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I'd rather die doing the thing i love, but if i remain in indy wrestling but also have another job i would be happy with that. If i got to WWE i would be the happiest in the world.
 
I'd rather die doing the thing i love, but if i remain in indy wrestling but also have another job i would be happy with that. If i got to WWE i would be the happiest in the world.

I'm with you on that one. It's a passion so you have to go for it. Look at all the hundreds and thousands of people that become Wrestlers. I'm tired of reading people's biography's about how they made it big. I could be getting out there and giving it more than my best while I can. You only live once.
 
I'd rather die doing the thing i love, but if i remain in indy wrestling but also have another job i would be happy with that. If i got to WWE i would be the happiest in the world.
The chances of you getting to the WWE are roughly the chances of someone playing major league baseball. Which are not good.

I'm with you on that one. It's a passion so you have to go for it. Look at all the hundreds and thousands of people that become Wrestlers. I'm tired of reading people's biography's about how they made it big. I could be getting out there and giving it more than my best while I can. You only live once.
Exactly. Why would you want to waste that one life on wrestling? The movie "The Wrestler" is only partly fiction. It's a very true story for far too many wrestlers.
 
Of course it is, because it sure as heck wouldn't be mine. Just because it is your choice though doesn't make it any less of a bad decision.

I respect your opinion, but why are you making a big deal over mine? I'm not bothered that you're an educator. So, why are you flaming on me wanting to become a professional wrestler?
 
I respect your opinion, but why are you making a big deal over mine? I'm not bothered that you're an educator. So, why are you flaming on me wanting to become a professional wrestler?

I'm not flaming you, I'm telling you it's a stupid decision. That doesn't mean you don't have to do it, just understand you're getting yourself into one of the worst professions possible.
 
I'm not flaming you, I'm telling you it's a stupid decision. That doesn't mean you don't have to do it, just understand you're getting yourself into one of the worst professions possible.

Oh well when you put it like that, I'm sorry for going off the way I did.

You're probably right though. I'm still only 16 and I don't know what I want. I wanted to be an Author or a Graphic Designer. Maybe even a Tattooist. I don't know where to start with any though. I just thought of Wrestling because I'm really into it and it sounds like a cool thing to do for a living.
 
I'm not flaming you, I'm telling you it's a stupid decision. That doesn't mean you don't have to do it, just understand you're getting yourself into one of the worst professions possible.

If you love it and it makes you happy then it isn't one of the worst professions. What you're saying is completely subjective but you're saying it as if it is fact.

And, I mean this as a legitimate question, how do you know what is like to be a professional wrestler? How do you know if the cons outweigh the pros without doing it first-hand?
 
I just thought of Wrestling because I'm really into it and it sounds like a cool thing to do for a living.
For most people, it never becomes what they want out of it. And by the time you realize that, you've already spent 15-20 years of your life with nothing to show for it.

Find a career where you can work to build for your future.
If you love it and it makes you happy then it isn't one of the worst professions. What you're saying is completely subjective but you're saying it as if it is fact.

And, I mean this as a legitimate question, how do you know what is like to be a professional wrestler? How do you know if the cons outweigh the pros without doing it first-hand?
Well, let me put it to you this way. I don't have first-hand knowledge of what it's like to run head-first at full speed into a brick wall, but I know it's not going to feel good and could cause permanent injury.

You don't have to have first-hand knowledge of something to know what it's like. Look at all the wrestlers who have died early deaths. Look at people like Hogan and Foley who can barely walk 40 yards anymore. Look at guys like Dusty Rhodes or Abdullah the Butcher who walk around with their forehead full of scars. Look at all the druggies there are in wrestling, the people addicted to painkillers, look at how many wrestlers end their career with no money to their name. Look how many wrestlers work small-time indy feds and never make the big time. Read books on different wrestlers, or Internet reports from journalists, on how many scumbag promoters there are, who are willing to let you die in the ring, and then cheat you on your portion of the profits.

I don't have to be a wrestler to know what the wrestling business is like. And I don't have to be a wrestler to know the wrestling business is a terrible profession for everyone except the very top guys. And even then, those guys can look like Foley and Hogan, barely able to walk to the ring.
 
Not to mention the negative effect I'm sure this has on any sort of normal family life. On the road for 3/4 of the year, not much opportunity to spend with your spouse (probably a blessing in disguise) or your kids. I doubt Ric Flair could even provide the names of all of his kids (that he knows of), he has seen so little of them while he has been travelling the world styling and profiling. Which is fine, pro athletes have to deal with this all the time. Except pro athletes have an off-season and generally don't compete into their 60's.

You could have the world of professional wrestling from me. I love to watch it (except TNA ;) ) but I certainly wouldn't want to be directly involved in it. I kind of like still being able to walk and talk normally.
 
Hey 90's kid (and even you J-Dogg, even if you're farther along in the process), follow Jesse Ventura's advice to Chris Jericho (that Jericho wrote in his book). Get a degree. I'm pretty sure Foley said it too in "Have a Nice Day", and JR (on his website), Lance Storm (on his website) and almost everyone else. These guys all basically said that you NEED something reliable to "fall back on" because chances are it wrestling won't be a reliable paycheck for you. In my life, I only know 1 person who tried to make it in wrestling. Sure, he has made it so far (if losing to Santino clean on RAW=making it), but it's HIGHLY unlikely, so have a "backup" plan.

And when I said "backup plan" and "fall back on", what I meant was concentrate on those, and if wrestling worked out, then so be it.
 
I thought about being a wrestler for all of 5 seconds. Then I realized the risk far outweighs the reward. Plus, I'm actually quite smart, and I'd like to use my knowledge for something that can only last for so long.
 
