On The Horizon: Swagger face-turn?

[EricRuthGames]

It seems that after the events that transpired on tonight's RAW, the time tested tradition of a face turn seems to be lurking around Jack Swagger's immediate future. I am making this (my first) thread because I'm a huge Swagger mark and want to get some other people's opinions on the matter. So, without further ado, here are my 3 questions I would like to hear the IWC's responses on...

1. Do you think the setup tonight IS indeed the foretelling of Jack becoming an all American American face?

2. Do you think a face turn will help Swagger's image/career in the WWE? Maybe he'll get involved in the WHC picture again, especially due to the loss of Edge.

3. Your personal thoughts on the collegiate wrestling champion.

GO!

 

[xcoN]

Swagger needs to turn face and feud with Ziggler. I know they could give us some great matches. Anyways, I see him turning face or tricking us all into thinking he'll turn on Cole when he'll actually help him out in the tag match. Another idea for if he turns face; a Sheamus/Swagger feud for the U.S. title. Numerous ideas for the guy and hopefully it will help his career out. Jack Swagger is too good of a wrestler to job! Same with D.B.

 

[Nova Crystallis]

I would actually love to see Swagger turn face at the moment. As a heel he has been standing around, not doing much. Jack Swagger as a face could have some potential though as to turning on Michael Cole at Extreme Rules and making way for Lawler to beat the living hell out of Cole, while the "Voice of the WWE" is trapped in the Ankle Lock.

 

[GW_Hart86]

I would definately be interested to see Swagger turn face without a doubt because his charcater isn't quite excelling in its current angle. One thing is for sure, however, and that is, the WWE have completely lost the plot putting a guy like swagger in matches with michael cole and jerry lawlor and actually losing to them!

Swagger is one of the best talents around at the moment and really needs another push to help get him back in the main event picture. For the life of me, I can't understand how sawgger wasn't involved in the RAW gauntlet match tonight. That would've been a much better angle for him to get involved in!

 

[mral82]

I would definately be interested to see Swagger turn face without a doubt because his charcater isn't quite excelling in its current angle. One thing is for sure, however, and that is, the WWE have completely lost the plot putting a guy like swagger in matches with michael cole and jerry lawlor and actually losing to them!

Swagger is one of the best talents around at the moment and really needs another push to help get him back in the main event picture. For the life of me, I can't understand how sawgger wasn't involved in the RAW gauntlet match tonight. That would've been a much better angle for him to get involved in!

1st the reason he wasn't in the Raw Gauntlet match is that he technically a SmackDown! Superstar. And 2nd he will probably get a face run sometime in his career as everybody else has been a face and a heel during their careers. WWE needs another face as they currently are over ran w/ heels and Swagger could be that face.

 

[Random_Dude]

with edge gone now on SD it might be time for him to go face, his wrestling ability is one of the best in the business

 

[mkman613]

turning face is an awful idea for swagger. he is an awful heel that cant garner any heat on his own, i cant imagine what he could possibly do that would make the audience cheer for him night in and night out.

I personally think swagger is awful, but if anything, i think swagger needs a good manager by his side to be a good heel and actually get some heat. I haven't seen the WWE universe care so little about a guy in the ring that gets so much time on air. its not even boos, its no reaction at all. He needs to get big boos and he cant do it himself. GET THIS DUDE A PERMANENT HEEL MANAGER.

 

[MoizH28]

Now that Edge is gone and Christian will probably take his spot, Swagger can become the number two face on Smackdown. If they keep him on Smackdown he can feud with Cody Rhodes and Mcintyre. If they move him to Raw I think he will have more of a chance facing Ziggler, Sheamus and The Miz.

 

[xcoN]

Swagger only needs a manager to do the talking for him since he isn't good on the mic. He's far from being horrible if you're talking about wrestling wise. I'll take him over Morrison, 'truth, Cena, and many others. He just needs work and needs to wrestle some legit matches. Feuding with Lawler wasn't the best thing for him lol. Turning him face would give him many opportunities to have good matches.

 

[Nate DaMac]

I could see him doing a Kurt Angle-ish face role. Remember when he was the goofy milk loving face? Swagger could definitely pull of something like that, while still being a killer in the ring. Truth is, he's pretty much burnt out all he can do as a heel and he really hasn't been very successful. Turning him face couldn't hurt, it could spark his career, that's for sure. Maybe this whole time we just had him pegged wrong and he's actually a natural face? Never know if we don't try.

