One More Shot?

[DethMetal]

So last night, Jeff Hardy returned to iMPACT Wrestling. He basically said that the last time we saw him wrestle, he was pathetic. He let himself, fans, and the guys & gals in the back down. He said he's hit rock bottom, and although he can't change what happened, he asks for just one more shot.

Looks like they're playing the redemption angle with Jeff. Now, his promo wasn't exactly an apology of sorts, but Jeff looked like he finally realizes how much he's screwing up and wants to put that behind him and the the wrestler and role model he knows he can be(remember, the first step is admitting you have a problem). My questions are simple:

1. Does Jeff Hardy get one more shot? Not to TNA, because he's obviously been given that. In your mind, are you prepared to give Jeff Hardy one more chance?

2. In your mind, does Jeff Hardy even deserve another chance?

Personally, I want to give him another shot. I want to look back on his career and remember the guy who jumped 30 feet off of ladders for us. I want to remember the Jeff Hardy who I marked the fuck out for when he first won the WWE Championship. I want to remember one half of one of my favorite tag-teams. However, Jeff has had opportunity after oppotunity, and when you think the guy's all good, he does something jacked up. He's becoming more trouble than he's worth.

So, does Jeff Hardy get/deserve one more shot?

 

[This Is My Name Thank You]

1. Does Jeff Hardy get one more shot? Not to TNA, because he's obviously been given that. In your mind, are you prepared to give Jeff Hardy one more chance? I am prepared to give him another chance. Jeff looked good last night and looked like he was going to break into tears and you could just see the compassion in his face. I will give him another chance and many wrestlers have been giving chances after a bad experience. Sure he fucked up a ppv and that is terms of being fired but again Jeff was sincere looking and I felt as what he was saying is true and sincere.

2. In your mind, does Jeff Hardy even deserve another chance? Yes, did you hear the Hardy cheers last night? Did you hear how everyone exploded and erupted like a volcano when he showed up? I think Jeff deserves a chance as he can be the reasons for TNA to get some good ratings. I will give Jeff another chance as he is and always will be a star. Matt Hardy on the other hand I hope TNA never hires him again, unless he really, really, gets his shit together.

 

[Bigrog25]

Yes I will give him another chance, and yes I feel he deserves another chance. I'm sure they're will be many that come on here and blast him, but nit ke.

As a man who has dealt with addiction myself, and seen many others deal with it, I truly understand his disease, that's what it is, a disease, those that bash him just don't understand, it's not simply as easy as just saying I'm gonna stop today, I'm done being an addict. It's a process that takes years, and unfortunately sometimes lives. An addict is not a bad person, and are a completely different person usually when sober, I can't stress enough this is a disease, he's not at fault for this, it is something alot of people have todeal with. Some people can drink a beer or take a pill or smoke some weed and not need to do it again or let it take over their lives, but for someone with this disease it's just not that simple. He took alot of responsibility by manning up and apologizing to everyone in the back, not tv but in the back, which is a step in the right direction.

People also need to realizethat while he seems to realize and admit now that he has a problem, that doesn't mean he won't screw up again sometime later. Once again, this is a disease, relapse is a part of treatment and doesn't mean he isn't trying to recover. Being in the same environment that got him addicted is going to be the toughest thing for him, there is no way that's not a trigger so I say good luck jeff and God bless you sir, and just remember one day at a time, or take itdown to one hour at a time if need be.

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

I think he definitely deserves another chance and will get that chance. Let's be honest, the guy is freakin amazing when he's on point and if in the right mind state he can still be a huge asset. I will say one thing though, this time around, my expectations are very low. I find it hard to believe that he is ready to work and good to go at the same time his brother is having all kinds of problems and doing dumb shit. They seem to be very close and so I can't see ones actions not affecting the other. The whole crew seems to end up on the news for dumb shit (like helms too) and so I am hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst (i.e. not getting my hopes up too high for Jeff to be the Jeff of old). I think he's an amazing talent and hope the best for him and would love to see him get another run as a top talent.

 

[willross]

No he does not deserve a second chance. He should have been fired that night in his match against Sting. The only reason he left WWE is because he knew TNA had no drug testing and also knew that TNA let the talent do whatever the hell they want and them keeping him and Kurt Angle is proof of that.

