Ongoing Thread For Smarmy Spam Responses to the WZT

[Coco]

I think it sets in before that. You already have a bias towards guys you "were there" for and an aversion to those from times or places you "don't get."

Bullshit. I'll ride Pat O'Connor's jock with the best of 'em.

I'm just acutely aware of which guys do well in this tournament. And those are normally the guys that our fellow users "were there" for.

 

[Shocky]

Under no scenario does HBK beat Lesnar in an Extreme Rules match. Brock smash indeed.

 

[Con T.]

You have to love tournament logic. Most of the people voting for Yokozuna admit that Piper is a better wrestler, but that they can't imagine Piper's offense knocking down Yokozuna, like it were a shoot.

They have no problem, of course, turning right around in the same region and saying they feel Ricky Steamboat's offense would do much against Ken Shamrock.

Logic, I say.

 

[klunderbunker]

My answer to the argument against Piper: the end of Wrestlemania X.

 

[D-Man]

More than that you twilight freak. Also why is everyone taking me 100% serious today? Tournament time makes for weird dispositions.

Backpeddling.

 

[Shocky]

I pointed out the Yoko falling thing, but that's a really weak argument. Basically Yoko has to beat himself. It's a legit argument, just not a strong one.

 

[Con T.]

My answer to the argument against Piper: the end of Wrestlemania X.

Oh don't worry, I['m cooking up a something

 

[klunderbunker]

Alright then we'll try that PIper is much smarter than Yoko and wouldn't go head on at him. Also, Piper hardly ever lost. He avoided being pinned by Hulk Hogan throughout the 80s. That above all else would be a solid argument for him.,

 

[Con T.]

I pointed out the Yoko falling thing, but that's a really weak argument. Basically Yoko has to beat himself. It's a legit argument, just not a strong one.

How about that he was a better performer?

Something I believe you say, right in the middle of your post

 

[Harthan]

Someone say something smarmy about my argument against Hogan.

Which is, of course, flawless. So it might be hard for you.

 

[Shocky]

How about that he was a better performer?

Something I believe you say, right in the middle of your post

Which he was, but I think Yoko's title reign is one of the most forgotten in history. During Yoko's prime it was a big deal if that guy got knocked off his feet. Most people remember the morbidly obese Yoko from 1996, not the agile Yoko that held the belt for 8 months.

 

[Con T.]

During Yoko's prime it was a big deal if that guy got knocked off his feet.

Oh, you're really going to like my post when you see it

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

Without doubt, my vote is instantly going to Edge because he's everything he is - to me. However, I'm going to lend a hand to Bobby Roode here in helping people to evenly look at this.

Bobby Roode has accomplished something Edge never could - and now, never will. He held the Heavyweight Championship (of his Company) for longer than anyone else in 'said' Company. Furthermore, he's held the Championship longer in his first reign, than Edge has in any of his. Infact, Edge has only once held the Championship over 100 days. Bobby held his for 256. If anyone deserves to give him a run for his money, (no pun intended) Bobby has the abilities to win here.

Now, yes Edge had tougher opponents and more challenges, however the fact remains Edge was a top figure in the WWE and just couldn't hold the Championship very long at all. Bobby Roode became one of the most hated figures in TNA, and held the Championship almost 1-year.

Roode has the technical ability to match Edge, if not surpass him. Roode has the in-ring smarts to out-wit Edge at every turn, and that's exactly what this will come down to. Who can out think the other, in a game of wits and cheap tactics.

I'm picking Edge because I simply am. I'm playing that card. However, if Edge drops to Roode in round 1 - I wouldn't be surprised; and Roode would deserve every bit of that victory. Him being ranked 28th is a joke in its own right.

I don't know this guy. You've changed man.

 

[SSJPhenom]

You have to love tournament logic. Most of the people voting for Yokozuna admit that Piper is a better wrestler, but that they can't imagine Piper's offense knocking down Yokozuna, like it were a shoot.

They have no problem, of course, turning right around in the same region and saying they feel Ricky Steamboat's offense would do much against Ken Shamrock.

Logic, I say.

I think your main issue is with the fact that people are looking at this match up in a kayfabe sense.

Of course Piper was a better overall wrestler than Yoko, no doubt. However, whether you like it or not, during his prime, Yoko was a dominant force in the WWE and was hardly ever beaten. Whether he cheated, had help, or whatever, the man won matches. Also, I can't believe you'd take issue with Yoko cheating. How many of Piper's wins came from "bending the rules"?

