wrestling = repetitive Brick Walls.
Not really though, is it. Unless you're in some really fucked up match.
1st hand knowledge is better. 2nd hand knowledge is better then no knowledge, especially when you consider where the knowledge is coming from (not the posters, but like what I said, which was from people with first hand knowledge like Jericho, Storm, Foley, and even JR).
I agree. People deeply involved in the business are good sources. However, internet articles written by people who haven't lived it are less so. That doesn't mean they aren't totally invalid, I would just trust Jericho or Foley more.
1. The bolded sentence is wrong. DEAD wrong. Lets replace the names you listed with Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Test, Big Bossman, and about 50 other 90/00's wrestlers who passed prematurely due to drugs. And Foley is hardly an outdated name, he's a 90's wrestling star. 80's stars ended up druggies or dead. 90's stars are the same. It's still too early to generalize the 00's, but a bunch of them have died, including in the worst possible fashion (Benoit).
I would class the wrestlers you named as old wrestlers. Benoit, Guerreo and Big Bossman wrestled mainly in the 80s and 90s. That 90s Kid is 16 and only considering wrestling. It will be totally different for him.
3. I don't know how financially stable being a pro wrestler in Britain is. In the US, if you're not in WWE or TNA (MAYBE a top ROH guy with a bunch of indy bookings) you likely aren't going to be all that well off. Britain doesn't have any real global companies like the US, so the WWE/TNA level of success likely is a pipedream.
British wrestler are for the most part, part-time. Only the top guys do it professionally. For that reason, I believed that That 90s Kid was talking about doing it part-time.
I wasn't comparing them. What the fuck are you talking about?
What I was saying is that you don't have to have firsthand knowledge of running into a brick wall to know it will hurt, and I don't have to be a wrestler for 20 years to know what kind of a lifestyle they lead. And to say otherwise is just stupid.
On reflection, you weren't comparing them, and I was wrong to say you were. But you were applying the same principle to them. Sure, you don't have to run into a brick wall to know it will hurt. But you do have to run into a brick wall to know what it will hurt
like. Same goes with wrestling, to understand what it is truly like you have to do it.
What I put in bold is precisely the kind of thing I dislike. You act like your opinion (and it is just your opinion) is fact. It is really infuriating.
That's just stupid. Part of my theory exists upon the testimony of the guys who HAVE done it for years. And they say it's a hard life. I look at all the evidence, and wrestling is just a stupid profession.
It doesn't mean I'm not glad people do it, but it's a foolish profession to get into.
I'm not going to deny what people involved with wrestling say as they know more about it than me. And you, for that matter.
Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Lance Cade, Andrew "Test" Martin, etc. would all disagree.
Like I said to Stormtrooper, Benoit and Guerreo are old wrestlers. Cade and Test, I can't argue with that. And I don't know enough to know if they are the exception rather than the rule, or vice versa. If That 90s Kid was going to be a wrestler, it would be totally different for him.
The only thing that's changed has been the WWE. And since the chances of actually working long-term in the WWE are incredibly long, then you really don't have a point. And even in the WWE, painkiller addiction exists hardcore.
The only thing that has changed is the WWE? How about society? Or legislation with regards drugs and the like? Even someone who doesn't follow wrestling has probably heard of the Benoit incident. Public attitudes have changed wrestling in some way and companies such as WWE have responded with things such as the wellness policy. The wellness policy is a reason why I think your comment about painkillers is a bit odd. Painkiller addiction is why Joey Mercury was released. However, my mind would be changed if I saw some real evidence of it.
The wrestling of old meant guys were on the road 340 days a year, working 7 or 8 matches a week, with never enough time to rest their ailing bodies and never knowing where their next paycheck would come.
The wrestling of old is no different now than it was then.
I was talking about ring work, not the business. More traditional wrestling, less gimmick or hardcore matches which take more of a toll on someone's body than regular, straight-up wrestling.
No, let's not, because I'm right. Everything I said about wrestling is completely true. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. So there should be no disagreement.
Well, those four sentences embody the attitude that all of your posts have. "I'm right and you're wrong. I can't possibly be wrong because
I'm right. Fact." Which (and I'm sure you don't need me to tell you this) is just fucking stupid. Judging from your posts, I can see you have an overwhelming desire to always be right and have the last word. I'm not sure why.
I'm not going to post anything else on the subject because:
a) I've got other things to do.
b) This is the Random Thoughts thread where people like to read and share short, snappy posts. Which this clearly isn't.