Jeff Hardy can't draw flies to dog shit without the WWE, he has tried to go on his own twice now and has failed to draw, so why TNA keeps him on the payroll astonishes me. I understand why they keep Kurt Angle, with him going out for the Olympics and people will recognize him from the early 2000's in WWE and of course his 1996 gold medal win, so its good mainstream sport exposure, but no one is going to watch Jeff Hardy cause hes a drug addict.

Sum it up, Jeff Harvey,...Hardy does not deserve another chance and needs to go find something else to make a living with.

 

[El Rev sXe]

I really want to give him another chance, but IMO he spat in the face of us, fans, too many times. The only thing I can do is wait, and if he proves to himself, to the wrestling business and mainly to the fans that he can be a great professional wrestler and human being, then yes everything will be forgiven.

However right now, I don't trust in Jeff Hardy. He has to re gain that trust. Plus I've got to ask just how many chances can Jeff Hardy get? IF he screws this one, he doesn't deserves one more. Hell, I don't think he deserves this one. Look how many times his career has been in jeopardy for his problems. I hope he can get some help. But as far his professional career concerns, I don't think he deserves anything at all.

 

[blockanWo]

For the past few months, I have joined in, with many others in flat out condemning Jeff (and Matt) Hardy.

I watched Impact yesterday and heard his old music hit and I smiled. After everything hes done, I still want to see Jeff Hardy come off those top ropes and hit someone with a Swanton Bomb.

Admitting you fucked up, as the OP said is the first step and for everyone I hope its the first step in a long return.

On a side note, it looked like Jeff was in better shape than he was when we last saw him and I imagine now that hes court case is no longer looming over his head hes going to be in a better place mentally.

One more shot.

 

[Bigrog25]

@willross, actually you need to do your research.
Courtesy James Caldwell cause he can sum up what we learned about WWEs wellness policy from his court case much better than me:
"From a WWE angle, this is an indictment of the state of their Wellness Policy two years ago. Hardy's attorney essentially stated for public record that Hardy was addicted to prescription drugs at the time of his arrest to cope with the bumps & bruises of being a wrestler. WWE doesn't look good coming out of this considering Hardy was full-time for WWE just two weeks before his arrest and he already had two strikes on the Wellness Policy."

Not to mention the wwe was also trying their hardest to resign the guy, even offering him " the elusive undertaker/Shawn Michaels" type deal, but he turned it down. So let's not act like he was forced out of wwe because he was an addict, while IW took him in with open arms because they don't care and wwe does. WWE in fact knew perfectly well he was dirty and chose not to give him his third strike which results in termination. Fact of the matter is they both wanted him, he was the hottest star in 2009, he was burnt out in WWE and decided he wanted a change.

 

[MisterRob]

@willross, actually you need to do your research.
Courtesy James Caldwell cause he can sum up what we learned about WWEs wellness policy from his court case much better than me:
"From a WWE angle, this is an indictment of the state of their Wellness Policy two years ago. Hardy's attorney essentially stated for public record that Hardy was addicted to prescription drugs at the time of his arrest to cope with the bumps & bruises of being a wrestler. WWE doesn't look good coming out of this considering Hardy was full-time for WWE just two weeks before his arrest and he already had two strikes on the Wellness Policy."

Not to mention the wwe was also trying their hardest to resign the guy, even offering him " the elusive undertaker/Shawn Michaels" type deal, but he turned it down. So let's not act like he was forced out of wwe because he was an addict, while IW took him in with open arms because they don't care and wwe does. WWE in fact knew perfectly well he was dirty and chose not to give him his third strike which results in termination. Fact of the matter is they both wanted him, he was the hottest star in 2009, he was burnt out in WWE and decided he wanted a change.

You seem to forget that WWE made it clear they WANTED Jeff Hardy to go into rehab and that was part of the deal they were offering. Why do you think they were offering him an elusive Undertaker/Shawn Michaels deal? Because that would cut down the amount of work he had, that would take away a large part of the weight, allowing him to heal better, to look after himself, and to deal better with his addictions and problems. He'd have time to do those things while still making money and working for the WWE.

