Quran Burning in Florida.

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As many know, there is a pastor of a Christian church in Florida who plans on a public burning of the Muslim holy book The Quran, for the anniversary of the September 11th terrorist attacks. This is just one of the many "Anti-Muslim" tactics going on. No I'm not referring to the Ground Zero thing, more so of the Mosque burnings going on all around the country. Could this put the troops who are overseas in MORE danger? As this could motivate more attacks on them. I am not a Christian, nor am I a Muslim. But I do feel this is going a little too far. If I were to go in public and start burning Bibles, the outcry would be nation wide. This man may be putting the lives of many in jeopardy, for something he believes is right, so is this not in it's own way an act of terror? Here is an article about the whole situation.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – The government turned up the pressure Tuesday on the head of a small Florida church who plans to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11, warning him that doing so could endanger U.S. troops and Americans everywhere.

But the Rev. Terry Jones insisted he would go ahead with his plans, despite criticism from the top U.S. general in Afghanistan, the White House and the State Department, as well as a host of religious leaders.

Jones, who is known for posting signs proclaiming that Islam is the devil's religion, says the Constitution gives him the right to publicly set fire to the book that Muslims consider the word of God.

Gen. David Petraeus warned Tuesday in an e-mail to The Associated Press that "images of the burning of a Quran would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan — and around the world — to inflame public opinion and incite violence." It was a rare example of a military commander taking a position on a domestic political matter.

Jones responded that he is also concerned but is "wondering, 'When do we stop?'" He refused to cancel the protest set for Saturday at his Dove World Outreach Center, a church that espouses an anti-Islam philosophy.
 
What I get out of this: Muslims building an Islamic Center is extreme and evil, but burning their holy book is being a Christian.

Got it.
 
Exactly, I agree with you KB. I just don't see how they can condemn one, yet do something worse, and that's okay? I've never understood how a religion could be run like that, even other Christian leaders are saying this is a horrible thing to do. The White house is speaking out about it, and the FBI is going to be on the scene
 
Many of the GOP have spun this against the Mosque being built, saying just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Yeah, that's not a jump AT ALL.
 
Well even the guy who is behind the Ground Zero one said if he knew the outcry would be this extreme, he would have done it somewhere else. But that's not even the biggest issue. The book burning, plus Mosque burnings going on are. Like the one in Tennessee. They are doing the very thing they accuse the Muslim people of doing. I guess I'm just baffled at the level some people will go.
 
I don't know what they think the point of this is. Even if, for some reason, you despise Muslims, and think they're to blame for everything, you are putting peoples LIVES AT RISK. Do they not realise all this is going to do is make the situation worse? There will definitely be some type of payback for this by extremists - I worry what that will be.
 
I don't know what they think the point of this is. Even if, for some reason, you despise Muslims, and think they're to blame for everything, you are putting peoples LIVES AT RISK. Do they not realise all this is going to do is make the situation worse? There will definitely be some type of payback for this by extremists - I worry what that will be.

As do I! I'm not even in the same country, and I still fear the backlash. Nothing good can come from it at all. He may think this is some type of "payback" but it's not, if anything it's like trying to put out a fire using more gas.
 
I don't know what they think the point of this is. Even if, for some reason, you despise Muslims, and think they're to blame for everything, you are putting peoples LIVES AT RISK. Do they not realise all this is going to do is make the situation worse? There will definitely be some type of payback for this by extremists - I worry what that will be.

It's always the same: "Christians" feel they can get away with the same stuff that other religions are condemned for because it's in the name of Jesus.

I've read the Bible many, many times and I've read what Jesus' teachings were many, many times, and I don't once recall him saying burn things if the people disagree with you. These people aren't Christians, at least not from my perspective.
 
They've already issued travel warnings for US citizens going to other countries, due to the Anti-US rallies.
 
It's always the same: "Christians" feel they can get away with the same stuff that other religions are condemned for because it's in the name of Jesus.
I've read the Bible many, many times and I've read what Jesus' teachings were many, many times, and I don't once recall him saying burn things if the people disagree with you. These people aren't Christians, at least not from my perspective.

I've read it too, Have a copy of the Quran on it's way as well. Ordered one last week. But I don't ever recall seeing anything about burning or killing anyone else for not agreeing with their ways either.
 
As do I! I'm not even in the same country, and I still fear the backlash. Nothing good can come from it at all. He may think this is some type of "payback" but it's not, if anything it's like trying to put out a fire using more gas.

I like you.

