Ray and Brooke: How 10 Seconds Produce Hours Of Speculation

[ABMorales787]

Things seemed normal enough. Austin Aries was on the phone complaining to someone with the stolen TNA World title with him. Well, normal in wrestling. As he goes by a corner, the camera catches of all people, Bully Ray and Brooke Hogan arguing about something. They stop the moment Aries goes by with awkward looks in their eyes as Aries looks on in bewilderment. He eventually just shrugs and moves on unconcerned. Though Brooke and Ray stay with that awkward look. As if they didn't want to be seen together. *nudge, nudge*

 

[voiceofsire]

It was live and im not sure if they where suppose to be there. It could have been a mistake on there part. But then again it could be something interesting.

 

[Olan]

Didn't Bully say he made a promise to your father,meaning Hulk? I thought he was talking about keeping Brooke safe and I was expecting something to happen to her but then that didn't happen. Not sure

 

[UltimateHitman]

Not sure what it entails, but it might just be another way to stretch Aces & Eights out even further.

I also have the sinking feeling in my gut that they are going to take all the momentum of Bully Ray's successful face turn and ruin it by making him a leader of Aces & Eights with his "brother".

That will suck, because I'm enjoying the Bully as a face for some reason. He brings a little bit of an edge to it that's kind of been lacking or falling short from others for quite some time.

Let's just hope they're not going to do a Vince vs. Stephanie with Hulk and Brooke. Ugh.

 

[Lowdown]

Not sure what it entails, but it might just be another way to stretch Aces & Eights out even further.

I also have the sinking feeling in my gut that they are going to take all the momentum of Bully Ray's successful face turn and ruin it by making him a leader of Aces & Eights with his "brother".

That will suck, because I'm enjoying the Bully as a face for some reason. He brings a little bit of an edge to it that's kind of been lacking or falling short from others for quite some time.

Let's just hope they're not going to do a Vince vs. Stephanie with Hulk and Brooke. Ugh.

I was thinking the same thing. Not wanting to get my hopes up, but I doubt it was just a mistake by the camera crew. I really don't want Brooke to end up being at the helm of A&8's. Bully I could see being a factor, but I can't picture how he would be introduced into the faction.

 

[HBsam31]

Not sure what it entails, but it might just be another way to stretch Aces & Eights out even further.

I also have the sinking feeling in my gut that they are going to take all the momentum of Bully Ray's successful face turn and ruin it by making him a leader of Aces & Eights with his "brother".

That will suck, because I'm enjoying the Bully as a face for some reason. He brings a little bit of an edge to it that's kind of been lacking or falling short from others for quite some time.

Let's just hope they're not going to do a Vince vs. Stephanie with Hulk and Brooke. Ugh.

This was my big fear to. I really think if Bully is involved with Aces and Eights it would take all his momentum away. He would be just a guy in that group. he has done a lot to become the best heel around, and now that he is face I am enjoying him just as much. Something like he and Brook being the masterminds would not do it for me at all. I am hoping it was just Bully saying he would protect Brooke from them and that is it.

 

[SpecialFNK]

did I see that right? successful face turn for BULLY? seriously? TNA killed him by making him a face. he was the best heel in TNA. making him a face should not have happened. how do you have a face "bully"? when was the last time he said, do you know who I am?
he could have remained on side of TNA while still being the bad ass Bully.

I would love to still see Bully turn on TNA and become part of Aces/Eights. he would fit well there.

I don't think seeing Bully and Brooke together was an accident. Bully said something like but I promised your father (Hulk). but I wonder what Brooke was wanting him to do.

 

[UltimateHitman]

did I see that right? successful face turn for BULLY? seriously? TNA killed him by making him a face. he was the best heel in TNA. making him a face should not have happened. how do you have a face "bully"? when was the last time he said, do you know who I am?
he could have remained on side of TNA while still being the bad ass Bully.

I would love to still see Bully turn on TNA and become part of Aces/Eights. he would fit well there.

I don't think seeing Bully and Brooke together was an accident. Bully said something like but I promised your father (Hulk). but I wonder what Brooke was wanting him to do.

Yes, he was a good heel. Just like others in the past, a heel that is so good the crowd starts enjoying him too much and cheers him (see: Austin Aries, Undertaker, Steve Austin, et. al.)

He is good as a face. He's still got that in your face, fighting spirit that he had as a heel. He goes around saying he's going to kick your ass and bring the fight right to you. He's still got that same level of energy and bad ass-ery, just without pushing women and little guys around. He's now "bullying" the bad guys, so to speak.

Yes, Bully in Aces and Eights would be terrible. It would be too predictable, put him as just one face in a crowd, and begin his "Ken Anderson" evolution of flip flopping back and forth so much you don't know what the f*ck he is anymore.