You really expect WWE and you really think its bad of them, to just scrap everything and not TRY to keep one of their top stars.. after they built him up, pushed him into that position, and put all of that time and effort into making him into that star. They wanted to, obviously, reap the rewards and get something back for making him into that star. But stop twisting it to try to make WWE out to be some bad guy when they did what they could, and they CLEARLY pushed Hardy and made it known they wanted him in rehab. They offered him that opportunity and would've been entirely behind him through it (as they have been with other wrestlers in the past).

Instead of dealing with his problems and trying to fix them, he ran. And TNA took him in with open arms. What exactly did TNA do to deal with his clear problems? What did they do to try to help him? They did absolutely nothing. They enabled him and enabled his problems to continue while pushing him as their top guy and trying to make it big off him. And now, after even more problems and damage from his addictions, they STILL aren't doing anything.

Does Jeff Hardy deserve another shot? He's had countless shots to make things right. I'm a firm believer in giving more chances, but the guy has to actually give as much himself into making the changes he needs to be DESERVING of that second chance. Until Jeff Hardy takes time off to deal with his problems, admits he has those problems, goes to rehab and actually proves he's changing and overcoming his addictions.. then sorry, he doesn't deserve another shot at all. And he's not doing those things by returning to wrestling on Impact, sorry.

 

[Brian in Austin]

I thought his promo was terrible last night. I really expected more passion out of him and in my view he almost seemed disinterested. As though he was going thru the motions because that's what was required of him in order to keep his job. He got off very light for his actions, pled guilty, as I knew he would, and is essentially getting a slap on the wrist and a new lease on life. My guess is, at some point, he'll screw this one up too, just as he's done in the past. I hope I turn out to be wrong, but I wasn't wrong about him being an addict and pusher, nor was I wrong about his brother.

 

[Dizzy]

I thought his promo was terrible last night. I really expected more passion out of him and in my view he almost seemed disinterested.

That's how Jeff sounds with everything. It's just the way he is. He is one dimensional in terms of mic skills.

My guess is, at some point, he'll screw this one up too, just as he's done in the past. I hope I turn out to be wrong, but I wasn't wrong about him being an addict and pusher, nor was I wrong about his brother.

He's not that bad. I understand he's a fuck up but I think people need to realize, he also has a brain (despite his choices). Since Victory Road, his child is order, he's married, his brother's career is over, he nearly lost him, 2 year court case with a 7 year jail sentence and burning you're bridges in TNA and WWE would wake you up enough to realize something has got to give and I think he will change for the better.

I find it stupid people think he went to TNA because they let their talent do whatever they want. They let their talent control their character and give them room to breathe but If they let their talent do what they wanted, I'm sure we would see fat wrestlers with red eyes in the ring all the time and wrestlers leaving due to drug usage backstage. Which is far from what's happening in TNA or WWE for that matter.

I think his promo was a way to promote his DVD coming out in October which goes in depth into what happened the day of Victory Road and his real thoughts and whatnot.

 

[GameOver]

I will just because it's irrelevant anyway, either way he's back whether we like it or not and in the overall picture he's nowhere near the worst performer i just think he's highly overrated as a main eventer and his promo skills are bland/awfull.

Steve Blackman had better promo skills LOL

Just don't be suprised if he's offscreen again soon and the Hardy's, Moore, Helms are on the run/in jail or just plain out of a job.

 

[GameOver]

That's how Jeff sounds with everything. It's just the way he is. He is one dimensional in terms of mic skills.



He's not that bad. I understand he's a fuck up but I think people need to realize, he also has a brain (despite his choices). Since Victory Road, his child is order, he's married, his brother's career is over, he nearly lost him, 2 year court case with a 7 year jail sentence and burning you're bridges in TNA and WWE would wake you up enough to realize something has got to give and I think he will change for the better.

I find it stupid people think he went to TNA because they let their talent do whatever they want. They let their talent control their character and give them room to breathe but If they let their talent do what they wanted, I'm sure we would see fat wrestlers with red eyes in the ring all the time and wrestlers leaving due to drug usage backstage. Which is far from what's happening in TNA or WWE for that matter.

I think his promo was a way to promote his DVD coming out in October which goes in depth into what happened the day of Victory Road and his real thoughts and whatnot.

