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NEW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION! - Keep It All In Here!!

Not sure the last time I marked out so hard. I've been a massive supporter of Bryan since he started in WWE, so seeing him finally get a run with the title is awesome and a little shocking. I'm disappointed he didn't get to do this at Mania, but I'll be happy as long as this one isn't revoked and if he can get a good run with the title. I do have to wonder exactly who he feuds with next, and since reports say Henry's hurt, it'll probably Bryan vs. Show at the Rumble. I don't know how you book that match, and how Bryan's crowd reaction will be, going against a top-level face who he basically stole the title from. A heel turn for either could fix that, but I'd like to see Bryan stay a face, at least for a bit, to see how the fans take to him. Heel Bryan will be much more entertaining to watch in the ring, so I'm not really against it.
 
I didn't watch the show, but still, it was a nice surprise to see that he had cashed in. What they need to do now is book him strong. WWE has a habit of booking Money In The Bank winners to look incredibly weak, and it never ends well.

Anyone else sensing a heel turn here? It makes perfect sense when you think about it. Why else would they have him cash in on Show instead of Henry?

If this does result in a heel turn, I'd also put money on Sheamus winning the Rumble to set up Bryan vs Sheamus at 'Mania. If not Sheamus, then Randy Orton.
 
Don't get me wrong, I like Daniel Bryan, but it was too soon. WWE hasn't build him up to be main event status. Hopefully Bryan's title reign doesn't become a fluke and looses it soon. If WWE wants to put faith in Bryan, they should let him keep the title till WM28 or at Extreme Rules putting on a clinic of matches. Have Bryan face Show on Smackdown and win one way or another. Then at the RR, have him face Barrett, Show & Randy in a fatal four way to retain. At the Elimination Chamber ppv, have him face Barrett to retain. Finally at WM 28, let him go one on one with Randy to get the win or either lose, but at the end of the match get some mutual respect from Randy. A handshake or something like that.
 
I can see why it happened, obviously, with Mark Henry's (apparent) injury. Big Show probably wasn't in line for the title anyway, so having him win then Daniel Bryan cashing in on him gives them a go-to feud, with some Mark Henry involvement, while lessening his load. Makes sense all around. It was definitely a good moment too, seeing Daniel Bryan, the indy icon, finally grab that brass ring. He has worked his ass off for years, so as a fan of his, I'm happy to see it happen and happy to see that he wasn't, in fact, the first one to lose his bid at the title.

Some people may think it's too soon and it probably is, but they can still easily legitimize Daniel Bryan with a couple of good defenses. They could play it off as him defending what is rightfully his and so on. The crowd will get behind it and when your WrestleMania is going to be carried by John Cena vs The Rock, you can afford to have Daniel Bryan go in as champion, to further test the waters. The thing is though, the WWE have to be confident in Daniel Bryan. They can't have this pan out like Jack Swagger's reign did, they have to follow it with good booking, but they also have to showcase Bryan's talents, which he has plenty of, and his readiness for his spot.

The dynamic between Big Show and Daniel Bryan will be something to watch for, as this is somewhat Big Show's fault. There's no clear cut heel or face there, but if Big Show tries to impose his will on Bryan or blame him for what happened, it opens the door for Bryan snapping and becoming the crazed submission machine he can be. There's lots of potential there and that's discounting Mark Henry's presence. As far as I know, his injury that apparently set off this title change isn't too severe, as he could have worked though it (with a lighter load, of course), so it'll be interesting to see where he fits in. If healthy enough, I can see him being involved in the WrestleMania title match, which I'd imagine would be a fatal four way with Bryan, Show, Henry, and the Royal Rumble winner (possibly Sheamus), unless a Raw guy, like Dolph Ziggler takes it, in which case it would be a triple threat.

Good stuff by the WWE.
 
I literally got everything I wanted tonight. Bryan is a champion, Punk is a champion, Ryder is a champion, Cena was gone and there were actually two tag teams wrestling.

The Big show can handle a two minute title reign. This is the guy that won the world title in his first match. He's had an amazing career with god knows how many title runs. losing the title that quick may affect a newer guys cred, cough dolph ziggler cough, but beating the big show is a resume piece for Bryan.

Unifying match for the titles, Punk vs Bryan.... ? sorry, i just wanted to be first.
 
