[Official] Disco Nation

[Talon_DR]

Since you cite the good and bad in everything, let's hear the good in TNA. We constantly hear about how you don't like TNA's booking or their writing whatsoever but let's take a step back and think the good things in the product. There must be something about the product you like because obviously you come back and watch the show week in and week out.

As for 35-50 year olds. I know a few 60+ year olds who watch wrestling, WWE and have done so for the past 30 years. Yes they watched the show since the 70s. Now Raw has been on TV since 1993 so 15 years. You think that the older viewers who watch the show while the product is on the down will stop watching soon. They are people too. .60 rating equals about 600,000 to 800,000 viewers give or take. These are just North American viewers. I don't know why ratings concern you anyways, TNA is making money, Spike TV is happy with the ratings and this information is the business of TNA Management not you. As a matter of fact, ratings and buyrated aren't my business either. Nobody has the full information besides for TNA, Nielson and the TV Networks. Do you work for any of them?

In all actuality MisterRob I have no problem with you. You hold a double standard like most TNA Critics, you feel a wrestling show can only run one way and unfortunately that isn't how things work.

 

[dzonewrestle1]

I have a question for Glen...is it the TNA's writing team's philosphy to give away a lot of interacting between match participants 3 days before a PPV?

1) There's the booking philosphy of keeping guys or girls apart as much as possible, so their PPV match means more. Do you know if Russo disagrees with that? However, there's also the philosphy that Russo did use in 97-99 that did work, with total mayhem every RAW that for sure sold and sold big. There's positives in both philosphies in my opinion.

On tonight's Impact, all the match participants brawled with each other at one point or another. TNA gave away Kurt Angle and AJ Styles brawling, and lots of blood out of Angle, in the main-event.

Does this really make fans want to pay $30 on Sunday now since they've already seen them brawl on this episode of Impact? I've also seen Joe & Booker brawl tons lately, why do I need to pay $30 to see them fight more when I've already seen it a lot.

What is your opinion on this Glen?

2) Also, why give away tons of weapons usage on free Impact tonight when TNA is trying to promote a weapons cage match, a weapons new jersey brawl, a last man standing match, and a chain match on Sunday?

Just wanted to get your opiniono on these two things Glen? Thanks

 

[MisterRob]

Since you cite the good and bad in everything, let's hear the good in TNA. We constantly hear about how you don't like TNA's booking or their writing whatsoever but let's take a step back and think the good things in the product. There must be something about the product you like because obviously you come back and watch the show week in and week out.

I TRY to watch the TNA product. Most weeks I'm only able to watch parts of it, and last week I even turned it off early because I couldn't watch anymore of it, but I still keep ATTEMPTING to watch it in the hopes that something will make me WANT to watch the product. The wrestling in TNA is great, no question. Its good that they're attempting to find roles for everyone, from the top of the roster to the bottom, on every episode. The Knockout division deserves praise and its great that they're being given a chance to be important and have some of the spotlight of the product, much like the X Division use to. Christian Cage is a star!

As for 35-50 year olds. I know a few 60+ year olds who watch wrestling, WWE and have done so for the past 30 years. Yes they watched the show since the 70s. Now Raw has been on TV since 1993 so 15 years. You think that the older viewers who watch the show while the product is on the down will stop watching soon. They are people too. .60 rating equals about 600,000 to 800,000 viewers give or take. These are just North American viewers. I don't know why ratings concern you anyways, TNA is making money, Spike TV is happy with the ratings and this information is the business of TNA Management not you. As a matter of fact, ratings and buyrated aren't my business either. Nobody has the full information besides for TNA, Nielson and the TV Networks. Do you work for any of them?

I use ratings, etc, to prove my arguments when I'm debating issues. It's as simple as that. Your argument could be made towards everyone that posts on these wrestling boards or any other on the internet and none of us should be concerned with the business side of things, what's your point? Whats that have to do with TNA not drawing to the 18-35 demographic?

You hold a double standard like most TNA Critics

And WWE Critics, and TNA lovers, and anyone on the boards.
I don't think a wrestling show can only run one way at all, I simply don't think the direction TNA's product has been going is good or that their shows have been good. I'm totally entitled to my opinion, as are you.

 

[gg inferno]

That was in no way my argument nor is it a defense to my argument. When the key male demographic of 18-35 is decreasing from previous years rather then increasing that's not a good sign. They're not going to reach any high numbers in the future with strictly a fan base watching of children and old men, I'll predict that much.