 

[Dagger Dias]

This cannot possibly be anything good. It's bad enough that they made one of their best heels into a face, but now he may be entering an angle with BROOKE HOGAN!? Things like this are why people constantly bash TNA. I like them a lot as a federation and have enjoyed their product for the better part of the past decade. With that being said, I'm disgusted by the fact that they have Brooke involved in ANY way shape or form. She has no talent whatsoever and is only there due to having a father who is a legend among legends in wrestling. I'm rather disappointed and unfortunately cannot offer anything but negative speculation on this topic.

Whatever angle may be planned between Brooke and Ray, I hope that TNA cancel it immediately before we end up with something like Claire Lynch again. Bully Ray deserves better. No one deserves to have to work an angle with Brooke. NO ONE. Not even Eric Young, who my intense dislike for isn't exactly a secret around these parts. I fear that this will be both terrible in quality and incredibly annoying, just because Brooke herself is involved. I don't care what Ray may have promised Hulk within kayfabe in this angle. I truly don't. TNA needs to end this before it goes any further, and while we're on the topic they need to remove Brooke as an onscreen character as well. If she wants to work with TNA in some format due to having grown up around the business with her dad and legitimately wanting to help, that's fine, but she has no talent and I don't want TNA to waste their fans' time by having her involved in angles that could just as easily go to Knockouts like Madison or Tara who actually HAVE talent.

 

[candy girl]

@ dagger dias....... why not wait and see what's the deal on the storyline first before de-nouncing it as trash, as far as your comments about brooke being un-talented having the job because of her daddy, and her being involved in storylines that she shouldn't be involved in, is ridiculous, and down right ignorant and stupid to say the lease, every thing you mention about her can be said about vickie guerrero too but you don't see me criticising wwe for them allowing her to have the position she has on raw.

 

[ABMorales787]

This cannot possibly be anything good. It's bad enough that they made one of their best heels into a face, but now he may be entering an angle with BROOKE HOGAN!? Things like this are why people constantly bash TNA. I like them a lot as a federation and have enjoyed their product for the better part of the past decade. With that being said, I'm disgusted by the fact that they have Brooke involved in ANY way shape or form. She has no talent whatsoever and is only there due to having a father who is a legend among legends in wrestling. I'm rather disappointed and unfortunately cannot offer anything but negative speculation on this topic.

Stop and think, will you dude? First of all, Ray is a babyface by popularity. He's still the same jerk we know. He's the same as Orton or CM Punk was last year. As for Brooke, she's no Garret Bischoff. Reason enough to think there's something positive to her. She's not on TV all the time. Thrirdly, how the hell could you think Bully Ray carrying around Hulk Hogan's daughter as personal eye candy isn't worth speculation?

Whatever angle may be planned between Brooke and Ray, I hope that TNA cancel it immediately before we end up with something like Claire Lynch again.

I'm afraid you're too late. Tune in to Raw.

Bully Ray deserves better. No one deserves to have to work an angle with Brooke. NO ONE. Not even Eric Young, who my intense dislike for isn't exactly a secret around these parts. I fear that this will be both terrible in quality and incredibly annoying, just because Brooke herself is involved. I don't care what Ray may have promised Hulk within kayfabe in this angle. I truly don't. TNA needs to end this before it goes any further, and while we're on the topic they need to remove Brooke as an onscreen character as well. If she wants to work with TNA in some format due to having grown up around the business with her dad and legitimately wanting to help, that's fine, but she has no talent and I don't want TNA to waste their fans' time by having her involved in angles that could just as easily go to Knockouts like Madison or Tara who actually HAVE talent.

Wow is that bold part an oxymoron or what. Come on. Just what business would any other female have hanging around with Bully Ray? You're jumping the gun. Badly. Any reason not to have Bully Ray walk around with Hogan's daughter to finally get his approval?

 

[Dagger Dias]

Stop and think, will you dude? First of all, Ray is a babyface by popularity. He's still the same jerk we know. He's the same as Orton or CM Punk was last year. As for Brooke, she's no Garret Bischoff. Reason enough to think there's something positive to her. She's not on TV all the time. Thrirdly, how the hell could you think Bully Ray carrying around Hulk Hogan's daughter as personal eye candy isn't worth speculation?

Bully Ray portraying a face persona just doesn't seem to fit right to me. Popular or not. Heels can be popular and remain heels if the marks think they do a great job and the casual fans have reason to hate them. Bully Ray being a heel and still being "the same jerk we love to hate" doesn't work the way that Orton and Punk did when they turned. Countless fans prefer Orton's Legend Killer days to his face persona. Punk may still be similar to how he was when he turned due to popularity, but it worked for him. I see Ray ending up more like Orton. He can't be the true form of Bully Ray and be a face, much like how Orton couldn't be The Legend Killer and be a face.