The Match was total bs. Ill call it for what it was. And maybe i missed something "& I wanted to". But wasnt Byran goin to cash in @ Mania? But besides that let me rant about how Henry lost. ON a new post. I see later that he may be hurt real bad. So the strap changes twice. Lets say in all WWE logic that there goes Henry Rematch. All Speculation from this point, but Henry causes Shows title shot and from then on hi mean streak goes to lost title big baby. To me he loses a bit of steam or push as how u guys call it. And for what a for real injury. For all the hard work and time he has put into the sport and buisness i hope it wasnt for 15 min of fame. I am a huge Henry Fan and dont mind he lost but like i stated if it was for an injury and Vince wanted to nix him from a rematch what a shame. A sad day. I sure hope Henry gets to hold the strap 1 more time and be a dominant force in the WWE. Besides that.

Yea Uh HUH You know what it is. Im a Chiefhead. Yall fools CheezeWiz, Red & Yellow. Red & Yellow. Red & Yellow.
Blood Red. And your bellys Yellow.
 
Booked right, Daniel has the potential to be a great short-term underdog champion: put him up against some of the folks who have beaten him in the last few months, and watch him win by the skin of his teeth before dropping the strap in early February.

The other factor is Cole. This could be a great impetus to transition Cole from his current role as the world's most annoying announcer into a heel manager out to get Bryan and end his title reign at all costs, which can be followed by Cole vs. Bryan at Mania.
 
Too early for him. If it was about 3/4 years from his arrival he would have actually deserved it and got a better ovation. Yeah the fans cheered when he won the title, like they would for almost anyone else, fact is he's not that over with them.
 
I marked out completely. I don't care if it's too early. It was a fantastic moment.

Heck, I don't even mind if he loses the title this very week. It was worth the moment.
 
With the news of Henry's legit injury coming to light, I have no issues with D-Bry holding the WHC and I think from a storyline POV I think it's got some mileage. The former champ (Henry) still has a rematch clause and was not pinned by Bryan so has a claim for a rematch, preferably at WM. Give Show the rematch at RR and have Bryan win clean and then have Henry and Bryan interact in EC (if Henry is fit). Then they go one-on-one at WM in an interesting match. Usually it's a face as the former champ who wants his revenge and title back but the roles are reversed and it makes an interesting change to the dynamic.

I hope Bryan can keep the title till then and show his class but I'm not holding my breath. Even if Henry is out past Mania, I think Orton/Bryan would be a nice alternative, even if it keeps the few top-level faces away from the abundance of heels the WWE has.
 
I've read a few more things about Henry's injury. Road Dogg posted something on Twitter, Friday I think, that Henry was being taken to the hospital to get his ankle scoped. I'm guessing that him mentioning Henry's ankle was part of the "injured ankle" angle they'd been running.

Henry's groin pull is apparently more serious than originally thought, which explains why the match was cut so short last night. Henry still has a rematch coming and while it wasn't the ideal way for his great title run to end, it's the right thing to do if his injury is really that bad. Still, I think it would've looked better overall had Henry managed to retain and Bryan cashed in on him to win the title.

If Bryan is booked properly, he can have a good solid run as champion. Lots of people are going to be on pins & needles for the next little while as it pertains to how WWE is going to follow this up. I can understand the "it's too soon" arguments as there is that legit feeling. After all, Bryan hasn't been build up with a huge amount of steam on SD! yet. Then again, the idea may have been for Bryan to go on a roll after TLC to be built up in time for WM. There's the possibility that WWE will continue with that idea and build Bryan as a strong champion. As for who he could face, well this could lead to a heel turn for Big Show. Personally, I'd love to see Bryan in a feud with Christian for the title.
 
Well if Daniel Bryan is going to establish himself as a future main eventer he's got to start looking like a man who deserves to be champion because at this moment he looks more like a chump and not a champ.

Outside of his Cage match with Henry (he lost but looked strong in defeat) Daniel Bryan hasn't really looked like a guy who could or should be world champion. The only thing that stands out when I look at Daniel Bryan is his in ring ability but the Miz is right, my accountant has more personality than Daniel Bryan. He needs to connect with the crowd better and needs to show some personality as well as start winning some matches against established talent in order to look like he belongs. He needs wins against Smackdown's top dogs like Big Show, Henry, Christian, Sheamus and maybe even Orton if he is going to look strong.

