Randy Orton: Your NEW World Heavyweight Champion

[Big Nick Dudley]

But lets be honest he wouldn't have won the title if Edge had not retired. Vince for whatever reason just doesn't think he is world champion material.

You are definitely entitled to your opinion, but this is an assumption, and nothing more.

Sure, in the past, Vince hasn't shown a great deal of confidence in Christian. However, Christian became involved in the Edge/Del Rio feud long before Edge knew he had to retire, so that says something about Vince/Christian.

Pure speculation on my part, but I believe Christian was on his way to the main event prior to Edge making that decision. I think it's quite possible we would have seen a Christian heel, followed by a Christian/Edge feud over the summer. As I said earlier about your post, it's an assumption, and nothing more. But I think the signs were there, and I would be shocked to find out Christian was on the path to burial before Edge decided to retire.

It looks like Christian might turn heel which could be very interesting. I could see him start blaming the fans for picking Orton as his opponent.

This is what I see happening, sort of. This, combined with Christian basically losing his mind over losing so quickly. It seemed to have an impact on him, mentally, while leaving the ring. I hope this carries over into Christian not only turning heel, but being the biggest heel on Smackdown.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Orton sucks as a babyface at this point in his career. He's not yet at the stage where he's automatically a babyface because of all he has accomplished (i.e. Edge).

Christian is an underdog, and everyone loves a good underdog story. I don't mind that they put the title on Orton, because in all honesty, I hate the move. I really don't like Orton with the title, particularly as some kind of babyface/tweener. He has the charisma of an owl, and does nothing to really get the crowd on his side. But if they have Christian chasing Orton for the strap...now that's a storyline that will intrigue me. If they have someone else jump in the scene...well, I won't be paying much attention to Smackdown.

 

[Smooth Sexual Chocolate]

If there's even an ounce of truth to the reports that have been coming out today don't expect Christian to regain the title from Orton....Ever.

I'm not one to believe everything I read, but when I continue to read the same thing over and over again, coming from multiple source's it's hard not to believe it. As unfortunate as it is, Christian will probably slowly fade away, back into the mid card, where he will become just another forgotten member of the Smackdown roster.

Now, I hope this isn't true, I really do. I'd love to by into Jack Hammers theory, and there's a part of me that still does, but that part of me is fan and doesn't take the logic of the situation into account.

We are entering the Randy Orton era of Smackdown, and lets face it, there's really not a whole lot of competition for him on Smackdown, and I wouldn't be all to surprised if we're in for a Super Cena type of run here from Orton. After all, he's finally been take out of Cena's Shadow and he's been heavily built up over the last couple years. Logically speaking, there's just no reason to put he belt back on christian, at least not from a creative standpoint. Do we really expect the WWE to give christian a proper build and invest the time and money into having him be the one to take the belt off Orton, I just don't see it, and as much as I'd like it to happen, it's been made clear, on multiple occasions that the powers to be just don't really give a shit about Christian.

I'll be hoping for the best, but expecting the worst in this scenario.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

I thought the match was flat like most of Orton's matches tbh

I know people will cite that Orton "gets the loudest pops" until their fingers and/or faces turn blue as a reason he should be on top of the card, but the guy has never translated into ratings, drawing power or PPV buyrates. You can bring up how Cena has been "holding him back," but he has be at the top of the card on RAW four or five times now and has bombed. I am not expecting much from that end of him being the top SD guy.

As far as his role.. The guy sucks in the ring against most people. He isn't compelling on the sell and is as sympathetic as a fucking canned tuna fish. I really do think part of the reason he has managed to say "monstrously over" is because they really limited how much air time he got on Raw. He didn't cut promos weekly and often didn't even get 10 minutes of literally being on TV.


But the scary part is that he will probably facing heels and get more than 20 minutes of air time weekly.

