Well Gilbertti certainly gets a reaction (albeit mostly negative) thats what T.N.A management/agents/employee's goal. It doesn't matter what YOU (the fan) cares, it's been proven time and time again (fire russo) we get ignored. At least Vince had the balls to go in a different direction (PUNK'S WIN) when rating's got stagnant.
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Well Gilbertti certainly gets a reaction (albeit mostly negative) thats what T.N.A management/agents/employee's goal. It doesn't matter what YOU (the fan) cares, it's been proven time and time again (fire russo) we get ignored. At least Vince had the balls to go in a different direction (PUNK'S WIN) when rating's got stagnant.
lamarre2012
Dark Match Winner
If stings deal only allowed for a certain amount of dates, then why would he be put in a program that would need more time then what he had left. That's bad story telling/Booking if you ask me.
If he was injured then there could have been a segment that explained that.
When a major star in WWE gets injured in the middle of a storyline, they let you know, and make it part of the story. weird
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I Don't Like Robert Roode and i'm a fan of James Storm,in the first time that i saw then as a Tag ,i hated them,but congratulations to bookers/producers,their promo in backstage was funny and put then to feud with a "superover" Team LAX ,made they look good and the stipulation , fan's revenge, was good to settle their match in Victory Road.
The only thing that i really don't like is the fact that TNA isn't pushing Matt Morgan,his "Rough Cuts" are good and he's a American Gladiator,when he debuts ,TNA should push Matt cause will be a great chance to promote themselves and matt morgan
The only thing that i really don't like is the fact that TNA isn't pushing Matt Morgan,his "Rough Cuts" are good and he's a American Gladiator,when he debuts ,TNA should push Matt cause will be a great chance to promote themselves and matt morgan
darkpenguin
Dark Match Winner
Ok totally off topic but one of the comments on the vid made me laugh...
"The saddest part is that Misutero has more moves than John Cena"
FromTheSouth
You don't want it with me.
Then what would I be if I said that you should be ashamed of yourself for not trying your best to win no matter what your record. Or that you should ashamed of yourself for letting a million measly (to the Cowboys, who are worth over a billion dollars) dollars get in the way of putting the best team on the field so that your fans get their money's worth. That would be like having a chance to sign Booker T, but instead trying to save money and signing Disco Inferno.
Seriously, what are you talking about? I don't read your blog, or whatever "column" because I honestly don't care. I mean the posts I've read in here by you are pretty non-sensical. Most of the time I just think you think if you weren't involved or didn't think of it, it was a bad idea. You might be the ultimate schmark. Someone's a schmuck if they think they know more than you? How dare you contradict the great Disco!!!! LOL, there's a reason you weren't in the nWo. It's because you were comic relief and non-compelling. Honestly, I thought it was a gimmick, but you are, in fact, a jackass. I'd rather accompany Michael Hayes into Compton than watch you have a seizure and call it wrestling.
And what are you saying there are no top guys anymore? I think it's clear that HHH, Cena, Undertaker, etc. are the top guys. Fuck ratings. There are like 400 new channels now that didn't exist in 1999. I know you want to defend your era. Wait, it wasn't YOUR era. The era you jerked the curtain in, but you sound like a bitter 1972 Dolphin. The Patriots would have kicked their asses, just like the curtain jerkers of today are a million times more compelling and entertaining than you ever were.
Can Alex Wright write your column. He's carried you so much, I figure it would be right up his alley.
Stop attacking the fans. The schmucks on this site are the ones that buy the DVDs. Piss them off and you won't get your 23 cent royalty checks that pay your alimony to that transvestite you married in 99, you know after your fiften min....seconds were up.