It's always the same: "Christians" feel they can get away with the same stuff that other religions are condemned for because it's in the name of Jesus.

I've read the Bible many, many times and I've read what Jesus' teachings were many, many times, and I don't once recall him saying burn things if the people disagree with you. These people aren't Christians, at least not from my perspective.

It'd be amusing if it weren't so serious. But the expectation that there will be no backlash due to this has passed naivety and drawn into plain stupidity. Whether it be innocent people simply on the street, or innocent, brave troops, someone will pay for it. The fact that that's okay with them further shows how un-Christian they are.
 
Yep. They have no foresight as to what they're going to cause, but hey they get to bash Muslims that had nothing to do with this for a few hours, so it's all ok right?
 
And the White House is "deciding" weather or not to contact the pastor. NEWS FLASH! That should've been done a while ago. This is not what America is about. Period.
 
The FBI has already been to his house. But they can't "Officially" do anything about it besides give him a ticket for "public arson" or whatever the hell they are calling it.
 
The fact that either one has become the issue it has is stupid, both cases are stupid and both cases HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO. Freedom for Religion and Freedom of speech work in this manner. Sure they should not be doing this, the people trying to open a mosque are radicals, but they have the right to open it, and the man wanting to burn the Muslims Books is a Christian Paster, he believes the books are evil anyway, why cant he burn them?

Its all the first Amendment, and they are protected under it, will it cause repercussions? Of course, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, does that give them any less right to build a prayer building or burn some books simply because people dont like it? No
 
I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to, but more of why does he not see some of the consequences for his actions? Just because you have the RIGHT to do something, does not mean you should do it. You say you love America, then why are you willing to put many American's health and safety in jeopardy? That's exactly what this is going to do. I have the right to film me burning both the American and Afghan flag on TV, but doesn't mean I'm going to do so, it's in poor taste.
 
The fact that either one has become the issue it has is stupid, both cases are stupid and both cases HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO. Freedom for Religion and Freedom of speech work in this manner. Sure they should not be doing this, the people trying to open a mosque are radicals, but they have the right to open it, and the man wanting to burn the Muslims Books is a Christian Paster, he believes the books are evil anyway, why cant he burn them?

Its all the first Amendment, and they are protected under it, will it cause repercussions? Of course, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, does that give them any less right to build a prayer building or burn some books simply because people dont like it? No

Equal? Don't make me laugh, the consequence of this is NOT going to be having the Bible burnt - making it equal. The consequences of this will be death.
 
Equal? Don't make me laugh, the consequence of this is NOT going to be having the Bible burnt - making it equal. The consequences of this will be death.

I agree with Becca. Remember 2005? All that happened was someone did a cartoon of Muhammad, and what was the outcome? Did they just show a picture of Jesus doing something dumb? No. It's was violence. Many more people died as a result of it. This is 100x worse then that.
 
I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to, but more of why does he not see some of the consequences for his actions?

No he doesnt, just as the Cleric whom builds his mosque doesnt. They are radicals.

Just because you have the RIGHT to do something, does not mean you should do it.

No, this is of course where common sense comes in in our country, very few have this.

You say you love America, then why are you willing to put many American's health and safety in jeopardy? That's exactly what this is going to do.

Im assuming this is directed at him. But really this shouldnt be doing as much as its being made out to be. Muslim Churches in AMERICA burn Bibles all the time, do Christians riot and kill people and blow shit up? No. They have in the past, just like people of most religions when you have radical elements.

The media in this nation is totally overblowing this situation though. Wow someone whos religion states all others is wrong/evil(just like pretty much every other one) is burning books he finds evil. The media is attacking him and yeling about him and Obama is even thinking about calling him. get the fuck over it. You people have no right to stop him if he wants to be a dumbass or you dont agree.

I have the right to film me burning both the American and Afghan flag on TV, but doesn't mean I'm going to do so, it's in poor taste.

In your opinion yes, but we cant go applying the same to others. I would NEVER burn an American flag because I love this country and what it stands for, but last I recall its protected under the 1st Amendment, thus you are free to do so.

Our country is built on individual liberties, and we shouldnt be going around silencing those whom use them even if they are nuts.
 
To quote something off that first link

“To all followers of Islam: Please do not judge all Christians by the behavior of one extremist,” NAE President Leith Anderson said. “One person with 30 silent followers does not speak for 300 million Americans who will never burn a Qu’ran.”

Funny since a lot of people think all Muslims are terrorists based off of a group of people who did something in the name of that faith :shrug:
 

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