Night of Champions - No Disqualification - Triple H vs. CM Punk

[Poop Master Flex]

Agreed.

Although I wasn't a fan of the direction they went in they didn't bury CM Punk at all. A lot of people on these boards think if you lose you got buried and that's not the case at all. There were instances where Punk could have won the match if not for interference, HHH was lucky to get his sledgehammer so he won, no one got buried in the match.

I'll admit I think the storyline would have had more legs with a Punk win but that doesn't mean he was buried, he's still at the top of the card, he is in the main event at the next PPV fighting for the title, I don't know how that can be considered burying someone.

 

[justinsayne]

I only have one thought, and that's if people honestly beleive Triple H "buried" Punk, then they clearly have no idea what the hell "buried" means in wrestling. If Triple H had buried Punk, then the match would've been over in about 2 mins. after Triple H squashed the shit out of Punk, & Punk wouldn't be wrestling for the WWE title in a triple threat HIAC match in the ME of a PPV next month. Smarks just seem to want to think that Triple H buries everyone he beats, which is not the case at all. If Triple H lost to half the people that he's supposedly buried, then Triple H would just be a joke, and beating him or even going the distance and hanging with him, like Punk did at NoC, would mean nothing. The same can be said for Cena & anyone he beats (& is supposedly burying in teh process). Most fans just simply don't know what "bury" means in wrestling these days, & are just to quick to to throw it out there, just because your favorite wrestler loses does NOT mean they're getting buried.

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm with Justin. We actually needed a thread on this? Punk was in the main event of a PPV against one of the biggest names ever and kicked out of his finishing move twice (if my memory is correct). Go ahead and count how many people have kicked out of one Pedigree. It's a very short list. Adding that, a second Pedigree and a Jackknife, plus crashing through the table and you tell me how impressive it was. One of those Pedigrees was a clean one with an immediate cover and Punk kicked out. Not to mention all of the near falls Punk got as without Truth, Punk probably would have gotten a pin. I've never gotten the burial argument, as there are certainly ways to lose a match and not be buried. Case in point: Austin at Mania 13. He lost but just like Punk, certainly wasn't buried.

 

[RD_21]

We all know he didn't "bury" Punk but he didn't help him either. Well he help him by making him look strong to THOSE WHO WATCHED the PPV but in the end HHH shouldn't have won. Hear me out, I don't think that HHH should have lose and step down from COO.

What I am saying is that SINCE HHH didn't turned heel to form a mega corporate (I know the story is not completly over), what was the use of him winning and the match.

They are not heading into a big rivalry and Punk is now 0-1 vs Hunter, what was the use of it all. Punk should have win, the only reason I could have accepted HHH winning without ZERO discomfort was with an heel turn. If HHH had turn heel it would have helped Punk WAY more because he would have had an establishmeent to fight and he would be the clear face.

HHH statying face is hurting Punk face push and I know they may team together at SS with The Rock and Cena to take on team Vince and someone may turn to screw them (let's hope it's not Punk already) and it may be good, but I still think that Punk should have win and there should never put the you are losing your job because it's making it obvious. The only way they could have fight the obvious feeling was if HHH wanted to not lose his job so he made an evil alliance to be sure he didn't lose. Same way that Cena should NEVER be in an I Give Up match ever again.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Yeah Punk came away from that match looking like a fucking star. I can only really restate what's been said; It took 3 Pedigrees, multiple cases of interference, and a Jackknife Powerbomb to put him away. Not everyone gets that kind of treatment from Triple H.

You want an example of someone being buried by Triple H? Look at the match between him and Booker T at Wrestlemania 20(I think.) Triple H hits a Pedigree and after about 30 seconds, he throws his arm over Booker and gets the win. That's making someone look like they don't belong. If Punk and Hunter are to have another match somewhere down the road, Punk will go into it looking like someone who has a shot at pulling out the win.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

If 'buried' means showing inhuman strength and resistance in losing a clusterfuck of a match to one of the greatest of all time and then going on to be part of the main event championship match at the next PPV, then yes he was 'buried'.

 

[BigPoppaPunk]

I definately don't think that Punk was buried in the match with HHH. Ppl commonly mistake someone being "buried" and losing momentum in a fued. In this instance, I really think HHH winning halted Punk's momentum to some degree. But, with the stip being if HHH lost, he was no longer COO, you knew Punk had no chance of winning. Still, they did a great job of making Punk look extremely awesome and tough.

Do I think Punk could have benefited more than HHH from a win? It would have made him look unstoppable and kept his momentum high. However, if you're gonna lose, the way Punk lost is the way to keep your integrity character wise while still looking great.

 

[MetalFace DOOM]

I think the word "buried" is used way to much, people abuse that word without really full understanding. Like all most of you guys said.. Punk came out looking like a winner out of the match infact.. In my opinion he was the true winner. The man needed 3 pedigrees, interference from Miz and Truth, Kevin Nash, Jackknife, Sledgehammer to be defeated.

Punk is the hottest wrestler in the WWE right now involved in the biggest story right now.. what more do people want? Just because he lost once, doesnt take away from that. Especially in the manner that he lost in.

He made HHH look weak in my opinion, and people need to quit associating that word "buried" with HHH to much.. Its been old.

 

[The Champ]

I'm pretty sure most people are in agreement that Triple H made Punk look strong, and that people's complaints about this match have mostly come from the ridiculous Russo overbooking. Which is completely understandable. But you're right, no one can possibly claim that Punk was anywhere near buried. It took FIVE finishers to put the guy down (Truth hit his finisher on him too). Five. Plus a table spot. I mean come on, how many people kick out of four finishers, including two Pedigrees, and a table spot? Punk looked like the real deal in there.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Who in their right mind would ever suggest that CM Punk was buried in his loss to Triple H? That would make no sense whatsoever. It took a monumental effort for him to lose, including a load of outside interference. And he is in the main event of the very next PPV, after being featured prominently on every episode of RAW. There's a lot of guys on the roster who would glad accept this sort of burial.

 

[InsomGTS]

Punk reminded me of SCSA in his last match with Rock at WM. He took finisher after finisher and kept kicking out. Punk is the current toughest SOB in WWE. HHH beat Cena with one Pedigree a few years ago at NoC.

 

[Rampage Bentley]

I by no means think that Punk was buried, but c'mon, did Triple H really need to win?

Aside from the Triple H steps down stipulation (which I think only hurt the match) the logical outcome was for Punk to take the win.

And to me, I thought Triple H hitting Nash with a sledgehammer and then walking into a GTS would have flowed much better as an ending, as opposed to the awkward (IMO) finish of Triple H hitting Nash, then walking into the ring and pedigreeing Punk.