Is it that hard not to condescend? Well, it isn't hard for me either. They weren't asking you what Roode and Storm had to do with each other. They were asking you why you keep putting your best players on the bench. Storm and Roode are two of the only guys on your roster that WWE MIGHT give some run to. That means that they are anti-Discos. They are talented wrestlers, talented talkers, and smart match psychologists. Losing a tag title feud is doing nothing for their careers. If Sting was limited, then why did you have Storm hit him with the beer bottle anyway? So they could yell at each other. Is that how pro wrestling settles arguments? Even WWE will pay off Jamie Noble and Kane instead of leaving it hanging. If Sting was willing to put him over it would have done wonders for him. Randy Orton listing people he's beaten gets him more heat than anything else he does, so why not use the same logic for Storm. He's an asshole heel who brags about big wins. Does that not sound like a tried and true formula for heat. Stop trying to be innovative when you can't pin down the basics, like blowing off feuds and not getting your top draw hurt every other show. I love TNA, but every time you breathe it makes me consider whether it's your product of my love of wrestling.
Stop taking credit for the invisible man too. Japan did it and you said to yourself, "Self, let's say that was my idea because unlike my ideas it went over somewhere."
gg inferno
Pre-Show Stalwart
you need to read everything thoroughly before you respond. i and probably everyone else that reads this knows you skimmed over things and responded. that is why your post is loaded with inaccuracies.
Which parts of the post are inaccurate. He seemed to quote you at every turn.
I don't like the fact you flame people saying thier wrong,and don't enlighten us. It just show's that any kind of criticism to GG or RUSSO is met with the attitude of a small child plugging his ears.
FromTheSouth
You don't want it with me.
So you have no answer?
Fine, let's make my post a starting point.
1. Do you really think you should insult the IWC when they sustain the company that pays you?
2. What exactly are you responsible for? What angle have you booked?
3. What makes you think you know how to generate ratings? You didn't as a character, and you don't as a booker.
I grant that you know more than I do about what goes on backstage at a show, but I think we all know better than you what is more entertaining to a fan. You're in the business and are too busy being innovative to blow off feuds and make new stars. Kaz is a mannequin on the mic and you push him, yet Roode and Storm are in a useless tag team. Christian is one of the top three all around guys on your show and he is in a useless tag team.
Before you tell me what I did, get a fucking clue. You sucked as a wrestler, you suck as a blogger, and I bet you're the least respected booker in the room. Let me write. As a warehouse manager I improved productivity. As a bartender I brought in clientele. As a manager I beat performance goals. As an account executive I made my clients more than the market average. I can improve ratings.
Instead they hired you....The human bathroom break as a performer. A joke of a blogger, and someone who stole the invisible man idea and took it as his own.
Fine, let's make my post a starting point.
1. Do you really think you should insult the IWC when they sustain the company that pays you?
2. What exactly are you responsible for? What angle have you booked?
3. What makes you think you know how to generate ratings? You didn't as a character, and you don't as a booker.
I grant that you know more than I do about what goes on backstage at a show, but I think we all know better than you what is more entertaining to a fan. You're in the business and are too busy being innovative to blow off feuds and make new stars. Kaz is a mannequin on the mic and you push him, yet Roode and Storm are in a useless tag team. Christian is one of the top three all around guys on your show and he is in a useless tag team.
Before you tell me what I did, get a fucking clue. You sucked as a wrestler, you suck as a blogger, and I bet you're the least respected booker in the room. Let me write. As a warehouse manager I improved productivity. As a bartender I brought in clientele. As a manager I beat performance goals. As an account executive I made my clients more than the market average. I can improve ratings.
Instead they hired you....The human bathroom break as a performer. A joke of a blogger, and someone who stole the invisible man idea and took it as his own.
BallsBallsBalls
Dark Match Jobber
Hey Glenn, I know a way for you to make some good money. Post an ebay auction where the winner gets to come hang out with you for the day. Start the bidding high and have your friends bid to raise the price then when it's about time for the auction to close, I can pretty much bet the farm that Marty will come out of nowhere to outbid everyone thus being the winner with mucho dinero going in your pocket. Just a thought.
