Not again Taker

[Nascarman]

Let me start things off by saying i am a fan of the undertacker. But it is a mistake to put him in the wold Title pitcher.
Smackdown is throuing away a oppatinty to bring someone new to the title hunt. Taker has a 4 mouth vaction after wrestle mania every year. witch he has earned for being a icon. but this should take him out of the title hunt. he is a big enought name to bring a mid card mach up to glory but he drags the World title down a notch. He won't loose with out some sort of freak deal or punk cheating to set up the next PPV. in the end he always wins. it is pridatable witch makes it borning!
On the outher hand if the Undertacker was busy with a midcar guy this would make room for a new ME player. Matt hardy and JoMo are both ready. and i would much rather see one of them fight punk. but instead the writers will use the same script with the taker that thay alsways do. Punk will susfully def. his belt once maby twice then a hell in a cell match or casket match. taker will evenchly win the belt only to loose it in a stupid fluck tipe deal so he can get more time off after wreael mania. This is why no one new can get a break in wwe. this is one of the reasons the wwe ME is stale. its sad to say but wwe would be better of without Taker.
So my questin? is what would you reather see the same old undertaker fude or a new guy in the title hunt??and who would you like to see there?
as always sorry about my spelling-

 

[Kenny Powers]

When you think about it, Undertaker is the only main eventer to really feud with Punk. Undertaker will always be a huge talent in WWE, people will always come to see him. Why would you ever put him in the mid card? He has been main eventing pretty much every year for over the last 10 years. Eventually, you could have Undertaker with Morrison and Ziggler. These talents are so fresh though that no one would believe Ziggler or Morrison could go over Taker. For the time being, Undertaker needs to be in the main event with another main event caliber person.

I would personally like to see Jericho and Taker go out at it, after Jericho's tag title reign. Ziggler and Morrison have to go up against stars like Punk, Hardy, and Mysterio before they are credible enough to go for Taker. I don't think The Undertaker needs another title reign, but who else is going to get as big of a reaction since Jeff is gone?

 

[SSJPhenom]

Let me start things off by saying i am a fan of the undertacker. But it is a mistake to put him in the wold Title pitcher.
Smackdown is throuing away a oppatinty to bring someone new to the title hunt. Taker has a 4 mouth vaction after wrestle mania every year. witch he has earned for being a icon. but this should take him out of the title hunt. he is a big enought name to bring a mid card mach up to glory but he drags the World title down a notch. He won't loose with out some sort of freak deal or punk cheating to set up the next PPV. in the end he always wins. it is pridatable witch makes it borning!
On the outher hand if the Undertacker was busy with a midcar guy this would make room for a new ME player. Matt hardy and JoMo are both ready. and i would much rather see one of them fight punk. but instead the writers will use the same script with the taker that thay alsways do. Punk will susfully def. his belt once maby twice then a hell in a cell match or casket match. taker will evenchly win the belt only to loose it in a stupid fluck tipe deal so he can get more time off after wreael mania. This is why no one new can get a break in wwe. this is one of the reasons the wwe ME is stale. its sad to say but wwe would be better of without Taker.
So my questin? is what would you reather see the same old undertaker fude or a new guy in the title hunt??and who would you like to see there?
as always sorry about my spelling-

I'm sorry my man, but 'Taker is the only choice for CM Punk. IMO, Punk isn't really established in the ME picture and nothing would legitimize him more than a feud with 'Taker. Whether 'Taker ultimately wins or not, Punk will be better after this feud. I would like to see Punk steal a win or two from 'Taker, because you can't have Punk beat 'Taker straight up with a GTS and it be believable, after he has been beaten by Morrison and Hardy so much.

I have disagree with you saying that WWE would be better off without 'Taker. Hell, SD in general would lose a hell of alot if 'Taker wasn't on it. 'Taker will do what he is supposed to do and that's put CM Punk over, but I do think that 'Taker deserves a healthy title run as he has never had one before. You say that 'Taker brings the WHC down, but I happen to think that he is bigger than the WHC.