Unfortunately WWE has once again pulled the trigger too soon, if Henry was injured just give Show a title run and have Bryan win when he is ready, to me although I was happy that Bryan won his victory was anti-climatic and made him look like someone who doesn't deserve it. Sure you cash in when your opponent is weak (that's smart) but because he has lost so much and hasn't done a thing since MITB it just makes him look like he doesn't deserve it. Guys like Edge, RVD, and even Del Rio showed enough before cashing in so them cashing in and taking the cheap win was exciting (except RVD). Look at Del Rio, he beat many established talent, won the Royal Rumble and beat 90% of the roster before becoming champ, some may say he was pushed too hard too soon but with his push you didn't mind him winning. Daniel Bryan on the other hand hasn't had a big push and still is used to put others over like Barrett, Henry and Sin Cara.

While he is champ he has a good chance of getting pushed to that main event now that he is champ but if he is losing the title in a month or is going to get cheap wins during his reign then his title win will have been completely wasted and if that's what happens then why give him MITB in the first place.
 
I am genuinely happy for Daniel Bryan. This was a guy whom his detractors said would never get a WWE contract and while his fans proclaimed that he was the greatest wrestler in the world, even they never thought he would make it to the WWE. And now here he stands as the World Heavyweight Champion.

Sure it was not perfect. He had a few good encounters in the past few weeks but he was not on a roll or anything. He took advantage of a defenseless opponent after having talked of fulfilling his dream at WrestleMania. It does make him look like a hypocrite. I can understand if the non smark fan feels underwhelmed.

I had thought that something of this kind would happen after Daniel's attempt at cashing in on the briefcase at Smackdown a few weeks ago but I then got sidetracked by the return of Kane. I seriously thought Kane was going to get involved in the match and maybe even stop Bryan from cashing in.

I do not think that Bryan will turn heel after this event though. I expect Big Show to do that role. I think that there will be a huge celebration on Smackdown this week for Bryan and Big Show will come out and badmouth the fans for forgetting the injustice that was done to him. After all Big Show had won the title after a long while so he will have a point.
 
And they killed Henry. You built up Henry this much to have Big Show pin him? That is horrible booking. You had one of your biggest stars in Orton put over Henry. They should of had Henry beat Big Show. And get knocked out by Big Show post match for DB.

I totally agree with this. It seems pointless to build Henry as unstoppable just to have him fall to Big Show's knockout punch. It took steam away from this indestructible force that Henry has been for months now. At least the way you described, gives credence to Henry while allowing Bryan to become champion without the handful of reasons why they so obviously couldn't do it Wrestlemania.

And lets face it, Big Show didn't really need the championship..he's been over for quite a while now.
 
Let me just say I always knew that he wasn't going to cash in at mania. He isn't ready for a match for a major title at wrestlemania. He will likely lose the title by then. With that being said I love that they had him cash in last night! I'm glad he is the wwe world champion, but I'm afraid after he loses it, it will be back to jobbing before going back to the indies/ROH. I wouldn't mind seeing him in ROH again. Hopefully he will be on RAW tonight.
 
What a crock!!!! DB cashed in MITB last night!!!! WTF?!? Well so much for him keeping his "promise" about WrestleMania. I guess Cole was right after all.
 
I have to say Henry's latest title reign IMO was AWESOME!!!!! Now I personally dont see him coming back after this groin injury. The wear and tear this guy has put on his body between wrestling Strong Man and Powerlifting his retirement is inevitable at this point. He put on his best matches during his World Championship run these last few months and the months leading up to it and showed that he isnt all that bad in the ring and can be fun to watch. I give him alot of credit he really stepped up and made you wanna watch him during a time where CM Punk literally set the Pro Wrestling world on Fire with his blazing shoot promo on that historic Raw. Mark Henry was able to gain popularity and heat during that time and was without a doubt the only other angle worth watching during his Hall of Pain arc on the way to winning the belt.
 
I am ecstatic for D'Bryan. Yes, I called him D'Bryan. .
D'Bryan? So now hes a black guy..?

I hope he will do better then Swagger but at this point its not about winning the title but holding onto it. Thats how great champions are made these days, not by title wins but title reigns.. this might be another debacle like Xtian's second reign or any of Swagger's..
 
This is my first thread, sorry if it's such a lame question that I'm sure has already been asked.

I'm hoping that he holds it at least until wrestlemania. But I really think that the WWE will make him lose it at the Elimination Chamber ppv and it will be a triple threat match between him, the new champion and the royal rumble winner (predicting a SD star will win it)

Opinions??
 
Nah, it's not a lame question really. It's one that, no doubt, multitudes of people have been asking and talking about for the past couple of days. I'm surprised it's taken this long for a thread about it to be created.

Generally speaking, I think it's way too early to really even start to guess how long it will last. There's a lot of factors to consider when you look at the whole picture.