JohnnyWrestledude
Dark Match Jobber
This post is addressed to the man himself and I hope i don't get flagged for it but WTF anyway. Disco, you are right way more often than you are wrong. I've had the pleasure of asking you a few questions and you have replied in a timely manner each time. While I do disagree with some things you say, and you do kind of give yourself what might be considered "too much credit", I think that you and TNA are doing pretty good. I don't know how much booking you are involved in, but TNA could improve in storyline development. I know you'll probably say I don't know what I'm talking about and you may be right, but If you have any power to change anything around TNA, I humbly suggest that one thing. I don't think it's neccessary to have every member of the roster on every show in order to justify their salaries. Maybe devote a bit more time to the important story lines?? Again just sayin.. Kudos to you and TNA for making what in my opinion was and still is a pretty good show! P.S. I'd like to hear you debating on Wrestlezone radio again, you are absolutely entertaining and obviously know the business we all love so much man!!
Marty2Hotty
Getting Noticed By Management
I actually wouldn't mind bidding on an eBay auction to meet up with Jeff Jarrett just to talk him into letting Glenn and Vince write. I dont think Glenn will have much power, but if he can get me a meeting with Vince, Jeff, and Dixie, that'd be cool.
I wouldn't bid high though and if the starting bid goes high, I don't think an IWF would bid very much either because they probably don't pay for any of the wrestling PPVs, lol
What's with that poster bashing both Russo and GG saying they don't listen. Russo is not even here to defend his case and he hasn't done an interview in a couple of years.
As long as there are ignorant people on the IWC spewing their opinions as to "why this business is down", wrestling will never get back.
I admired Eric Bischoff because he had the balls to do shit that the critics and "die hards" absolutely hated: ie: giving away wwe's results on Nitro, going 2 hours live AGAINST Raw when everyone thought it was insane, publically acknowledging the competition and even doing ruthless shit like throwing the women's title in the garbage, and making 7 ppvs per year, then 10, then 12
WWE obviously copied all the tactics he used afterwards.
I admire Vince Russo for pushing the envelope and REALLY making the show fit the demographic of 18-34. TNA is okay but if anybody thinks that the show we're seeing is reaching for that same demographic that the Attitude Era went for, they're out of their mind. TNA still bleeps out the words "bitch" and "ass" for crying out loud, although a few of the wrestlers have said the word "shit" which is an improvement.
I don't like it when people say TNA is going for that demographic when there is (for the most part) nothing on the show that goes for 18-34. At most, they have a few wrestlers blade every now and then.
WWF ATtitude encompassed everything that the spike tv 18-34 demographic would enjoy watching on an entertainment basis. this includes the loud mouth swearing austin, DX and their antics, Sable and exposing her breasts - Marc Mero being the guy pissed off, Austin vs McMahon, crazy gimmicks like Val Venis, The Godfather, Sexual Chocolate.... They even had a segment where Yamaguchi San chopping off Venis' dick. You never knew what was going to happen and Russo would consistently push the envelope to the point of people noticing and talking about wrestling
"DID YOU WATCH LAST NIGHT'S RAW?"
How is TNA and WWE going to do that with what they're doing now?
Bischoff on an interview, (and I encourage you to read the write up i did that was moved from here to the Indy section for some reason) that it wouldn't be a good idea to go up against Raw for TNA>.. he bashes TNA's 1.0 rating (after acquiring sting, angle, christian 2 hours, primetime) as usual..
but said it would be a good tactic, strategy to go against Raw becasue the fans are desperately wanting good competition.
Some think it'll be suicide, whereas I think in the long run, the audience will only increase for BOTH companies once it occurs. Maybe start one hour before.
Bischoff said on that recent interview, that you would need a vision, creativity, strategy in order for that to work.. and didn't think TNA can do it. But he does think it's a good idea if there is a vision.
I wouldn't bid high though and if the starting bid goes high, I don't think an IWF would bid very much either because they probably don't pay for any of the wrestling PPVs, lol
What's with that poster bashing both Russo and GG saying they don't listen. Russo is not even here to defend his case and he hasn't done an interview in a couple of years.