If you are a Punk fan, you should be very thankful that he is getting this opprotunity to feud with one of, if not the best, in the WWE right now.

 

[crotchknocker]

Punk is essentially a mid card guy holding a ME belt. This feud is really going to help give CM the rub he needs if they do it right. He needs at least one successful defense, whether he cheats or uses some kind of cheap tactic to get the victory, he has to look like he should be holding the belt. Taker is really the only guy on Smackdown capable of it right now, besides maybe Jericho.

Anyway I do agree though that Taker will win the belt and basically flip it to another heel, most likely Jericho. Then Jericho will feud with Edge over the title.

 

[Rebecca]

Taker feuding with Punk isn't bad, and who is to say that he'll even get the title? Last year when Taker was feuding with Edge, he got the title, but how long did he keep it? A week at best. Now that Jeff is out the picture, they need another over guy to fill his shoes, and what better person than Taker? Morrison isn't over, and Matt just turned face, then Rey is out feuding with Ziggler. They could have bought somebody else up, but Morrison isn't ready, and needless to say, Matt Hardy isn't either. Punk needs to keep his heel momentum going, and pissing off a very popular Undertaker, is the way to do it. And I agree with what somebody else has already said, whilst Punk is heel now, he can really establish himself by feuding with Taker. We've seen Morrison/Punk how many times now? The only fresh match-ups are Matt/Punk (which we have seen twice already, not that i'm complaining), and we have yet to see Punk/Taker. We can see Punk and The Deadman go at it, and then we can see Jericho/Taker at 'mania. You could even build a storyline into it, Punk finally gets one over Taker, then goes out and says he's better than Shawn Michaels - bam Jericho/Taker, Punk/Shawn at 'mania 26. Also, throw in Matt, and a returning Edge, and we got a good Smackdown show for a while. I'd also like to add, even though Taker feuds with guys for the title, he rarely gets it, and when he does, he doesn't keep it for long, not many of his reigns where exactly memorable, and if what i've read is true, Taker is all for putting younger guys over, so if anything, him feuding with Punk is a worthwhile investment.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

As has been said in other CM Punk/Undertaker related posts, CM Punk is at a stage where he NEEDS to get a rub from a legitimate main event star. With Jericho and Big Show in the tag scene, Edge out for months to come, the Undertaker is the only legitimate main eventer left on SD right now. Even if he wasn't, he's still the best choice at this point.

I doubt that Taker will bury Punk, Taker's known to open to pushing young guys. Punk will ultimately come out of this looking like a million bucks, whether he ultimately wins or loses in the feud with Taker.

This is Punk's 3rd time as WHC and he's never been what anyone could call a dominant champion. That worked well during his second reign, the idea of not having this near unbeatable, ultra badass champion like they've had on Raw for years, has been somewhat refreshing. However, I don't think the WWE can do that with Punk this time around. Punk needs to come across as a more credible champion than he did during his 1st couple of reigns and that'll happen against Taker, even if he eventually drops the belt to him.

 

[Blade]

Undertaker's match at Wrestlemania alone should warrant a main event title push whenever the hell he wants. He's not at all ruining the SD world title picture, but it's instead bringing it up a notch. Undertaker is arguably as big as Jeff Hardy and is much more established, respected and experienced.
With Edge injured and Jeff Hardy leaving, SD needs Undertaker. And that's no exaggeration. Punk has been amazing recently, but he cannot carry the show on his own, not with only Matt Hardy and John Morrison challenging him because neither of those guys are main event material. Maybe Morrison will be in a few months time, but not yet.

And Undertaker will undoubtedly take Punk to the next level. Undertaker has been told to help out alot of guys in the past, and alot of them have been average or worse... Heidenreich, Nathan Jones, Maven etc.... But every so often he's put into a feud with someone who actually has potential. And in those cases, Undertaker works his god damn ass off to make them look great. Think of what he did for Kane, Brock Lesnar and Batista. If we want Punk to be in the top echelons of the WWE, he needs this feud with Undertaker and he needs it to be good.
I mean, it's not like Undertaker will come out of the feud with the World title. It's been said many times that he doesn't want the title any more, and he's more than willing to put over young talent, especially if they're on a roll like Punk is. So there's no point in freaking out over it.