Your opinion isn't fact, sorry to say. If you can't prove your argument is even actually true then you have no point at all.




The fact is that you're referencing the ratings of RAW alone. RAW increased over several weeks to the 3.6 number and has now dropped to 3.4 this week. No different then TNA's fluctuation, aside from the fact that RAW actually increased this past month. ECW's rating has increased once again back to 1.5 this week. And Smackdown did a 2.4 (and again I point out that it was the highest rated network show in every male demographic from children to adults.) So yes, overall WWE is growing their audience on their separate shows and your argument is wrong.

I do hope TNA does keep improving, but I really think they need to do more to bring in that 18-35 demographic if they're going to keep improving their ratings overall and building their audience. Children grow up and at least half are probably likely to get bored with what they enjoyed as a child, or their tastes will change, and they'll be drawn to other things.. while old men are destined to die.. so without that middle audience ratings won't be rising to the heights YOU hope in the long term.

how could smackdown be the highest rated network show in every male demogrphic when there were shows last week that did 3 times as many viewers as they did? i wouild like to see that information. it makes no sense. as for your rounding up question, nobody knows exactly how the nielosen people come up with the numbers, so i don't know to what tenth of a point they rate the show to.

 

[MisterRob]

I have a question for Glen...is it the TNA's writing team's philosphy to give away a lot of interacting between match participants 3 days before a PPV?


1) There's the booking philosphy of keeping guys or girls apart as much as possible, so their PPV match means more. Do you know if Russo disagrees with that? However, there's also the philosphy that Russo did use in 97-99 that did work, with total mayhem every RAW that for sure sold and sold big. There's positives in both philosphies in my opinion.

On tonight's Impact, all the match participants brawled with each other at one point or another. TNA gave away Kurt Angle and AJ Styles brawling, and lots of blood out of Angle, in the main-event.

Does this really make fans want to pay $30 on Sunday now since they've already seen them brawl on this episode of Impact? I've also seen Joe & Booker brawl tons lately, why do I need to pay $30 to see them fight more when I've already seen it a lot.

What is your opinion on this Glen?

2) Also, why give away tons of weapons usage on free Impact tonight when TNA is trying to promote a weapons cage match, a weapons new jersey brawl, a last man standing match, and a chain match on Sunday?

Just wanted to get your opiniono on these two things Glen? Thanks

I was thinking the same thing when I tried to watch TNA Impact tonight. I thought the show did a very poor job of building interest for the PPV as many of the matches didn't even build the feuds that are happening on the PPV and others gave away far too much, in my mind. Instead of making people wait for the PPV and have the incentive to buy the PPV to see AJ Styles finally get his hands on Kurt Angle, instead AJ Styles got his hands on Angle, fought him for a great deal of the match, even bloodied him open, and then elimiated him from the match! Why would I want to buy the PPV now when the payoffs watered down and basically already happened.

I'm also curious... why risk the wrestlers in matches far more dangerous then your regular style match on free television, 3 days before a PPV? If an accidental injury took place, like what could've happened from that ladder shot Angle took, it could screw up major matches on the PPV card.. was that risk really needed when there's gimmick matches around taking place on the PPV itself?

 

[gg inferno]

Glenn, LOL, looks like another Youtube Shooter made a video about you. He goes by the name MoralVirus and yes he's a ROH Mark lol. This video is actually entertaining as he obviously put a lot of time into it with music, graphics, etc. Don't worry, it's only 8 minutes and I think you'll get a chuckle of the sheer stupidity of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqEe0SHXfso

lol. where does that guy live? columbine?

 

[MisterRob]

how could smackdown be the highest rated network show in every male demogrphic when there were shows last week that did 3 times as many viewers as they did? i wouild like to see that information. it makes no sense. as for your rounding up question, nobody knows exactly how the nielosen people come up with the numbers, so i don't know to what tenth of a point they rate the show to.

Nielsen ratings (tvbythenumbers.com)

"The first day of August brought another night of anemic numbers for the broadcast networks. You know when the CW comes in third overall, and tied for first in the 18-49 demo with an under-average performance from Friday Night Smackdown! that things aren’t looking good. CBS had the most viewers overall, and tied with NBC and the CW for the 18-49 demo lead."