As long as there are ignorant people on the IWC spewing their opinions as to "why this business is down", wrestling will never get back.
I admired Eric Bischoff because he had the balls to do shit that the critics and "die hards" absolutely hated: ie: giving away wwe's results on Nitro, going 2 hours live AGAINST Raw when everyone thought it was insane, publically acknowledging the competition and even doing ruthless shit like throwing the women's title in the garbage, and making 7 ppvs per year, then 10, then 12
WWE obviously copied all the tactics he used afterwards.
I admire Vince Russo for pushing the envelope and REALLY making the show fit the demographic of 18-34. TNA is okay but if anybody thinks that the show we're seeing is reaching for that same demographic that the Attitude Era went for, they're out of their mind. TNA still bleeps out the words "bitch" and "ass" for crying out loud, although a few of the wrestlers have said the word "shit" which is an improvement.
I don't like it when people say TNA is going for that demographic when there is (for the most part) nothing on the show that goes for 18-34. At most, they have a few wrestlers blade every now and then.
WWF ATtitude encompassed everything that the spike tv 18-34 demographic would enjoy watching on an entertainment basis. this includes the loud mouth swearing austin, DX and their antics, Sable and exposing her breasts - Marc Mero being the guy pissed off, Austin vs McMahon, crazy gimmicks like Val Venis, The Godfather, Sexual Chocolate.... They even had a segment where Yamaguchi San chopping off Venis' dick. You never knew what was going to happen and Russo would consistently push the envelope to the point of people noticing and talking about wrestling
"DID YOU WATCH LAST NIGHT'S RAW?"
How is TNA and WWE going to do that with what they're doing now?
Bischoff on an interview, (and I encourage you to read the write up i did that was moved from here to the Indy section for some reason) that it wouldn't be a good idea to go up against Raw for TNA>.. he bashes TNA's 1.0 rating (after acquiring sting, angle, christian 2 hours, primetime) as usual..
but said it would be a good tactic, strategy to go against Raw becasue the fans are desperately wanting good competition.
Some think it'll be suicide, whereas I think in the long run, the audience will only increase for BOTH companies once it occurs. Maybe start one hour before.
Bischoff said on that recent interview, that you would need a vision, creativity, strategy in order for that to work.. and didn't think TNA can do it. But he does think it's a good idea if there is a vision.
Shadowmancer
I am The Last Baron
Yeah Marty it was moved to the general section as well. That write up was talking about Wrestling in General on the part of Bischoff. So it makes sense in the General section. I will say why the business is down when I feel like it and I do have a good idea of why it is down and it is not the usual reasons of Russo and Older talent holding down younger talent. And Marty Since when has Val Venis been a crazy Gimmick? It is a different extension of the Ravishing Rick Rude gimmick.
lamarre2012
Dark Match Winner
I think you just made everyone's point on booking. Glenn was booking WCW the year they sucked the most and the year they were sold to WWE.
Great job Glenn
lamarre2012
Dark Match Winner
and for the record,for the 12 weeks in 2001 that Glenn was "booking" for WCW they averaged a 2.3 rating.
During that same 12 week period WWE had an average 4.9.
Ouchies Glenn
During that same 12 week period WWE had an average 4.9.
Ouchies Glenn
Marty2Hotty
Getting Noticed By Management
shadowmancer, the bischoff interview - at leats the parts i quoted - primary comprized of his views on Russo, TNA, quarterly ratings "analysis" on TNA's 1.0 show and i thought it'd be good discussion as many people online also pick apart the quaterly ratings of a 1.0 show..
As for Val Venis.. it wasn't rick rude at all.. he was a pornstar..
Think about it.. a wrestling show taht used to cater to children - when Val Venis, the pornstar, and The Godfather, the pimp talking about Hos, came out.. it was clear that they were trying to gain a more adult audience.
TNA does the occasional blading.. I liked the Sting trying to "save" Abyss storyline back in the day. The Joe/Nash one, although done before, is somewhat interesting. but they need some big angle like nb vs millionaires, powers that be.. something to really get people wanting to watch the next week.