And Punk vs Undertaker is not a "same old undertaker feud."
I don't think Undertaker has ever faced someone so.... Stubborn.

 

[Slyfox696]

What I personally love is how, while the other guys in the WWE are working hard every night, and winning matches, the Undertaker can take MONTHS off, and then just get a title match anytime he wants.

Must be nice to not have to prove himself in a kayfabe sense, and still get a title match. I guess the whole "earning" a title shot doesn't apply if your name is Undertaker or Triple H.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

What I personally love is how, while the other guys in the WWE are working hard every night, and winning matches, the Undertaker can take MONTHS off, and then just get a title match anytime he wants.

Must be nice to not have to prove himself in a kayfabe sense, and still get a title match. I guess the whole "earning" a title shot doesn't apply if your name is Undertaker or Triple H.

I think you and I have views more in common with wrestling than originally thought.

First ... with Cena.

Then, with Bryan Danielson.

Now, with Taker.

I made my views quite clear in the other thread that if I was forced to cut a Main Eventer because WWE couldn't afford their salary, I would have to pick Undertaker because of the very reasons you stated. And I simply don't think he is all that great an investment given his limited schedule and lofty salary. Taking months off at a time, only to come back, get a title shot when he damn well pleases .... then goes away for another several months, and the process is repeated.

Although, in all reality, this is probably WWE's best move. I personally would like to see John Morrison somehow get the Intercontinental Title before climbing into the Main Event, as that will give him a credibility boost. So, WWE if they are wise, can use this time for that to transpire for Morrison to capture the title. Then, when Taker is done feuding with Punk, Punk can move on to feud with Matt Hardy. All the while, Morrison is getting credibility as IC Champion. Then, Morrison can lose the title, and then go into the Heavyweight Division and challenge Punk for the title.

But I strongly feel WWE needs to have all prospective Main Eventers hold a Mid-level title first, before being propelled into the Main Event. It definitely boosts credibility in the eyes of the fans.

 

[SSJPhenom]

What I personally love is how, while the other guys in the WWE are working hard every night, and winning matches, the Undertaker can take MONTHS off, and then just get a title match anytime he wants.

Must be nice to not have to prove himself in a kayfabe sense, and still get a title match. I guess the whole "earning" a title shot doesn't apply if your name is Undertaker or Triple H.

IDK about HHH, but I'm sure 'Taker didn't ask for this title shot and I'm also sure that this feud isn't about 'Taker getting a title shot. This is about establishing Punk as a Main Event guy. If you want to blame someone for 'Taker's shot then blame Hardy for leaving. 'Taker probably won't even come out as the champ and if he does, CM Punk is still going to come out looking better than he does now. This isn't about backstage politics, this about legitimizing Punk as a top guy in the WWE and tell me, who is better for that, on SD right now, than Undertaker?

 

[instantkarmaVA]

I can see using the UnderTaker as the next challenge for CMpunk. Hopefully they won't put the title on ole' Mean Mark. He's like HHH. He doesn't need gold anymore. If anything have Punk and UT wrestle but let Punk get over on UT. Then after a bunch of hard fought mathes have UT do the "I respect you" thing he did to Jeff Hardy 5 or so years back. That should raise CM's stock even more in the fan's eye. Also keep him Tweener w/ heelish tendicies.. I could care less what the do with the UT. His gimmick(s) are stale IMO.

 

[Paradox]

No, no no no... The only reason Taker is in this place is so that he can put punk over to legitimize punk. The way he did with JBL a couple years ago. Least that's the way I see it...

Wwe better with out taker? hmm... no, what are you thinking? The last match he put on was a classic. He can still go with the young guys... He's better then a majority of the of the young guys. So to say wwe would be better without him, is ridiculous.

 

[LitaTaker]

I hope the Undertaker wins the WHC, seriously he has really only once gotten a long title reign and that was back in 1997, so I hope he wins the belt eventually and can keep it for a long time atleast, but that's just me.

