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Randy Orton: Your NEW World Heavyweight Champion

I am so happy not to have christian as champ any more. As much as I hate Orton I would much rather see him with the belt then Christian,
At least some people in the wwe, feel the same way I do about him that he isn't a main event talent and has no reason to hold the belt long term =)

:wtf:Are you insane? Christian deserved the belt, there is no ifs and buts about it. How would you feel, if it took you 17 freaking years to have a world title in WWE, got it finally after taking so many bumps for them and then being screwed over 2 days 2 freaking days later? If i was Christian i would say f*ck you Vince and leave. Vince has definitly lost it.:banghead:
 
It's absolute bullshit. If the argument is that they don't think he can draw, why take it from him before he has a chance to put on a single match? There were huge cheers and lots of Christian signs at SD in addition to the massive support he had at the PPV. I understand that Orton is a big name, a moneymaker, and has just been drafted to that show, but does he need to win the WHC in his second appearance on the show, less than a week after Christian won it?

I agree here, I don't buy this simply as a "business decision". The argument he can't draw seems contradictory with the pops and reaction he gets from the crowd especially after winning the World Title. I just think Vince just doesn't like Christian plain and simple ... probably still remembers Christian's first promo in TNA Imact.

Or yeah never know maybe they do have big plans for Christian to be a top heel. The closing segment does suggest the program between Orton and Christian is far from over.
 
not insane, really wanted to see del rio leave with the belt, since I am not a fan of christian at all, so i was just happy to have him lose the belt, no matter who he lost it to.
 
not insane, really wanted to see del rio leave with the belt, since I am not a fan of christian at all, so i was just happy to have him lose the belt, no matter who he lost it to.

Yeah right because having two world titles on 1 show is good.:rolleyes: Del rio is on Raw, so there was no way he could /should have been champion at Extreme Rules.
 
You know, call us fanboys, call us smarks, call us whatever you want. We can smell bullshit when we see it.
And this my friends, is a steaming, stinking pile of Grade A bullshit.

Proving someone is a draw takes weeks/months to prove, trying to force someone to draw in 2 days is asking them to fail, it can't be done.
Like some people already said, Vince just doesn't like Christian plain and simple, even IF Christian could draw, he'd probably still give the belt to Orton for other reasons, like being a reliable champ or some other BS story. If you read the article here on WZ you'll even see it supposedly wasn't "a well deserved win" for Christian anyways. When you work 17 years and it's still not well deserved, you know you're disliked.

Face it friends, we very well may have seen the last of Captain Charisma's title reigns, even if he sticks around in the main-event, I doubt he'll have a credible reign as champ anytime soon. And he's like 37-38 already, Vince will can his ass for the younger guys anyways. SuperOrton is about to lift off whether we like it or not.

All in all, f**k you Vince Mcmahon for thinking only about the business side of things. Yes it's a business, yes you're the owner, yes you want to make money, but f**k you for completely disregarding the hard work and trials of a guy who put in years upon years into this business, and f**k you for letting down all of Christian's fans who actually thought you were rewarding someone for a change.

ARGH
 
I heard from this same site that Orton had beaten Christian for the belt. I didn't watch much of SD. I saw him come out and give his speech and get emotional about talking to Edge and working for 17 years up to this point and then the four players come out. WHy Henry and Khali came out as big time main eventers is absolutely beyond me. Then came out Orton. I thought, why not make it interesting and have DelRio come out and make it a five way dance. Thankfully, they just made it a one on Christian vs. Orton. And Orton won that match.

I personally hated this decision. Christian wins the title at the PPV, they could have at least let him defend it at the next one just to give him the pleasure of walking into a PPV as champ. See how he does, see if you're wrong about his ability to draw. He's done everything he's been asked, he's been with you for a while, this is one shot, just see if he can deliver. SO TNA can give him a run while he's there for what a few years, but WWE who he's been with for 10 - 15 can't give him a reign for even a month ? I don't know why they hate Christian. He can work in the ring, he is solid on the mike, he does have a fanbase, all he needs is a decent storyline with a few good feuds and he might be some one who surprises you. If there is any idea that WWE has no respect for Christian as a performer, nothing says it like this. If I were him, I would feel like a complete fool for coming back and probably would rather eat shit than re-sign. I mean don't give him the title at all, if you're going to pull this stunt on him. I'm really pissed off about this call.
 