As for what Glenn booked, I listened to his interview a long time ago. When Russo left during his second run in about June 2000 i think, Glenn said he helped come up with some of teh Positively Kanyon vignettes, Storm's "if i can be serious for a moment" canadian gimmick, and the idea of Tank Abbott joining 3 Count (which i found absolutely hilarious)
I'm guessing his poser gimmick with the animals was kinda his idea as well...
And to the genius who made that ludicious quote about ratings.. you're a genius.. not..
you're talking about ratings at a time where the WWF already destroyed WCW due to the attitude era (Russo) and they were just going off teh overrun. WCW - nobody talked about them anymore. It would have needed like 1-2 years straight great TV to get the eyeballs back in WCW>
WWF Attitude when RUsso started writing had low 2s as well.. imo, the quality of programming was better.. but WCW were doing 4s. it took over a year, the tyson publicity to really seee a diff in the raitngs
As for Val Venis.. it wasn't rick rude at all.. he was a pornstar..
Think about it.. a wrestling show taht used to cater to children - when Val Venis, the pornstar, and The Godfather, the pimp talking about Hos, came out.. it was clear that they were trying to gain a more adult audience.
TNA does the occasional blading.. I liked the Sting trying to "save" Abyss storyline back in the day. The Joe/Nash one, although done before, is somewhat interesting. but they need some big angle like nb vs millionaires, powers that be.. something to really get people wanting to watch the next week.
As for what Glenn booked, I listened to his interview a long time ago. When Russo left during his second run in about June 2000 i think, Glenn said he helped come up with some of teh Positively Kanyon vignettes, Storm's "if i can be serious for a moment" canadian gimmick, and the idea of Tank Abbott joining 3 Count (which i found absolutely hilarious)
I'm guessing his poser gimmick with the animals was kinda his idea as well...
And to the genius who made that ludicious quote about ratings.. you're a genius.. not..
you're talking about ratings at a time where the WWF already destroyed WCW due to the attitude era (Russo) and they were just going off teh overrun. WCW - nobody talked about them anymore. It would have needed like 1-2 years straight great TV to get the eyeballs back in WCW>
WWF Attitude when RUsso started writing had low 2s as well.. imo, the quality of programming was better.. but WCW were doing 4s. it took over a year, the tyson publicity to really seee a diff in the raitngs
lamarre2012
Dark Match Winner
I don't think many watched WCW in 2001, that's the point.
Sure the cruiserweights were great but it's not something that's going to bring in droves of people.
There needs to be something (compelling serialized storytelling) that pulls the viewer into the the wrestling match. Cool looking moves alone will not do it.
The problem I have with Glenns philosophy is he treats the wrestling part of it like he's embarrassed by it. So it gets buried behind shitty skits.
And part of the problem is there are very few wrestlers today who can tell a compelling story in the ring. It's almost a lost art form.
Oh and Tank Abbott sucked in fake fighting and real fighting.
If you didn't watch WCW in 2001, then how do you know the booking was bad? That would mean that the new and old ECW booking was even worse, since they averaged 1.0. Disco was the one who did Lance Storm's boring gimmick. Can you say it was bad idea? I don't think so, considering that Lance Storm used the same one in WWE.
Disco isn't embarrassed by wrestling, he just says that it doesn't draw, and you even admit it! Skits are done to put over characters, like ECW did with Austin and bWo, as well as WWE with the attitude era. Also, WCW in 2001 rarelly even had skits.
WCW buyrates 2001
0.15
0.17
0.10
Must have been the "great" booking that produced those outstanding numbers.
http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wcw/wcwppvbr.htm
0.15
0.17
0.10
Must have been the "great" booking that produced those outstanding numbers.
http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wcw/wcwppvbr.htm
lamarre2012
Dark Match Winner
You silly goose, just because WWE does something doesn't mean it's good.