 

[LitaTaker]

What I personally love is how, while the other guys in the WWE are working hard every night, and winning matches, the Undertaker can take MONTHS off, and then just get a title match anytime he wants.

Must be nice to not have to prove himself in a kayfabe sense, and still get a title match. I guess the whole "earning" a title shot doesn't apply if your name is Undertaker or Triple H.

I read on a spoiler site that Vince actually told the writers to scrap all the ideas for Jeff since he was leaving and to replace him with The Undertaker. Whether Undertaker wanted the title shot, I don't know. And really Smackdown has lost a lot of it's star power IMO, with Edge, Taker and Batista gone with injuries, so I think this was a good idea since Undertaker is a much bigger draw than Morrison or Matt Hardy (who I strongly think should not be WHC).

 

[oldschool123]

This is a little bit off topic but since we're talking about CM Punk I think he is the one who shouldn't be in the title picture. I go back to something Hogan said on his DVD that a champion has to be big enough and bad enough or have something else thats special about him to be believable as a champion. To me CM Punk doesn't have that. He isn't that big and his straight-edge gimmick doesn't exactly strike fear into anybody.

 

[Slyfox696]

Wow, I see the intelligence is running rampant in this thread (looking at you Undertaker fan and LitaTaker). Perhaps I shouldn't have been as subtle as I was...you know, about as subtle as a getting hit in the face with a brick.

I'm not talking about Undertaker person requesting a title shot, I'm talking about the Undertaker CHARACTER getting the title shot. He did it at Royal Rumble a few years back, and has done it again. In kayfabe terms, what has the Undertaker done to deserve a title shot? Beat an over the hill Shawn Michaels 5 months ago? It's silly.

I wish they would at least have some semblance of pretense when giving their title shots. You know, actually make someone earn it.

 

[GOD]

Wow, I see the intelligence is running rampant in this thread (looking at you Undertaker fan and LitaTaker). Perhaps I shouldn't have been as subtle as I was...you know, about as subtle as a getting hit in the face with a brick.

I'm not talking about Undertaker person requesting a title shot, I'm talking about the Undertaker CHARACTER getting the title shot. He did it at Royal Rumble a few years back, and has done it again. In kayfabe terms, what has the Undertaker done to deserve a title shot? Beat an over the hill Shawn Michaels 5 months ago? It's silly.

I wish they would at least have some semblance of pretense when giving their title shots. You know, actually make someone earn it.

The only thing silly is you little kids on here crying around that The Undertaker is bringing the belt down when CM Punk is'n't even worth wearing that Championship title!

I see the intelligence that you have Slyfox. U should change your name to SLOWfox!

The Undertaker's match with Shawn Michaels stole the show at Wrestlemania .... the same Wrestlemania that CM Punk was in!

Let me start things off by saying i am a fan of the undertacker. But it is a mistake to put him in the wold Title pitcher.
Smackdown is throuing away a oppatinty to bring someone new to the title hunt. Taker has a 4 mouth vaction after wrestle mania every year. witch he has earned for being a icon. but this should take him out of the title hunt. he is a big enought name to bring a mid card mach up to glory but he drags the World title down a notch. He won't loose with out some sort of freak deal or punk cheating to set up the next PPV. in the end he always wins. it is pridatable witch makes it borning!
On the outher hand if the Undertacker was busy with a midcar guy this would make room for a new ME player. Matt hardy and JoMo are both ready. and i would much rather see one of them fight punk. but instead the writers will use the same script with the taker that thay alsways do. Punk will susfully def. his belt once maby twice then a hell in a cell match or casket match. taker will evenchly win the belt only to loose it in a stupid fluck tipe deal so he can get more time off after wreael mania. This is why no one new can get a break in wwe. this is one of the reasons the wwe ME is stale. its sad to say but wwe would be better of without Taker.
So my questin? is what would you reather see the same old undertaker fude or a new guy in the title hunt??and who would you like to see there?
as always sorry about my spelling-

Did you even think before you posted that comment??? Did you just say that The Undertaker drags the title down a notch ???