 

[mudvayne1221]

First of all, for the most part anyone that leaves WWE to go to a different wrestling promotion and then comes back, does not get handed main event status in Vince Mcmahon's eyes. With maybe the exception of Jeff Hardy, and look how that turned out for him. Christian is not a main eventer. Outside of tag team wrestling, I can not think of any amazing feuds or matches that Christian has had. Him chasing the belt from Orton could be the move to help get him there. Vince Does not see anything in Christian, his win, as I believe this site said, was a win bcause Vince thought it was going to be a good moment with Edge, and he got that.
One person said, Orton is the only main eventer on Smackdown, so him having the belt does nothing for the show with no one for him to feud with. Idiot. Orton being the main guy on Smackdown, is going to help elevate some of the younger guys on Smackdown to main even status. Christian cannot elevate someone to main event status, when he isnt!
Someone else said, they thought it was ridiculous that Orton was ok with winning the belt, he should have said no. Another- how would you feel if you busted your ass at yur job for years, someone came in and took the promotion and beter pay you were waiting for? First of all Orton busts his ass, second would you really say no??????

 

[nerd4life]

i hate christian think hes boring but to give him the title after so long and have him drop the following smackdown is a slap in the face.

He deserved at least a month or 2!

 

[steven87gill]

The problem for Randy Orton (long term) is that it's this kind of booking that slowly built up fan resentment against John Cena during 2005.

Randy Orton at the moment is over with the older, as well as the younger fans of WWE, so it would be a shame if WWE threw that away.

 

[LFC till i die]

I am absolutely disgusted that Vince didn't give Christian a lengthy title run. After everything he does for the company. Yea maybe he isnt a huge draw like Cena or HHH but he still works his arse off and deserves good things (like a lengthly title run!). I am a HUGE fan of Randy's but i was not happy with him winning the title.

What a fu"#ing joke. SMH...

 

[FightOwensFight]

What I meant to say is that if you're going to prove someone is a draw with the title, you can't judge that after 3 days. Orton has held more titles, Orton probably has more fans, and Orton has been in the main-event picture for a much longer time, that's probably why he'd get cheered more than Christian.
Think of it like this, if they just threw the belt on Morrison do you think he'd automatically get bigger pops than Orton? I doubt it, because it'd take TIME for the fans to warm up to everything.

I'm not bashing your post by any means, you brought up a good point that I failed to elaborate on, so I'm just elaborating now

I see your point, and don't think you were bashing me in any way. I guess my point is, that if there was this rabid fan-base waiting for Christian to win the title, when he finally came out with it on Smackdown! the roof should have come off the place. We have had a number of ME title winners that "finally" got their shot (Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Benoit [I think I said a bad word ], HBK) and all of them had a much stronger reaction upon winning the belt.

 

[dude_d_dude]

I see your point, and don't think you were bashing me in any way. I guess my point is, that if there was this rabid fan-base waiting for Christian to win the title, when he finally came out with it on Smackdown! the roof should have come off the place. We have had a number of ME title winners that "finally" got their shot (Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Benoit [I think I said a bad word ], HBK) and all of them had a much stronger reaction upon winning the belt.

You make sense, but if you saw how the fans reacted when Christian DID win the title, they DID get pretty loud.
Maybe they got a little tired of cheering so loud I don't know LOL
I mean the news was all over the place right maybe they just got tired of cheering so loud.
Oh and whoever said Orton has the charisma of an owl made me LOL

 

[TheNewStyle]

Randy Orton is my favorite superstar but he absolutely doesn't need the title at this moment. I really hope Christian wins his rematch at Over the Limit cause he deserves to have a lengthy enough reign with the championship. Then he should keep it until SummerSlam or Survivor Series before dropping it to Randy Orton (who's the top face of Smackdown!). The only good thing out of this move is that at least Christian can retire as a former World Heavyweight Champion even if he never regains it, which I hope isn't true.