If there is any idea that WWE has no respect for Christian as a performer, nothing says it like this. If I were him, I would feel like a complete fool for coming back and probably would rather eat shit than re-sign. I mean don't give him the title at all, if you're going to pull this stunt on him. I'm really pissed off about this call.

See, that's exactly what I'm thinking.
If you really hate a guy, don't just shun him, lure him in with a world title, then snatch it away from him. Let him taste his glory and then rob him of it instantly so that he might think he'll get another shot.

He never will.

It's a business, there's going to be favourites, there's going to be those who will never be liked or succeed. I'm sorry Christian, you're one of those unlucky people.
You've given us a lot, Vince doesn't care, sorry bro, that's just the way it goes sometimes.

Meh, you could always see if Vince had a younger daughter he never told anyone about....
 
Wow. I never thought that the WWE had much faith in Christian, and I was surprised they put the belt on him, but I thought they'd at least give him a month with the belt, rather then have Randy come on over and say "thanks for holding that for me".

Christian's in the Matt Hardy role, folks. He's just not the kind of wrestler who works well as the focal point for a company, but he is absolutely fantastic at getting people over and keeping people interested in his character. (WWE Matt Hardy, not TNA Matt Hardy. Think the feud with MVP.) I really hope Christian gets at least a blowoff match at the next PPV- it's late to start a build for someone else for a WHC match, but then again, you don't have to have a WHC match.

Don't think this will make Christian a regular world title contender, however. Randy Orton is firmly the #1 face on Smackdown. Christian is, for now, the #2 face. Here's what happens over the next year- Randy Orton defends the belt against either Sheamus, Wade Barrett, or Kane. One of them defeats him. A three-month program commences in which a couple of multi-man matches take place, teasing an alternate champion (like Christian), but eventually resulting in Randy recovering his title.

Christian will be spending time working programs with people the WWE is putting high stock in right now, like Alex Riley and Brodus Clay. He will participate in the odd WHC multi-man match, and will probably hold the US title for a bit so he can drop it to a guy who needs the win over an established name. (Hi, Alex Riley!) The only way he holds the WHC again is when Randy Orton separates his shoulder for the 23rd time, and that's only if the WWE decides that Sheamus/Barrett/Kane wouldn't be better options to hold it than Christian (who would be a better fit as a contender for the title in that scenario, as a credible but defeatable threat to the champion.)

Christian got his moment. He can say he was a world champion in the WWE. Save it on your TiVo, because that's likely the only way you'll see it again.
 
You know, call us fanboys, call us smarks, call us whatever you want. We can smell bullshit when we see it.
And this my friends, is a steaming, stinking pile of Grade A bullshit.

Proving someone is a draw takes weeks/months to prove, trying to force someone to draw in 2 days is asking them to fail, it can't be done.
Like some people already said, Vince just doesn't like Christian plain and simple, even IF Christian could draw, he'd probably still give the belt to Orton for other reasons, like being a reliable champ or some other BS story. If you read the article here on WZ you'll even see it supposedly wasn't "a well deserved win" for Christian anyways. When you work 17 years and it's still not well deserved, you know you're disliked.

Face it friends, we very well may have seen the last of Captain Charisma's title reigns, even if he sticks around in the main-event, I doubt he'll have a credible reign as champ anytime soon. And he's like 37-38 already, Vince will can his ass for the younger guys anyways. SuperOrton is about to lift off whether we like it or not.

All in all, f**k you Vince Mcmahon for thinking only about the business side of things. Yes it's a business, yes you're the owner, yes you want to make money, but f**k you for completely disregarding the hard work and trials of a guy who put in years upon years into this business, and f**k you for letting down all of Christian's fans who actually thought you were rewarding someone for a change.

ARGH

Couldn't agree with you more. I think the match and how entertaining it was is just a big tease. If you believe WZ's sources, which I do, then Christian won't be getting another title reign because there is a lack of faith and disdain for him behind closed doors.