During that night?

 

[Just-Dun Biased]

Glenn, LOL, looks like another Youtube Shooter made a video about you. He goes by the name MoralVirus and yes he's a ROH Mark lol. This video is actually entertaining as he obviously put a lot of time into it with music, graphics, etc. Don't worry, it's only 8 minutes and I think you'll get a chuckle of the sheer stupidity of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqEe0SHXfso

I would hate to end up like Moral. The guy over analysis's everything. He can't enjoy wrestling for what it is in entertainment! he writes a column for 411mania. Pretty much all it is, is over analysising every thing TNA does and bashing the shit through it. Moral is a example of someone taking wrestling too seriously, to the point everytime he watches it, he has to study the show and write notes. By the way Glenn, he honesty beleives he knows more about the business than you.

 

[Marty2Hotty]

I guess I'll post the knockouts spin cycle recap here as Glenn made a 10 second cameo:

27 mins long:

they talk aboutt aylor wilde. traci respects her. gail does too but "she hasn't gone through the whole lockerroom". ODB says "maybe she has!!" HAHA

ODB says she beat taylor's ass everywhere and taylor beat her ass. JB asks "how about a wrestling match"? HAHAHA

veruy well produced show

JB announces his contract has expired and he's jumping ship. He's got the new iphone!

they talk about the iphone. salinas says she has one, 'if you have $50 i'll show you a peak"
jb says, what about the phone

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exclusive footage of kurt's date with that chick in the gym.. funny stuff

Talk on big ladies. gail says more to love. JB says "hell no" to big ladies

bad dates:

Gail told a funny story when she went out on date with a bartender and literally fell asleep because she was so bored

ODB: "who dates?" LOL

Salinas is SUPER sexy

Very well packaged show. as we transition from topic to topic.;.. relevant footage is shown.. Very very entertaining and real/raw opinions from the talent

Has Samoa Joe gone too far?

ODB: "he should tell more people to F OFF" YEAH

Salinas says no. she is very sexy.. good to hear her talk

Gail says joe is feeling pressure as champ. and that he did the right thing. gail says "keep it real"

Traci says screw booker t, joe had to do what he did, etc. she's cool... reminds me of a buffer version of "Jet" from American Gladiators

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Best dressed guys in TNA:

- Traci: he likes Kaz - interesting. she says bg has a style and that kip james' style is a little wacky
-Salinas: she says Sonjay Dutt. he smells good, has good shoes, clothes match, lol
-ODB: "all i have to say is GIVE ME A SHELL YEAH" she does the Shark Boy actions. Shark Boy chants. "give me some of that"
-Gail Kim: This is hard one. She's laid back and not into the "dressed up" - she says AJ Styles, mentions Christian Cage and LAX

"Who's the worst dresser in TNA"

JB: "I WANT TO KNOW THE FACTS"

- Salinas doesnt know. Anyone that says their man purse wrong. She says Abyss - but she likes it. She sais some guys wear clothes like its the 80s
- Traci Brooks: everyone is a sharp dresser in their own way. She says GLENN GILBERTTI.
- Gail says Gilbertti as well. Traci says Christy says Gilbertti as well.

JB tells Glenn to come in.. to which he does

shirt and shorts.

- ODB's advice is "take it off".

very entertaining man. Not a cheesy-ass WWE show.

- what the hell is gilbertti doing there, lol

- They show Miss Universe footage of someone falling

I got to go now.. will finish later

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here is teh final recap:

nip slips" chants, and "no panties on" singing

after gail told a "granny panties" story, the girls chant that, lol

"Dirty LaundrY"

Shark Boy is there - he asks why rock and rave is in the laundry room. Jimmy Rave says "great acoustics in here, man" while playing their guitar hero guitars.. hilarious

"Boxers or briefs". Shark boy isn't showing "for clam sure". Jimmy rave doesn't wear either. Rock says he's wearing something but neither. Rock is wearing a sock.

boxers or briefs in man. Salinas prefers comfort so neither.

Gail says Boxer briefs. ODB says she likes the whitey tighties.

- Salinas is surprisingly sexy and entertaining. They all pull JB's pants down to end the show. This needs to be on Spike TV.