CM PUnk wearing the world title makes that belt look like trash! The fact that The Undertaker is even hunting down the title makes it look prestigious!

Think before you type kid!

 

[gd]

I understand that it is better to make someone earn their titles shots, but it's the motherfuckin' Undertaker. Consider the other options on Smackdown at the moment, Matt Hardy and John Morrison, I think that it is logical that Undertaker is the one that deserves the title shot.

I know it won't be much, but I'm sure he'll win some type of number #1 contender's match or Beat the Clock challenge to earn his title shot. Sure, it isn't the ideal situation for someone to be thrown into the title picture after taking months off, but the WWE really has no other option.

Undertaker is a main eventer, putting him in some mid card feud against Mike Knox or someone would make even less sense than giving him a title shot. Personally, I'm excited for the upcoming Taker/Punk program.

 

[Slyfox696]

The only thing silly is you little kids on here crying around that The Undertaker is bringing the belt down when CM Punk is'n't even worth wearing that Championship title!

What the fuck are you talking about? Did you even read my post? For fuck's sake, do me a favor. It's called reading. Top to bottom, left to right, group words together and it makes a sentence. Take Tylenol for any headaches, Midol for any cramps. *wonders how many get that*

I see the intelligence that you have Slyfox. U should change your name to SLOWfox!

Why, so you would be able to understand what I'm talking about?

The Undertaker's match with Shawn Michaels stole the show at Wrestlemania .... the same Wrestlemania that CM Punk was in!

That's great. Why the fuck does he get a World title shot because of it? What has he done, in storyline terms, to get a World title? He hasn't wrestled a single match since, he hasn't proven anything except that one match puts him out of action for five months. Why does he get a World Title shot?

I'd try to make this post easier for you to understand, but you can't slow down typing like you do speaking.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

The only thing silly is you little kids on here crying around that The Undertaker is bringing the belt down when CM Punk is'n't even worth wearing that Championship title!

I see the intelligence that you have Slyfox. U should change your name to SLOWfox!

The Undertaker's match with Shawn Michaels stole the show at Wrestlemania .... the same Wrestlemania that CM Punk was in!

So that means Undertaker deserves a title shot because he beat Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania which was four months ago. Oh yeah, he deserves a title shot. Where has he been lately?

I can see that Undertaker came back because Hardy is leaving but he doesn't deserve to be in the title picture right now. How about they guy named Morrison who beat Punk clean twice on Smackdown? I think he should be next in line for Punk's title and he doesn't win then it can be Taker's turn after he has had a good feud with a Knox or a Ziggler.

 

[Slyfox696]

I understand that it is better to make someone earn their titles shots, but it's the motherfuckin' Undertaker. Consider the other options on Smackdown at the moment, Matt Hardy and John Morrison, I think that it is logical that Undertaker is the one that deserves the title shot.

Ahead of say someone like...I don't know...Rey Mysterio? You know, the current Intercontinental champion and former World Champion? Who has won a string of title matches in a row now?

Or, the Big Show? You know, the big beast of a man who has beaten the United States champion in several shows lately?

The Undertaker, after not wrestling for months, is more worthy than the two of them?

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I understand that it is better to make someone earn their titles shots, but it's the motherfuckin' Undertaker. Consider the other options on Smackdown at the moment, Matt Hardy and John Morrison, I think that it is logical that Undertaker is the one that deserves the title shot.

I know it won't be much, but I'm sure he'll win some type of number #1 contender's match or Beat the Clock challenge to earn his title shot. Sure, it isn't the ideal situation for someone to be thrown into the title picture after taking months off, but the WWE really has no other option.

Undertaker is a main eventer, putting him in some mid card feud against Mike Knox or someone would make even less sense than giving him a title shot. Personally, I'm excited for the upcoming Taker/Punk program.