There are so many things wrong with what happened. Going by the info provided, Christian won because of Edge - both in story line and in real life. Yes, even the biggest Christian marks knew there was going to be some truth to this regardless of how long the reign it was going to be, but the WWE has really highlighted this point. Cole wouldn't shut up about Edge at Extreme Rules, WWE.com's article said Christian won because of Edge, SmackDown's opening promo again focused on Christian needing Edge. This to me just says that the WWE wants to make sure everyone understands that, in other words they want everyone to know it was a fluke. Of course I don't think this is fair. Jay Reso has worked his ass of for 17 years in order to be champion. He cuts great promos, is well over with the fans - especially the money supplying demographic. He has all the makings of a world champion. Is that to say he's the equivalent of Cena or Orton right now, i.e. someone who can main event Mania? No, not at all. But come on. Guys Khali, Mysterio, Swagger and Kane all had decent WHC title runs on SmackDown... And Christian can't?

As for losing to Orton, I take no offense in it. We all knew the moment that Orton was drafted to SmackDown that Cena would be back on Raw and Orton would run the Friday night show. However, I am upset with how quickly it happened. Orton did not need the title immediately. Even if you believe in every fiber of your being that Christian cannot carry SD! and shouldn't be champion, why couldn't this have waited until Over The Limit? Heck, they could've made it a Fatal Four Way with Christian, Orton, Henry and Khali where Orton wins. But, no. It couldn't wait. In order to put Orton on a pedestal ASAP and bring in the age of SUPERORTON, they had to screw over Christian immediately and make him look like a fool - only exaggerating what is now viewed as a "fluke" title reign.

Maybe the most upsetting thing about this ordeal the past several days is the reported "surprise" the WWE had at the outcry of Christian losing the title so quickly. It has been floated around the intertron that the WWE seriously didn't see such backlash coming. To quote the Miz,

"Really?... Really?"

You've been building Christian up since he returned at Elimination Chamber, having him win several big matches. Edge retires, only giving Christian a bigger push by the fans. He finally gets his WHC shot and does manage to win. He celebrates on of the most emotional title victories over the past several years in the WWE with his lifelong best friend... And loses two days later. You're "surprised" that fans have out-cried online by blowing up your Facebook and Twitter accounts? Wow. Sure Christian's following has inflated due to Edge over the past month, but he still has a following. In fact, I'd say most Edge and general fans were pushing Christian so hard not just as a compliment to Edge but because they truly wanted Christian to fill the void he left. Given the pops he's gotten recently, that, on surface, seemed to be a real possibility. Unfortunately, no concentration of Christian haters is higher in the WWE Universe than in Creative Management's board room.

Sadly, I do think this comes back to Christian leaving for TNA. I simply don't buy this stuff about Christian not having a following and such. He isn't a glorified mid-carder. He's an underrated main-eventer and has been for some time. I honestly do believe the WWE, Vince, Creative Management etc holds a grudge against Jay Reso. Allowing Christian to be a world champion is like giving credit to TNA to them. Keep Christian down is their way of saying that TNA's Christian Cage was no world champion. I only hope that the outcry of support Christian is getting changes that. And by change, I mean truly gives him a title reign. The WWE may turn him heel just so Orton can have someone to feud with and beat into the earth (a la Punk), but that's about it. Plus, the fact that Christian should go heel is such a load of crap. Orton is a heel. Even as a face, he's still basically a heel. He's still the same monotonic douche he was as a heel and still punts people in the head when he gets mad. Not that it matters since the business plan for him is the exact same as Cena's on Raw (SUPERORTON). So Christian will be the one who turns heel, trashes the fans, gets fed to Orton for a couple months before finally going back to the mid-card hell the WWE has condemned him to.

Hate to say it, but it might be time for Christian Cage to come back.
 
I think that this move just speaks of how much confidence the WWE has in Christian. Some of you might be thinking that this is a way to build Christian up but the way in which Christian has been treated throughout his career does not exactly infuse me with confidence. I might have been a bit more confident if Orton had won the title as a heel. Everything suggests to me that Orton is going to have a dominant reign on Smackdown and Christian is going back to the upper midcard.

