and be the voice of the monster heel Reigns.
 
^^ sorry I forgot wrestlezone doesn't like Roman Reigns.- I don't know why I expected people to share my excitement.

If you don't want to discuss metrics and numbers then don't bother entering the thread pal.

Lesnar and Heyman's interview with Cole has a little over 200,000 views. Roman's interview with Cole has a little over 300,000.

The sit down with the two of them has over a million. There's intrigue for seeing the TWO of them, not just Brock Lesnar. Not just Brock Lesnar vs anyone but Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns. Two big guys.

Reigns isn't a mainstream household name, not just yet and you probably don't respect him. But you will.

And yeah I'm going to say I expect Reigns Lesnar to be better than any of the Rock Cena matches, call it a gut feeling. I think this is going to be a high impact, hard hitting match. Brock Lesnar as a wrestler and how he's been built as indestructable is more intriguing than the build between Cena and Rock. Apples to Oranges comparison, yes, but I'm more intrigued by Reigns trying to defeat the beast incarnate Brock Lesnar than Cena and Rock's battle of the generations matchup. Rock and Hogan was the better battle of the icons.

As for buyrates, without the network, I would put money down that it would enter this top ten list of all-time grossing manias. I'm kinda of surprised how many of them aren't from the attitude era.

http://www.therichest.com/sports/wrestling/top-10-most-bought-wrestlemania-ppvs-of-all-time/10/

Anyway, I'm excited and anyone that isn't just doesn't have to enter this thread.
 
Oh wow, people who didnt see RAW because of blizzard wanted to see confrontation of single biggest match they prepare at Mania. What a shocker. :rolleyes:

Its Mania so it probably wont flock, but raising it up to Heavens wont help it either. Especially since youtube counts arent exactly showing anything. Plus they can be fixed. ;)
 
the youtube number is so much larger than of their other videos though, My God people geez I saw something that stood out to me. The cynicism here is exceptionally high.

I'd consider that the snow storm maybe had an effect on the numbers if RAW hadn't posted it's highest rating in months and a higher rating than usual.
 
^^ sorry I forgot wrestlezone doesn't like Roman Reigns.- I don't know why I expected people to share my excitement.

Wrestlezone is not a person but there are a lot of members here that were disappointed by the Rumble match, both the execution and result.

If you don't want to discuss metrics and numbers then don't bother entering the thread pal.

So you want to talk numbers. Gotcha.

Lesnar and Heyman's interview with Cole has a little over 200,000 views. Roman's interview with Cole has a little over 300,000.

The sit down with the two of them has over a million. There's intrigue for seeing the TWO of them, not just Brock Lesnar. Not just Brock Lesnar vs anyone but Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns. Two big guys.

Intrigue is a nice sign but intrigue does not equal dollars. I'm really not a YouTube views expert. How does this interview compare to Rebecca Black, that Korean guy, or Japanese lesbian spit kissing views?

Reigns isn't a mainstream household name, not just yet and you probably don't respect him. But you will.

Did you write promos for TNA during 2012?

I respect Reigns but he hasn't done anything in his career that makes me think he belongs in a ring for the title at this Mania against Lesnar.

And yeah I'm going to say I expect Reigns Lesnar to be better than any of the Rock Cena matches, call it a gut feeling.

That isn't much of a goal. The first match was good and had some great moments. The second match was borderline boring and had maybe one good moment.

I think this is going to be a high impact, hard hitting match.

Of course, is anyone expecting chain wrestling or lots of high spots?

Brock Lesnar as a wrestler and how he's been built as indestructable

He did "break a rib" and get to rest for about 10 minutes in his last match. They have built Lesnar to be strong and dominate but indestructible is pushing it.

is more intriguing than the build between Cena and Rock.

The Rock/Cena build was a big letdown. It was bipolar and they barely touched each other. But they didn't have to. Fans naturally choose sides and wanted to see The Rock compete again. It sold despite being a shitty build. Lesnar/Reigns needs more work but they have the luxury of a Sting match, Daniel Bryan, John Cena, and most importantly the fact that you can watch the whole show for $50 less.

Apples to Oranges comparison, yes, but I'm more intrigued by Reigns trying to defeat the beast incarnate Brock Lesnar than Cena and Rock's battle of the generations matchup. Rock and Hogan was the better battle of the icons.

Despite Hogan being a cripple, I think you are right about this.

As for buyrates, without the network, I would put money down that it would enter this top ten list of all-time grossing manias.

That isn't saying much. WM was a cash cow prior to the Network and despite the high price. The last few years were some of WWE's highest. Anything worse than fifth would be a monstrous letdown.


Being wrong a lot happens to a lot of people.

Anyway, I'm excited and anyone that isn't just doesn't have to enter this thread.

