Raw 11/19/12 LD- One Year Later...

[Awesome_Miz]

None of them mean as much as what Orton's accomplished. That same Kane was soon defeated by Austin and Taker and still lost the World title a mere 24 hours after cheaply winning it. Orton would beat Kane, just like he has the multitude of times before.

Has Kane ever beat Rock, Taker, Stone Cold, HH, or HBK?

 

[a7xoff]

This LD has devolved into a Orton/Kane debate lol. I wasn't watching WWE back when Kane debuted so I have no real opinion on the matter as I started watching literally the episode of Raw where Kane was demasked.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Orton dethroned Cena. Yeah you can try making the Cena's no Austin comparison but for the time period that's the biggest thing you can do, and that reign was more than 24 hours and he actually pinned Cena and didn't just bust him open.

Three weeks isn't anything to brag about, homie.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

Has Kane ever beat Rock, Taker, Stone Cold, HH, or HBK?

1.) Interference
2.) Heavy interference
3.) Heavy interference
4.) Clean but not to the degree Orton has.
5.) Maybe at some point but once again not to degree Orton has.

 

[Awesome_Miz]

1.) Interference
2.) Heavy interference
3.) Heavy interference
4.) Clean but not to the degree Orton has.
5.) Maybe at some point but once again not to degree Orton has.

Like a heel Orton hasn't had interference. Even with interference Orton could beat Cena in an 1 hour anything goes match.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

Three weeks isn't anything to brag about, homie.

True but it's still more than twenty four hours.

 

[BaconBits]

I heard that Austin, Orton, Cena and Kane all huff each others farts during business dinners while Vickie eats everybody's leftovers.






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[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

Like a heel Orton hasn't had interference. Even with interference Orton could beat Cena in an 1 hour anything goes match.

The gist of it is that Kane has had some big wins but to say Orton can't beat him is ridiculous.

 

[Bernkastel]

1.) Interference
2.) Heavy interference
3.) Heavy interference
4.) Clean but not to the degree Orton has.
5.) Maybe at some point but once again not to degree Orton has.

Actually Kane beat the Undertaker in three straight PPV's and with the World title on the line. Orton got his ass handed to him nearly every time he faced Taker at a major show.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

Actually Kane beat the Undertaker in three straight PPV's and with the World title on the line. Orton got his ass handed to him nearly every time he faced Taker at a major show.

Yes I know, Night of Champions was I believe the only clean win he got on him and apparently that was an injured taker. HIAC Bearer screwed Taker and at Bragging Rights it took Kane, Bearer and all of Nexus to bury the deadman.

 

[BaconBits]

Good lord Vickie sucks at life.




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[Awesome_Miz]

The gist of it is that Kane has had some big wins but to say Orton can't beat him is ridiculous.

Actually Kane beat the Undertaker in three straight PPV's and with the World title on the line. Orton got his ass handed to him nearly every time he faced Taker at a major show.

That has to end the argument. If you can't beat Taker someone who few can beat him like Kane then you can't beat Kane.

 

[a7xoff]

I'm still curious if Cena's ankle is legit injured or not.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

That has to end the argument. If you can't beat Taker someone who few can beat him like Kane then you can't beat Kane.

Yes I know, Night of Champions was I believe the only clean win he got on him and apparently that was an injured taker. HIAC Bearer screwed Taker and at Bragging Rights it took Kane, Bearer and all of Nexus to bury the deadman.

.

 

[Tattooed Jesus]

I'm still curious if Cena's ankle is legit injured or not.

Me too. Since they were wrapping his knee though I doubt it's serious, might just be something they work into the story lines though.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

1.) Interference
2.) Heavy interference
3.) Heavy interference
4.) Clean but not to the degree Orton has.
5.) Maybe at some point but once again not to degree Orton has.

About that last one.

You mean when Vince had to basically ban Sweet Chin Music?

 

[The Brain]

So the Wrestlezone tournament is in April. Kane and Orton will be two of 128. I say save this discussion for the tournament on the off chance they meet up.

 

[a7xoff]

Me too. Since they were wrapping his knee though I doubt it's serious, might just be something they work into the story lines though.

If it turns out to be part of the storyline then he did a damn good job selling that when he was running. Hopefully it's just part of the show. As much as I hate to say it, WWE can't afford for Cena to keep going out on injury right now.

 

[Awesome_Miz]

So the Wrestlezone tournament is in April. Kane and Orton will be two of 128. I say save this discussion for the tournament on the off chance they meet up.

It's better that we do that.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

About that last one.

You mean when Vince had to basically ban Sweet Chin Music?

I forgot they had that SS 2007 match, but that's not the match(es) I'm referring too. He's beaten him in 2003, 04, 06, 07, and maybe 08 but I forget.

 

[Tattooed Jesus]

I am totally over AJ and her shit.

Ziggler and Cena though that shit could be epic!! Ziggler was whipping his ass!!

 

[a7xoff]

Ziggler pwns Cena all night tonight huh? Ziggler for WHC!

 

[Bernkastel]

Cena and Ziggler going at it? Ridiculous.

 

[a7xoff]

It's nice to see Cena and Ziggler probably going at it finally at TLC, but why is Ryback still going after Punk it's going to wind up being another screwjob for the 3rd straight PPV lol

 

[smizzy]

Hell yeah. Heath Slater sighting. Dude is a riot. Cracks me up every time I see him.