I think that Christian would feud with Cody Rhodes next and that would be an awesome feud. I wouldn't be surprised if Randy's next challenge is Mark Henry. I also feel that Jinder Mahal will be blooded into the main event sooner rather than later. Big guys and evil foreigners have always been more important to the industry than a solid, rounded, haardworking wrestler like Christian.
 
This is just terrible, it`s one thing to have faith in the guy but not even a week? Surely WWE had to see the reaction on sunday, that was a very special moment and now we see this is just some kind of joke run? That is just a shame...truth is Christian was never give the chance as a champion and they are ignoring that him winning on Sunday was one of the rare special moments wwe could still give...they are in total disconnection with their fan base. I get the want to build the show around Orton, I like Orton but right now I don`t give a rat ass about Orton and this certainly does not make me want to watch Smack Down in the near future. It is a failure on so many levels.
 
I think this decision is beginning to a bigger and better program.

If they just wanted the belt off Christian and didn't want to do anything more with him, they could have waited till Over the limit, and then Randy could beat him and I'm sure no one would and could have any problem with that.

This title change obviously shows that WWE had programs that with Edge retiring are no longer possible. The word on the street before WM and without considering Edge's retiring was that Christian is gonna turn heel on Edge and then they'd have a main event feud on SD and then probably Christian would win the belt. But Edge retired and ADR went to raw without the belt, Miz stayed on Raw and Randy got sent to SD and they had to put belt on Christian as a face. This even gave Christian the opportunity to have his glory moment a memorable one because he was face and he could celebrate it with Edge, instead of turning on him and then winning the belt with no triumph.

So I think Christian is gonna turn Heel, which obviously seems to be a better future for him. i even can claim that he may regain title way sooner than people think, even at Over The Limit, or before SummerSlam.

And even if that doesn't happen, and Christian unfortunately goes back to midcard immediately, which I'm 99 percent sure won't happen, I think still at end of the day, winning WHC in a ladder match and getting the chance to celebrate it with Edge in a historic moment is much better than not wining it at all, which before last Sunday was a big possibility.


Side note : To All who think Chirstian is gonna start a new feud, Are you aware of the interesting rule in wrestling, The rematch clause?

Side note 2 : WWE actually has given us two PPV worthy World title matches on Raw and SD in same week, that is a Wow.
 
It's ridiculous, that's how I feel about this. And people, don't just try to get yourselves to feel better by saying:

"oh hey, nah, its just the start of something bigger, he'll become a heel then feud with Orton."

That shouldnt make any Christian supporter feel better, why?! because after what happened to Punk, what do you people think will happen to a heel Christian who is less valued by the WWE? He'll get buried so far he wont look like a threat; he'll look like a joke.
 
I'll start by saying my favourite wrestler is Randy Orton and that I am happy whenever he is Champion...however I do feel that Christian has been extremely hard done by. He should have thought Orton on SD! and defended his title. Then Orton would have his respect but win the No1 contenders match to face Christian at OTL. Orton says how badly he wants the title but that he has respect for Christian and will fight fair to win it back.
Then at the PPV Christian wins again by this time hold the rope to win. Orton gets pissed and gets a rematch at the next event and wins.

That's how I'd have booked it. Christian deserved a month to two months at least as Champ either as a face or heel.
 
I think a lot of the criticism here is short-sighted. First, to dude_d_dude. you say it takes weeks/months to see if someone can draw and then point out that Christian has been around for 17 years? That is a lot of weeks/months. Face facts, the pop Christian got when he came out was much smaller than that Orton got from the same fans. Sure there were lots of "Christian, Christian" chants while he was alone in the ring, but that is standard fare.

As some others have said, I think/hope this leads to a Christian-Orton feud with Christian turning heel. He has always wrestled for his "peeps" and what do they do? Cheer maniacally to have Orton, a 7-Time champ, face him "5 days" after he wins the belt. He can easily use that and turn on the fans and go heel and just snap after having the belt for so short a time. Hell, to spice it up even more have him start attacking people over the next few weeks only to have Edge come out to confront his best friend, only to be laid out by Christian.