That figures. That date didn't stand out. I figure maybe 7-7-96 or 11-9-97 could bring that many people if the forums were around back then.
 
Well, let me put it to you this way. I don't have first-hand knowledge of what it's like to run head-first at full speed into a brick wall, but I know it's not going to feel good and could cause permanent injury.

Running head first into a brick wall and wrestling are very different. Different to the point that they can't really be compared.

You don't have to have first-hand knowledge of something to know what it's like. Look at all the wrestlers who have died early deaths. Look at people like Hogan and Foley who can barely walk 40 yards anymore. Look at guys like Dusty Rhodes or Abdullah the Butcher who walk around with their forehead full of scars. Look at all the druggies there are in wrestling, the people addicted to painkillers, look at how many wrestlers end their career with no money to their name. Look how many wrestlers work small-time indy feds and never make the big time. Read books on different wrestlers, or Internet reports from journalists, on how many scumbag promoters there are, who are willing to let you die in the ring, and then cheat you on your portion of the profits.

I don't have to be a wrestler to know what the wrestling business is like. And I don't have to be a wrestler to know the wrestling business is a terrible profession for everyone except the very top guys. And even then, those guys can look like Foley and Hogan, barely able to walk to the ring.

Sure, first-hand knowledge is not essential to passing judgement on something. But without it, views can become skewed. Read books and articles all you want, but nothing compares to seeing or doing something yourself. That's why in sociology, participant observation is generally seen as a superior research method.

To an extent, I am not disputing what you are saying. I'm sure the promoters, drugs, etc do happen quite a bit. However, I can't help but feel that your examples of Abdullah the Butcher, Dusty Rhodes, Foley and Hogan are outdated. I'm fairly new to professional wrestling but I'm pretty sure it has changed a bit over time with regards to drugs, blading and such. Wrestling is also different between nations. Here in Britain, wrestling is more like the wrestling of old. The USA, however, is flooded with backyard and hardcore wrestling associations, more so than the UK. I am, as is That 90's Kid, seeing wrestling from a British perspective.

However, I don't have first-hand experience. So my knowledge on this subject is somewhat handicapped.
 
Running head first into a brick wall and wrestling are very different. Different to the point that they can't really be compared.
wrestling = repetitive Brick Walls.

Sure, first-hand knowledge is not essential to passing judgement on something. But without it, views can become skewed. Read books and articles all you want, but nothing compares to seeing or doing something yourself. That's why in sociology, participant observation is generally seen as a superior research method.
1st hand knowledge is better. 2nd hand knowledge is better then no knowledge, especially when you consider where the knowledge is coming from (not the posters, but like what I said, which was from people with first hand knowledge like Jericho, Storm, Foley, and even JR).

To an extent, I am not disputing what you are saying. I'm sure the promoters, drugs, etc do happen quite a bit. However, I can't help but feel that your examples of Abdullah the Butcher, Dusty Rhodes, Foley and Hogan are outdated. I'm fairly new to professional wrestling but I'm pretty sure it has changed a bit over time with regards to drugs, blading and such. Wrestling is also different between nations. Here in Britain, wrestling is more like the wrestling of old. The USA, however, is flooded with backyard and hardcore wrestling associations, more so than the UK. I am, as is That 90's Kid, seeing wrestling from a British perspective.
1. The bolded sentence is wrong. DEAD wrong. Lets replace the names you listed with Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Test, Big Bossman, and about 50 other 90/00's wrestlers who passed prematurely due to drugs. And Foley is hardly an outdated name, he's a 90's wrestling star. 80's stars ended up druggies or dead. 90's stars are the same. It's still too early to generalize the 00's, but a bunch of them have died, including in the worst possible fashion (Benoit).
2. In WWE you don't have much of a blading problem, what with the no blood policy, and in general you might not blade as much, because schedules have lessened somewhat from the 80's. You'd still blade though.
3. I don't know how financially stable being a pro wrestler in Britain is. In the US, if you're not in WWE or TNA (MAYBE a top ROH guy with a bunch of indy bookings) you likely aren't going to be all that well off. Britain doesn't have any real global companies like the US, so the WWE/TNA level of success likely is a pipedream.
 
And right about now,
I find it quite serendipitous to see that all of you some-timin',
wishy-washy, two-faced, back-stabbin',
coniving hypocrites have accumulated here in my midst to persecute my character
with such flagrant slanderousity,
but I counter-attack by calling it constructive criticism,
and all of your negativity has been recycled into motivation,
and I am still the American Dream.
Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost, but now I'm found; was blind, but now I see.
There's a lot of people out there who can identify with me.
Yes sir, I am just like Ham. I'm for the black man,
the mexican, and even poor white,
all human beings that have no rights. So put down your past, pick up your future,
follow me as we journey through the Red Sea,
cause I have been to the mountain top,
I've seen the Promised Land,
my eyes have seen the glory of the Underground Category.
My mind has been delivered.
My spirit has been reinstated from the Corporate World's modern-day slavery.
I've been emancipated. Free at last! Free at last! Fuck a drug test,
I'm fittin' to roll some grass. Love, peace, and Afro grease.
 
Sly lets just agree to disagree but i also respect your opinion, and at the moment i'd rather stay in indy wrestling in my own country and still have a job thats part time or full time which is what im doing, but i know the risks i know the pros and con's, im doing what i enjoy the most. Also the promotion im with are very good, and make us train in the safest way possible and make us practice the same things over and over again so we reduce the risks. And certain wrestlers there have been WWE trained.
 

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