 

[Alliance316]

Okay 3 things I have to get off my chest here

1. Yes christian deserved a much longer reign as champion but he lost the belt in a MOTYC and probably the best tv match since miz vs morrison ..he wasn't squashed in 6 or 7 mins

2. People seem to be blaming orton asif he demanded the belt or asif he is the booker of the wwe ! Open your eyes people he just basically gets told what will be happening

3. Randy Orton is the best in ring wrestler in the wwe today ..he is more than capable of carrying a feud with christian so I am excited to see how this goes

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

2. People seem to be blaming orton asif he demanded the belt or asif he is the booker of the wwe ! Open your eyes people he just basically gets told what will be happening


Aliiance316, maybe so but he could have said hey lets wait a couple of weeks or wait until next ppv. Dude its not the fact that Orton is champion, its the fact that Christian only held the championship for 2 days. He has been waiting 17years to be a world champion in WWE, they finally give it to him but it only lasted for 2 days. How is that fair? Even in TNA they don't pull crap like this, and its the company with Russo (a man people blame for what is wrong in wrestling). So i guess Russo isn't so bad .

 

[El Rev sXe]

here's the deal man about Christian, IMO what the WWE did was spit in his face. Do you imagine how the fuck can you feel when you finally win the big one after 17 YEARS only to be told "btw Christian, on the next edition of SD! you are going to lose that title, exactly, in your first and only defense". I understand completely that Orton is a huge draw, the top guy in SD! and the second guy behind Cena. HOWEVER why the WWE couldn't wait a month or two in order to Christian to win the title? Why? If Swagger could had a title reign of almost three months, why can't Christian have one? Jack Swagger is a draw?! Pfff please. We have seen many many times transitional champions, we all knew that Christian was going to be one, but so short? I honestly see it as an insult towards Christian. Now I have to see what are the plans the E have with him for the near future. But I sincerely doubt that VKM is going to let him become a top dog. How could that affect SD?

 

[mudvayne1221]

2. People seem to be blaming orton asif he demanded the belt or asif he is the booker of the wwe ! Open your eyes people he just basically gets told what will be happening


Aliiance316, maybe so but he could have said hey lets wait a couple of weeks or wait until next ppv. Dude its not the fact that Orton is champion, its the fact that Christian only held the championship for 2 days. He has been waiting 17years to be a world champion in WWE, they finally give it to him but it only lasted for 2 days. How is that fair? Even in TNA they don't pull crap like this, and its the company with Russo (a man people blame for what is wrong in wrestling). So i guess Russo isn't so bad .

Really? Really? So if you boss said to you, "hey were gonna give you a promotion, give you more money and its gonna start in a couple weeks" you would say no? i think not.
as well tna hasnt pulled anything like this? tna had people pay for a ppv less than 3 months ago, in which the main event featured a man coming out, on drugs mos likely meth, and then have a 2 minute title match.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

The Rev sXe, forget it most people don't understand. I guess the fact that Christian did the moves he did at extreme rules, putting his body on the line for 17 years is just our imagination. If i was Christian, i would have said a big f*ck you to WWE and left.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Really? Really? So if you boss said to you, "hey were gonna give you a promotion, give you more money and its gonna start in a couple weeks" you would say no? i think not.
as well tna hasnt pulled anything like this? tna had people pay for a ppv less than 3 months ago, in which the main event featured a man coming out, on drugs mos likely meth, and then have a 2 minute title match.

Really? Really? So if you boss said to you, "hey were gonna give you a promotion, give you more money and its gonna start in a couple weeks" you would say no? i think not.


A 2 day promotion Yippee!!!!

As for what happened at Victory Road, look yes Jeff Hardy was off his head but thats Jeff Hardy's fault not TNA. Russo didn't say "take drugs before the Main-Event Jeff it will rock". Could they have prevented this for happening ? Hell yeah, but it was still Jeff Hardy's decision to f*ck up his life.

 

[Vincent Michaels]

Really? Really? So if you boss said to you, "hey were gonna give you a promotion, give you more money and its gonna start in a couple weeks" you would say no? i think not.