Either way this plays out, I don't expect Christian to have any long reigns, but I could certainly see him getting it back to just lose it again.
 
Surely the crowd reaction and massive pops he gets indicate he can draw. It's short sighted of the WWE to not see that.

This is a post by someone called Kent Ward on Lagana's blog
I was there last night as well. As Lagana stated, it was a fantastic match and everyone should watch it. If you support great wrestling, it shouldn’t matter who wins as long as a great match is had, right?

Andrea is correct in stating how the crowd favored the two wrestlers. During the match and after the match were telling. Even though Orton was heavily favored by the fans from the moment he came out, as the match went on and Christian countered several of Orton’s top moves, more of the crowd got behind him.

Christian also got an amazing ovation after the match. (Even though Orton shit on that by coming back out and reminding everyone that his name is Randy Orton and he is the champion.)

It was a really close match and it seemed like Christian could win at one point. People complain about the RKO out of nowhere, but that is part of the “viper” gimmick.

Lagana brought up an amazing point with supporting Christian through merchandise sales. Money does talk in the WWE. There’s a reason Zack Ryder pimps his shirt out at the end of each of his YouTube shows.

I did want Christian to win. I think it would have made him a start and I doubt one loss would affect Orton. As a matter of fact, it would help him. It would show that getting the title is not that easy.

Having Christian lose the title to Orton so quickly devalues Christian, Orton, the WHC, and Smackdown and here’s why:

1.) Making Orton the centerpiece of your brand is fine, but having him get the greatest accomplishment of the brand on day 1,without any trials to overcome, is poor fucking storytelling. Unless the story is about Christian’s redemption to gain the title back… on his own. Then we have a fantastic beginning. (If the writing team that smart.)

Why should anyone even watch Smackdown at this point if the “hero” of the show has already won? Where does he go from here? With Christian, we could see him as a fighting champ for the first time. We already saw this with Orton enough.

2.) If Christian won, the crowd would accept him more as a champion. There was a time when Orton wasn’t hot shit and someone had to put him over to get there. One loss for Orton wouldn’t affect his merchandise sales or his popularity. HBK, Rock, and Austin lost for crying out loud just to prove that point. Randy would win the WHC down the road anyways, restoring any unlikely lost value to his character.

3.) If Christian was accepted more as a champion, his merchandise would sell more! If Orton’s didn’t go down and Christian’s went up, doesn’t WWE make more money!?

4.) Orton winning is predictable. If Christian beat him on SD, a lot of people wouldn’t expect that. There would be a rematch of course at a PPV and people would be more likely to pay to see because now they know the match can go either way. You know, more money for WWE!

5.) The buildup to make Christian look like a star and champion leading into Extreme Rules is deflated. If Vince wanted to create a magic moment at the PPV, doesn’t this actually destroy that?

6.) Having the title drop so quickly makes it seem more like a storyline prop than anything else. This has happened multiple times in WWE and other promotions that may or may not still exist, but that doesn’t make it right.

And here’s the last point: while Randy is talented in the ring(more so than the sheepish cult that is the IWC is willing to give him credit for), Christian beats him in workrate and on the mic. He doesn’t need to squash people with a punt to the head to get over. If the writers can’t figure out how to make Christian a main eventer, then there is something certainly wrong. at WWE Creative.

I’m not pissed that Christian lost. I feel like unless this is a redemption story for Christian, WWE has blown a good feud and a long-term money making opportunity, screwing the fans and themselves at the same time. And that is why I am made.

Here what I would do if I was a writer and had to get things right on track.

Next week, Orton’s in the ring. Tells the audience that he walked right in and beat Smackdown’s best to become champion after being immediately drafted over. He lets the crowd know that he’s going to be champion for a while because Smackdown doesn’t have anyone on their roster who could pose a threat to his reign. (Since he was an asshole at the end of the show last night, he will build on that next week and onward in this feud.)

Christian’s music plays, he comes out with a stern expression on his face as he walks to the ring. He then faces Orton in the ring, eye to eye. For that moment, there are no words, just the stare down to build tension. Randy Orton asks Christian what he is doing here, that he beat Christian in the middle of the ring last week, and that Christian has no further business with him.