I don't think that, i think he went there to avoid WWE testing and obviously the schedule doesn't go well with regular drug use. He was gonna get the sack anyway if they caught him again, so he left on his own terms instead. Saying that i do wish him well if he can turn things around, he would be one of few people to achieve it, but also he/you shouldn't expect people to drool all over him saying he's reborn blah blah, this is the 7th chance now. He screwed WWE over 4 times (on the verge of 5 times) and this is the 3rd time he's come back to TNA after being taken off TV or jumping ship

Too your point about Red Eyes and Fat, so you mean like Joe and Jeff Hardy? Jeff was still in shape when he was in WWE soon as he turned up in TNA he got obviously fatter and was obviously under the influence of something.

and allowing people free reign of how to control there character is not necessarily a good thing, if the person isn't capable or willing to learn letting them ruin your show is not helping anyone. Also do you really think they have alot of control. Anyway that opbviously isn't working for them, the shows still suck in general and booking is awfull, if people truly had creative freedom to breathe, do you really think they would let creative put there characters in the shit they put them in.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

first off let me just say this...its really fucking annoying to read a post thats in that type of writing and it makes it really hard to read just a piece of advice for the future...change and use a different type of writing js

but now back on topic....right now with him going to rehab and it looks like hes trying to clean his act up ill give him 1 more chance as i still have some respect for the guy and im still some what of a fan of him but honestly 1 more mistake and im done with him like i am his brother who lost my respect with the fake suicide video do i think he deserves 1 more chance with tna? yes only because he has alot of fans and if you get rid of him you do lose fans with him as he used to have a cult following doubt he does still but im sure plently of fans love him still just look at the huge pop he got on impact!

 

[thomas1027]

listen to you people... neither of them meaning jeff or matt deserve a second or third or fourth chance. but i love how he said shot instead of chance. we all know what was on his mind and waiting in his car for him. a big bottle of im a loser. jeff this,jeff that, you people who stick up for this piece of shit are as bad as him. he is buying and selling drugs. is that okay with you? would you want your kids idolizing him? my son is only 9 and thinks he is a loser now. grow up, get real and face facts. he is the biggest fuck up and he will NEVER change. 10 days in jail???????????/ thats it. money talks...... just like helms gets arrested,moore probrally has been arrested. there all fuck ups..........

 

[marker]

just look at the huge pop he got on impact

yes, he got the good pop. When immortal was beating up sting the crowd started to chant Hardy, Hardy ... expecting Hardy to come and help Sting out. So crowd definitely likes Hardy.

I also like him and I was happy he returned. I just hope he can live up to his words and really get his life back on track. He has still many years ahead of him, and he can do a loot for tna and wrestling as a whole.

 

[Bigrog25]

It has nothing to do with if he had to go to rehab for the new deal or not, the fact of the matter is he already had two strikes and they wouldn't give him a third because they would have had to terminate him. That's what I was referring to, people act as though wwe really truly gives a damn, if this was the case they would have terminated him, but he was their hottest star in 2009, and they weren't gonna lose all the money he was bringing in. His lawyer made it clear he was addicted and had been for quite some time, that means he def should have already had his third strike as there is no way he would have been clean. WWE fully knew he was loaded, and when push cones to shove, I'd be willing to bet he could have gotten the rehab clause taken out, I mean once again he was their biggest draw of 2009, I clearly remember seeing that they were freaking out when he first debuted in IW, and were relieved once he didn't change things ratings wise. If this is true, he clearly had the power when he left to get what he wanted, he CHOSE IW, simply because that's where his buddy RVD was going an he talked him into it. There was talk he wasn't even going to wrestle for awhile if ever again, but RVD got in his ear about how they could run IW and do whatever they wanted seeing as how he became good friends with "hulky" as he calls him in the last few years.

I just get tired of people acting like wwe is so pure and IW is a branch from hell morality wise, let's be real, neither is pure, the wellness policy is about as legit as a politician. Neither really truly gives a damn if you sale merch and "put asses in seats" I mean McMahon made it clear he didn't care snuka killed that girl back in the 80s allegedly and what not, as long as he can make money off of you and you don't pull a Benoit, he will always do business time and time again.