It looked as though the plan was for Bryan to challenge Henry at WrestleMania, where he'd most likely have won the title. Henry's injury is severe enough to worry a lot of people so plans were moved up. Naturally, it's thrown expectations that fans may have had completely out of balance. Because the title win came about so suddenly and, at least seemingly, so far ahead of schecule, I think a lot of us are kind of expecting the WWE to screw Bryan over with a lame duck run.

You also have to look at what's coming up. This year is nearly over and January starts the WWE down the road to WrestleMania. There'll be TONS of build & hype for 'Mania over the course of of the first third of the year and there are fans that will question or wonder whether or not Vince trusts Bryan with the spot of being WHC come WrestleMania. It's a well known fact that Vince becomes pretty erratic during WM season and will often change his mind about certain matches, angles and storylines at the drop of a hat multiple times a day. It's certainly possible that Bryan could wind up a victim of Vince's constant idea changes and I think it's what a lot of people are expecting.

Before WrestleMania, there's the Royal Rumble & Elimination Chamber. Based on what we saw on Raw last night, it looks as though Big Show could be heading for a heel turn and could be Bryan's first opponent. It has a lot of fans "worried" because, on the surface, it's easy to see how Show will just dominate Bryan and how it could ultimately look like Bryan is to be fed to Show after being given a brief run.

The next few weeks are going to be very telling. While last night's Raw certainly didn't relieve all the various tensions or answer how Bryan's run is ultimately going to turn out, they did take a solid step in the right direction. Bryan got the win for his team in the six man main event by making Alberto Del Rio tap out. It's a positive sign after all as Del Rio was WWE Champion barely a month ago. While it wasn't a 1 on 1 victory, Bryan still made a 2 time World Champion in WWE tap out and did it cleanly. Also, Michael Cole's comments about Bryan are something to look at as well. Cole came right out and said that Bryan would have one of the shortest reigns in history. The fact that the heel announcer, and one of the most over heel characters in all of wrestling today, said such a thing does offer a solid glimmer of hope for a legit title run for Bryan.

Bryan has gotten a strong response thus far and whatever happens at the SD! tapings for this week could also give a look into how things could possibly end up for Bryan.
 
Thank you for taking the time to answer! I wouldn't be surprised if the WWE turned Big Show heel, not sure if that's what he needs but if that is to happen then I'm really worried for Daniel Bryan. I hope Vince's constant idea changes do not affect Bryan or any other single's champion that they have. I believe they are going in the right direction here, but that's just me.

But you're right, they could've had Punk pin Miz or Del Rio, or had DBD make Ziggler tap out as they usually do. But they had him make Del Rio tap out, who like you said is at a high spot. I'm hoping he has that title for a long time, he deserves it.
 
I am pretty hopeful he holds it after wrestlemania, but Vince will always change everything in a moment notice. One thing he needs to do is do to better promos. The one he did with michael cole a month back was really good as it felt like it was the first time he felt passion in his promo. I feel that if Big Show does go heel, Bryan might get buried. In some of his matches, in a few months back has him do his "comeback moment" and that would be his offense and had a major losing streak. Now he won Monday Night, a clean one, which is good for him and one step in the right direction. The only thing that would derail him would be Mark Henry coming back and how long will it be until he does come back. I feel that Mark would get the title back, when he is fully healed up and ready to go. Until that point, he will hold it til then.
 
I'm giving him up to Elimination Chamber. Although he won the WHC, it seems like WWE is dropping the ball on Daniel Bryan. Yeah, he is pushed a bit but I'm afraid that his reign will be similar to that of Alberto del Rio. I don't think WWE will have him main-event wrestlemania so I believe he will lose the title before or inside the elimination chamber. There is no way Daniel Bryan will be included in the main-event at Wrestlemania 28.
 
I'm hoping until Wrestlemania. If he does lose the title, I hope it's to someone that the fans think Bryan can't beat. That way if he gets a rematch at Wrestlemania and actually wins, it'll be huge.
 
I was so happy watching TLC, When he came out I thought he was going to turn heel like Punk did against Jeff Hardy but; I was very wrong in my estimation. After Daniel Bryan covered Big Show and got the 3 count, he went and rubbed it in Michael Cole's face. I was super pumped and happy for Daniel Bryan. I knew from since he was on NXT that he was going to be BIG, even though a lot of people on here was saying he was going nowhere.

:worship::worship: DANIEL BRYAN :worship::worship:
 

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