Christian says that title was his and that it was his dream to have it. He waited so long to get it and once he did, it was gone in an instant.

Orton cuts him off and reminds Christian who the title belongs to now and that Christian had no business having it in the first place. He tells Christian that he was in the right place at the right time and now that his best friend Edge is gone, he has nobody to protect him.

He says something along the lines of. “You’ve waited all this time and now you have nothing to show for it.”

This realization turns Christian’s stern expression into face of doubt.

Orton continues, “Edge never waited for the title. He created opportunities and did everything that was necessary to become a champion. He knew that waiting would get him nowhere and calculated his every move and manipulated so many people to become champion. But he’s not here anymore; Smackdown now belongs to Randy Orton, the new ultimate opportunist.”

This causes Christian to snap and unexpectedly deck Orton. After beating Orton down and hitting him with the Killswitch, Christian grabs the mic and looks down on Orton. He tells Orton that he’s learned a lot about what it takes to be a champion from Edge, but even more so from last week’s defeat.

He tells Orton that he could have won last week and SHOULD have won and now he’s going to for sure because now that he’s had a taste of the title, he wants it even more and he’s not going to wait around for the next chance. Instead he’s going to take it. Christian’s music plays and he leave the ring with a face of determination to take back the title while Orton is still laid out in the ring.

This sets up a high profile match at Over the Limit that people would pay to see. Your welcome, WWE.

This guy should be working for the WWE
 
Surely the crowd reaction and massive pops he gets indicate he can draw. It's short sighted of the WWE to not see that.

This guy should be working for the WWE

Yeah him and half the jack boys on this board... :icon_neutral:


The only direction this can really head is Christian turning heel. Vince doesn't really like face on face fueds, so I just can't see that happening.


I really do think the WWE is going somewhere good with this, I think we can leave the writing to the writers and the blogging to your buddy there.
 
Well, it happened.

Keep all your rage in here, folks.

Personally I'm not happy with the move but I really think that this is building up to Christian getting the title back at a later date, on his own merits instead of because of Edge. The ending definitely built Christian up as sympathetic, and it would be a bad move to not capitalize on that after all the video packages, promos, and even a segment with The Rock. To top it off, it was a very competitive match and Christian definitely looked like he belonged in the main event. I really hope that he stays there since he's earned it and is talented enough to be there.

Well, I am disappointed that Christian's title reign was so short. I haven't always been the biggest Christian fan, but when he was pushed in TNA I began to follow him more closely. When I found out that he was returning to WWE a few years back I was jacked because I really had started to see him as a guy that could carry a show.

I still believe thatn Christian could carry Smackdown, or at least be one of their top players. DDP, I hope you are right ^^^. Maybe now he comes back and at some point captures the title w/out all of the nostalgic Edge references.

Mostly, I hope this doesn't affect Christian's confidence. It is a honor to be WHC, no matter how short the reign. I really believe that he will get another reign.
 
First of all, the match between these two last night was superb. It was an amazing contest, and it was one of the better Smackdown main events I've seen. As far as this title change goes, I already read the spoilers, so I knew this was coming. I saw it, and I still couldn't believe it. I thought Christian would make it to Over The Limit as WHC, but things didn't go that way. Smackdown is Orton's show now. He is the man on the blue brand, and it was only a matter of time before he got near the big gold belt.

There's a chance this quick loss could go somewhere. Christian did look distraught and lost after he was defeated by Orton last night. Christian could go on a journey to try and recapture the WHC, and there's a chance he could win it back. Christian should stay in the World Title hunt for quite some time, because he can still compete at a high level, and he has shown he is worthy of being in the main event scene.

As far as Orton being champion goes, I don't how to feel about it just yet. He just won the gold, so I can't judge how good or bad his reign will be. I'll have to wait a little bit longer. Although, Orton is pretty over with the fans, he's been pushed as one of WWE's top guys over the years, and he is the man on Smackdown, so he will be a main event player for a long time.
 