A 2 day promotion Yippee!!!!

You say this like Christian will be jobbing on Superstars next week to Tyson Kidd or something. It's not like his reign in The Main Event Scene is over and lasted only 2 days. He'll get his shot again soon, possibly go heel, and might even win it again. I would damn sure take that kind of promotion.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

One possibility is turning Christian heel. While this might work this leaves a void that Smackdown! lacks faces. With a Christian heel turn we have Orton, Daniel Bryan, Kane, and Sin Cara as the only top faces; with Orton as the only sustainable Face among them.

I can see two ways Christian can be World Champion again
1.) Christian turns heel but have Sheamus turn face; I think Sheamus has the Goldberg like tools to turn face.

2.) Build up Christian again giving him meaningful feuds maybe by WM28 time we will get an Orton vs. Christian rematch since, seriously, I can't picture Orton vs. Sheamus, Orton vs. Daniel Bryan, or Orton vs. Barrett as WM World Title matches (at this point at least).

 

[mudvayne1221]

Really? Really? So if you boss said to you, "hey were gonna give you a promotion, give you more money and its gonna start in a couple weeks" you would say no? i think not.


A 2 day promotion Yippee!!!!

As for what happened at Victory Road, look yes Jeff Hardy was off his head but thats Jeff Hardy's fault not TNA. Russo didn't say "take drugs before the Main-Event Jeff it will rock". Could they have prevented this for happening ? Hell yeah, but it was still Jeff Hardy's decision to f*ck up his life.

Actually smart ass, it was more than a 2 day promotion. You really think at the start of smackdown vince made that decision? It was probably planned for at least 2 weeks.
And yes it was Jeff Hardy's decision to take drugs. Guess whose decision it was to let him go out there? Hmmmm tna managements! and o whose decision was it to not allow someone else to go out there so they could have a main event? Im sure there was a pelethera (large amount) of wrestlers backstage who would have jumped on the oppertunuty, but no tna management decided a 2 minute main event was much more worth everyones spent money

 

[ipswichicon80]

Apparently the office was "shocked" At the backlash from Christian losing the title to randy Orton.It just goes to show how out of touch they are!I bought the PPV on the basis Christian would be winning the belt.That's right.Christian sold the ppv to me!And then you took my fifteen pounds wiped your ass with it and put the belt on Orton??So we now have Cena and Orton on top?The same as it's been for the past five years?Is this hunters new direction?The same guy's on top as it's been forever!If Jack Swagger was my corner man he would have thrown in the towel by now

 

[Thriller30]

Randy Orton defeated Christian and Sheamus in a Triple Threat match to retain the World Hvt. Championship. Christian got a decent pop, but Orton got pop of the night, hands down. Christian and Orton did a mild stare down mid-match. They hit a suplex/powerbomb combo off the top. They hit a series of their main spots for most of the match. At 10:00 sharp, Orton nailed the RKO on Sheamus for the win. Post match, Christian and Orton stared each other and shook hands. Orton shook hands with fans ringside and up the aisle as the show concluded.

It seems as if they are building a Christian-Orton feud, instead of a quick bury. I'm interested to see the feud build.

 

[Notorious718]

Well I'll admit that I was pissed when I heard about this but when I watched the match, I took great comfort in the fact that Christian looked STRONG even in defeat. I wish his first world title reign would've been a lot longer though but what can you do? I want to see Christian win back the title at some point down the line and not get pushed back down to midcard purgatory. Hopefully he'll be a main event mainstay because he damn well deserves it.

As far as Orton's reign is concerned, I'll admit that I wasn't surprised and I'm not exactly looking forward to it. I never found Orton's title reigns or Orton himself recently to be particularly interesting. I'm guessing he's gonna go over his opponents continuously for the next few months. It saddens me every time I see Orton go over my favorites. First Punk, now Christian. Well, what can you do?