 

[MisterRob]

It has nothing to do with if he had to go to rehab for the new deal or not, the fact of the matter is he already had two strikes and they wouldn't give him a third because they would have had to terminate him. That's what I was referring to, people act as though wwe really truly gives a damn, if this was the case they would have terminated him, but he was their hottest star in 2009, and they weren't gonna lose all the money he was bringing in. His lawyer made it clear he was addicted and had been for quite some time, that means he def should have already had his third strike as there is no way he would have been clean. WWE fully knew he was loaded, and when push cones to shove, I'd be willing to bet he could have gotten the rehab clause taken out, I mean once again he was their biggest draw of 2009, I clearly remember seeing that they were freaking out when he first debuted in IW, and were relieved once he didn't change things ratings wise. If this is true, he clearly had the power when he left to get what he wanted, he CHOSE IW, simply because that's where his buddy RVD was going an he talked him into it. There was talk he wasn't even going to wrestle for awhile if ever again, but RVD got in his ear about how they could run IW and do whatever they wanted seeing as how he became good friends with "hulky" as he calls him in the last few years.

I just get tired of people acting like wwe is so pure and IW is a branch from hell morality wise, let's be real, neither is pure, the wellness policy is about as legit as a politician. Neither really truly gives a damn if you sale merch and "put asses in seats" I mean McMahon made it clear he didn't care snuka killed that girl back in the 80s allegedly and what not, as long as he can make money off of you and you don't pull a Benoit, he will always do business time and time again.

And I get tired of people pretending that WWE's Wellness policy is totally hollow and has absolutely no merit. It may not be perfect, it may be many things, but it still has credibility. Its still FAR superior then anything TNA has or is doing.

WWE has suspended and removed stars like Rey Mysterio in the past. He's just as big a star and a draw for the WWE as Jeff Hardy ever was. The WWE has suspended and removed Randy Orton in the past for violations, not just of the wellness policy but other problems he's had behind the scenes.

Mr. Anderson, when he was in the WWE, violated the wellness policy and was suspended for doing so and written off television. He was in the midst of being pushed and was a rising star for the WWE and they still punished him and removed him from tv.

They've also helped and PAID for rehab for countless wrestlers, and many times wrestlers who aren't even with the company in any way. That doesn't benefit the company directly, that's for sure, but they still do it. So acting like they're some evil force that gives no shit about people, specifically wrestlers, isn't exactly true. So you're being a bit of a hypocrit, really. They care enough to go out of their way and pay for people who have no part of their company.

When people get on TNA for this sort of thing its not always because they're TNA haters, or because they like to criticize everything about the company. Sometimes its because they want TNA to do more, and realistically TNA hasn't really shown they do much of ANYTHING with any sort of wellness policy or to deal with the addictions and problems their talent has had. People just want to see them do more, and be harsher, and there's really nothing wrong with that.. this is people's lives that are at stake, not just their careers. Not just a show on television.

 

[Bigrog25]

They've suspended hardy too, I didn't say they don't suspend people, but when it comes to that elusive third strike leading to termination, it's never gonna happen to one of their true top stars. If you honestly believe that well good for you in make believe world my friend, but here in reality Vince McMahon has never shown that he will cease to make money off something as petty as failing a drug test. Let's be real here, when push comes to shove the wwe and IW are not real sports, they are a part of the entertainment industry, known for really not giving a fuck about anything but making money, that's what it's all about to all these people, you think anyone with power truly gives a flying fuck if hardy is loaded or not if they can make money off of him? Get real good sir.

 

[Uncle Phatso]

Jeff Hardy has been out of the limelight for quite some time now. I said last night to a moderator on the site that if I was brass in Tna I would have laughed in his face and told him to piss off. I've seen Hardy grow up from a kid destroying his body to what we have now. Hardy should be in his prime, he had the tallent in the family that's for sure. Whatever you can say about that.

But Hardy to me last night looked like a man who was told, Go out and cut a promo. You say no and we cut you. This looks like a man to me that just dosen't give a shit about the buisness anymore. I'm not saying I wanted him to cry and beg us. But he just seemed emotionless.

I will give him props for putting his body through shit. But I will not condone the shit he's pulled, he's been left go in the WWE twice now and once with the one he is in now. I'm not his babysitter. I'm a wrestling fan, I don't have to put up with drugged out wrestlers fucking up my programing. Tna is allright with me, I don't like everything about it. But I enjoy it somewhat.