 

[Theo Mays]

Swagger needs some sort of spark to burst him back on the scene and a face turn could be the solution. And what better way to turn face by help partake in the ass kicking of the most hated man in the WWE, Michael Cole. Yes it is a cheap pop, but it could give Swagger the kick in the butt he needs. I for one could buy Swagger as a face. Maybe a mix of Kurt Angle and Hacksaw with his love of America. Swagger certainly has the talent in the ring and he is decent enough on the mic to get by. And with Edge's retirement it leaves an opening on the SD roster for a face. While it is likely that Christian or Kofi will fill that role Swagger is someone to consider down the road. The real question is will the WWE Universe buy into Jack Swagger as a face or will they not care enough about him to let him succeed.

 

[kidmetal24]

some but not all posters need to remember that swagger is a smackdown superstar. fueds with ziggler and shaemus would be good but not until he or they get drafted from there respective brands. cody rhodes needs to be a main eventer and swagger needs a face turn in the worst way. with edge gone, taker on his probable last year, rey only now a part time wrestler, and kane with only a few years left maybe smackdown needs faces like nobodys buisness. i look for swagger to be a face and have randy orton come over in the draft along with daniel bryan. show and kane need to pick it up too. only reason why i say orton is because he is getting lost in the mix on raw like jericho and edge were. he could put on great matches with swagger and would make a good team.

 

[Reddog1146]

I want swagger to turn face, because if it was not for the michael cole/jerry lawler feud, he would not be going to WM27 at all. that says he needs a gimmick change ASAP before he gets left behind in the dust like drew mcintyre.

 

[triple_b2k]

A face turn would be really exciting for Swagger. There isn't much else he can do with the heel character. As mentioned before, the character is burnt out. A face turn and fued with Ziggler, Sheamus or Dibiase would be exciting.

 

[Karaoke Superstar]

It seems that after the events that transpired on tonight's RAW, the time tested tradition of a face turn seems to be lurking around Jack Swagger's immediate future. I am making this (my first) thread because I'm a huge Swagger mark and want to get some other people's opinions on the matter. So, without further ado, here are my 3 questions I would like to hear the IWC's responses on...

1. Do you think the setup tonight IS indeed the foretelling of Jack becoming an all American American face?

2. Do you think a face turn will help Swagger's image/career in the WWE? Maybe he'll get involved in the WHC picture again, especially due to the loss of Edge.

3. Your personal thoughts on the collegiate wrestling champion.

GO!

1. Not really. He'll get cheered if he beats up on Cole or leaves him hanging but the real faces of the match are JR/King. Next night he'll probably be a heel again.

2. No I don't. I'll admit I've never seen him as a face, but if it's anything like I image he should stay heel. If the crowd is mostly indifferent to him as a heel, becoming a face won't help much.

3. He has good size, moves, and legit credentials. Other than that he just doesn't interest me much.

 

[ultramattman]

No way would Jack Swagger work as a face. He has the look, size, and demeanor of a true heel. He just has that smug, punchable face. Most importantly, the lisp would completely sink him as a face - as a heel, it just serves to make people hate him even more.

I think Swagger is a situation where the booking really did hurt him. They never should have put him in a program with Big Show - it negated Swagger's two best assets, his size and grappling ability. Then they put him with Rey, an ideal opponent, and the feud lasts for one PPV match.

I think what Swagger needs is an IC or US title run where he can work with smaller wrestlers and take advantage of his athleticism. But a face turn would never work. He can get back to being hated, but he could never be loved.

 

[Hazardous]

Before I begin, YES I'm aware that Jack is a Smackdown Star, this is in the RAW section, because I'm basing it on if he were to stay on RAW after Extreme rules. It happens from time to time. Also the US title is on RAW.

Besides this Cole/Lawler stuff, Swagger hasn't been relevant since his short title run. Well I don't know why, but I like Jack. He has the skills to go far, just is not working well as a Heel. So IMO the thing that can help his career is:

At Extreme Rules, he screws Cole over. Costs his team the match, and helps JR and King win the match. The next night on RAW, He comes out and cuts a promo on how annoying Cole is, blah blah blah. Then say's this is the USA, and he wants to bring the US title back home. Calls out, and starts a feud with Sheamus. Those two could put on damn good matches, if given the time to do so. DB doesn't need the title, he's popular enough that they could throw him in anything, and people will cheer. For Jack, I feel that a Face turn is due, as well will help his career out lots.

Would it work? Got a better angle for him?

 

[Decarow]

I like it, but the story isn't that original. However we haven't had that "American Hero" in the WWE for a while. I personally have been saying that Jack needs a face turn for some time now. His title reign wasn't too short, but it was short enough to be forgettable. I would like him to stay on SD and use that storyline against Del Rio though. It'll be like Guerrero/Angle back in '04, but the roles reversed.

