Ongoing Thread For Smarmy Spam Responses to the WZT
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PsychoBlack
Damn it feels good to be a Taylor!!
Ghost clearly had the worst argument. Let's not forget about Echelon saying that Misawa drawing Gates of 1500 every night made Misawa a bigger draw than Taker
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Yet you clearly missed the fact that Misawa had a tenth or less of the population to draw from than Taker and the WWE. And the majority of the time Taker wasn't the one even drawing the big numbers for WWE. As evidenced through the fact that he was never, not once, the top draw in the WWE.
Thriller Ant
Beep Bop Boop
Have you seen pictures of the guy? I'm pretty sure he could rip a tree in half
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Da fuq? The man slammed Haystacks Calhoun, who was much larger than Big Show or Andre.
Pay Per Ghost
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Dear boy it was in response to your molehill comment. I have shown you how Taker's fame has spread to far corners. Re-read and you will know that he was at one time more famous than Hogan.
Overall around the globe, and I have said this, he is as popular as Hogan, if not more. He just is.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Paperghost you do realize that it was Kane that starred in See No Evil and not Glen Jacobs, right? If he looked sad or mad, that's because it's fucking Kane; he's supposed to look that way.
Pay Per Ghost
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I know, and that was my point that he has to stay in gimmick and then act in a movie as such. Doesn't that bother everyone as much as it did me?
Much to my chagrin, I have had to counter and the basis of that thread for me has become, Undertaker is just as popular around the world as Hogan. I have said there why Taker can't be THE guy.
Much to my chagrin, I have had to counter and the basis of that thread for me has become, Undertaker is just as popular around the world as Hogan. I have said there why Taker can't be THE guy.
Hogan is the most recognizable man in the history of professional wrestling. This isn't just an opinion held by one man, it's pretty much an accepted truth. He's the biggest crossover star wrestling has ever offered, and is the reason for not just one promotion becoming #1, but two promotions, one in which was notorious for losing money.
There are plenty of arguments to be made for Taker. You've chosen the absolute worst one
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Er... no. It was probably just you.
Pay Per Ghost
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Hogan is the most recognizable man in the history of professional wrestling. This isn't just an opinion held by one man, it's pretty much an accepted truth. He's the biggest crossover star wrestling has ever offered, and is the reason for not just one promotion becoming #1, but two promotions, one in which was notorious for losing money.
There are plenty of arguments to be made for Taker. You've chosen the absolute worst one
Most recognizable around the world? No. I have been around the South Asian Subcontinent, and people know Taker. Told you WWF really started airing in 93, Hogan left by 94. WCW started airing by 97. People had no idea about his WWF Hulkamania legacy. A huge chunk of the world population had no idea. But they knew this spooky Undertaker.
KB has convinced me Hogan is perhaps the most successful pro wrestler based on his track record like 2 years ago. I haven't argues since then as to why Hogan is bigger than Austin. What you say, I have realized long back.
That thread for me has spiralled into proving that Taker is more recognizable. With Hogan in TNA maybe more so now.
I am just speaking of his popularity globally.
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doesn't know REAL wrestling...
Taker could quite possibly break into the top 5 most recognisable wrestlers worldwide but he is nowhere near the likes of Hogan or the Rock.
There's so much of this that is wrong, I literally have no idea where to start.
But I'll start with this; your argument that Taker's gimmick is why he could never be the top guy is wretched. Sting's gimmick couldn't do the same thing, and he was WCW's top face. Same thing is true for Goldberg, same thing is true for Austin.
Even if what you say is true about South Asia, I hope you recognize that's one part of the world. So let's just say Taker is bigger in South Asia (I don't believe it, but ok). Hogan's still bigger and more known in;
Europe
Japan
Australia
Mexico
And essentially the entire world. Were this a game of Risk, Taker would be fucked.
It's no shame to be a molehill to a mountain. 99.9% of the wrestling amounts to the exact same thing. It isn't a knock on Taker, as much a truth about Hogan
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Not to mention that Hogan was a massive draw in Japan... which was the hotbed of pro wrestling in Asia. Taker's global popularity is based on WWE's global popularity, and WWE wasn't globally popular until the early to mid 2000's.
And, probably the most important thing;
Without Hulk Hogan, the WWE doesn't have global popularity
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
And if Taker's prime was during the early to mid 90's, then no one outside of the WWE's regional to national audience would know who he was. By the mid 90's Hogan was a massive draw in the States, he was a massive draw in Canada, and he was a massive draw in Japan.
In that match we are essentially comparing the biggest draw in the Elite 8 to the weakest.
Pay Per Ghost
What they f*ck happened in the thread section here
I get it, I do.
I have told you that Hogan is to me the most successful pro-wrestler but he isn't as fucked up as you say when it comes to global popularity.
I do think Taker in his Deadman gimmick's prime put butts every 18 inches. IN Europe, IN Australia and he would anywhere in the subcontinent.
All I was sharing was from a personal POV, how big Taker is everywhere I've gone around these parts. And from what I've heard from family friends from the UK.
I have told you that Hogan is to me the most successful pro-wrestler but he isn't as fucked up as you say when it comes to global popularity.
I do think Taker in his Deadman gimmick's prime put butts every 18 inches. IN Europe, IN Australia and he would anywhere in the subcontinent.
All I was sharing was from a personal POV, how big Taker is everywhere I've gone around these parts. And from what I've heard from family friends from the UK.
Pay Per Ghost
What they f*ck happened in the thread section here
Looking back I kinda lament that I made my posts about how Taker is more popular than Hogan, I have given ample proof as I lived through it, how Taker is more recognizable in a huge part and would be a legit draw.
Would't he draw in Europe and Australia? Wouldn't people pay to see him there?
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
People would pay to see the WWE; not Taker. As an independent his star power greatly decreases. For proof, how is Rock's movie career been going since he cut ties with WWE? Is Jericho a bigger name thanks to music and television or due to his work with WWE?
Hogan was a massive star despite the WWE machine.
Pay Per Ghost
What they f*ck happened in the thread section here
Make sense, but I wish I could show you that Undertaker is a very famous figure in a big chunka land down here. I think he could.
If a Aussie or British fan could chime in and answer this scenario...would they pay to see The Deadman? Just the Deadman.