 

[gg inferno]

Nielsen ratings (tvbythenumbers.com)

"The first day of August brought another night of anemic numbers for the broadcast networks. You know when the CW comes in third overall, and tied for first in the 18-49 demo with an under-average performance from Friday Night Smackdown! that things aren’t looking good. CBS had the most viewers overall, and tied with NBC and the CW for the 18-49 demo lead."

During that night?

i'm not sure it means that night for the network, or that time slot for smackdown. but when i first read it i thought that it meant smackdown was the highest rated show for males for the week, which would be near impossible.

 

[gg inferno]

I would hate to end up like Moral. The guy over analysis's everything. He can't enjoy wrestling for what it is in entertainment! he writes a column for 411mania. Pretty much all it is, is over analysising every thing TNA does and bashing the shit through it. Moral is a example of someone taking wrestling too seriously, to the point everytime he watches it, he has to study the show and write notes. By the way Glenn, he honesty beleives he knows more about the business than you.

where does he make that asinine statement?

 

[Just-Dun Biased]

where does he make that asinine statement?

In a comment repsonse to someone. "Oh, and yes, there is a right opinion - one that builds upon correct information - and a wrong opinion - based upon ignorance or misinformation. Sorry, but Glenn's opinions are based upon ignorance and misinformation"

 

[Heartburnkid]

The MORAL kid is a sack of shit. He sits around studying the dictionary, uses a big word or two in his videos and thinks that alone validates whatever he's trying to say. The fact that the ugly motherfucker can watch and study wrestling for hours at a time also qualifies his position as an authority on wrestling I presume as well. That loser son of a bitch needs to spend more quality time with his blowup doll garnering dust under his bed than making videos with his ugly mug plastered all over youtube. Matter of fact, it should be mandatory that idiots like that sack of shit wear a paper bag over their face when making videos, or just use audio. He looks like the product of the Geico caveman's sperm mixed with a dash Michelle Rodrigues. Yea, that ugly chick.

 

[hollyric]

Hey Glenn, is it true that TNA wanted Danielson?

So, basically what the video tries to do is to have Glenn Gilberti contradict himself, to no avail. First, he talks about Glenn talking about the lost art of selling and then "contradicts" saying that nobody sells like Danielson. I think what Disco meant is that selling is something you're SUPPOSED to do in wrestling.

Then we have the "fake MMA" contradiction, where he said how can Glenn be against it if TNA did it. I don't think it needs to be spelled out, but I'm pretty sure Glenn was against the idea for that match. And I think the reason why fans liked it was because Samoa Joe won the title. Personally, I hated that match.

If people want to see a debate that I had with moralvirus on another forum about TNA a few months ago, type "hollyric" and "moralvirus" on google. For some reason, he changed his username to "Jerrod Westerfeld".

 

[gg inferno]

Hey Glenn, is it true that TNA wanted Danielson?

So, basically what the video tries to do is to have Glenn Gilberti contradict himself, to no avail. First, he talks about Glenn talking about the lost art of selling and then "contradicts" saying that nobody sells like Danielson. I think what Disco meant is that selling is something you're SUPPOSED to do in wrestling.

Then we have the "fake MMA" contradiction, where he said how can Glenn be against it if TNA did it. I don't think it needs to be spelled out, but I'm pretty sure Glenn was against the idea for that match. And I think the reason why fans liked it was because Samoa Joe won the title. Personally, I hated that match.

If people want to see me a debate that I had with moralvirus on another forum about TNA a few months ago, type "hollyric" and "moralvirus" on google. For some reason, he changed his username to "Jerrod Westerfeld".

let me clarify a few things. i think bryan danielson is really good. i just thought it would be funny to cut a promo on a guy whose gimmick was the "world's greatest wrestler." of course i knew the roh crowd would go bonkers, because they pretty much epitomize your typical internet wrestling fan, which i have always said have been detrimental to the business. i still stand by my statement that the guy needs a gimmick, but yes, tna would love to have him and he could probably rock the house with a bunch of our guys. when i made my comments about selling, i was basically referring to the roh style in general, not bryan danielson. guys like aj and christian are so good at making logic out of their matches, the mcmg's are getting better, but i think it hurts them when they go back and wrestle roh style. as for the mma style, there's simply not enough guys in this business that are good at it to try to effectively implement it. to me, you can't do mma without ground and pound, and unless guys are going to get hardway juice on their face, people aren't going to buy it. i love getting the internet marks pissed off, because it proves that if you're so upset with what glenn gilbertti says that you have to go spend the time to videotape your remarks to the world, than it pretty much makes my argument that these guys have no life, and a disturbing desire to try to make themselves famous. there might not be five people on the planet that are not in the business that know more about wrestling than i do, and that's a generous estimate, and i would doubt that guy is one of them, especially since having a podcast doesn't automatically make you credible. the bottom line is that the smart marks are the easiest to work, at least that's what i've learned since i've been on wrestlezone.com. also, the main reason tna did the mma style match with joe and kurt was because joe can do mma and kurt as a shoot is one of the best wrestlers on the planet, so in that context a victory for joe would mean so much more, and the match was in a cage, and we could do some different things to build the match up. but don't think for one second that anyone wants to see curryman put jimmy rave in a kimura on impact every thursday. they want to see him dance around and entertain, which is what pro wrestling is all about.