Also, side note. Why was he in the battle royal tonight? I understand that they needed people to fill the spots, but he's already in a match at Extreme Rules. I know I'm thinking too much into it, but could this mean things to come?

 

[thegreekhero]

I, too, am a big Swagger fan. I would love to see him as face.

He can have an AWESOME fued with Sheamus over the U.S. Title. It would be like a whole USA/Ireland rivalry. Swagger can explain that the U.S. Title belongs to the All-American American. Just a quick idea off the top of my head.

 

[Shadowbladez]

I think Swagger could be a really interesting face, especially if he was feuding with guys like Sheamus, Ziggler and possibly a few matches with Bryan. I think he should go after the US title and simply turning on Cole should be enough to turn him into a more than decent face.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Meh, stuff like this generally only works if they are over in the first place. Getting over as a face is far more difficult than as a heel, so if they havent gotten him to connect with the crowd as of yet, it sure as shit wont come with a face turn.

Doing so while kicking the shit out of Micheal Cole is sure to be the best way to do it, but I still dont have any confidence in it at all.

 

[Notorious718]

I've always been unsure how Swagger would be able to get over as a face but if he were to turn on Michael Cole and beat the hell out of him (which everyone wants to see) then I can easily see him getting over with the audience. That said, at this point, a face turn couldn't hurt him. He's already been a heel ever since he made his debut and he's kinda fizzled out since he lost the world title. As mentioned earlier like Kurt Angle, I'm sure he can play the funny guy while being a beast in his matches. Also, given the influx of heels on Smackdown, this could help balance out the roster. With Edge gone, it's really time for the show's younger talent to step up and put a spark in their careers. A face turn for Swagger could very well help put that spark in his career. We won't know until it actually happens.

 

[hollowpoint]

I can see it happening, but I don't know how well it will turn out if that is the case. Like someone said, he doesn't get any reaction as a heel now, what makes people think he will work out as a face. If you look at some of the more successful face turns, they were good if not great heels. Vice Versa. Swagger is middle of the road and partly because he's been involved with King and Cole every since the road to WM27 began. I hope that if he does turn face, he uses his in ring talent to speak for him instead of grabbing a mic. That lisp is something.

 

[EricRuthGames]

Just a thought, but has anyone here thought of the big question? Maybe he doesn't get over as a heel because he's hard to buy into as a heel. I think his size, style, and smile are enough to push the guy towards big things. Just because he isn't HATED as a heel doesn't mean that he won't be LOVED as a face. Some people are just destined to be one way or another.

Also, his lisp means nothing. To those that think he won't get over because of his lisp; I find that ridiculous. Many wrestlers have overcome natural shortcomings throughout their career, be they kayfabe or not. Rey was too short to be a superstar- Didn't stop him. Ron Simmons was black in the 70's and 80's - Didn't stop him from winning the title, Bubba Ray had the stutter - Didn't stop him from being multitag champ, Ric Flair has a slight speech impediment, and it DIDN'T stop his 40 years and a hojillion title reigns.

In summary, if your judgement of Jack's future comes from his lisp, then I suggest you take another look through wrestling history.

P.S.- Great responses so far! Glad to see so many people agree with me.

 

[hollowpoint]

Just a thought, but has anyone here thought of the big question? Maybe he doesn't get over as a heel because he's hard to buy into as a heel. I think his size, style, and smile are enough to push the guy towards big things. Just because he isn't HATED as a heel doesn't mean that he won't be LOVED as a face. Some people are just destined to be one way or another.

Also, his lisp means nothing. To those that think he won't get over because of his lisp; I find that ridiculous. Many wrestlers have overcome natural shortcomings throughout their career, be they kayfabe or not. Rey was too short to be a superstar- Didn't stop him. Ron Simmons was black in the 70's and 80's - Didn't stop him from winning the title, Bubba Ray had the stutter - Didn't stop him from being multitag champ, Ric Flair has a slight speech impediment, and it DIDN'T stop his 40 years and a hojillion title reigns.

In summary, if your judgement of Jack's future comes from his lisp, then I suggest you take another look through wrestling history.

P.S.- Great responses so far! Glad to see so many people agree with me.

It was more of a funny thing than a keeping him from progressing thing. I remember the program he did with Christian on ECW and Christian made fun of it. That's all. We he talks, it just reminds me of the Cable Guy with Jim Carey. I just wanna give him a video to help him fix it. LOL.

Look the guy is a talented wrestler. We all know that and he can be dominant if given the chance. His "natural shortcoming" is only a small speed bump and can definitely be worked through.