Thanks guy who has never said anything negative on the internet before.
 
Every time someone brings up numbers, I laugh a bit. 1 million views on YouTube? Did anyone give credit to Bryan, Orton or Batista when Wrestlemania 30 reached a million homes last year?

You want to use numbers as the yardstick for draw on YouTube?
 
Reigns isn't a mainstream household name, not just yet and you probably don't respect him. But you will.

I respect Roman Reigns, I respect how hard he's worked in the handful of years he's been involved in wrestling. He just hasn't displayed that he brings a whole helluva lot to the table in this match. He's green, he's inexperienced, he isn't all that good at cutting promos, he's fair to decent inside the ring and nothing's been done with Reigns by WWE to suggest he's remotely ready. As I've said in other threads, it's not really Reigns' fault that Vince McMahon chose him for a spot that he's not really prepared for. Plus, fans are frustrated with the WWE CEO trying to tell them who they should or shouldn't put their interest in. Reigns just happens to be the poor guy caught in the crossfire.

As for buyrates, without the network, I would put money down that it would enter this top ten list of all-time grossing manias. I'm kinda of surprised how many of them aren't from the attitude era.

If the ppv buys for WrestleMania equals 500,000, it'll be a good number. However, with the Network in play, no way the ppv buys come anywhere close to a million. As far as the Attitude Era goes, it doesn't really surprise me. The Attitude Era had shock & awe on its side and Vince certainly allowed wrestlers a far greater degree of freedom than he lets them have now. In terms of actual overall wrestling, however, I think the modern era has far better in-ring action.

http://www.therichest.com/sports/wrestling/top-10-most-bought-wrestlemania-ppvs-of-all-time/10/

Anyway, I'm excited and anyone that isn't just doesn't have to enter this thread.

If you're not prepared for vehement disagreements with your opinion on something, a pro wrestling thread is the wrong place to be. It's just how it is. I'm hoping you're right, however, that the match is better than we're expected. I honestly do hope Roman Reigns is able to prove people wrong. Most people's expectations are based on what we've seen thus far, so I can't blame anyone for having serious doubts. Neither Reigns or Lesnar is particularly skilled at leading a match, Reigns doesn't have the experience while Lesnar just simply doesn't have the ability as we saw during his match with The Undertaker last year.

The problem is that Roman Reigns has an uphill battle on his hands and it's one he has little chance of winning in such a short span of time. Unless he progresses by a massive degree within the next 6 weeks as a character and inside the ring, most people will be expecting a lackluster match. As I alluded to earlier, what's happening with Roman Reigns isn't as much a condemnation of Reigns as a talent as it is Vince McMahon's increasingly out of touch booking decisions. A LOT of fans are tired of Vince trying to lead fans to who they should support because a lot of Vince's support is based on a wrestler's look more so than his ability. Over the past several weeks, Reigns' promos have had a very strong similarity to those that John Cena cuts when he's in a corny, joke telling mind set, Vince had Reigns spouting out catchphrases from Looney Toons characters after all. This loss of the edgy aspects of Reigns' persona coupled with him having a strong look and his work on the mic gives people the impression that Vince McMahon wants to create another John Cena. In 2015, a LOT of fans don't want another nigh unbeatable superhero that Vince won't allow to evolve.

Reigns has a great look, no doubt, but there are wrestlers on the roster with a far greater connection with fans, far stronger inside the ring, have far greater experience and who have paid a lot of dues that Reigns' hasn't. Many fans are frustrated because they can see all these things, other members of the WWE locker room can see them, dirt sheet writers can see them, legends like Stone Cold Steve Austin can see them and with all that they see Roman Reigns as essentially being forced onto them without being ready and because Vince wants the fans to like him because he believes he's the right choice. Now I agree that Vince can't just cater to the every whims of fans, but there are very, very few instances in which it seems that such a huge majority of WWE fans are united in what they want and this is one of them. We saw it last year with fans wanting Daniel Bryan in the WM main event, we're seeing it now with fans wanting Bryan in the main event and Roman Reigns not in the main event. This isn't just a few handfuls of internet smarks complaining or the small & devoted following of some "indie guy", which means the only real reason for Vince not actually listening, despite what he claims, is that he doesn't want to and feels that he knows better than everyone else.
 
Well I'm not going to throw the OP under the bus like the other posters have thus far, mainly because I share his excitement for the Reigns/Lesnar match, but I see no reason to think it will get more mainstream exposure than Rock/Cena, and most importantly, I wouldn't hang my hat on the amount of YouTube views the video received.
Having said all that, I am excited for the match as well.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing this match at mania it will be brutal fans are gonna shit all over it and spoil it for those who want to see it
 

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