 

[andremt9]

I'm here only to congratulate TNA Producers & Writers(including Glenn,but i'm not sure what matches he produced) for making the PPV of The Year tonight,Hard Justice, a PPV that will be remembered for a long time as one of the bests i ever saw.

(Except for Lethal/Dutt,cause i don't care about their feud,and the crowd too & Roode becoming champion cause I hate Roode,but was an awesome match)

Keep it up TNA & Disco!

 

[finoj05]

- TNA is doing very well financially, and not only are they profiting, but they have begun to pay back Panda Energy for the millions of dollars they invested in the company during its first 5-years.

- Last week there was more internal animosity towards the creative team than ever before. There were complaints about too many stipulation and weapons matches for no reason, and also complaints about too many super hero segments with the Prince Justice League. Most feel that even with all of the internal complaining nothing will change. There are lots of complaints that Joe is being booked as a whining complainer instead of the strong face champion that he was.

- There are some in management were that feel the only reason the talent was so mad at creative was because they did a three-day house show run before the two days of TV.

- Regarding Sting's future, Vince Russo wants to turn Sting heel because it would be a double swerve. Russo and Sting met at the Victory Road PPV to discuss this, but at the end of the meeting Sting was said to not be on board with the plan. They will only go through with it if Sting agrees. They have planted the seeds for AJ Styles vs. Sting already, with him calling Sting out with the belief that Styles is so popular as a face that it could help in turning Sting.

- Mike Weber has been hired as the new Vice President of Marketing. He worked with WCW and WWE at points in the 90's, including being WCW's PPV guy before moving onto the Monster Trucks tour after WCW folded.

Credit: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

The Non-bolded statements are great news for TNA. They need somebody with a different approach in the marketing department and hopefully Weber brings that. The news they are doing awesome financially is also great to hear.

The bolded stuff currently, whether its accurate or not, is disturbing. What is true there is Samoa Joe is being booked like a whiner and not the strong face/tweener champion that he needs to be.

Turning Sting Heel is a horrible idea. It will turn the fans against Joe and possibly ruin the Bound For Glory main event. The reason Joe is getting mediocre reaction in some regions is because of his poor booking and being made to look like all he does is complain. It would have been like if in 1997, all the awesome parts of the Austin character were ditched in order to make him get mad at the politics and and whine all the time. It's just a big step back for the company.

With the turn of the character of sting lately, it makes no sense. There is no motivation for it. It just seems like they are trying to copy the WCW 1997 stuff but without a solid motivational event. I would love to see AJ Styles vs Sting but i wouldn't know who to cheer for. Neither guy can afford to be turned heel.

The morale is going to drop and drop because of the booking. Whether Glenn confirms this or says this is inaccurate, they don't just make this stuff up out of thin air. Nobody is going to buy a PPV for a Tuxedo match. There is a reason it is never done.

So Glenn, what is going on and what is management doing about it?

 

[jimufctna24]

yeah last night was awesome

why cant tna deliver like that more often glen when it does it blows the wrestling world away everything apart from dutt and lethal was good to great last night and angle vs aj was my match of the year with the post match aj beatdown on kurt a great example of how great a serious angle in wrestling can be when believable and based on reality

dutt and lethal are to talented for the response last night its the fact the story line is not cared about thats the problem and the crap gimmick they got put with didnt help what is your opinion glenn as last night it sounded it wasnt a few nerds more like the whole arena chanting fire russo during that one

the jarret cliffhanger and sting attacking aj have got me looking forward to impact more than i have done all year and cant wait to see where kurt is going next

 

[gg inferno]

The Non-bolded statements are great news for TNA. They need somebody with a different approach in the marketing department and hopefully Weber brings that. The news they are doing awesome financially is also great to hear.