Put the dude in rehab before you put him in the ring. If he says no, then he just lied to all the fans out there. If his back or whatever is bad enough to become addicted to pain killers like that. Then retire, no shame in that. Just stop letting the fans down.

 

[sfury2005]

I thought his promo was terrible last night. I really expected more passion out of him and in my view he almost seemed disinterested. As though he was going thru the motions because that's what was required of him in order to keep his job. He got off very light for his actions, pled guilty, as I knew he would, and is essentially getting a slap on the wrist and a new lease on life. My guess is, at some point, he'll screw this one up too, just as he's done in the past. I hope I turn out to be wrong, but I wasn't wrong about him being an addict and pusher, nor was I wrong about his brother.

He did get two and a half years probation as well I believe along with the 10 days in jail. If he does screw up he ends up back in jail serving that time. I assume there will be mandatory drug tests that he will have to take in the presence of his parole officers and if he tests positive he would automatically be taken to jail. Granted if it was you or I we would probably be given a much harsher sentence.

 

[xxxdaniel_ariesxxx]

I'd love to give him a second chance, but he has had them. He's had his second, and third, and fourth, and... you see where I'm going with this? He has been saying from the first time that he was fired by WWE in 2003 that he didn't need to go to rehab and that he didn't have a problem, while it had been obvious that he does. He was such a miserable drugged out wreck at the one show that he worked for ROH in 2003 that they NEVER brought him back. Then during his first run in TNA he regularly showed up late and was suspended a couple times and ultimately fired for no-showing shows that he was advertised for, due in large part to his drug issues. Then when he was resigned by WWE in 2006 he showed that nothing had changed when he failed two drug tests in his first 18 months back in the company. and we all know about the train wreck that has been his life since he left WWE. And still, it is going to take a court order, since I am assuming that some sort of rehab program is going to be a condition of his probation, as will random drug tests most likely, to make him get the help that he has been refusing to admit that he needs for the better part of a decade.

TNA should have given him the same ultimatum that he was given by WWE in 2003, go to a rehab program, that WWE would pay for by the way, or be fired on the spot. And Jeff Hardy, should have realized that he had a wife and kid now, and needed to get his shit together and be a fucking man. Neither of which happened. Hardy got a vacation and no accountability for his actions.

So, second chance? No, he has had more than his share of chances and he screws up every time, because regardless of what he says in a promo on a wrestling program, or in front of a judge when he is trying to get a lighter sentence, I don't believe that Hardy wants to change because I don't believe that Hardy thinks that he has a problem. If he did he would have done something about it on his own accord, instead of being forced into it by the courts.

 

[ctln4rko]

1. Does Jeff Hardy get one more shot? Not to TNA, because he's obviously been given that. In your mind, are you prepared to give Jeff Hardy one more chance?
Heck no. Hardy has publicly screwed up time and time again. Even on live PPV. If he really has cleaned his act up, maybe, but Hardy isn't in the "give another chance" section of my book. (metaphor)
2. In your mind, does Jeff Hardy even deserve another chance?
Absolutely positively not. As I said, he has screwed up time after time after time, even on live PPV. Once he really cleans up his act, maybe, but he doesn't deserve anything.

 

[MikeS]

I feel like Jeff has been given second chances again and again. If he can stay in the clear this time, than awesome. But Victory Road was bad, really bad. If anything like that happens again I wouldn't be surprised. I hope he stays clean for the future though.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

As though it matters what we think on the matter?

All you need to do to answer the question of whether or not Jeff Hardy "deserves" another shot to redeem his TNA career is to re-watch that segment and just listen. The moment Jeff's music hits, the crowd goes wild. He's cheered by what was somewhat of a standing ovation despite saying himself he did not deserve it. The crowd adored him, just like they adored him for years.

Those people are who's opinion matters. The ones buying PPV events, and tickets through the gate, not the ones scouring the internet to find illegal streams because they don't want to spend out of pocket. And those people quite obviously still love Jeff enough to warrant the company giving him another shot, regardless of his past and regardless of what he's done — even regardless of his sentence.