The reason people are voting for Steamboat against Shamrock is because during his career, Steamboat was booked strongly against top level guys in the business (Flair, Savage, etc). We acknowledge that it wouldn't be easy for Steamboat, however, he'd prevail in the end.

 

[Con T.]

I think your main issue is with the fact that people are looking at this match up in a kayfabe sense.

Of course Piper was a better overall wrestler than Yoko, no doubt. However, whether you like it or not, during his prime, Yoko was a dominant force in the WWE and was hardly ever beaten. Whether he cheated, had help, or whatever, the man won matches. Also, I can't believe you'd take issue with Yoko cheating. How many of Piper's wins came from "bending the rules"?

The reason people are voting for Steamboat against Shamrock is because during his career, Steamboat was booked strongly against top level guys in the business (Flair, Savage, etc). We acknowledge that it wouldn't be easy for Steamboat, however, he'd prevail in the end.

I have no problem with that; the problem is, Yokozuna wasn't that dominant. I'm not faulting him for cheating, I'm faulting everyone that calls him a dominant force, and seem to argue that this match is now a shoot, and Yokozuna won't sell.

Hell, Yokozuna's best skill, the thing he was so good at, was actually selling. And besides that, Yokozuna didn't always win. He never beat Luger decisively, he never beat Savage decisively (he actually got dq'ed in those matches, too)

Yokozuna is just like any other heel, which is perfectly fine. But don't make him out to be this dominant force, because he wasn't

 

[Con T.]

And while I'm at it; why is it that everyone admits Piper is better, but vote in kayfabe that Yoko would win.

And then in the same breath, when they know Kerry Von Erich has beaten Hennig clean in kayfabe, choose to ignore that because they think Henning is better?

And before anyone asks;

1. I'm pretty sure a clean win in kayfabe is more important than a win by cheating.

2. Yeah, I think Kerry Von Erich is better

 

[SSJPhenom]

The point is that it might get people to look them up and learn about them. Some people actually do, or at least ask questions about them.

That's what I do if I don't know of a certain wrestler. Either that or I just don't post or vote.

 

[SSJPhenom]

And while I'm at it; why is it that everyone admits Piper is better, but vote in kayfabe that Yoko would win.

And then in the same breath, when they know Kerry Von Erich has beaten Hennig clean in kayfabe, choose to ignore that because they think Henning is better?

And before anyone asks;

1. I'm pretty sure a clean win in kayfabe is more important than a win by cheating.

2. Yeah, I think Kerry Von Erich is better

I'm not going to answer for other people. I'll tell you how I vote in this tournament.

I use kayfabe arguments the majority of the time. The only time I'll stray from the kayfabe sense is when the two wrestlers in question are very evenly matched. That's when I'll start looking at who had a better career, drawing ability, etc.

I voted for Yoko against Piper because I just can't see Piper beating Yoko in kayfabe.

BTW, I voted for Kerry Von Erich.

 

[Con T.]

So we're ignoring the point I made, are we?

Welcome to the Wrestlezone Tournament

Edit; at the least, IAP is consistent and I saw you voted KVE. I more mean Nick, Shocky, Jack Hammer

 

[JGlass]

And while I'm at it; why is it that everyone admits Piper is better, but vote in kayfabe that Yoko would win.

And then in the same breath, when they know Kerry Von Erich has beaten Hennig clean in kayfabe, choose to ignore that because they think Henning is better?

And before anyone asks;

1. I'm pretty sure a clean win in kayfabe is more important than a win by cheating.

2. Yeah, I think Kerry Von Erich is better

Because people will say anything to justify their actions, no matter how illogical they may be.

The WrestleZone Tournament is quickly becoming an interesting little study of human behavior, isn't it?

 

[Remix]

And while I'm at it; why is it that everyone admits Piper is better, but vote in kayfabe that Yoko would win.

And then in the same breath, when they know Kerry Von Erich has beaten Hennig clean in kayfabe, choose to ignore that because they think Henning is better?

And before anyone asks;

1. I'm pretty sure a clean win in kayfabe is more important than a win by cheating.

2. Yeah, I think Kerry Von Erich is better

People make their decisions and then try to justify it, not the other way around. That's just how humans work.

 

[klunderbunker]

Could it be because Hennig has also beaten Kerry more than once on his own?

 

[ABMorales787]

Someone say something smarmy about my argument against Hogan.

Which is, of course, flawless. So it might be hard for you.

Hogan revolutionized wrestling. Twice. Storm didn't.

 

[Con T.]

Could it be because Hennig has also beaten Kerry more than once on his own?

By count out, no?

 

[klunderbunker]

By count out, no?

You don't win back the Intercontinental Title by countout now do you?