NFL to return to LA within 12-24 months

[Mighty NorCal]

So the scuttlebutt has started in advance of tonights voting that it will indeed be a consensus to send The Rams and Chargers jointly to LA.


From what I have read, there is a lot of goings on trying to work out a deal, and things look to get hammered out and finalized.


Unless something crazy happens (never out of the question) The Rams and Chargers will play in LA next season. Dayum.

 

[J.J.]

I thought the Chargers were against the idea of a new stadium in Inglewood. Wouldn't this mean they'd have to share a new stadium with the Rams?

Poor Raiders left out. The 49ers have a fairly new stadium, perhaps they can join in with them?

 

[Mighty NorCal]

I thought the Chargers were against the idea of a new stadium in Inglewood

They indeed are. But not more strongly than their desire to go to LA, and of the desire of the other owners to get them there.

Hence the projection of "something getting worked out"

Wouldn't this mean they'd have to share a new stadium with the Rams??

Indeed. See above.

 

[Trill Co$by]

This is kind of confusing really... Not so much the sharing stadium, because that's been done before (hello New Jersey!) but because of how it's too teams from the same conference. The Giants and the Jets are notorious for being the two franchises that share the same stadium. And to be fair, that's not entirely a bad thing. It creates a great rivalry when the two teams finally do play. It's NFL's version of Mets vs. Yankees (Only the Mets have different stadium than the Yanks). But at the end of the day, they're both in opposite conferences with the Giants being a marquee franchise in the NFC and the Jets a franchise in the AFC.

So how can the Rams and Cardinals work? Especially when these two teams are also within the same division. I feel as if Raiders and Cardinals should be given the LA stadium, and then have the Rams pack up and move their team to maybe LV? I'm not sure how well football would work in LV, but it would definitely be a little less confusing. Or here's an idea, how about having the Rams play in Canada?

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I just saw a picture of Stan Kroenke for the first time. Damn that guy looks like Charlie's grandpa from the old Willie Wonka. It like Charlie won the factory and grandpa murdered him, sold the factory and bought an NFL franchise.

I so want to check Al Davis' son's internet history. That dude is so creepy. He make Donald Trump's son look not so entitled.

The Chargers owner just looks like a mobster or a Jewgene (sp?). No offense to anyone out there but if you know that term you know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, I get wanting to move to LA. Paling it up with Scientologists is awesome in your box. I just don't see how the problems facing LA teams of the past are fixed now. I just don't think people will want to go to the games after a while unless the team is really good. It is still a tough place to get around, the class separation is uncomfortable, and the funds at some point will be asked to come from the public.

I'm not an expert but I think these are all legitimate concerns.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

This is kind of confusing really... Not so much the sharing stadium, because that's been done before (hello New Jersey!) but because of how it's too teams from the same conference. The Giants and the Jets are notorious for being the two franchises that share the same stadium. And to be fair, that's not entirely a bad thing. It creates a great rivalry when the two teams finally do play. It's NFL's version of Mets vs. Yankees (Only the Mets have different stadium than the Yanks). But at the end of the day, they're both in opposite conferences with the Giants being a marquee franchise in the NFC and the Jets a franchise in the AFC.

So how can the Rams and Cardinals work? Especially when these two teams are also within the same division. I feel as if Raiders and Cardinals should be given the LA stadium, and then have the Rams pack up and move their team to maybe LV? I'm not sure how well football would work in LV, but it would definitely be a little less confusing. Or here's an idea, how about having the Rams play in Canada?

Wait? What? Where did the Cardinals come from? I thought it was supposed to be the Chargers and Rams. Raiders and Chargers are in the same division but in the same division or not, the NFL will find a way to make it work.

If they can make money off it they will add a Tuesday 3:22am game to their schedule.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

This is kind of confusing really... Not so much the sharing stadium, because that's been done before (hello New Jersey!) but because of how it's too teams from the same conference. The Giants and the Jets are notorious for being the two franchises that share the same stadium. And to be fair, that's not entirely a bad thing. It creates a great rivalry when the two teams finally do play. It's NFL's version of Mets vs. Yankees (Only the Mets have different stadium than the Yanks). But at the end of the day, they're both in opposite conferences with the Giants being a marquee franchise in the NFC and the Jets a franchise in the AFC.