And ECW or TNA have never had 5.0 ratings. Also WCW on TNT at 9 was a lot more accessible then ECW at 10 on SCI-Fi. So for WCW to having once been there and then end up in the low 2's is sad. And I only brought it up because Glenn's booking in WCW was being praised.
I didn't bring up ECW you did, so I'm not defending ECW.
Great for Glenn if he came up with Lance Storms "boring gimmick". Though I don't recall watching wrestling to see where that storyline was going. I think lance storm is a fantastic wrestler. I loved watching him wrestle, but there was no emotional investment there. Now imagine Lance storm being involved in a good storyline, but still allowed to have great matches.
My point is don't sacrifice good wrestling for storytelling and vice versa. There's a delicate balance. The storytelling needs to elevate the wrestling not overshadow it or hide it.
I think Glenn probably feels the same way, he just thinks he's better at it then he really is.
And saying i didn't watch WCW in 2001 means I checked out what they were doing but I always went back to RAW and ended up staying there. It's kind of the same deal with TNA, except worse because because I don't even see what there doing I just end up watching The Office. though right about now I'm going watch an episode of impact, I do this a few times a year to see if anything pulls me in. I'll let you know how it turns out.
<<<<Spoiler Alert>>>>>
I'm still not gonna be a fan
lamarre2012
Dark Match Winner
So, just watched the impact with Kevin Nash and Booker T in the main event.
The show isn't what i'd call bad. I can definitely see what they're going for which isn't all that bad. The problem is the poor execution.
You can absolutely tell where the creative team thinks something should be getting over huge by listening to Tenay and West shout about it. If only the material was connecting to the fans the same way. I didn't hear that much of a change in the crowds reaction through out the show especially during the "main event" (which was actually more of a match then I expected).
some of the backstage segments were to long for what info they were trying to get over. Why have the Macho Man segment backstage if you're going to have another one on the other side of the break. One would have been fine.
The World X cup match, while technically a good wrestling match but was a waste of time. That's the kind of shit that WCW would always pull. Make these great wrestlers go out and put on a 5 star match so you can say you have wrestling on your show but don't give them any angles or something to help connect to the crowd with. Then your "main event" guys just eat up show time with backstage skits and no in ring work.
I want to see where the Christian angle goes just to see how they handle it. I have a feeling they'll blow it.
The production of this show is terrible. I can't stand the voiced over ads for feuds. The MTV shaky cam. Speaking of MTV, I like how it's now MTV's Tough Enough, yeah that's why Matt Morgan wanted to do it.
I hate the announcing, hey Don West turn it down a few notches or go back to selling Mark McGwire rookie cards. Not everything that's happening is so amazing you have to yell about.
I think TNA's top priority should be to get this show on the road into arena's. They don't need to be live but get this thing out of the friggin' studio. It's hurting the product. Get rid of the two entrances it's too gimmicky.
They just need to get more people into the shows so it can be a bigger product.
Wrestling is suppose to be larger the life ,so to speak, and this show just comes off as small time even though it's trying to convince you and itself that it's more.
It's weird I just watched the show and I'm already forgetting stuff about it. The same thing doesn't happen to Raw for me
The show isn't what i'd call bad. I can definitely see what they're going for which isn't all that bad. The problem is the poor execution.
You can absolutely tell where the creative team thinks something should be getting over huge by listening to Tenay and West shout about it. If only the material was connecting to the fans the same way. I didn't hear that much of a change in the crowds reaction through out the show especially during the "main event" (which was actually more of a match then I expected).
some of the backstage segments were to long for what info they were trying to get over. Why have the Macho Man segment backstage if you're going to have another one on the other side of the break. One would have been fine.
The World X cup match, while technically a good wrestling match but was a waste of time. That's the kind of shit that WCW would always pull. Make these great wrestlers go out and put on a 5 star match so you can say you have wrestling on your show but don't give them any angles or something to help connect to the crowd with. Then your "main event" guys just eat up show time with backstage skits and no in ring work.
I want to see where the Christian angle goes just to see how they handle it. I have a feeling they'll blow it.