How is it logical that Taker deserves the title shot over somebody like Morrison. How many times has Taker defeated Punk? None. How many times has Morrison beat Punk since June? Twice. Morrison had good matches with Edge and Jericho while Taker is at home. I love Taker and all that but he does not deserve a title shot over Morrison based on what has gone on.

 

[LitaTaker]

Wow, I see the intelligence is running rampant in this thread (looking at you Undertaker fan and LitaTaker). Perhaps I shouldn't have been as subtle as I was...you know, about as subtle as a getting hit in the face with a brick.

I'm not talking about Undertaker person requesting a title shot, I'm talking about the Undertaker CHARACTER getting the title shot. He did it at Royal Rumble a few years back, and has done it again. In kayfabe terms, what has the Undertaker done to deserve a title shot? Beat an over the hill Shawn Michaels 5 months ago? It's silly.

I wish they would at least have some semblance of pretense when giving their title shots. You know, actually make someone earn it.

No, I understood what you were saying, no need to get nasty. But when Undertaker is above the other contenders (Hardy and Morrison), why not get right into great matches that will draw a big crowd instead of possibly good matches with wrestlers that probably won't be a big draw as in comparison. Even though Morrison-Punk was kind of good last week or 2 weeks ago. But that's just how I see it, I think Undertaker-Punk will be a good feud especially with the Hell in a Cell PPV coming up and the Breaking Point with possible submission matches. And who's to say Undertaker won't earn his legit chance in the coming weeks by beating Morrison?

 

[GOD]

What the fuck are you talking about? Did you even read my post? For fuck's sake, do me a favor. It's called reading. Top to bottom, left to right, group words together and it makes a sentence. Take Tylenol for any headaches, Midol for any cramps. *wonders how many get that*

Why, so you would be able to understand what I'm talking about?

That's great. Why the fuck does he get a World title shot because of it? What has he done, in storyline terms, to get a World title? He hasn't wrestled a single match since, he hasn't proven anything except that one match puts him out of action for five months. Why does he get a World Title shot?

I'd try to make this post easier for you to understand, but you can't slow down typing like you do talking.

Why the fuck should he not get a title shot? Becuz some dumbass pimply faced, sly marks like to sit on the internet pretending like they know how to run the WWE ???

Let's try the fact that he's been wit the WWE for almost 2 decades & is more than enough proven to have a title shot!

Who in the fuck said he was geting a title shot?? Did Vince or anybody even fucking say that he was getting a title shot. Nobody even said that he was getting a title shot.

Be thankful he's making that belt look prestigious by even going for it ... but it doesn't matter becuz MARKS like you think you know everything about the WWE so you're gonna sit her & bitch anyways just cuz your life is pathetic!

Ahead of say someone like...I don't know...Rey Mysterio? You know, the current Intercontinental champion and former World Champion? Who has won a string of title matches in a row now?

Or, the Big Show? You know, the big beast of a man who has beaten the United States champion in several shows lately?

The Undertaker, after not wrestling for months, is more worthy than the two of them?

Yes The Undertaker is more worthy than the two of them! Take a tylenol for your headaches & a midol for your cramps & deal with it kid!

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Why the fuck should he not get a title shot? Becuz some dumbass pimply faced, sly marks like to sit on the internet pretending like they know how to run the WWE ???

Let's try the fact that he's been wit the WWE for almost 2 decades & is more than enough proven to have a title shot!

Who in the fuck said he was geting a title shot?? Did Vince or anybody even fucking say that he was getting a title shot. Nobody even said that he was getting a title shot.

Be thankful he's making that belt look prestigious by even going for it ... but it doesn't matter becuz MARKS like you think you know everything about the WWE so you're gonna sit her & bitch anyways just cuz your life is pathetic!

I don't give a fuck what Taker has done in the past. We are in the here and now and Taker hasn't done anything as of late. Mysterio and Morrison both deserve title shots over him. He would probably face Punk one time and be out for another four months. If he would be in a feud with somebody else for a couple months and then challenges for the time, then I would buy into it. The way it looks now, Taker will be the #1 contender and that is unfair to Morrison and Mysterio who have actually done something as of late.