So how can the Rams and Cardinals work? Especially when these two teams are also within the same division. I feel as if Raiders and Cardinals should be given the LA stadium, and then have the Rams pack up and move their team to maybe LV? I'm not sure how well football would work in LV, but it would definitely be a little less confusing. Or here's an idea, how about having the Rams play in Canada?

What in the blazing motherfuck are you talking about?


The Rams and the CHARGERS are moving. The cardinals have a brand new stadium and have never been a part of this conversation at any time

 

[Mighty NorCal]

I so want to check Al Davis' son's internet history. That dude is so creepy. He make Donald Trump's son look not so entitled.

He drives a 2002 ford windstar minivan and goes to 50 cent wings night with the players at Hooters every tuesday.

So there is that.

the class separation is uncomfortable

75% of the Reason the owners had no interest in letting the Raiders go there.

Ill let everyone work out what exactly that means for themselves.

I'm not an expert but I think these are all legitimate concerns.

Foremost potential lack of interest, and that it is actually the number 17 economy in America (for instance, Oakland/bay area is number 5). LA inches closer and closer to full on shit-hole steadily.

 

[Trill Co$by]

Wait? What? Where did the Cardinals come from? I thought it was supposed to be the Chargers and Rams. Raiders and Chargers are in the same division but in the same division or not, the NFL will find a way to make it work.

If they can make money off it they will add a Tuesday 3:22am game to their schedule.

Chargers right, my mistake. It happens, I'm human... and unless you're perfect don't pass judgment.

Anyway, it's still very odd and can be very confusing. And not just for their inner division games when they play twice a year, but just because it can create some serious confusion to some people. I'd much rather it be teams from different conferences, which if it's Chargers and Rams then it would be. I just for some reason read Cardinals and got confused.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

restraining myself from ripping the OP a new one, it won't be the Rams. Kroenke our owner was part of the group that originally moved the Rams to St. Louis in the first place.

Ahhhh, one last time. Its been a great run mocking this quote over and over, but it looks like we have tied a nice bow on this.

Shame you "restrained yourself" from "ripping me a new one" on the erroneous things I was reporting in a totally unbiased and un-hostile way.


http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and...-Angeles/802b4e16-671e-4864-97b6-943115cdc4cf





Various conflicting reports have the Chargers going too. I think the delay in "deciding" is just grandstanding by Spanos to make it seem like he didn't bail on Davis and the Raiders at the first opportunity, and plus, one would think he would like to work out the best agreement possible with Kroenke....But SD really has no choice. Nearly half their revenue comes from the LA market, and the SD market is a shit sports town.


It would be downright shocking if the Chargers didn't start off 2016 in LA.



League insiders also reporting that the NFL will give a substantial loan to the Raiders to get them a new stadium built in Oakland. Some league people are saying they are actually the biggest winners here.

 

[Stormtrooper]

I have been unable to read anything about this, aside from headlines.

One thing that always got me. Where are they playing in 2016? If they're in LA they aren't in the new building as I don't recall them breaking ground yet and as such they won't have it ready until the 2017 season. Will they play at the Rose Bowl? LA Coliseum? I didn't think either venue was either willing or suitable for NFL anymore.


Either way this is a long time coming for the Chargers if they leave. And good for LA too. It's been too long for them to not have a team. I hope they stick around this time, unlike the Rams and Raiders back in the 80s.

 

[A11oftheLights]

I just want to say this

is something I could jack off to, will be one of the prettiest stadiums in the world

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

It's obviously not going to be the Raiders and Chargers anymore, but I would have one question if that did end up shaking out: How would they do season tickets for the 2 games they played each other?

The only thing I can think of is one holder gets the first game while they other gets the second. I would hope the ticket price would accommodate the loss of one game per season.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

I just want to say this

is something I could jack off to, will be one of the prettiest stadiums in the world

Why the piss would you have an indoor stadium in LA though were its sunny and 73 degrees 360 days a year


Better be retractable.