I know a lot of people are upset that the title changed hands so quickly, but you're forgetting, this is WWE. They love to throw curveballs at as all the time, and it's been a good while since we've seen one like this. I think Orton looks better with the world heavy weight championship anyways, it just seems bigger and more adapted to his shoulder compared to the WWE championship.

The fan's choice thing made the whole match seem kind of forced in though. They could have easily just scheduled the match to be Orton vs Christian, but instead they decided to throw in one, a guy that has been buried in the mid card for the last two years, and two, a man who recently turned heel. Obviously they're going to go pick Orton. The match itself was really good though, if they're going to have the title change hands, a good ppv length match was the perfect main event. Now a days it isn't often that we get see a match like that. Now all they need to do is get that going on Raw and we could see some way better shows and feuds.

I'm interested to see how Orton's status will be now that he's the new champion. Will he turn heel, and feud with the face Christian, will he stick with the tweener character, and maybe play both sides, or will he be a full out face. I'm kinda hoping to see Orton stick with his semi-tweener character, and then have Christian turn heel. This way we have the two top characters on the brand feuding over the world title, and it gives the fans something to get excited about.
 
My first feeling after seeing this happen was I felt bad for Christian. After all the build up and all the pomp and circumstance of him finally winning the big one, he lost it the next time he got in the ring. I compare it to Sting back in the day when he first beat Ric Flair for the title only to lose it a couple of days later. I don't know where they are going with this, but I hope they keep Christian as one of the main eventers. He has become a worthy guy and a big part of the company and I think he deserves it. I wouldn't be surprised of a heel turn by either of the two. I actually hope it's Orton because the WWE already has one face to overcome the odds.
 
I think a lot of the criticism here is short-sighted. First, to dude_d_dude. you say it takes weeks/months to see if someone can draw and then point out that Christian has been around for 17 years? That is a lot of weeks/months. Face facts, the pop Christian got when he came out was much smaller than that Orton got from the same fans. Sure there were lots of "Christian, Christian" chants while he was alone in the ring, but that is standard fare.

What I meant to say is that if you're going to prove someone is a draw with the title, you can't judge that after 3 days. Orton has held more titles, Orton probably has more fans, and Orton has been in the main-event picture for a much longer time, that's probably why he'd get cheered more than Christian.
Think of it like this, if they just threw the belt on Morrison do you think he'd automatically get bigger pops than Orton? I doubt it, because it'd take TIME for the fans to warm up to everything.

I'm not bashing your post by any means, you brought up a good point that I failed to elaborate on, so I'm just elaborating now :)
 
Also Christian already had huge pops as a face to begin with and with that WWE Creative still feels he's not a main eventer or, at least, deserving to hold the World Title for a couple of months.

However Randy Orton's post-evolution face run resulted nothing but a dead audience yet he's still been kept as a legit main event player through that period working with Triple H, Undertaker, Ric Flair, and Kurt Angle.

Between the Christian of now and The Face Orton of 2004, gauging it based on that I'd say it's wager my chances on Christian.
 
Christian fans, seriously, just relax. This isn't over yet. Or maybe it is? Point being, no one knows what's going to happen.

Next Friday, Christian could book his rematch, and pin Orton 1-2-3 (not likely, but possible).

They could wait until Over the Limit, where Christian turns heel, completely, and wins back the belt. Or maybe he doesn't win the belt, but the heel turn is complete. Then, these two proceed to feud over the summer, with a big showdown at Summerslam.

Tons of possibilites. I think a lot of you are rushing to judgement. I'm not saying there's really anything wrong with that, you're fans, do what you want. But, this isn't over yet. If it is over, and this is the last we see of Christian in the main event, I'll support this crusade. But, that needs to play out, and this "travesty" happened yesterday.
 
First off that was a great match. One of the better tv matches I've seen in a long time. Crowd was really into it too. Its a shame Smackdown is not live, how crazy would that have been if it was live.

I'm happy that Christian had his moment at Extreme Rules. But lets be honest he wouldn't have won the title if Edge had not retired. Vince for whatever reason just doesn't think he is world champion material.

It looks like Christian might turn heel which could be very interesting. I could see him start blaming the fans for picking Orton as his opponent.
 

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