The production of this show is terrible. I can't stand the voiced over ads for feuds. The MTV shaky cam. Speaking of MTV, I like how it's now MTV's Tough Enough, yeah that's why Matt Morgan wanted to do it.
I hate the announcing, hey Don West turn it down a few notches or go back to selling Mark McGwire rookie cards. Not everything that's happening is so amazing you have to yell about.
I think TNA's top priority should be to get this show on the road into arena's. They don't need to be live but get this thing out of the friggin' studio. It's hurting the product. Get rid of the two entrances it's too gimmicky.
They just need to get more people into the shows so it can be a bigger product.
Wrestling is suppose to be larger the life ,so to speak, and this show just comes off as small time even though it's trying to convince you and itself that it's more.
It's weird I just watched the show and I'm already forgetting stuff about it. The same thing doesn't happen to Raw for me
Who cares whether you think it is good or not? If it does high ratings, then it works. I mean, isn't that the whole basis of Glenn Gilberti being a bad booker in WCW: ratings?
Disco wasn't the only booker there in 2001, there were many of them. And how can you blame him for the shape of WCW in 2001 when fans started to fade away in early 1999? Not to mention that the production values were crap compared to when they were doing 5.0.
Lance Storm was more over in WCW with that gimmick than anywhere else. And are people really going to tune into Nitro just to see what Lance Storm is up to? How can you have good storyline with a guy who had no charisma? But that was the genius of Disco: he saw how boring Lance Storm was, so he decided to run with that. Interestering characters make a storyline good. That's why guys like Shelton Benjamin or Charlie Haas can't have a good storyline now.
Was there really any "good wrestling" during the attitude era? The nWo was drawing money in WCW, was it for the wrestling?
lamarre2012
Dark Match Winner
Why must it always come back to the attitude era? Did you know that there was wrestling before and after that.
That era was based on nostalgia, beginning with the NWO (which in my opinion was one of the things that ultimately brought WCW down). All those kids, who use to watch wrestling then stopped because they were to old for it, came back because of all the familiar faces. Then you had all the people who still watched WWF get pulled in thinking that there was going to a WCW/WWF crossover. and to top it all off WWF decided to gear themselves toward adults. So all of a sudden you get this influx of audience and the ratings shoot through the roof. It was a fluke. It was something that will probably not happen again.
It was like a perfect storm.
the ratings that WWE get now (after the wrestling boom) aren't bad, there actually better then before it, but everybody wants to get back to the glory days. Ain't happening, I don't care who you are and what you try.
Also Stop trying to be everything to everyone.
Not everybody likes wrestling or will like it.
Fuck them.
How about taking care of the people that do like it.
And I'm not blaming Glenn for all the horrible things that I see in TNA/WCW. But when you give shitty examples of his apparent Genius, then I'm gonna call you out. Jesus..I like lance storm and that gimmick was fine but to call it genius is just ******ed.
That era was based on nostalgia, beginning with the NWO (which in my opinion was one of the things that ultimately brought WCW down). All those kids, who use to watch wrestling then stopped because they were to old for it, came back because of all the familiar faces. Then you had all the people who still watched WWF get pulled in thinking that there was going to a WCW/WWF crossover. and to top it all off WWF decided to gear themselves toward adults. So all of a sudden you get this influx of audience and the ratings shoot through the roof. It was a fluke. It was something that will probably not happen again.
It was like a perfect storm.
the ratings that WWE get now (after the wrestling boom) aren't bad, there actually better then before it, but everybody wants to get back to the glory days. Ain't happening, I don't care who you are and what you try.
Also Stop trying to be everything to everyone.
Not everybody likes wrestling or will like it.
Fuck them.
How about taking care of the people that do like it.
And I'm not blaming Glenn for all the horrible things that I see in TNA/WCW. But when you give shitty examples of his apparent Genius, then I'm gonna call you out. Jesus..I like lance storm and that gimmick was fine but to call it genius is just ******ed.
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