The bolded stuff currently, whether its accurate or not, is disturbing. What is true there is Samoa Joe is being booked like a whiner and not the strong face/tweener champion that he needs to be.

Turning Sting Heel is a horrible idea. It will turn the fans against Joe and possibly ruin the Bound For Glory main event. The reason Joe is getting mediocre reaction in some regions is because of his poor booking and being made to look like all he does is complain. It would have been like if in 1997, all the awesome parts of the Austin character were ditched in order to make him get mad at the politics and and whine all the time. It's just a big step back for the company.

With the turn of the character of sting lately, it makes no sense. There is no motivation for it. It just seems like they are trying to copy the WCW 1997 stuff but without a solid motivational event. I would love to see AJ Styles vs Sting but i wouldn't know who to cheer for. Neither guy can afford to be turned heel.

The morale is going to drop and drop because of the booking. Whether Glenn confirms this or says this is inaccurate, they don't just make this stuff up out of thin air. Nobody is going to buy a PPV for a Tuxedo match. There is a reason it is never done.

So Glenn, what is going on and what is management doing about it?

i'm sorry. i think you have me mistaken for an internet stooge. why don't you tell me whats going on in the management of your company?

 

[Talon_DR]

First of all, these so called reports were rumored by online news sites not TNA which means there is a 50/50 chance of it being true.

TNA in my opinion has some problems but instead of complaining about them online why don't you do something that will affect the product, don't watch the show. Ratings will go down and management will think about whats going wrong.

It seems that most of the people who do the complaining in TNA are the uber-former WWE stars who think they deserve better and the former ROH-"Talent" who think they deserve better. Why is it guys like Eric Young, Petey Williams, Robert Roode, James Storm, Consequences Creed, AJ Styles, Fallen Angel, Samoa Joe and others aren't doing complaining.

It seems to be narrowed down to Kevin Nash, Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin and a few others. That's if the reports are indeed true.

Glen here's an idea, ask TNA to start hiring guys from NWA Anarchy as opposed to ex-WWE and ROH Stars as it seems they are more grateful to where they are.

 

[finoj05]

i'm sorry. i think you have me mistaken for an internet stooge. why don't you tell me whats going on in the management of your company?

Oh wait... so the source of real wrestling knowledge (that we should be getting our information from according to him) can't talk about it?

Well, i can't say i blame ya.

As far as your question for me, i am an independent contractor in the film/media business and thus, currently don't work for one company on a regular basis.

So, let me re-word my question. What do you think about the recent booking decisions in question and the rumors regarding a sting heel turn?

Do you think the booking of Samoa Joe currently regarding his character is good for business?

Do you think a Sting heel turn could work?

 

[FytinIrish]

"Ad i'm sorry, but Michael Phelps has got to be doing some type of new steroid that they can't test for yet, because you just don't squash records like that without performance enhancers. "

My favorite columnist just disappointed me with that comment right there. Every year he's been getting progressively better, faster, everything, and to say that he's doing it by cheating is extremely unfair, and to be honest, IMO, a little Un-American.

And if you were saying it as a joke, totally didn't see how that could come across as sarcasm. Either way, great column again. Thanks.

 

[Audioslave]

Since Disco's most likely to see it in this thread, I felt the need to respond to this: "He feels that the creative team needs a transfusion and new blood. Mind you, this is after the rating dropped for the first time after a four week uptick."

By the way, you can say "uptick" and minimize when TNA's ratings stay the same ol' same ol'.. but the fact is that they've been hovering around 1.0 to 1.1 for years and haven't seen much above that at all. Pointing out those stagnant ratings isn't a way to effectively counter someone's call for new blood in the creative team. It winds up helping to support his assertion.

 

[Audioslave]

TNA in my opinion has some problems but instead of complaining about them online why don't you do something that will affect the product, don't watch the show. Ratings will go down and management will think about whats going wrong.

Ratings just don't automatically go down if people turn off their television or switch the channel. If I'm not mistaken, they need a Nielsen box for turning it off to have any effect.

 

[Spunky]

Glenn, If you were to push a wreslter of YOUR choice who would it be?