Brooke may not be forced on the fans the way they tried to with Garrett Bischoff, but as much as he sucks he still has some minimal talent in what he does. I cannot stand Brooke and detest the fact that she has achieved what she has in her "career". If her last name was not Hogan then I guarantee you she would never have gotten anywhere as an "actress" or a "singer", let alone an onscreen wrestling personality. I placed the titles in quotes for a reason. She's unattractive, annoying, and most important of all.... untalented. Ray being seen with her isn't worth speculation, at least not to me. Mainly because I don't want her onscreen at all. Ever. Any attempt she makes at doing anything onscreen is a waste of everyone's time. If they wanted to run an angle where a child of Hogan's was involved they could just as easily have hired someone to play a different daughter who exists within kayfabe. That way the angle can still happen if they insist on running it, and without Brooke's involvement.

I'm afraid you're too late. Tune in to Raw.

Sounds like you're admitting that it will in fact be as cringe-worthy as Claire Lynch. I watch Raw regardless, and it will take more than Brooke working this angle to get me to walk away from my TNA fandom after I have watched them for almost a decade. Now if she won the Knockouts Championship I might begin considering walking away. Even then, I could just boycott Knockout matches until she loses the belt.

Wow is that bold part an oxymoron or what. Come on. Just what business would any other female have hanging around with Bully Ray? You're jumping the gun. Badly. Any reason not to have Bully Ray walk around with Hogan's daughter to finally get his approval?

There could be any number of reasons for why the other ladies might be interacting with Bully Ray. They might need protection from Aces & Eights, being the one that makes the most sense. As for reasons to not have Bully Ray walk around with Hogan's daughter to get his approval? He should have remained a heel and not given a crap about his approval ratings. Then he'd just want to kick others' asses and enjoy doing so. If he needed to work with Hogan's daughter in a storyline it's not like they couldn't make up another daughter and hire someone else to portray her. TNA have run strange angles in the past, they can get away with it. It comes down to my dislike of Brooke and the fact that it's unfair of them to waste their fans' time due to her having the last name that she does. I'll try to give it a chance to see what happens, but the moment it gets stupid (which seems likely at this point) I might decide to just sit this one out. There's plenty of other angles going on.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

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I shall dub Dagger the King of Hyperbole. You detest what she has done in her career? I never seen her act and I've heard one of her songs a long time ago. Is she a critically acclaimed actress or musician? I don't think she is so why would you detest her? Seems like someone's horse is a tad too high. I have no problem what she does in TNA since she doesn't do much. She's only on screen for like two or three minutes a episode so I have no problem with it, but I'm not surprised you do.

I'll side with Killjoy on this one. Brooke maybe is just the key for Bully Ray to finally get Hogan's approval. I certainly won't go to the ridiculous levels you have. I shudder to think if you were Brooke Hogan's high school guidance counselor. You probably would advise her to changer her last name.

 

[Cereal Killer]

I haven't got a clue what was going on but there but I am not looking forward to this. It's could turn out to be another AJ Styles and Claire Lynch or just a simple/ridiculous Madison Rayne and Earl Hebner story-line. Hopefully they've picked up from the mistakes though.

I disagree with the fellow that said it could have been a mistake, I'm sure they would have known and the camera man would have told them.

 

[SpecialFNK]

this is an angle, and not a mistake.
I would like to give TNA a chance with this and see where it goes, but I'm not holding my breathe.
I don't really get it at this time though. Bully has been going through a change in the last few weeks, becoming more of a face. so now just as he is becoming face, he is put in an angle where he is romantically involved with the bosses daughter? it would be better if Bully was still a heel and Hulk wasn't going to approve. not that hulk would approve of a face Bully anyway, but this just seem like a face move.
and an angle where Brooke is romantically involved with Bubba Ray? he's not what I would expect to be her type at all.

 

[Tesla Tank]

Brooke Hogan is a sight for sore eyes (ears?) after being subjected to Karen Jarrett for as long as we were.

As for this angle, they're both faces, and I think they'll remain that way. But it's really too early to speculate where it's going. Perhaps it's just another reason for Hogan not to trust the Bully.

 

[Danger Burger]

Wait, is this discussion about some passing glance rather than the Tara and whoever walking on on the two of the on the couch??

Seems something's up, and its not just bully (wahey) I have no problem with it anyway, first time in a while me and my housemates all jumped and went "WHOAH!!!" in a long while!! Lets see where it goes from here, cause I have no clue!!