 

[Stormtrooper]

It's obviously not going to be the Raiders and Chargers anymore, but I would have one question if that did end up shaking out: How would they do season tickets for the 2 games they played each other?

The only thing I can think of is one holder gets the first game while they other gets the second. I would hope the ticket price would accommodate the loss of one game per season.

Whichever team is home has its fans. That's how the Jets and Giants have done it every 4 years. 4 years ago the Jets were home and there was controversy because they covered up the Giants references to the Super Bowl (Lombardi Trophies/etc). It was ridiculous because a JETS home game would have no such reference but Giants fans were up in arms about it because as the road team they wanted it to be their building.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

I have been unable to read anything about this, aside from headlines.

One thing that always got me. Where are they playing in 2016? If they're in LA they aren't in the new building as I don't recall them breaking ground yet and as such they won't have it ready until the 2017 season. Will they play at the Rose Bowl? LA Coliseum? I didn't think either venue was either willing or suitable for NFL anymore.


Either way this is a long time coming for the Chargers if they leave. And good for LA too. It's been too long for them to not have a team. I hope they stick around this time, unlike the Rams and Raiders back in the 80s.

I believe an article I just read stated they'll be in LA Coliseum for the next few years until the new stadium is built.

 

[BringThePain834]

I think they would be better off going to the Rose Bowl. The Coliseum, in my mind, is simply unsuitable for NFL games and needs major renovation. Went for a USC game and the whole stadium is just a mess. A game which then turned into a Bernie Sanders rally. Which that then took two hours to leave the parking lot. I sat in my car, and the people in front of me got out and walked up to see what was going on.

Just ugh.

Rose Bowl is much, much nicer.

NFL should have standards for stadiums they choose to play at. Rose Bowl has premium seating, club seats, loge boxes, suites, etc. The Coliseum has none of that.

 

[J.J.]

Well I remember the Titans and Panthers having their first season or two played at College venues. Titans played at Vanderbilt's stadium - which was ridiculously small to host a pro team. I believe Carolina played at Clemson's Stadium. If they play at the LA Coliseum - that'll help cover the over hundred million dollar renovations they've been wanting to do there.

 

[Akhilleus]

Chargers have officially filed a trademark for the Los Angeles Chargers. So I guess it's official, Los Angeles went from having no NFL team to having two in just a matter of a couple weeks. Two baseball teams, two basketball teams, and now two football teams. I don't know hockey so I can't remember if they have any other team besides the Kings. I hope the Chargers go back to their powder blue uniform. Those have always been my favorite, and I think that kinda goes better with the Los Angeles for some reason.

But damn that city has it's teams. Them and New York could probably have their own league of sports teams.

Also, there is talk of the Raiders moving to San Antonio now. I think that would be cool, because they do match colors with the San Antonio Spurs.

 

[J.J.]

NFL still has this vision of putting a team in London within the next few years, I wonder if we would see a team relocate or will an expansion team be started their. I don't know how I feel about a NFL being there but I believe it would be exciting to see how it would work over having a team overseas.

Poor Raiders - just as they're starting to get on the right track in the Post-Al Davis era; there's nothing there. There’s no football-only facility or money to build one there, either. I feel bad for Oakland.

 

[Akhilleus]

I'm really against a team in London. I don't think there is enough fan commitment for a full time team first of all. Yeah they may buy tickets to the games now when they happen once or twice a season, but a full season there? I think the effect would wear off on fans after a season or two, especially if the team is unsuccessful.

Then you have things like travel. That London team has to fly to the United States eight games a regular season. Teams have to fly into London. Then what about player interest? They would be a such a disadvantage in the free agency market, because it will just all around be an unattractive place to play for a player.

Also, no to the expansion teams. I think 32 is the perfect number for the league. In fact I wish that the NBA and MLB expanded to 32 teams as well. I like the 4 teams in 8 divisions set up that the NFL has. Besides, I'm assuming it would be two expansion teams. Now I'm bad at math, but I don't see any way to divide 34 into anything other than 2.